Friday, March 13, 2009

RODIMUS THE COWARD - IGNORANT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 'HO HUIOS' AND 'TO HUIO' IN GREEK

O HO, HO, HO... THE FAKE ROBOT WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS HURTING. HE,HE,HE... HA,HA,HA... AND IN EFFECT HE HAS REACHED THE SUMMIT OF STUPIDITY. IMAGINE, HE DARED TO GIVE US THE LINK FOR HIS CLAIM THAT IN GREEK MANUSCRIPTS JOHN 4:5 IS RENDERED 'HO HUIOS'. OF COURSE I IMMEDIATELY CHECKED AND WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT:
1. All Greek texts presented in Biblos.com RESEMBLES THE NOVUM TESTAMENTUM GRAECE OF NESTLE-ALAND. THEY DO NOT PRESENT 'HO HUIOS' AT ALL BUT 'TO HUIO'. For those who can read Greek please follow this link that Rodimus the Coward had given: http://scripturetext.com/john/4-5.htm
2. RODIMUS THE COWARD IS IGNORANT INDEED, CERTIFIED AND AUDITED IGNORANT, OF BASIC GREEK BECAUSE HE HAS DECEIVED HIMSELF THAT 'TW' MUST BE READ AS 'HO'... HO, HO, HO... NO, NO, NO!!!
The T in Greek is equivalent to our T
The W in Greek is equivalent to our O but in longer form because its Omega and not Omicron.
TW = TO and not as HO
What is HO in Greek? Well, our H as in H-orse is silent in the beginning of Greek words. Usually it is presented when the vowel is accompanied by a reverse apostrophe on top. Thus,
HO is written 'O as in 'O THEOS [pronounced as HO THEOS, THE GOD], 'O 'UIOS [pronounced as HO HUIOS, THE SON].
How about HUIOS? Well, how can 'UIW' be rendered as HUIOS when it is obvious that THE ENDING IS OMEGA or W = O and NOT SIGMA or S = S. The correct rendering is obviously 'HUIO'. IF IT IS 'HUIOS' IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN: 'UIOS. So this quote from Rodimus the Coward:
"He quotes the Nestle Aland Manuscript as his support. I don't know if he has amnesia or something but what is really the argument of his previous blog? His argument: The phrase "the son" does not exist in John 4:5. I argued that while the English Bibles does not render it as "the son", Greek Manuscripts do. If you will click here: http://scripturetext.com/john/4-5.htm Wescot and Hort, Textus Receptus, Byzantine text etc. all render it as ho huios (tw uiw)."
IS OUR SOLID EVIDENCE OF HIS IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY... SOLID PROOF OF HIS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. LOOK AT ALL THE ENGLISH VERSIONS PRESENTED... BEHOLD, THEY AGREE WITH ATTY. LLASOS THAT THE CORRECT TRANSLATION IS 'HIS SON' AND NOT 'THE SON'. THE REASON WHY THEY ALL TRANSLATED IT THAT WAY IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT ALL THE GREEK TEXTS PRESENTED BELOW EVEN THE WESCOT AND HORT, TEXTUS RECEPTUS, BYZANTINE, ETC. ARE RENDERING IT 'TW HUIW' [TO HUIO] --- THEY ARE ALL 'TO HUIO' AND NOT 'HO HUIOS'. I CAN PROVE THAT BECAUSE I HAVE A PERSONAL COPY OF THE NESTLE-ALAND NOVUM TESTAMENTUM GRAECE AND SO FAR ALL THE GREEK TEXTS PRESENTED BY RODIMUS THE COWARD, CERTIFIED AND AUDITED LIAR, ARE GIVING THE SAME RENDERING AS THE NESTLE-ALAND. HERE IT IS:
NESTLE-ALAND John 4:5 ἔρχεται οὖν εις πόλιν της Σαμαρείας λεγομένην Συχαρ, πλησίον του χωρίου ὃ ἔδωκεν ᾿Ιακωβ ᾿Ιωσηφ τω υιω αυτου·
LOOK, LOOK, LOOK MY DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT THE NESTLE-ALAND TRANSLATION OF 'TO HUIO' AND COMPARE IT TO THE GREEK TEXTS BELOW... BEHOLD THE STUPIDITY, THE IGNORANCE AND THE DECEPTION OF RODIMUS THE COWARD.
AND MAY I ALSO REMIND THIS CERTIFIED AND AUDITED COWARD THAT HE ACCEPTED THE FACT THAT THE NESTLE-ALAND PRESENTED THE GREEK TEXT AS 'TO HUIO' DURING HIS EXCHANGE WITH ATTY. MARWIL LLASOS IN HIS BLOG. REMEMBER THIS:

All you words return to you, Rodimus! Once a liar, always a liar. A liar who says he is not a liar and points to others as liars is the greatest liar. And that's you. Can you read Greek? Here's the Romanized form and see if there's anything there that says HO HUIOS:
“erchetai oun eis polin tEs samareias legomenEn suchar plEsion tou chOriou ho edOken iakOb [tO] iOsEph tO huiO autou.”
So where is HO HUIOS?
Rodimus is a liar in a denial stage.
So, for lying once again that HO HUIOS is in the Greek manuscript of John 4:5, Rodimus has proven to all and sundry that he is an ineterate liar!
Go get your Nestle Aland, Rodimus! Read John 4:5 and see your beloved HO HUIOS THERE. You are not just a liar but biblically illiterate as well!
So, when can you publicly debate me? I'm waiting.
You just wait and you'll have your Tertullian. Blunder? Don't celebrate yet....

March 12, 2009 7:47 AM
Rodimus said...
Granting that, but that's only one Manuscript. What about the other Greek Manuscripts? Talk about myopic.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR THIS CERTIFIED AND AUDITED COWARD THE OTHER GREEK TEXTS THAT HE PRESENTED AS EVIDENCES HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE SIMILAR TO THE NESTLE-ALAND. THUS, BOTH IN GREEK AND IN ENGLISH, ATTY. LLASOS IS CORRECT AND SCHOLARLY UPHELD.
BELOW ARE THE ENGLISH AND THE GREEK TEXTS CLAIMED BY THE MODERATING COWARD FROM THE BEREANS:
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New American Standard Bible (©1995) So He came to a city of Samaria called Sychar, near the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph;
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King James BibleThen cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
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American King James VersionThen comes he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
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American Standard VersionSo he cometh to a city of Samaria, called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph:
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Douay-Rheims BibleHe cometh therefore to a city of Samaria, which is called Sichar, near the land which Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
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Darby Bible TranslationHe comes therefore to a city of Samaria called Sychar, near to the land which Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
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English Revised VersionSo he cometh to a city of Samaria, called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph:
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Webster's Bible TranslationThen he cometh to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground, that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.
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World English BibleSo he came to a city of Samaria, called Sychar, near the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son, Joseph.
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Young's Literal TranslationHe cometh, therefore, to a city of Samaria, called Sychar, near to the place that Jacob gave to Joseph his son;
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed. with Diacriticsἔρχεται οὖν εἰς πόλιν τῆς Σαμαρίας λεγομένην Συχάρ, πλησίον τοῦ χωρίου ὃ ἔδωκεν Ἰακὼβ Ἰωσὴφ τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ.
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox Churchἔρχεται οὖν εἰς πόλιν τῆς Σαμαρείας λεγομένην Συχὰρ, πλησίον τοῦ χωρίου ὃ ἔδωκεν Ἰακὼβ Ἰωσὴφ τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ.
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with accents)ἔρχεται οὖν εἰς πόλιν τῆς Σαμαρείας λεγομένην Συχὰρ πλησίον τοῦ χωρίου ὃ ἔδωκεν Ἰακὼβ Ἰωσὴφ τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ·
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Westcott/Hort with Diacriticsἔρχεται οὖν εἰς πόλιν τῆς Σαμαρείας λεγομένην Συχὰρ πλησίον τοῦ χωρίου ὁ ἔδωκεν Ἰακώβ [τῷ] Ἰωσὴφ τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ·
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th Ed.ερχεται ουν εις πολιν της σαμαριας λεγομενην συχαρ πλησιον του χωριου ο εδωκεν ιακωβ ιωσηφ τω υιω αυτου
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Byzantine/Majority Text (2000)ερχεται ουν εις πολιν της σαμαρειας λεγομενην συχαρ πλησιον του χωριου ο εδωκεν ιακωβ ιωσηφ τω υιω αυτου
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Textus Receptus (1550) ερχεται ουν εις πολιν της σαμαρειας λεγομενην συχαρ πλησιον του χωριου ο εδωκεν ιακωβ ιωσηφ τω υιω αυτου
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Textus Receptus (1894)ερχεται ουν εις πολιν της σαμαρειας λεγομενην συχαρ πλησιον του χωριου ο εδωκεν ιακωβ ιωσηφ τω υιω αυτου
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ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 4:5 Greek NT: Westcott/Hortερχεται ουν εις πολιν της σαμαρειας λεγομενην συχαρ πλησιον του χωριου ο εδωκεν ιακωβ [τω] ιωσηφ τω υιω αυτου
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RODIMUS THE COWARD, RODIMUS THE LIAR, RODIMUS THE DECEIVER, RODIMUS THE GREAT PRETENDER!!!

12 comments:

  1. Viva Catholic Faith Defenders!!!!!

    Sapol na sapol si Rudimus nito!!!!

    Viva Senior Santo Niño!!
    Viva Santa Maria!!!

    Ang galing mo Fr. Abe!!!

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  2. That is just basic Greek Brother G-One. It is elementary. It is just the Greek Alphabet and its pronounciation.

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  3. Sa isang Elementary techniques lang napatumba na si Rudimus....

    How much more Fr. Abe, kung maipapalabas mona ang pang collage na Greek...

    Hindi naman sa nagmamayabang peru, may ebedensya naman...

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  4. Dear Bro. G-One,

    Please let us not brag about our talents because each one of us has limitations.

    A talent, skill or power used with pride is doomed to lead us to shame and destruction.

    Every talent must be used with humility and propriety.

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  5. I agree.

    We should not brag about our talents and skills. Paul said,

    "...What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?" (1Co 4:7)

    Verbal sarcasm is also a form of boasting. For example, if we know an information which other people don't understand, we must not label them sarcastic terms such as "stupids" or the like.

    "...sikaping lagi na ang pangungusap ninyo’y yaong makabubuti at angkop sa pagkakataon upang pakinabangan ng makaririnig." Eph 4:29

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  6. Living Grace [LG],

    Welcome once again in The Splendor of the Church.

    It is so nice to hear from another Berean moderator especially the one who bears two ID's: LIVING GRACE and JON IRENICUS. I am wondering why you have named your Forum -- Bereans; it should be TRANSFORMERS.

    Speaking of VERBAL SARCASM I think it is better you write about it in your forum or tell it to your Pastors because for us Catholics WE LEARN THE USE OF VERBAL SARCASM FROM EVANGELICALS AND BORN AGAIN ROAMING AROUND VISITING OUR HOUSES, PREACING INSIDE THE BUSSES CLAIMING THAT WE CATHOLICS ARE WORSHIPPING IDOLS, WILL NOT BE SAVED OR ARE WORSHIPPING MARY.

    After years of silence we decided to draw our swords and engage you guys in a man to man combat, using your own language and even your own Bible translations to face you in every public arena. Just recently I've met a Born Again preacher speaking against the Catholic Church in a public bus stop. I decided to subject him to interrogation and cross examination of the Word of God and his arguments started crumbling like dust. It is found out that he simply memorized his presentations. VERY NICE.

    Now, concerning the strong words on this post. May I remind you that it was your cohort or rather friend, Rodimus who started attacking my person and my pastorship when he categorically and explicitly named me in a thread at your Forum WITHOUT INFORMING ME. THAT'S NOT BOASTING LG... THAT'S TREACHERY. While the post where I mentioned the Bereans of which he was reacting was not mentioning any of you guys. Instead, it actually presents the face of our young Knight KAPATAS.

    You guys are very protective of your identity yet it seems that some of you are not protective of those from the others side.

    Then, Rodimus bragged that he has destroyed our beloved doctrine of Perpetual Virginity of Mary and he claimed that he will destroy our arguments using the Sacred Scriptures. But just like the preacher in that public bus stop ONE OF YOUR MODERATORS HAVE BEEN FOUND IGNORANT OF BASIC GREEK.THAT'S TERRIBLE... A MODERATOR OF A R-E-S-E-A-R-C-H M-I-N-I-S-T-R-Y DOESN'T KNOW BASIC GREEK. AND THERE HE WAS CLAIMING TO HAVE DISCOVERED THE ACHILLES HEEL OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    We do not opened the topic. He was the one who offered HO HUIOS for TO HUIO in John 4:5. He was the one who claimed that we are only using the English Bible translations and are reading only the Nestle-Aland Greek text. He was the one who presented us with links about those Greek texts in Biblos.com. NOW, TELL ME MR. BEREAN MODERATOR WHO IS BOASTING HERE. YOUR FRIEND'S BOASTING SIMPLY BOOMERANGED ON HIM.

    That is the problem LG. YOU WERE SILENT WHEN YOUR OWN COHORT WAS LAMBASTING AND INSULTING US YET NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO APPEAR INNOCENT AND 'HOLIER THAN THOU' WHEN YOUR OWN HAS BEEN CAUGHT IN HIS OWN FOLLIES. IN YOUR FORUM YOU CAN CLOSE THE THREAD WHEN OUR KNIGHTS ARE PUTTING YOU INTO SHAME AS YOU DID TO BRO. EL CID AND FOR HIS PART, RODIMUS REMOVED HIS POSTS THAT COULD PROVE HIS ATTACKS ON OUR PERSONS AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE MOTHER OF JESUS OUR LORD. BUT, OPEN DEBATE IN A BLOGSPHERE IS DIFFERENT. THIS IS NOT A FORUM WHEREIN THE MODERATORS CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BY CLOSING THE THREAD. THE EXCHANGES HAVE BEEN READ AND REPOSTED IN MANY OTHER BLOGS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH OF THE PHILIPPINES AND HAVE BEEN SEEN WORLDWIDE.

    After the Apologies I want to close this matter. I don't want to attack furthermore Bro. Rodimus. I notice that the guy is silent for a very long time. Yet, here you are opening the healing wounds. Your comments doesn't help LG because by subtly commenting and talking about Verbal Sarcasm, Boasting, etc. you are also opening the wounds of your own companion and comrade in arms who started it all.

    I remember fully well that during the height of exchange you were SILENT LG. YOU WERE SILENT. You should have adviced Rodimus not to boast of bringing down the Virginity of the Mother of Jesus and the Defensores Fidei. If you are really a peaceful dove you should have reminded the hawk on your part to stop the offensive so that the encounter will not turn into a full scale war. You didn't intervene, now you are viewing the remnants of that devastating war. Your advises are good but IT CAME A LITTLE TOO LATE. YOU ARE 25 MINUTE TOO LATE.

    Also, concerning your advise not to be personal, how can I? I am dealing with a Robot and not with a human person. If for instance I was sure that I am debating with Pastor Gerald Anderson, husband of Kim Chiu then I know how to relate properly and would talk to him as person to person. Instead, with Rodimus' mask he can attack our Faith with impunity, he can lambast our Church and our Mother without personal responsiblity. Rodimus didn't loose anything because he can simply get another name such as ROBOTIC or SAN GOKU or JURASSIC and he can start all over again attacking us without scratch. But, Atty. Llasos, Cenon Bibe, Carlos Antonio Palad, Fr. Abe and Franz Luigi Lugena cannot do that. We are exposed as Peter and Paul were exposed. By preaching with our own identity we are vulnerable but in that vulnerability also lies our strength. People are aware that we are ready to face the price of our own words and actions.

    On the other hand, even if people are using a mask there are times when they live their marks like footprints or fingerprints in their responses. Thus, our Catholic Apologists concluded with certainty THAT LIVING GRACE AND JON IRENICUS ARE ONE AND THE SAME PERSON.

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  7. that was...over-reacting,

    "Father," with all due respect to you, please refrain from using such personal attacks from now on. As you said and claim about yourself, you're a Christian,... and Christians must not be verbally sarcastic against your opponents as what you are consistently doing in your "EVERY" conversations,

    In my previous post, I never intended to hurt anyone, or castigate anyone. I just agreed with your comment above about "bragging,"

    -->>Why over-react?<<--

    Good day, "Father"...

    You know what, my uncle just died recently,..

    Reason of death? = HIGH BLOOD

    Take care!

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  8. HA, HA, HA... I think the over reaction is imprinted on your face and eyes on that PHOTO I.D.

    BY THE WAY, WHAT IS THAT? LARAWAN NG DIOS-DIOSAN? IMAGE OF A HAND MADE IDOL?

    I think my explanation in the previous comment is enough even for this one.

    O, YOUR UNCLE DIED... OUR CONDOLENCES. It is Catholic custom to pray for the souls of those who have died but it might offend you. For sure you are not praying for the repose of his soul because according to your belief HE IS DEAD ALREADY. MARY IS DEAD ALREADY. PETER IS DEAD ALREADY. So they cannot hear and see us. Is that correct?

    If it is it means that YOU GUYS ARE SAVED WHILE HERE ON EARTH, YET DEAD AS DEAD... AS DEAD MEAT... WHEN YOU DIE.

    Very interesting. I hope and pray that the soul of your uncle is alive in God and that he will be accepted into Eternal life.

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  9. I think you Jon/LG is the one who is over reacting. Fr. Abe just gave you the summary of events that transpired between DFF and your cohort Rodimus. You should be thankful because it will save you time reading the GARBAGE that your robotic friend Rodimus spewed via the digital ether, much more the shame that the BEREAN Apologetics Research (?) Ministry was put into. How can the priest attack you personally when he doesn't know your real identity in the first place? Who knows, kung sino kang hudas o hudesa dyan sa harap ng monitor at nagpapakilalang "maamong tupa" daw. Ke hilig mong mag bigay ng advice sa iba eh ikaw mismo hindi mo naman ginagawa eh. Kaya kaipokrituhan yang ginagawa mo LG. Pamemersonal ba yung tawaging ka sa other alias mo like LG? Kahiya-hiya ba si LG kung kaya't ayaw mong idikit ang sarili mo sa kanya? Tingnan nga natin kung talagang maamong tupa itong si LG/Jon Irenicus:

    [b]Thread: OSAS (Eternal Security): "Ang Diyos po ba ay bigay-bawi?"
    LG Post# 945[/b]

    [i]Kaya walang laban talaga yang mga anti-OSAS,...
    Kahit kailan sila'y magiging talunan sa usaping ito,...

    Mga mambabasa,... basahin po ninyo mula Pahina-UNO nitong thread, at kayo na po ang humatol kung ano ang tama,.. At hayag naman mula page #1 hanggang page #56 kung anong konsepto ang nangingibabaw,.... lampaso ang aral ng mga anti-OSAS,...

    AMEN![/i]

    http://www.thebereans.net/forum2/showthread.php?t=41785&page=63

    Napakahumble mo ata dyan LG?

    KAPATAS

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  10. O Good Lord... the Forum is transferring in my Blog.

    Well, it's rare for me to read or hear Kapatas speaking or writing thus. I leave that to you Brother, you know them more than I do.


    Im enjoying your Justification Debate in their Forum brother. Congratulatins for the job well done.

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  11. Iwasan niyo na lang po ang pamemersonal.

    Masama po kasi yan eh

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  12. I hope that you can speak of the same thing in your Forum LG/Jon Irenicus. Hope you can say the same thing to your cohorts there.

    Peace be with you.

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