Bro. Cenon Bibe, Fr. Abe, CRS and Bro. William during December 2008 National Catholic Apologetics Convention in San Juan, Metro Manila.
It is my pleasure to honor today one of the valiant and very effective Catholic Apologists in the country, BRO. CENON BIBE.
Year after year, Bro. Cenon is sending a lot of souls to attend the Defensores Fidei apologetic seminars who were former members of the Dating Daan and Iglesia ni Cristo. It is a living testament that this man is being used by the Lord for the Glory of His Name and for the enlightenment of many to the Splendor of the Church.
Bro. Cenon for many years was a columnist of the national newspaper TUMBOK. That is why the title of his Apologetic column is TUMBUKIN NATIN. I, myself, was a regular reader and in fact I was learning a lot from him that I used to cut and collect his part in that daily. That is why when I got to see him last December I was really starstruck. He,he,he...
Now, there is an additional blessing for us who are followers of the column of Bro. Cenon. He has opened an Apologetic Blog with the same title: TUMBUKIN NATIN and it is mostly in Filipino language just like his column. Of course, Bro. Cenon is fluent in English and as equally efficient in English as proven by his recent exchanges with YOU KNOW WHO. But the fact that he is doing apologetics in Filipino or Tagalog is a great blessing for millions of our Filipino faithful. Most of them prefers and are truly looking for a solid defense of the faith in the native language.
For those who wants to study how to answer the attacks against the Catholic Faith in Tagalog please visit Bro. Cenon's Blog. Here it is: http://tumbukin-natin.blogspot.com/
To Bro. Cenon we say thank you for your simple but very effective defense and proclamation of the faith. During these days that the Church is under attack by various forces you are a light shining in the darkness, a spark of light coming from CHRIST, THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.
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Salam to all brothers and sisters:
ReplyDeletePlease study the story of our forebears, Rajah Sulaiman, Lakan Dula.Rajah Matanda,Rajah Silongan,Lapu-Lapu,Sultan Kudarat were all true valiant Heroes of Moros. Please return to the true Faith Islam.Think twice, the Csatillans Christianized the Moros of Luzon and the Visayas.
Sino si Bonifacio at Rizal? Kinalaban din nila ang kastila na nagdala ng kanilang Religion, bakit ganon?
Ang Mt. Sinai ay nasa Arabia hindi sa Egypt: see Galatians 4:25
ReplyDelete"For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children."
Bob Cornuke: In 1988, we retraced the exodus route from the tip of the Sinai Peninsula into Saudi Arabia using the Bible and satellite imagery to find the actual route.
Inland, 33 km, we found the bitter springs of Mara mentioned in Exodus 15. This dirt sample from the springs has been chemically analyzed and was found to contain excessive iron and dissolved salts, making it very bitter. Continuing along the route we came to the clear water springs mentioned in Exodus 15:27, here caves were being excavated by Saudi archaeologists. They said they had found writing in these caves indicating that Moses had come through this area. The tomb of Jethro, the father-in-law of Moses, and Zippora, the wife of Moses were found in these caves. We found at the base of this mountain twelve pillars eighteen and a half feet in diameter. Why not seven, why not eleven, why twelve? With the twelve tribes of Moses fitting so perfectly into that scenario.
Additionally on the flat in front of this mountain we found a large pile of rocks about 20-24 feet tall. There is a petroglyph of an Egyptian, not an Arabic drawing, but an Egyptian drawing of the golden calf. Additionally at the base of the mountain we found kind of a wing shaped formation, foundation, pointing toward the mountain
and there we found marble, round marble stone. This is some of the stone of it. This rock is not indigenous to that area of Saudi Arabia, let alone to Saudi Arabia.
Orbach: Whether or not this is proven to be the mountain where Moses stood in awe before the burning bush, there appears to be considerable evidence that Mt. Sinai is located somewhere in northwestern Saudi Arabia. And if the Exodus account is true, that mountain will be blackened by heavenly fire. There will be evidence of a large and sometimes boisterous encampment, and perhaps as some have suggested, some remnant of the gold and jewels and other personal possessions the fleeing slaves were allowed to take with them. Proof positive of the exact location of Mt. Sinai it seems, is literally hidden behind armed guards of the Saudi Government, but the earliest post biblical Jewish sources from Palestine, the mid second century book of Jubilees, fragments of which were found amongst the Dead Sea scrolls, gives a long and idealized description of geography that suggests the author believed Mt. Sinai to be in the Arabian Peninsula.
Clean and Unclean Meats: A Matter of Health?
ReplyDeleteWhy did God, in the Scriptures, distinguish between clean and unclean meats-the animals humans may or may not eat? Is there more to the story? Can we find a health connection?
The specific reason God gave the Israelites for forbidding them to eat any unclean animals or even touching their carcasses was to "be holy, for I am holy" (Leviticus 11:44-45).
The Hebrew was not only to avoid eating unclean animals; he was not to touch their dead carcasses. Thus the laws automatically helped control vermin. Common unclean animals would be spiders, flies, bugs, rats, and mice. A dead rat in a Hebrew house was not overlooked. It was carefully taken out and buried. In an effort to avoid such problems, the Hebrew housewife would normally keep a clean house
Thus Moses could be called the father of modern infection control. Even today we are still benefiting from God's 3,500-year-old instructions" (None of These Diseases: The Bible's Health Secrets for the 21st Century, 2000, p. 11).
Rex Russell, M.D., adds: "As we look at modern science and nutrition, we will find that . . . there is an amazing overlap between God's original laws of clean and unclean and solid hygienic principles . . . Scripture and medical research agree that modern lifestyles lived without reference to God's laws and design shorten life and hasten death
In contrast, David Meinz summarizes the potential health risk of eating creatures the Bible classifies as unclean. "Almost all of the creatures on the unclean list are scavengers," he notes. "In many cases they don't hunt for their own food; they eat the dead and decaying matter of our environment. A catfish does that at the bottom of a pond; lobsters and shrimp do it in the ocean. A pig will eat anything. Vultures, almost by definition, are known for their scavenger habits" (Meinz, p. 225).
What purpose do they serve?
"As is well known, pigs will eat anything and everything. They were designed to clean up decaying flesh and pollution. Pigs have eaten Philadelphia's garbage and sewage for more than 100 years, saving the city $3 million a year in landfill costs. This is a wise use of hogs. They are designed to clean our environment.
"Even when stacked in cages, piglets thrive on offal when only the pig in the top cage receives food. Farmers have increased their profits by feeding free raw sewage to pigs. Chicken farmers often keep a hog so they can dispose of dead chickens without having to bury them" (Russell, p. 81).
Dr. Russell's conclusion ". . . Although swine help clean the earth, and shellfish and catfish are ideally designed to purify the water, we don't want to eat what they clean up!" (ibid.)
In light of such seldom-publicized facts, we can better understand and appreciate God's words through Moses: "Observe and obey all these words which I command you, that it may go well with you and your children after you forever, when you do what is good and right in the sight of the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 12:28).
Did Jesus Declare All Meats Clean?
ReplyDeleteMany assume Jesus' statements in Mark 7 did away with the dietary restrictions recorded in the Old Testament. How should we understand Christ's words?
Many believe that in His encounter with the Pharisees recorded in Mark 7:1-23, Jesus abrogated the laws of clean and unclean meats revealed in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. In fact, many modern translations of the New Testament insert additional words into the text of Mark 7:19 to reflect this understanding. For example, the New International Version ends the verse with: "(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods 'clean')."
One of the foundational principles for understanding a scriptural passage is to examine the context. What is the topic of discussion here?
We should first notice that the subject is food in general, not which meats are clean or unclean. The Greek word broma, used in verse 19, simply means food. An entirely different Greek word, kreas, is used in the New Testament where meat—animal flesh —is specifically intended (see Romans 14:21; 1 Corinthians 13:8). So this passage concerns the general subject of food rather than meat. But a closer look shows that more is involved.
The first two verses help us understand the context: "Then the Pharisees and some of the scribes came together to Him, having come from Jerusalem. Now when they saw some of His disciples eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault" (verses 1-2). They asked Jesus, "Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?" (verse 5).
Now we see the subject further clarified. It concerns eating "with unwashed hands." Why was this of concern to the scribes and Pharisees?
The covenant God made with Israel at Mount Sinai was based on many laws and other instructions that ensured ritual purity. Jewish observance, however, often went beyond these in embracing the "oral law" or "tradition of the elders"—passed on by word of mouth and consisting of many additional man-made requirements and prohibitions tacked onto God's laws. Verses 3-4 of Mark 7 provide a brief explanation of the specific practice the Pharisees and scribes were referring to in this account: "For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a special way, holding the tradition of the elders ..."
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Peter's testimony is significant
Can we find other biblical evidence that this view is correct, that Jesus never changed the biblical food laws? We find a telling event from the life of Peter well after Jesus' death and resurrection.
Peter is a central figure in the early Church. Jesus charged Peter to strengthen the brethren (Luke 22:32). Peter delivered a powerful sermon that led to the conversion of thousands (Acts 2:14-41). His boldly claiming the name of Christ resulted in the miraculous healing of a lame man. He powerfully preached on repentance to those who gathered to witness the miracle (Acts 3:1-26). Later the mere passing of Peter's shadow over the sick resulted in dramatic healings (Acts 5:15).
Surely Peter would have understood something as fundamental as whether Jesus had repealed the laws of clean and unclean meat. Yet, years after Christ's death and resurrection, when he experienced a vision of unclean animals accompanied by a voice telling him to "kill and eat," notice Peter's spontaneous response: "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean" (Acts 10:14, emphasis added throughout).
Ironically, many believe the purpose of this vision was to do away with the dietary restrictions regarding clean and unclean meats. Overlooked is the significance of Peter's initial response. He obviously did not consider these laws as having been rescinded by Christ!
This strange vision came to Peter three times, yet he still "wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant" (verses 16-17) and "thought about the vision" (verse 19). Peter did not jump to conclusions as too many do today. He already knew what the vision did not mean. Later God revealed the true meaning: "God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean" (verse 28).
Peter came to realize that the significance of the vision was that God was opening the way of salvation to gentiles (non-Israelites), so Peter shortly thereafter baptized the first uncircumcised gentiles God called into the Church (verses 34-35, 45-48). Peter was never to eat unclean animals, but he did learn this vital lesson in the plan of God.
As God instructed to Moses: "Observe and obey all these words which I command you, that it may go well with you and your children after you forever, when you do what is good and right in the sight of the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 12:28).
Kapayapaan ay sumasaiyo Kapatid na Cenon: (pakipost mo na lang lahat ng comments ko)
ReplyDeleteAng aking pagpapaliwanag ay nauukol sa kontradiksyon na pinapaliwanag sa Koran. Napakalinaw naman na sinabi ng Allah sa sura Baqarah 2 :106 “ whatever a verse or revelation do, We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do things.” Ang Surah Baqarah ay pangalawang Surah na binigay ng Allah sa Propeta Mohammad, mag uumpisa palang ang banal na aklat naito ay may pauna ng paalaala sa mga naniniwala dito. So, malinaw na walang contradiction sa Koran. Bibigyan kita ng paliwanag Sura At-Taubah9: 29: “Fight against those who not believe in Allah”(People of the Book Christians, Jews and Sabians). Pinalitan ng Allah sa Surah Mumtahanah 60: 8-9 “ Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion nor drove you out of your home. Sa Sura An-nisa 4:15” And those of your women(di sinali ang lalaki ) who commit illegal sexual intercourse, take the evidence of four witnesses, and if they testify confine them in the house until death. Pinalitan ng Allah sa Sura An-Nur 24:2 (para hindi unfair pati lalaki)“ The fornicatress (single woman)and the fornicator(single man) flog each of them one hundred stripes( and for those married persons commit such crime, stone them to death).Kung mapupuna mo dito sa mga naunang Surah ay mag uumpisa pa lang ang Islam, nasa Makkah pa yan ng dumating sa Propeta. Kaya karamihan sa mga pagbabago ay nasa Madina at sa mga huling yugto na ng buhay ng Propeta bago siya bumalik sa Makkah, mahigit na dalawang daang talata or nasa limang daan pa sa Koran ang pinalitan ng Allah.Kaya wala kang dapat na alalahanin kapatid na Cenon,tunay na walang mali sa Koran.
Ng bumalik ang Propeta sa Makkah kasama ang sampung libong mga Mohmin, 10,000 saints(lahat sila nasasaulo ang buong koran)na nabanggit din sa Deuteronomy 33:1-2” “At ito ang basbas na ibinabasbas ni Moises, tao ng dios, sa mga anak ng Israel bago siya namatay(last command), At kanyang sinabi, “ang panginoo’y nanggaling sa Sinai(Moises,Egypt or Jabar Al-Laws in Saudi?see the real location of Mt. Sinai) , at bumangon mula sa Seir(Jesus,Jerusalem), at patungo sa kanila, siya ay lumiwanag sa bundok ng Paran(Mohammad,Makkah) at siya ay nanggaling sa laksa laksa ng mga banal(10 Thousand Saints), Sa kanyang kanan ay may hawak na isang mahigpit na kautusan(Qur’an and hadith) sa kanila.” ni isang patak ng dugo ay walang lumabas. Upon entering Makkah ,victorious Muhammad did not take it's inhabitants as prisoners. Even though these people had been torturing himself and his companions, and killing many of them over many years, still, Muhammad commanded that they not be tortured, nor should retribution be sought against them. Rather, he pardoned them all and set them free. Most of them entered into Islam. Sa The letter from Jude 1:14-15 "See, the Lord came with ten thousand of his saints, to execute judgment on all, and to convict everyone of all the deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him." This prophecy of Enoch(Prophet Edris see Surah 19:56-57, )clearly refers to the Holy Prophet [pbuh] for the following reasonssee King James Version of the Holy Bible.
ReplyDelete1. Only the Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] had ten thousand
saints with him. We have shown elsewhere that these saints accompanied
the Prophet [pbuh] at the conquest of Makka.All of them memorized the entire Koran.
2. The Holy Prophet [pbuh] executed judgment upon all the
unbelievers at the conquest of Makka and convinced ungodly Makkans
of their ungodly deeds. At that time were more of Paganistic practice.
3. The Christians kept waiting for the coming of the Lord
even after Christ had come, for this epistle of Jude was written long
after Christ and the Christians knew that it referred to come other
personage who, from the time of the Prophet Enoch up to the time
of Christ, had not appeared. The prophecy was therefore clearly for
the Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] and for none else.
The original Hebrew version of Song of Songs 5:10 and 16, if correctly translated, predicts the coming of Muhammad (pbuh) by name: "the chiefest among ten thousands" (ibid., emphasis added,King James Version).Song of Song 5:10
His mouth is most: yea, he is MUHAMMAD. This is my (paternal) UNCLE, and this is my COMRADE, O daughters of Jerusalem.(Songs of Songs 5:16 King James Version).
Ang tunay na Paran ay Makka, kasi dyan tinaboy si Hagar at Ishmael(PBUT), "Then God opened her [Hagar] eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt. At that time Abimelech and Phicol the commander of his forces said to Abraham, "God is with you in everything you do. ( Genesis 21:19-22)"
"And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. (Genesis 17:20)"
"And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. (Genesis 17:20)"
ReplyDelete"Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. (Galatians 4:25)" Kaya ang Mt Sinai nasa Northern part ng Saudi Arabia, kaya malapit din ang Paran or Makka or Bacca dyan.Si Moses lang ang propeta na nakayapak sa Mt. Sinai at Hindi siya nakayapak sa Jerusalem or Seir or Paran. Si Jesus lang nakayapak sa Seir na hindi naman nakayapak sa Mt. Sinai or Paran. While ang propeta Muhamad ay siya lang ang propeta na nakayapak sa Paran at sa Jerusalem ng umakyat sa langit.Alam mo kung bakit bro cenon? Si Moises ay para lamang sa mga Israelites na inalipin ni Paraoh, si Jesus ay napakalinaw na para rin sa Israelites ano ang sabi niya “I am only for the lost sheep of the House of Israel” ,(Mathew 15:22-28) ng lumapit sa kanya ang isang Canaanite na Babae.Si Mohammad ay para sa buong sangkatauhan, hindi lang sa mga Arabo. Kaya ang sabi sa Deut 33:1-2 “ Lumiwanag sa bundok ng Paran(bong mundo)” Si Jesus ay bumangon lang sa Sier.(part2 blog comments)
Kung ilipat natin ang pagpapaliwanag sa Mt. Sinai at uulitin ko ay ito:
Sa Exudos ng mga Israelites from Egypt, nakatawid muna sila ng Dagat bago nila narating ang Mt. Horeb or Sinai, kung titingnan mo sa claim ng Christians na Mt. Sinai, wala kang matatawid na Dagat mula sa Egypt, kaya malinaw pa sa tubig na ang tunay na Mt. Sinai ay sa Median or Saudi Arabia.
Paul in the book of Galatians and the most recent Archeological Discoveries suggest that Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia and NOT in Egypt's Sinai desert: Recent archeological discoveries along with Paul's own words in Galatians 4:25 clearly suggest that Mount Sinai is located in Saudi Arabia. This means that Paran being south of Mount Sinai clearly means that it is the Holy City of Mecca .
The Bible clearly says that Paran is south of Sinai in Egypt; "He said: 'The LORD came from Sinai and dawned over them from Seir; he shone forth from Mount Paran. He came with myriads of holy ones from the south, from his mountain slopes.' (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 33:2)"This verse is elaborated on further above. Now, let us first look at Galatians 4:25, then the archeological evidence:
ReplyDelete"Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. (Galatians 4:25)"
There has been a lot of speculation on the route of the Exodus and why the traditional site hasn't yielded any archaeological evidence. After all, if two million people wander in a desert for forty years, you'd think that at least something would be found to support it. But, nothing at all has been unearthed in the Sinai Peninsula supporting the biblical account of the Exodus. Various explanations for this range from the idea that it is naturally difficult to find any archeological evidence in a desert of sand to the explanation that the traditional site is the wrong one.
Christian Archeologists prove from the Bible that Mount Sinai is in "Saudi Arabia”
For centuries Bible scholars and religious pilgrims have been seeking the location of the real Mt. Sinai.Today, most people are unaware that not one piece of hard evidence has been produced to verify that what is traditionally designated at “Mount Sinai” in the south central Sinai Peninsula is indeed the famed mountain of Moses and the Exodus. In fact, the only verifiable reason that the traditional site is designated “Mount Sinai” at all is because a Roman mystic designated it and Helena, mother of Constantine I, anointed it as the true Mount Sinai early in the 4th century AD. (Helena also claimed she discovered the true “holy sepulchre” in Jerusalem and the true cross of Christ.)
Several other proposed sites for the true Mount Sinai have been suggested by biblical scholars, but thus far they have produced no archaeological evidence to support them. If we are ever to discern a correct location for the historical events recorded in the biblical Book of Exodus, it’s important to use the Scriptures as a guide, just as we would use any ancient documents that have proven reliable in the past.
In the New Testament, Paul wrote in Galatians 4:25, “Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia . . .”Although some argue that here the Roman designation of Arabia includes the Sinai Peninsula, Arabia in Paul’s day encompassed a larger region that primarily designated the populated regions of ancient Midian, or modern-day Saudi Arabia. As a “Hebrew of Hebrews,” Paul’s understanding of Arabia would have been one that was consistent with Old Testament passages like 1 Kings 10:15, 2 Chronicles 9:14, Isaiah 21:13, Jeremiah 25:24, and Ezekiel 27:21, in which Arabia is clearly identified with the region east of the Gulf of Aqaba, where “kings” ruled and the “Dedanites” co-dwelt with other nomadic peoples. Even more telling, Exodus 3:1 plainly identifies Mount Horeb (Sinai) as being in Midian: “Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian. And he led the flock to the back of the desert, and came to Horeb, the mountain of God.” Here, there are two important issues. First, the region of “Midian” referred to here is undeniably the same as present-day Saudi Arabia.
Second, at the traditional site of Mt. Sinai on the Sinai Peninsula, there is nothing that would cause it to be geographically identified with the “back” of a desert, in distinction from its surroundings. By contrast, the site proposed by BASE Institute is, indeed, on the far side or margin of a vast desert in ancient Midian. However, can ancient Midian be identified with the Sinai Peninsula, which in the time of Moses, was considered a part of Egypt (although designated as the “wilderness” of Egypt)? It is apparent from Exodus 2:15 that the two were separate entities. After killing an Egyptian, Moses fled Egypt for safer ground: “When Pharaoh heard of this, he tried to kill Moses, but Moses fled from Pharaoh and went to live in Midian.” Egypt and its holdings would not have been safe for Moses under any circumstances. He would not have fled to the Sinai Peninsula, where archaeology shows that Pharaoh had multiple mining interests and military outposts. The Bible is clear that Moses went out totally of Egypt, to the land of Midian east of the gulf of Aqaba. The Bible makes several references to Moses returning to Egypt from Midian, including Exodus 4:19 where we read, “Now the Lord had said to Moses in Midian, ‘Go back to Egypt, for all the men who wanted to kill you are dead.” All passages associated with Moses’ stay in Midian point toward present-day Saudi Arabia as the area to which Moses fled, subsequently met God at the burning bush, and then returned with the children of Israel.
ReplyDeleteBecause so many Bible references as well as archaeological evidence (or the lack of it) pointed away from traditional Mount Sinai and toward Saudi Arabia as the location of the historical mountain of Moses, a site inspection was necessary to determine if other evidence could be found to support this theory. Saudi Arabia’s closed borders made it impossible for a team of scholars and archaeologists to enter the country. As a result, Larry Williams and Bob Cornuke surreptitiously slipped into the country, traced what appears to be the Exodus route, and climbed the mountain which many scholars now consider to be the true Mount Sinai. Besides, Jethro , father in law of Moises and Zeporah wife of Moises buried in the cave of Elijah which in the Mt. Sinai or Jabar Al Laws of Saudi Arabia.
At napakalinaw pa rin sa Bible sa utos ng Diyos sa kay Moises : "Observe and obey all these words (Torah)which I command you, that it may go well with you and your children after you forever, when you do what is good and right in the sight of the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 12:28).Ano sabi dito ? Forever dina pwedeng baguhin ang Torah. Kaya ang baboy ay tunay na pinagbawal.Ni isang letra sa bible na pinahintulutan tayo kumain ng baboy. Gaya rin ng pangangatuwiran mo sa Deut 18:18: na hindi nakalagay kung sino propeta na tinukoy diyan, nagbiro ka pa nga puwede si Hitler, patawarin kayo ni Allah: Pero , common sense kahit bata maisip niya kung sino ang pinakamalapit sa hula nayan. At pakibasa ang Deut. 34:10 ‘ There has never been a prophet in Israel like Moses, the lord spoke with him face to face”.But si Mohamad(Hindi Israelite) lang ang parang si Moses na nakausap ang Allah ng face to face ng umakyat sa langit(Isra wal Miraj).Brethren ni Moises si Ishmael na diyan nanggaling ang propeta Mohamad thru Kedar na anak ni Ishmael, 13 years older than Isaac.At pinagpala ng Diyos.At Meron sa Bible nakalagay na dapat paboran or higit mahalin ng tatay ang unang Anak, maging ito man ay pinanganak ng ina na mababa ang estado o hindi paborito,basahin mo sa Deut. 21: 10-17 “ Suppose a man has two wives and they both bear him a sons, but the first born son is not the child of his favorite wife(in case of Hagar), he is give a double share of his possessions to his firstborn son, eventhough he is not the son of is favorite wife(Sarah)”. At si Hagar ay tunay na legitimate na asawa ni Abraham, kasi sumang ayon si Sarah. At hindi puwedeng mag kamali at makipagtalik ang propeta na labag sa Diyos.Pagpalain sana kayo ni Allah Bro. Cenon Bibe. Kaya ang sabi ni Jesus(PBUH) “ seek the truth and set you free”.
ReplyDeleteMAY I comment on the statement of "Anonymous" who said:
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Salam to all brothers and sisters:
Please study the story of our forebears, Rajah Sulaiman, Lakan Dula.Rajah Matanda,Rajah Silongan,Lapu-Lapu,Sultan Kudarat were all true valiant Heroes of Moros. Please return to the true Faith Islam.Think twice, the Csatillans Christianized the Moros of Luzon and the Visayas.
Sino si Bonifacio at Rizal? Kinalaban din nila ang kastila na nagdala ng kanilang Religion, bakit ganon?"
Before anything else, Lapu-Lapu was NOT A MUSLIM. He was a PAGAN, who ATE PORK and WORSHIPPED IDOLS.
May I ask: Did Rajah Sulaiman, Lakan Dula, Rajah Matanda,Rajah Silongan,Sultan Kudarat fight for OUR COUNTRY, the PHILIPPINES? Or did they fight for THEIR OWN INTERESTS?
He said, "Please return to the true Faith Islam."
How can we return to a faith that WE NEVER EMBRACED?
It is a historical fact that Islam came 600 year AFTER God became man in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ. That is why many Christians were forced to turn their backs on the faith given by God Himself.
If we are to "return" to the "true faith," shouldn't "we" return to Christianity, which is the ONLY FAITH GIVEN BY GOD?
Take note, ang KINALABAN nina Rizal at Bonifacio ay ang mga KASTILA at HINDI ang SIMBAHAN. MAGKAIBA po yon.
MALI po ang ANALOGY ninyo. Kung sa Ingles pa ay "DISTORTED" o "TWISTED" ang LOGIC.
SORRY.
Sa sinabi ni Anonymous na "Ang Mt. Sinai ay nasa Arabia hindi sa Egypt: see Galatians 4:25
ReplyDelete"For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children."
Ang tanong ko ay "So, what?" or "What's the point?"
Sinai may be proven to be in Egypt and yet that would not negate the fact that God gave His laws to Israelites or the descendants of Israel.
Non-issue ang location ng Mt. Sinai. Its location does not affect the truth that God gave His laws to Moises who was leading the descendants of Israel out of Egypt at that time.
Shouldn't that fact make Arabs rethink their position? Why are they not part of the people or the faith that God chose to receive His laws?
Just a some food for thought.
Anonymous said:
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Many assume Jesus' statements in Mark 7 did away with the dietary restrictions recorded in the Old Testament. How should we understand Christ's words?"
He himself acknowledged that the "food" mentioned in Mk7 as already made clean by God is "food in general" or broma.
When we talk about "food in general," doesn't that include edible "meat" or, according to him, "kreas"?
I think Mk7 is already very clear that Jesus was declaring all food as clean--meat or pork included.
I believe our friend is only trying to confuse himself with his juggling of words.
Peter indeed INITIALLY declared in Acts 10:14 that "Certainly not, sir. For never have I eaten anything profane and unclean."
I am just surprised that "Anonymous" failed to see the response of God to Peter's protestation.
In the immediately succeeding verse (Acts10:15) God said, "What God has made clean, you are not to call profane."
Again, it is clear that God is declaring all kinds of food (especially those that Peter thought to be unclean) as clean.
I am sorry that "Anonymous" appears to have misled himself with more of his word-juggling.
Sabi po sa aking ng isa pang "Anonymous":
ReplyDelete"Ang aking pagpapaliwanag ay nauukol sa kontradiksyon na pinapaliwanag sa Koran. Napakalinaw naman na sinabi ng Allah sa sura Baqarah 2 :106 “ whatever a verse or revelation do, We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, we bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do things.”
Hindi ko po kokontrahin ang sinabi ninyo dahil iyan ang paniniwala ninyo. Kami pong mga Kristiyano ay tinuturuang gumalang sa paniniwala ng iba.
Pero hayaan po sana ninyong magtanong ako para lalo ninyong maipaliwanag ang inyong paniniwala.
Ang unang tanong ko kaugnay sa sinabi ninyo ay:
"Bakit kailangang i-abrogate ng Diyos ng Koran ang Kanyang mga salita? Nagkamali ba Siya sa una niyang sinabi?"
Ayon sa inyo ay "a better one" ang ipapalit.
Bakit po? Hindi ba alam ng Diyos ng Koran ang "better" na pananalita o kautusan noong una Siyang nangusap?
Kung tama ang pagkakaalam ko ay nangusap lang ang Diyos ng Koran sa loob ng 23 taon. Hindi po ba napakaikling panahon naman niyan para "magbago" agad ang isip ng Diyos ng Koran para baguhin Niya ang nauna Niyang sinabi?
At kaugnay sa bagay na iyan, Diyos po ba ang mismong nagsalita at nagsabi ng mga nilalaman ngayon ng Koran?
Bakit ang sabi ng isang Balik Islam ay NEVER daw NARINIG nino man ang Diyos? Sino ang nakarinig sa mga pananalita ng Diyos kaya nailagay sa Koran?
Sabi po ninyo:
"mahigit na dalawang daang talata or nasa limang daan pa sa Koran ang pinalitan ng Allah.Kaya wala kang dapat na alalahanin kapatid na Cenon,tunay na walang mali sa Koran."
Hindi po ba contradictory ang sinabi ninyo?
Kasasabi pa lang ninyo na 200 talata o 500 sa Koran ang "pinalitan ng Allah." Nasa Koran pa ba ang mga "pinalitan" na mga talata na yan o wala na sa Koran?
Kung nasa Koran pa, tama pa rin ba ang mga iyon sa kabila nang "pinalitan" na nga sila? Kung "pinalitan" na sila, hindi ba "mali" na sila? Kung tama pa kasi ang mga iyan ay bakit pa "pinalitan"?
Sana po ay mabigyang liwanag ninyo ang mga katanungan sa isip ko.
Maraming salamat.
Marami pa po akong tanong sa mga nagpapaliwanag kaugnay sa Koran pero sa susunod na po ang iba.
ReplyDeleteTumutok po muna tayo sa mga nauna kong katanungan.
Salamat.
Thank you rin po, Fr. Abe.
Pagpalain po tayo ng Diyos.
Thank you very much Bro. Cenon and Welcome. God bless po. Thank you very much for that wise and solid answers for the Catholic Faith.
ReplyDeleteSorry po kung nagkamali ako sa pag aakala na Muslim si Lapu Lapu. Yong ibang nabanggit ko dyan ay malinaw na ipinaglaban nila ang kanilang paniwala sa Diyos at hindi sa pansarili nila.Magbasa ka ng History kasamang Cenon.
ReplyDeleteYes kinalaban nina Rizal ang mga Kstila, alam ko hindi ang religion. Pero kung isipin mo ang nagdala ng religion ay bakit mo kalabanin kung totoo ang paniniwala mo? smply lang.
Sa location ng MT. Sinai, ay malaking issue sa inyo na mga Kristiano. Kasi napakaraming nagpilgrimage sa maling MT. SINAI, sa paniniwala na true mountain of God. So, malinaw na may religious implications.
Tungkol naman sa abrogation sa Koran:Ganon makapangyariahn ang diyos, kaya niyang palit palitan ang bagay na kung gawin niya.At bago niya ito tatapusin ay naging buo na at talagang perfect na. So, ano ba masama don.
Tungkol naman sa unclean meat,Napakalinaw naman kung naniniwala kau sa lumang tipan:
As God instructed to Moses: "Observe and obey all these words which I command you, that it may go well with you and your children after you forever, when you do what is good and right in the sight of the LORD your God" (Deuteronomy 12:28).Wala tayong dapat pagtalunan diyan kasi maliwanag na sinabi FOREVER.Kung anong nakalagay sa torah ay FOREVER na utos na Diyos.Alam mo naman kung ilang mga pare ang nag compile sa Bible ngayon.
Ang Mt. Sinai ay napakalaki ang kaugnayan sa paniniwala ng isang mananampalataya maging Islam ka man o Kristiyano.Diyan po kinausap ni Prophet Moises ang Diyos.Kung mali naman ang pag akala mo, eh minamali mo naman ang iyong sariling Bibliya.Paano mo masabi na walang punto? Pls read all my blogs.
ReplyDeleteSa Deut 18:18, napakalinaw na hindi si Jesus(PBUH) ang natukoy dyan, kasi sa paniniwala ninyo na Diyos siya. Paano magiging si Jesus, si Moises ay hindi naman diyos.At ang dami beses sa bibliya binanggit ni Jesus na servant cya. Ano naman ang pangangatwiran mo kasamang Cenon?
ReplyDeleteAt paano magiging comforter si Jesus, na sabi nia another comforter will come.At he will glorify me.
Salamat sa tanong mo, Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteWalang sinabi sa Deut 18:18 na ang propeta ay "tao ring tulad ni Moises." Kaya walang batayan ang pagkaunawa mo.
Ang sabi sa Deut 18:18, ang propeta ay "propetang tulad [ni Moises]."
Pagka-propeta ang pagkakatulad nila at hindi sa kalikasan o sa pagkatao ni Moises o sa pagka-Diyos ni Kristo.
Wala sa kalikasan: pagkatao man o pagka-Diyos ang pagkakatulad nila kundi sa pagka-propeta.
Ano ba ang kahulugan ng "propeta" batay sa talatang iyan?
Ayon mismo sa Deut 18:18, ang "propeta" ay magdadala ng mga salita ng Diyos at siya ang magsasabi ng mga iyon sa mga tao.
Si Hesus ang perpektong "propeta" dahil Siya mismo ang Salita ng Diyos (John 1:1) at Siya mismo ang nangaral ng mga Salita ng Diyos sa mga tao.
Sa Jn 14:27 ay sinabi ni Hesus kung kanino galing ang mga sinabi Niya sa mga tao.
Sabi riyan ng Kristo, "Siya na hindi nagmamahal sa akin ay hindi susunod sa aking mga aral."
"Itong mga mga salita na naririnig ninyo ay hindi sa akin; sila ay pag-aari ng Ama na nagsugo sa akin."
Diyan ay lapat na lapat ang sinabi sa Deut 18:18 na ang sasabihin ng propetang tulad ni Moises ay ang mismong salita ng Diyos.
Sa Jn 14:27 ay direktang pinatototohanan ni Hesus na mismong salita ng Ama ang Kanyang mga sinasabi.
Sa paniniwala ng mga Muslim ay ang Propeta nilang si Muhammad ang tinutukoy sa Deut 18:18.
Puwede mo bang sabihin sa mga nagbabasa sa blog na ito kung nagdeklara rin ang Propeta ng Islam na "galing mismo sa Diyos ang mga sinasabi ko"?
Ngayon pa lang ay masasabi kong walang ganoong deklarasyon ang Propeta ng Islam dahil hindi naman siya kinausap ng Diyos.
Ayon sa aral ng Islam, ang kumausap sa kanilang Propeta ay ang "anghel na si Jibril."
Sa madaling salita, hindi ang Diyos ang naglagay ng Kanyang mga salita sa bibig ng Propeta ng Islam kundi isang "anghel." Diyan ay hindi lalapat ang Deut 18:18 sa kanilang propeta.
Ngayon, kung mapatutunayan mo na Diyos mismo ang kumausap at naglagay ng Kanyang mga salita sa bibig ng Propeta ng Islam ay paki patunayan mo para malaman naman namin.
Maraming salamat at maraming salamat po kay Fr. Abe sa pagkakataong ito na makapagpaliwanag sa kanyang blog.
Purihin si Kristo! Purihin ang Diyos!
Kaugnay sa pagiging "comforter" ng Panginoong Hesus.
ReplyDeleteAng salitang ginamit sa Greek at isinalin na "comforter" ay ang "Paracletos."
Ang Paracletos ay nangangahulugan din ng "Advocate" o "Counselor." Siya ay isang manananggol o kakampi sa harap ng Ama.
Paki pansin na ang sabi ng Panginoon sa Jn 14:16:
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate [Paracletos] to be with you always,"
Una, ang ipadadala ay "isa pang Paracletos." Ibig sabihin ay may nauna nang Paracletos.
Sino iyon?
Sabi sa 1Jn2:1, "My children, I am writing this to you so that you may not commit sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous one."
So, si Hesus ay "Advocate" nga. Sa Greek, ay Paracletos.
Si Hesus ang unang Paracletos. At ang isa pang Paracletos na binabanggit sa Jn14:16 ay ang Espiritu Santo.
Ang Espiritu Santo ay nagpupuri kay Hesus. Hindi nga ba ang lahat ng tumatanggap sa Espiritu Santo (ang mga Kristiyano) ay nagpupuri rin kay Hesus?
Ikalawang punto, ayon sa paniniwala ng mga Muslim ang Paracletos raw ay ang Propeta nilang si Muhammad.
Lalapat ba ang Jn14:16 sa Propeta ng mga Muslim?
Ang sabi sa Jn14:16, ang isa pang Paracletos na susuguin ni Hesus ay "makakasama ninyo lagi."
Kasama pa ba natin ang Propeta ng Islam? Narito pa ba siya ngayon?
Hindi na.
E ang Espiritu Santo na Siyang tunay na Paracletos na tinutukoy sa Jn14:16? Kasama pa rin ba ng mga nananampalataya kay Kristo?
Oo. Lagi Siyang kasama ng mga naniniwala kay Hesus. Kaya ang Espiritu Santo ang isa pang Paracletos at wala nang iba pa.
Salamat uli.
Balikan lang natin ang iba pang sinabi mo, Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteMabuti at nakita mo na Diyos ang ipinaglaban ng mga binanggit mong Muslim. Ibig sabihin ay hindi ang bayan ang ipinaglaban nila. So, masasabi natin na hindi para sa bayan ang ginawa nila kundi ang pansarili nilang paniniwala.
Hindi ko alam kung may mga Kristiyanong nagpi-pilgrimage sa Mt. Sinai. Pero kahit sabihin na nasa Arabia ang Sinai ay hindi pa rin iyon nangangahulugan na sa mga Arabo ibinigay ang mga kautusan. Malinaw na sa mga Israelita pa rin iyon ibinigay.
Kaugnay sa abrogasyon, kung Diyos mismo ang nag-alis sa isang aral ay hindi ba nangangahulugan na hindi Niya alam na mali pala yon kaya kailangan pa Niyang baguhin? Yun ang masamang kahulugan ng abrogasyon, hindi ba?
Pagpapakita ba yon ng kapangyarihan o pagpapakita ng kawalan ng alam?
Tungkol sa unclean na karne. Paki pansin na ang kautusan ay ibinigay sa mga Israelita at hindi sa lahat ng tao.
May dahilan din kung bakit ipinagbawal sa mga Israelita ang ilang pagkain. Paki basa ang blog ko sa http://sagot-sa-balik-islam.blogspot.com/ dahil may artikulo ako kaugnay diyan.
At sa mismong mga salita rin ng Panginoong Hesus ay idineklara Niya na malinis na ang lahat ng pagkain. Wala nang maruming pagkain.
Katunayan, ayon kay Pablo (1Tim4:3) ay aral na lang ng demonyo ang pagbabawal sa ilang uri ng pagkain kung sasabihin na iyon ay "marumi."
Paki basa uli ang Deut12:28. Hindi sinabi na "Observe and obey all these words FOREVER ..."
Ang sabi ay "that it may go well with you and your children after you forever,"
Ang "forever" ay hindi nakadugtong sa pagsunod sa utos noon kundi sa kahihinatnan ng mga Israelita.
Ang kaso nga ay hindi sumunod sa lahat ng kautusan ang mga Israelita kaya nasira na ang mga iyon. Dahil doon ay binago na ng Diyos ang kautusan.
Pero kung talagang gusto mong sumunod sa mga kautusan na ibinigay sa mga Israelita ay puwede mo bang sabihin sa akin kung Hudyo ka sa ngayon?
Kung hindi ay bakit hindi? Sa mga Hudyo ibinigay ang mga kautusan na binabanggit mo. Hindi ba?
Salamat po
Maraming, maraming salamat po Bro. Cenon. Pagpalain po kayo ng Maykapal... Ang Panginoong Jesucristo.
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Hi, Call me GEB. You may already have some info about me. I posted my comments and replies to one of your (Catholic) blogs. But your fellow Catholic Defender, ISAHEL ALFONSO, quitted. Are you aware about this?
ReplyDeleteHow about you, ARE YOU NOT A QUITTER LIKE HIM? If so, can you assure me that you will not also delete my valid comments and replies? Even if they are unfavorable and might put you and you beloved church to shame?
Let me know. Thank You!
IF YOU WANT A FULL SCALE WAR THEN REVEAL YOUR FULL AND TRUE IDENTITY... THE REAL ONE AND YOUR TRUE RELIGION. THEN WE WILL SQUARE WITH YOU FAIRLY AND SQUARELY. IF YOU WILL HIDE YOURSELF THE WAY YOU ARE HIDDEN NOW THEN THERE YOU ARE NOT FAIR. YOU SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE A TARGET OUT OF US WHILE YOU WANT YOUR OWN TO BE HIDDEN. O NO, NO, NO... FIGHT A FAIR FIGHT SO THAT YOU SHOW HOW SINCERE YOU ARE IN FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that you really want a fair and square discussion. If that is true, I'm greatly pleased. Prove then that there is more in your words than air and it is not simply pompousness or pretentiousness!
ReplyDeleteIt is you who created this blog to defend your faith to anyone who will doubt or question the truthfulness of your faith. Is your reply a humble admission that you cannot defend your belief if someone’s identity is unknown to you? You are giving your readers options on how they will identify themselves. One of them is anonymous or a pseudonym which distinguish themselves from others. DID YOU GIVE THIS CHOICE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT TO ACCUSED HIM OF BEING UNFAIR WHEN YOU ARE MESSED UP? IS IT YOUR WAY OUT IN YOUR WEAKNESSES AND INCAPABILITIES IN DEFENDING YOUR FAITH? CAN’T YOU DEFEND IN THIS BLOG YOUR FAITH AGAINST THOSE WHO QUESTION OR DOUBT YOUR BELIEF IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PERSONAL IDENTITY OR YOU CAN?
Allow me to make a “MINOR” correction in your words. I’m not fighting fire with fire. If that is your way of fighting, then it’s your choice but I won’t do that. I WILL QUENCH YOUR FIRE WITH WATER!
I hope you won’t do the same DECEPTIONS AND MISREPRESENTATIONS to your readers as what your fellow Catholic Defender, ISAHEL ALFONSO (who failed to look for solutions to an argument which made him quit) did in our supposed to be worthwhile discussion.
Shall I need to say, “PLEASE POST MY REPLY”?
[It seems that you really want a fair and square discussion. If that is true, I'm greatly pleased.]
ReplyDeleteOF COURSE, I WANT A FAIR AND SQUARE DISCUSSION AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU ARE PLEASED WITH THAT.
[Prove then that there is more in your words than air and it is not simply pompousness or pretentiousness!]
THERE IS NO NEED FOR ME TO PROVE IT BECAUSE I HAVE PROVEN IT. PERHAPS IT IS YOU WHO HAVE NOT PROVEN YOURSELVES. YOUR CLAIM OVER AND AGAINST BRO. ISAHEL ALFONSO IS 'HOT AIR'.
BRO. ISAHEL HAS A POPULAR BLOG SIMILAR TO MINE AND WE'VE BEEN EXCHANGING WITH SO MANY PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS. WHILE YOU ARE ENTERING WITH PRETENTIOUS HOT AIR AS IF WE ARE NO MATCH TO YOU. EXCUSE ME. WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH ONLY ONE PERSON HERE. OUR BLOGS ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE FOR A SINGLE PERSON FULL OF HOT AIR LIKE YOU.
IF YOU ARE REALLY THAT GOOD AS YOU CLAIM YOU ARE THEN OPEN YOUR OWN BLOG PRESENTING YOUR OWN DOCTRINES AND FAITH AND WE WILL VISIT YOU FROM VARIOUS DIRECTIONS AND WE SHALL SEE IF YOU ARE AS EFFECTIVE AS WE ARE.
[It is you who created this blog to defend your faith to anyone who will doubt or question the truthfulness of your faith.]
NICE THAT YOU KNOW THAT. AND I HOPE YOU KNOW AS WELL THAT AS THE OWNER OF THIS BLOG I HAVE TH PRIVILEGE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR IDEAS I PREFER TO ANSWER OR COUNTERACT AS I DEEM NECESSARY.
SO, FAR YOU DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY CREDIBILITY TO MERIT MY FULL ATTENTION. I DO NOT SHADOWBOX. I DEAL WITH THOSE WHOM I CONSIDER IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MERIT MY ATTENTION. SO FAR, YOU ARE ONLY HOT AIR AND NOTHING MORE.
[Is your reply a humble admission that you cannot defend your belief if someone’s identity is unknown to you?]
ReplyDeleteYOU ARE FREE TO SPECULATE BASED ON YOUR DELUSIONS. BESIDES, HALLUCINATIONS ARE FREE IN THIS COUNTRY.
SPEAKING OF HUMILITY... YOU ARE VERY HUMBLE WHEN YOU CLAIMED THAT BRO. ALFONSO IS A QUITTER AGAINST YOU? HOW NICE. HOW TOUCHING.
[You are giving your readers options on how they will identify themselves.]
IT IS NOT ME WHO GAVE THAT OPTION BUT THE GOOGLE COMPANY. IF THE MESSAGE FROM NON CATHOLICS ARE CIVIL AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DECENCY I POST THEM EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE AGAINST MY BELIEFS. THOSE WITH CURSES AND OBSCENITIES I REJECT.
BESIDES, THOSE I POST ARE USUALLY CLEAR IN THEIR POSITION: INC, ADD, JW, SDA, ATHEISTS, ETC. SO, WE CAN EASILY EXCHANGE IDEAS. WE CAN COMPARE OUR DOCTRINES. BUT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW YOUR FAITH, YOUR CHURCH AND YOUR DOCTRINES.
IT WILL MAKE OUR EXCHANGE ONE-SIDED. YOU CAN ATTACK ME WITH IMPUNITY BUT IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO HIT YOUR POSITION. EXCUSE ME. THAT IS NOT FAIR.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAITH AND YOUR CHURCH. LET ME KNOW YOUR DOCTRINES... THE REAL ONE NOT BASED ON DECEPTION. THEN YOU CAN QUESTION MY FAITH AND I WILL QUESTION YOURS. YOU ATTACK AND I WILL DEFEND, I WILL ATTACK AND YOU WILL DEFEND.
THAT IS THE RULE OF CHIVALRY. THAT IS THE BUSHIDO CODE. THERE IS RULE IN DEBATES WHETHER IN CLASSROOMS, IN PUBLIC PLAZAS OR IN BLOGS.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN THEN YOU ARE A PLAIN COWARD.
[One of them is anonymous or a pseudonym which distinguish themselves from others. DID YOU GIVE THIS CHOICE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT TO ACCUSED HIM OF BEING UNFAIR WHEN YOU ARE MESSED UP?]
ReplyDeleteINDEED I OPENED THIS BLOG. SO YOU HAVE TO ABIDE TO THE DEMANDS OF THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE... YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OWNER. NOT THAT YOU WILL IMPOSE WHAT YOU WANT ON ME. IF OTHERS I DIDN'T DEMAND SUCH A THING THAT IS MY PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AS AN OWNER. I CAN LET ANYONE THAT I WANT IN MY OWN HOUSE AND IN MY OWN TERRITORY. YOU WANT TO ENTER THIS TERRITORY BY CHALLENGING ME WITH 'HOT AIR' SUPERIORITY THEN SHOW YOURSELF.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN THEN YOU ARE A PLAIN COWARD. ON MY PART, I AM NOT HIDING. I AM FULLY REVEALED WHILE YOU ARE LURKING IN THE DARK LIKE THE EVIL SHELOB IN LORD OF THE RING OR LIKE THE PIRATES AND HOLD-UPPERS, OR RATHER LIKE SATAN.
[IS IT YOUR WAY OUT IN YOUR WEAKNESSES AND INCAPABILITIES IN DEFENDING YOUR FAITH?]
MY CAPABILITIES TO DEFEND OUR CATHOLIC FAITH DOES NOT NEED ANY PROOF. THE SUCCESS AND NUMEROUS READERS AND VISITORS OF THIS BLOG ARE LIVING TESTIMONIES FOR THAT. IT IS THE ANONYMOUS LIKE YOU WHO DON'T HAVE CREDIBILITY. YOU LACK NOT ONLY THE IDENTITY BUT ALSO THE COMPETENCE AND THE PROOF FOR SUCH.
I HAVE SERIES OF EXCHANGES HERE WITH THE PASTORS OF BEREANS, OF OTHER PASTORS OF THE BORN-AGAIN AND BAPTISTS AND EVEN PROFESSIONALS OF VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS. WHAT HAVE YOU GOT? HOT AIR.
[CAN’T YOU DEFEND IN THIS BLOG YOUR FAITH AGAINST THOSE WHO QUESTION OR DOUBT YOUR BELIEF IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PERSONAL IDENTITY OR YOU CAN?]
OF COURSE I DO. I DID THAT AND I'M DOING IT STILL. HOWEVER, FOR SPECIAL PEOPLE WITH HOT AIR LIKE YOU I RATHER WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SPECIAL. I WANT A FAIR AND SQUARE SWORD-FIGHTING. IN THAT CASE YOU CAN TRULY CLAIM VICTORY OVER ME, NOT AS A PIRATE ATTACKING IN THE DARK BUT AS A ONE WHO STOOD HIS GROUND TO A FELLOW MAN IN AN OPEN ARENA.
[Allow me to make a “MINOR” correction in your words. I’m not fighting fire with fire. If that is your way of fighting, then it’s your choice but I won’t do that. I WILL QUENCH YOUR FIRE WITH WATER!]
AFTER CLAIMING THAT YOUR PREVIOUS OPPONENT QUIT AGAINST YOU THAT STATEMENT IS ANOTHER HOT AIR. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY AND COMPETENCE TO PRETEND TO BE QUENCHING FIRE WITH WATER. IT SOUNDS NICE BUT ITS UNCONVINCING.
THE VERY FACT THAT YOU DEMAND TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN I'M ASKING YOU TO REVEAL YOURSELF AND YOUR POSITION IS A PROOF OF YOUR HYPOCRISY AND COWARDICE. IT IS A CLEAR MANIFESTATION THAT YOU ARE TREACHEROUS AND UNJUST.
ENOUGH OF YOUR SWEET-TALKING. REMOVE YOUR MASK. WEARING 'THE MASK OF ZORRO' IS NO LONGER FASHIONABLE THESE DAYS... IT'S AN OLD MOVIE. HA HA HA....
[I hope you won’t do the same DECEPTIONS AND MISREPRESENTATIONS to your readers as what your fellow Catholic Defender, ISAHEL ALFONSO (who failed to look for solutions to an argument which made him quit) did in our supposed to be worthwhile discussion.]
THIS IS JUST A HOT AIR FROM A HIDDEN PIRATE OF THE CARIBBEAN. HA HA HA... WELL, JUST TO MAKE YOU HAPPY: 'I'M IMPRESSED... BY YOUR UNFOUNDED CLAIMS." HA HA HA...
[Shall I need to say, “PLEASE POST MY REPLY”?]
THERE IS NO NEED. WE WILL ENJOY IT AS A PROOF OF THE COWARDICE OF AN ANTI-CATHOLIC WHO REFUSES TO FIGHT FAIRLY AND SQUARELY. AN ANTI-CATHOLIC WHO PREFERS TO FIGHT THE WAY THE CRIMINALS, THE ASSASINS, THE HOMICIDAL AND THE PIRATES USED TO. HA HA HA... IMAGINE, HOW PROUD YOU ARE OF THAT. HOW PROUD YOU ARE OF ATTACKING OTHERS WHILE HIDING YOURSELF. HA HA HA...
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PLEASE GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO THIS ANTI-CATHOLIC COWARD. HE WANTS TO ENGAGE ME IN A DISCUSSION WITHOUT TELLING US WHAT AND WHO HE IS! CLAP, CLAP, CLAP!!!
HA HA HA...
Ang suggestion ko, sagutinn a lang nating mga katoliko ang mga tanong at atake sa atin kahit na siguro di sila magpakilala dahil nga mga duwag ang mga iyan.. pero ang mahala siguro yaong mga itinatanong nila at mga tuligsa dahil baka makadaya sila ng iba... suggestion lang naman itong akin.
ReplyDeleteROEL, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. HOWEVER, WE SHOULD ALSO LEARN THE ART OF WAR. WE CANNOT JUST ACCEPT THE DEMANDS OF OUR ENEMIES POINT BLANK. WE MUST WISE IN DEALING WITH TREACHEROUS OPPONENTS. WE SHOULD NOT GIVE AN INCH.
ReplyDeleteGEB, IF YOU WANT A REAL EXCHANGE WITH ME YOU MUST REVEAL YOURSELF AND YOUR FAITH. I WANT TO SEE THE REAL PERSON AND NOT A MASK.
ReplyDeleteI AM NOT A QUITTER BECAUSE I AM NOT THE ONE HIDING. YOU ARE!!! YOU ARE THE QUITTER.
YOU DO NOT DESERVE MY TIME AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT HUMANIZE YOURSELF. DON'T BE A QUITTER.
mag pakilala ka na GEB,duwag ka ! huwag kang magtago sa saya ng iyong lola,kung magaling ka !IMPAKTO KA SIGURO NA SUGO NG DEMONYO.....PAKILALA KA PARA MAUMPISAHAN NA.....MABUHAY ANG LAHAT NA ROMANO KATOLIKO..........
ReplyDeleteI HAVE ALREADY POSTRED HERE MY EXCHANGES WITH THAT ANONYMOUS DEVIL. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HIM AND HIS IDEAS ASK HIM TO OPEN HIS OWN BLOG.
ReplyDeleteIf I am the one being referred as anonymous devil, then, IT IS A ANOTHER BLATANT ACCUSATION AGAINST MY PERSONALITY WITHOUT ANY UNQUESTIONABLE PROOF. If that is your position against me, Then, PROVE IT! Or, else you are the ACCUSER!
ReplyDeleteYour readers particularly the Lord Christ Jesus are expecting you as a priest and defender of the catholic faith to be A MAN OF HONESTY AND INTEGRITY. But sorry to say, YOU ARE NOT! You don’t have to fear anyone if He is in your side. He is not a liar like you. I have not raised yet any issues against your faith. However, what you are doing is a MISREPRESENTATION OF MY POSITION.
YOUR BLOG IS BIAS AND FULL OF INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY.
I'm asking for an assurance that you really want a fair and square discussion with me. Yet, you have proven otherwise.
If you really want my true identity, my religious affiliation if I have any, and even other personal data that you may ask, THEN POST THIS IN YOUR BLOG AND TELL TO YOUR READERS WHEN AND WHERE SHALL WE MEET PERSONALLY. It is only then that we can discuss real sensible and sound arguments about our contrasting beliefs--in A NEUTRAL GROUND.
You may bring with you Isahel Alfonso and anyone of your CFD’s. Alfonso loves apologetics and for sure, you too. Tell him that his dream of meeting me in a public debate will come true if he is telling the truth when he posted it at our exchanges but were later on deleted.
THE ANONYMOUS DEVIL IS TRYING TO APPEAR COURAGEOUS AND HONEST. HA HA HA... NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE STILL A HIDING COWARD WHILE ISAHEL AND I ARE NOT HIDING AT ALL.
ReplyDeleteI HAD POSTED YOUR MESSAGES AND HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE. INSTEAD IT IS YOU WHO IS A HIDING DEVIL. IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT YOU HAVE IDEAS AND MESSAGES THAT I DIDN'T POST THEN POST IT IN YOUR BLOG AND LET US SEE IF PEOPLE WILL READ IT. YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU LACK CREDIBILITY BEING A HIDING COWARD.
GET OUT OF YOUR MASK AND HIDE-OUT. COME INTO THE LIGHT. HE HE HE...
What assurance is being asked by GeB from you that you will be fair and square in your discussion with him. Please let us know.
ReplyDeleteFather, this anonymous devil is challenging us. We need to confront him so the truth will keep on shining to those in the dark!
ReplyDeleteFather, are we not going to accept the challenge of this anonymous devil pretending to be honest and courageous?
ReplyDeleteLet's face him to prove to anyone that he can't just posed a challenge in our blog and not be put to shame his boastfulness!
HOW CAN WE FACE A FACELESS DEMON?
ReplyDeleteTHIS GEB IS A PURE AND BLOODED ANIMAL,LIAR AND HYPOCRITE. THIS HIDING DEMON WILL ONLY BE ENTERTAINED ONCE HE REVEAL HIS FULL AND TRUE IDENTITY.
ReplyDelete[What assurance is being asked by GeB from you that you will be fair and square in your discussion with him. Please let us know.]
ReplyDeleteI WILL TELL YOU ONCE THE COWARDLY AND HIDING DEVIL WILL COME OUT OF THE OPEN.
UNTIL NOW THE COWARDLY DEVIL IS STILL HIDING AND REFUSES TO REVEAL HIS IDENTITY!
ReplyDeleteGod declared that he will bless those who bless his true servants, but curse those who curse them. You have been throwing curses and lies on me. If I don’t belong to his true servants, you need not worry on anything. But if I am, wait for a little time. My God will make you an object of horror, and contempt. God’s curse will follow you and will always be with you
ReplyDeleteMAY THE LORD BLESS YOU GEB. MAY THE LORD LEAD YOU FROM THE DARKNESS WHERE YOU ARE HIDING INTO HIS MARVELOUS LIGHT OUTSIDE WHERE THERE IS NO MASK AND HYPOCRISY. MY BLESSING TO YOU.
ReplyDeleteFather, Why did you not accept the challenge of Geb to face him in a neutral ground. I think that is fair for him and for all of us.
ReplyDeleteWE DO NOT ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE FROM AN ANONYMOUS DEVIL. IF YOU WANT YOU CAN MEET EACH OTHER AND ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY BECAUSE YOU ARE BOTH ANONYMOUS. ENJOY YOURSELVES. WE ARE NOT STUPID TO TREAT AS HUMANS ONE WHO IS NOT ONE.
ReplyDeleteIf it is true that you are not accepting challenge from anonymous person, why then you are challenging some of your opponents who post their comment to face you in an open ground?
ReplyDeleteSO THAT THE HIDING ANIMALS LIKE GEB WILL HAVE THE COURAGE TO REVEAL HIMSELF AND GET OUT OF DARKNESS.
ReplyDeleteKUNG MATAPANG ITONG NAGTATAGONG ANIMAL NA SI GEB E LUMABAS NA SIYA. LABAS KUNG LALABAS. HINDI YUNG MARAMING DRAMA.
ReplyDeleteLALABAS LANG E KUNG ANO ANO PA ANG KUNDISYON. ANG KAPAL NG MUKA NIYANG MUKANG BUWITRE.
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ReplyDeletenagbiro ka pa nga puwede si Hitler, patawarin kayo ni Allah:
ANONYMOUS PAANO MAGPATAWAD SI ALLAH! HINDI NAMAN TUNAY NA DIOS YAN? MAY MGA ANAK PA NGA SIYA e!
ILAN!
TATLO PA!
MY IDENTTTY IS IN THE OPEN SINCE I OPENED THIS BLOG YEARS AGO. NEVER DID I HID MYSELF. IF THIS DEMON GEB AND HIS MINIONS OF MALIGNANT SPIRITS ARE NOT COWARDLY THEY MUST REVEAL THEMSELVES WITHOUT ANY CONDITION. WE DO NOT ENTERTAIN ANIMALS HERE AND HIDING DEMONS. GET OUT OF THE DARK GEB AND ARISE FROM YOUR RESTING PLACE IN HELL.
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