A very old Latin Bible with illustrations
Good Day Father,Maitanong ko rin po,totoo po ba na walang Deutoricanon na naisulat sa original na manoscrito.Dinagdagan raw nang Simbahang Katoliko ang original na bible from 66 books dinadagan natin ng anin na aklat para maging 72.Ano ba talaga ang totoo tuinkol sa isyong ito. At bakit mayrong Gospel ni Judas sa Bibleya na kung saan si Hudas ang dahilan kung bakit pinatay si Jesukristo? Sana Father naunawaan mo ang tanong ko? Maraming salamat.
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Dear Anonymous,
For sure you must be a CFD Youth from USEP.
Welcome again to the Splendor of the Church.
Merong Deuterocanon and original na Biblia ng mga Apostoles. Dahil ang Bibliang ginamit ng mga Apostoles sa pagsulat ng New Testament ay ang Greek Bible na SEPTUAGINT, hindi ang MASORETIC TEXT sa wikang Hebrew. Ang Septuagint na gamit ng mga Apostoles ay 73 Books, samantalang ang Masoretic Text in Hebrew na gamit ng mga Fariseo ay 66 Books.
Hindi natin dinagdagan ang Biblia kasi tayo ang nauna sa mga Protestante. SILA ANG NAGBAWAS DAHIL KAMAKAILAN LANG SILA DUMATING. For 1,500 years 73 books ang Bible ng mga Cristiano, nung dumating si Martin Luther dun nya lang ginawang 66.Tignan mo ang bilang:
CATHOLIC = 73 [7 the number of perfection and 3 the number of the Holy Trinity]
PROTESTANT = 66 [that is the number of the Devil = 666, they simply witheld one number para hindi halata]
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CONCERNING THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS:
Ang Gospel ni Judas ay peke, kasi wala namang Gospel na sinulat si Judas dahil siya ang unang namatay sa mga Apostoles. Di ba nagbigti sya sa Jerusalem at sumbulat ang tiyan ayon sa Acts 1:18.
Lahat ng aklat sa New Testament ay nasulat ng umakyat na sa langit si Jesus. Ngayon, kung patay na si Judas Iscariote, sino ang sumulat ng Gospel of Judas? Siempre hindi si Judas. HIndi rin isa sa mga Apostoles. IBIG SABIHIN PEKE ITO. KAYA HINDI DAPAT PANIWALAAN. Kaya ibinasura at isinuka ng Santa Iglesia ng pinili nito ang mga aklat na isasama sa New Testament.
Obvious naman na ito ay Peke:
1. All Gospels were written in Koine Greek. This one is written in Coptic, an old language in Egupt. That is the language of the Gnostic sects which are enemies of the Church.
2. All New Testament writings were written before 100A.D. This fake Gospel is written about 200A.D.
Kaya talagang FAKE and UNACCEPTABLE TO OUR CATHOLIC FAITH.YOu're welcome. Please introduce yourself. I want to know the CFD USEP as friends.
God bless you too.
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Father,
ReplyDeleteGud Am! I am Don's mom your friend from CFD Davao. I am a member of the Couples for Christ, we were taught to practice praying in tongues and perform baptism of the holy spirit. And they even put more emphasis on these ambiguous practices than the Holy Eucharist. Personally I'm not in agreement with this. What can you say about this? And I also notice that the teachings of the group is no longer in accordance with the Magisterium. Thank you and God bless!
ah ok very informative and detailed! naalala ko po kasi sabi nung Theo teacher namin nun kaya daw mas marami yung sa Catholics kasi by the time na humiwalay yung ibang sect e yung 66 pa lang yung ginagamit dipa "canonical" yung iba.. tapos later parang included narin...hay magulo ba? hahaha basta mas ok tong explanation ni Fr. kahit na medyo nakaka nosebleed ang terms!
ReplyDeleteI got an article from the website of Catholic United for the Faith (http://cuf.org):
ReplyDeleteCatholic Bibles contain all the books that have been traditionally accepted by Christians since Jesus' time. Protestant Bibles contain all those books, except those rejected by Protestant Reformers in the 1500s. The chief reason Protestants rejected these biblical books was because they did not support Protestant doctrines, for example, 2 Maccabees supports prayer for the dead.The term "canon" means rule or guideline, and in this context means, "which books belong in the Bible (and, by implication, "which do not)."
The Catholic Old Testament follows the Alexandrian canon of Septuagint, the Old Testament which was translated into Greek around 250 BC.The Protestant Reformers followed the Palestinian canon of Scripture which was not officially recognized by Jews until around 100 AD.
More of this can be read in http://cuf.org/faithfacts/details_view.asp?ffID=28
Dear Mrs. Alonso,
ReplyDeleteIf you have observed that this group is venturing into heresy and is drifting away from our Biblical Faith then you are no longer obliged to stay in that group. You can resign and state in your letter of resignation the reasons for your decision. So that the group will realize that what they are doing is not tolerated by faithful Catholics.
Our loyalty is to Christ and His Church not on organizations that is not faithful to the Church founded by the Lord. For sure not all of Couples for Christ are like that. Most probably this is done by some leaders thinking that by imitating the Protestants and the Born Again they are following the Bible. Tsk, tsk... they simply show their ignorance of the Bible.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteHa, ha, ha... nakakatuwa kang bata ka.
Correct Bro. Tito. Very good. Thank you for that. I gave the historical reasons and you gave the doctrinal reasons. Isa pang ayaw nila is that the Book of Tobit supports Catholic Doctrine for Guardian Angels.
ReplyDeleteThanks Father Abe for this wonderful explanation!
ReplyDeleteGod bless.
Welcome po.
ReplyDeletethe calvinists also rejected the book of sirach because it directly supports the Catholic doctrine of 'free will' sirach 15:11-20, that contradicts their doctrine of 'predestination'... that everyone was predestined by God from the beginning either to go to heaven or hell,a very cruel and unbiblical doctrine....
ReplyDeleteO that is very valuable information Bro. Denzky. Thank you very much. Indeed, if we Catholic Apologists are helping each other we can teach a lot of people to know more the faith.
ReplyDeletegood morning father. since isahel is busy reviewing for his coming board exams,here i am tinkering with the computer. i,m not an expertise when it comes to computers. thank you very much for your advice. we have been a member of this organization (couples in Christ) for 12 years but talagang ni rereject ko ang praying in tongues. in fact we have brought this matter to our elders. truly CFC is drifting away from our biblical faith. again father thank you very much. pls pray for isahel. he speaks highly of you. idol ka nya.GOD BLESS. MRS. FE ALFONSO
ReplyDeleteDear Mrs. Fe,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your kind words and your fidelity to the Church despite the willingness of others to engage in doctrinal or devotional novelty invented by Protestants.
I want you to know that I greatly respect and admire your son, Isahel, too. He is a very intelligent young man and a very good defender of the faith in his own right. Our support and respect of each other is mutual as well as reciprocated.
God bless you and your family.
nakakaaliw naman po father yung analysis nyo kung bakit 66 ang bilang ng libro ng mga protestants, 666 na hindi lang halata hehe
ReplyDeleteshare ko lang po, may two part video po sa youtube.com na isang SOLIDONG SOLIDONG DEPENSA para sa legitimacy ng deuterocanons, type nyo lang po yung keyword na "why do catholics have seven bibles" sa search at yung top two videos po ng isang nagngangalang "ithcus" po yung tinutukoy ko, ikinabit ko narin po sa username ko yung part 1 nung vid...
at alam nyo po ang nakakatawa don? date po syang protestant, katolikong katoliko na sya ngayon!!! ahahaha
share nyo father ha! yang si ithcus na yan eh maraming marami pa pong MATINDING MATINDING DEPENSA para sa simbahan, malakas po pwersa nyan, ganyan naman po talaga ang mga converts to catholicism sa amerika eh, inlab na inlab sa simbahan hehe
Dear Curious Catholic,
ReplyDeleteThis answer is not intended to give a full explanation or all the solid reasons for our Catholic Bible. These are quick answers to basic questions like those you are giving.
I still have to answer you on Scriptures.
God bless.
ok po father, pero di ko po magets kung bakit nyo sinabing "i still have to answer you on scriptures"???
ReplyDeletefather tanong ko narin po, nung hindi pa po nangyayari yung schism ng east and west anong bible po yung gamit ng east? siguro naman po hindi latin vulgate dahil hindi sila latin speaking, so ano po ang gamit nila???
tenkyu
Sorry for failing to express myself more clearly: 'I still have to answer you on Scriptures' means I still have to provide you an answer concerning your questions on Sacred Scriptures. That is still unanswered until now and will soon respond to it.
ReplyDelete[father tanong ko narin po, nung hindi pa po nangyayari yung schism ng east and west anong bible po yung gamit ng east? siguro naman po hindi latin vulgate dahil hindi sila latin speaking, so ano po ang gamit nila???]
The Latin Vulgate was accepted and considered a valid translation by both East and West prior to the Schism.
However, since the Eastern Church is mostly Greek speaking so there is no need to translate the Bible for them. They are using the original Greek New Testament and the Greek Septuagint Old Testament used by the Apostles and early Christians.
ah! hehe, many thanks po father!
ReplyDeleteingat po lage!!!!!!!!
Peace be with you Father Abe,
ReplyDeleteGusto ko lang mag bigay ng maliit na koment doon sa words ni Mrs. Alonso sa itaas..
[he speaks highly of you. idol ka nya.GOD BLESS. MRS. FE ALFONSO]
Sana naman Sister Fe... hwag lang tayong gagamit ng idol kasi po baka ibahin na naman ng bibilical meaning ng idol na word na bigay mo...
Baka maging false god na naman nyan si Fr., Abe...(Idol - a representation of a false god.)
So for us catholics we must be careful in using terms which sometimes of most of the times misinterpreted by other sects.
Good day,
FROM: bro. edward l. lagos
catholic faith defender president
bayawan city chapter
negros oriental 6221
Re; verba volant scripta manent - "ang pulong binaba mulabay apan and sinulat magpabilin"
Dear Fr. Abe,
ReplyDeleteI've read dozen of tracts regarding opinions of orthodox priests-preacher (in the internet) his opinion that it was the church of Rome who breakaway from the Church of the East (Orthodox). Prior to 1054AD, or shall we say by the year 300-400 was the eastern church called ORTHODOX at this period? Or by the year 400-700AD were they calling already themselves as orthodox or not? Because I've have not found any reading materials that they were already called "orthodox" before the formal break in 1054?
I was asked by a protestant one time when we have our exchange of church history [probably he has also read a lot] my answer was was that I presented immediately the Nicene Creed and for sure my explanation was in the "...one, holy, catholic, apostolic church..." which our brothers [orthodox] also claimed. They used the nicene creed in the holy mass [without mentioning the filioque clause]. Further, I explained more that orthodox have been\is using that until today claiming they are also Catholics so what's the question about it?
Now I've also read a document that there are a number of protestant churches who used our nicene creed. Any comment father?
Dear Eduardo,
ReplyDeleteI have a recent exchange or say informal debate in written form with an Orthodox Deacon here in the Philippines. You can check it here:
http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/search/label/Orthodox
Its quite a long exchange.
Indeed the Nicene Creed proves that the Church is called Catholic by the Universal Church before the 1054 break. Also, St. Ignatius of Antioch and the Fathers were referring to the Catholic Church as the proper name of the Church. The name 'Orthodox Church' truly started to be in use only after the major break with the Bishop of Rome.
There are a number of Protestant churches who use the Nicene Creed but they so deceive themselves by distorting its meaning. They justify that the term catholic there does not refer to the Church of Rome but to all christians of which they are part of.
Dear father Abe,
ReplyDeletePeace!
O thank you so much Father.Ill follow through the link that you gave.
God bless.
Eduardo
Welcome po Bro. Ed. Saludo po ako sa inyong mga CFD.
ReplyDeleteDear Father,
ReplyDeleteI'll just seek some opinion from you regarding these matters:
1) What do you think is your idea why the JW-Jehovah's Witnesses distorted John 1:1 as read in their New World Translation?
2) I've read the phrase "doctrine of Christ" :The expression "doctrine of Christ" in 2 John 9-11 is a case in point. Second John 9-11 reads as follows:
"9: Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.10: If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:11: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."
Now there are a number of sects that accuse catholic doctrines are doctrine of men not of Christ's.
Any opinion Father Abe?
[1) What do you think is your idea why the JW-Jehovah's Witnesses distorted John 1:1 as read in their New World Translation?]
ReplyDeleteObvious Brod. They distorted it in order to suit their own beliefs. In order to deceive more Catholics and lure them to their own self invented religion they have to manipulate the Bible.
[2) I've read the phrase "doctrine of Christ" :The expression "doctrine of Christ" in 2 John 9-11 is a case in point. Second John 9-11 reads...
Now there are a number of sects that accuse catholic doctrines are doctrine of men not of Christ's.
Any opinion Father Abe? ]
The Doctrine of Christ refers to the corpus of Revelation that Jesus proclaimed as The Good News of Salvation. That is what is God the Father wanted the Son to reveal to His people for our salvation.
Jesus passed all of that as the Truth of Faith He entrusted to THE CHURCH led by His Apostles. The Apostles call it THE DEPOSIT or THE DEPOSIT OF THE FAITH. Look at this:
1 Tim 6:20 [English Standard Version] "O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called "knowledge," and
2 Tim 1:14 [ESV] "By the Holy Spirit who dwells within us, guard the good deposit entrusted to you."
See, our Catholic term for the body or corpus of doctrine given by Jesus to the Apostles and the Apostles handed on to their successors is DEPOSIT. That is why we call it THE DEPOSIT OF FAITH.
Of course it is the Catholic Church to which this Revelation of Christ or the Deposit of the Faith has been entrusted. Because the Apostles were the first Pope and Bishops of the Church. Then it was the Church that wrote the Bible, codified it, canonized it and proclaimed it to the people for two thousand years.
The Jehovah Witnesses came from the U.S. heretics not from the Apostles.