ARK OF THE COVENANT, replica Anonymous said...
why do you kneel on graven images?
November 25, 2009 1:18 AM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
Because God ordered Moses and Solomon to make graven images to be put inside the Temple, the Altar, the Sanctuary, the Tabernacle and the Holy of Holies.
The Bible has presented a lot of passages describing the Temple designed by God as full of images of Cherubims, Flowers, Palms, Fruits, Bulls, Lions, etc. These are all images in the Temple of God. One of which and the most popular is the ARK OF THE COVENANT with two large graven images of Angels sculpted in wood and gold.
You can check my presentation on Sacred Images, in the topics listed on the right side of this blog.
Then Solomon KNELT in front of the Altar [1 Kings 8:54] while Joshua KNELT before the Ark of the Lord [Joshua 7:6].
ELI SORIANO IS TEACHING THAT THE ADD MEMBERS KNEEL BEFORE THE SUN. THEIR WORSHIP IS FACING THE EAST. NOW, WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THE TEACHING THAT THE BELIEVERS OF GOD MUST KNEEL FACING THE SUN? He, he, he.... Where? Chapter and Verse please. He, he, he...
If we will use your reasoning, the ADD members are PAGANS. They are worshipping THE SUN. They are doing exactly what the worshippers of the Sol Invictus before the coming of Christianity. He, he, he.... INTERESTING ISN'T IT?
November 25, 2009 9:17 AM
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Good one Father Abe!
ReplyDeleteRegardless of the many questions from ADD that had been answered thousands of years ago, where is ELI SORIANO today? He's hiding. A preacher in hiding lost his credibility to teach. So instead of questioning us, search the answers. It was answered long back before Eli Soriano's grand grand grand parents were born.
ReplyDeleteGod bless those who love God and his Church! Amen.
Thank you so PinoyCatholic. Praise the Lord.
ReplyDeleteFirst you write a lie:
ReplyDelete"ELI SORIANO IS TEACHING THAT THE ADD MEMBERS KNEEL BEFORE THE SUN."
Then you attack your own lie.
Haha! First, learn to be honest and truthful. Then maybe we can believe you. Being truthful is required of anyone dealing with God's word.
Nobody in ADD has been taught to kneel before the sun. At night, when we pray towards the east, there is no sun there anymore. You see?
You can try again.
Your title says: An ADD Inquires About Catholic Practice of Kneeling Before Graven Images
ReplyDeleteBe careful of those who identify themselves as ADD members.
Recently, Wilfredo (Willy) L. Santiago, Warlee Santiago, Almer Caras and their co-horts were booted out from membership after an open investigation. They reaped the judgement worse than excommunication: being given to satan.
A bona fide member of the ADD would not ask you questions of faith - that is for sure. The bible scholar and expert is with us.
Bias! you block replies that contradicts your belief~! show mya post then let the reader decide
ReplyDeleteMs. Abao,
ReplyDeleteNow the more you have revealed to us how evil and pagan and demonic your beloved ADD is. He, he, he...
First, you deny kneeling in front of the sun yet you admit that you are kneeling in front of the EAST. Don't you know the implications of that doctrine?
1. In the morning you are kneeling before the Sun as the pagans did. Whether you can see the sun or not is irrelevant because the East is called East because of the Sun. It is the sun that makes it east.
2. In the morning you are kneeling before the Sun. In the noonday you are kneeling before the EMPTY VOID which is another pagan doctrine. In fact it is atheistic. Then in the evening you are facing the East still, it means you are worshipping Darkness.
IN ALL ACCOUNT YOU ARE PAGANISTIC IN YOUR WORSHIP. KNEELING BEFORE THE EAST IS SATANIC PRACTICE FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU CLAIMED THAT IT IS IDOLATRY TO KNEEL BEFORE ANY CREATURES.
DON'T TELL ME MS. JANE ABAO THAT GOD IS IN THE EAST. WILL YOU? Ha, ha, ha...
Are you the Manggagawa referred to by Ms. Resilyn Bago? Well, it seems that you are as stupid and as ignorant as she is. That is why she is poisoned by your reasonings. You have the same illogical ideas and distorted concept of truth.
YOUR LIES SMUCK ON YOUR FACE.
Ms. Abao,
ReplyDeleteThe one who inquired about Kneeling practices of the Catholic Church is a person, a lady known to us personally, and now she claims to be a member of ADD. Therefore, it is too much stretch of imagination for you to think that I am referring to Mr. Willy Santiago the long time buddy of Soriano whom now he gave up to Satan. He, he, he...
Well, I think Mr. Santiago can speak for himself on the matter and I have nothing to do with that. I am just amused that when Willy was still faithful to Soriano he belongs to heaven but when he revealed the doctrinal errors of Soriano he is suddenly given to Satan.
IT IS NICE TO HEAR THAT SORIANO AND SATAN ARE ACQUIANTANCE AND FAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER. JUST THINK OF IT, SORIANO CAN HAND A PERSON TO SATAN. AND SATAN ACCEPTED. HA, HA, HA... THEY HAVE COMMONALITY.
Soriano is a fraud. Bible scholar and expert KUNO. Ha, ha, ha... HIS ERRORS AND MISTAKES ARE ALREADY DOCUMENTED AND WELL ESTABLISHED. The guy is even ignorant of the original Hebrew and Greek on which the original Bible texts were written. He cannot even speak fluently Aramaic, the language of Jesus. How can he be a Bible scholar without being expert in the Biblical languages. Soriano is a false prophet.
HOW ABOUT DANIEL RAZON, IS HE A BIBLE SCHOLAR TOO? Let me see if your KUYA is a firs rate Bible scholar. Why don't you ask him to face Willy Santiago and let us see if he has any iota of scholarship. He, he, he...
There is no bias. They are already published. I was away for a week because I have speaking engagements in Baguio City. But now that I have time to open the internet again the comments are being posted one by one.
ReplyDeleteTHE ONLY COMMENTS NOT POSTED ARE THOSE WITH CURSES AND ARE DIRECTED AGAINST OUR PERSONS AND NOT ARGUMENTS ON DOCTRINAL ISSUES.
hi po ako ulit po eto marami po nman akong ebidensya na hindi po ang relihiyon nyo na katoliko ang original at ang sumunod kamo kay Apostol Pedro eto po ang patunay ko.. sana po e post nyo rin etong comment ko. kasi history po mismo ang nagsasabi at hindi po kami
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
kaya sana po bago kayo mag akusa e tignan nyo muna ang pinagmulan ng relihiyon nyo
RESPONSE TO DGOY 20
ReplyDelete[hi po ako ulit po eto marami po nman akong ebidensya na hindi po ang relihiyon nyo na katoliko ang original at ang sumunod kamo kay Apostol Pedro eto po ang patunay ko..]
HINDI NAMAN EVIDENCIA ANG IYONG BINIBIGAY. THE RULE OF EVIDENCE IS THAT THE ONE ARGUING MUST PRESENT A RELIABLE DOCUMENT TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIM.
IF YOU ARE TALKING OF HISTORY. PRESENT BOOKS WRITTEN BY HISTORIANS. PRESENT SCHOLARLY DOCUMENTS FROM ENCYCLOPEDIAS NOT YOU TUBES AND ARTICLES WRITTEN BY UNKNOWN. HA, HA, HA...
[sana po e post nyo rin etong comment ko.]
I'M POSTING. BECAUSE IT DOCUMENTS FOR US HOW IGNORANT AND STUPID YOU ARE IN HISTORY JUST LIKE YOUR COMPANIONS WHO TRIED TO ARGUE WITH US ABOUT CONSTITUTION.
[kasi history po mismo ang nagsasabi at hindi po kami]
HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE NOT PRESENTING HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS. THOSE ARTICLES AND VIDEOS ARE PIECES OF JUNK. NO HISTORICAL VALUE AT ALL. HA, HA, HA...
[http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html]
HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS BA YAN? THAT IS A WEBSITE RUN BY UNKNOWN PEOPLE. ARE THEY PROFESSORS OF HISTORY? DO THEY HAVE DOCTORATE IN HISTORY? ARE THEY AUTHORS OF BOOKS ON HISTORY? C'MMON USE YOUR COMMON SENSE. HA, HA, HA...
[kaya sana po bago kayo mag akusa e tignan nyo muna ang pinagmulan ng relihiyon nyo]
WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF OUR RELIGION. WE HAVE OUR OWN RELIABLE AND SCHOLARLY CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA. IS THERE AN ADD ENCYCLOPEDIA? WALA, KASI WALA KAYONG KAKAYAHAN AT CREDIBILIDAD PARA GUMAWA NITO.
THE BEST HISTORIANS OF CHURCH HISTORY IN THE PHILLIPPINES ARE IN UNIVERSITY OF STO. TOMAS, LA SALLE AND ATENEO DE MANILA. KAHIT SA KUKO WALA KAYONG BINATBAT.
Pasopog ka padi sa mga bikolnon.. Pano kita irespeto, ang style mo makasopogon. Padi ka pa naman~
ReplyDeleteBAKIT, HINDI MO MATANGGAP NA BOBO AT KULANG SA PINAG-ARALAN ANG MAMA ELI MO? ANONG GUSTO MONG PARI YUNG KAYA NYONG TAWA-TAWANAN? MAGTIGIL KA.
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Thank you. I do not have the luxury of time to join forums and other discussion boards. This Blog is already enough for me. Thank you for your invitation though.
ReplyDeleteMagandang araw po muli Padre. Nakakatawa po yung isang nakadiskusyon ko ngayon hinggil sa mga sagradong imahen. Panay po ang paratang niya na sinasamba daw natin ang mga imahen, pero nang hingan ko po siya ng opisyal na doktrina ng Iglesya na ang imahen ay mga diyos, wala po siyang maipakita. Action speaks luder than talking daw. More power po sa inyong blog at to God be the glory!
ReplyDelete-RCCKnight
Ganyan sila kababaw Bro. RCCKnight. Hindi sila dumedepende sa official doctrine natin. They are relying on feelings and imagination.
ReplyDeleteOfficial Doctrines? and where is that based?
ReplyDeleteCatholic doctrines are unbiblical!
YOU THINK OUR DOCTRINES ARE UNBIBLICAL BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE BIBLE AND IGNORANT OF OUR OFFICIAL DOCTRINE.
ReplyDeleteI admire the way you tackle attacks in your page.
ReplyDeleteHay. kung tutuusing Father wala na dapat discussions pa e..we were the first.we are the only ones who could truly trace our origins.the Bible that they use are teachings po ng early Christian Fathers natin. hindi po ba?
it's saddenning that NEWLY-EMERGED FAITH GROUPS ACT RIGHTEOUS.
OO NGA ISKA, MERON SILANG KAPAL NG MUKA NA MAGKUNWARING TUNAY GAYONG BAGONG IMBENTO LANG ANG RELIHIYON NILA.
ReplyDeleteFather, Always keep the faith & despair not despite that many do not understand, despite that many choose not to see; BUT remember that 1 day
ReplyDelete"EVERY KNEE SHALL BEND", & on that day to the surprise of many, Mary Our Blessed Mother will be by his side, along with his Holy Angels & his Holy Saints. To the Surprise of many Christ will restore the due respect & glory due to his & our mother. To the Surprise of many God's True church will be revealed along with many mysteries! What a great day that day shall be for all us humble, Faithful, Catholic servants. We are attacked and persecuted, we are laughed at & mocked, we are spat at & condemned in the eyes of many men. Sound familiar? The same that happened to Jesus & his followers. No other church is as attacked as the Catholic Church? One must ask why is it that no other church is nearly attacked as much as ours? Because it was said that Satan would enter the true church of God to bring it down & destroy it; We know through scripture that a house can not be decided against it's self, Satan can not be divided nor stand against himself; So IF the Catholic Church was of Satan, it would no be as attacked as it always is, it would not be under the microscope as it always is, it would not be persecuted nor fiercely attacked & condemned as it often is, as always he would come as an angel of light making it seem alluring for many to flock to, yet most no Catholics find nothing alluring in it if anything most want to destroy and see the Catholic church come to an end. Hmmm, Why would Satan want to get rid of something that is supposedly of him? How people fail to see this amazing, But you I father, and many others will await that joyful day when many will be explained, when every eye shall see, when every person shall know, and every knee shall bend.
THANK YOU LADY RAVEN.
ReplyDeleteFather,
ReplyDeleteSalamat po sa inyo, kasi marami akong natutunan dito sa page niyo.
Mabuti nalang an diyan kayo at Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J. ng EWTN, At patuloy na nag i'inform sa mga katoliko. Kailangan ko kasi kayo, maraming nang'aataki na galing sa culto ni mama eli.
Sana po lahat po ng simbahan sa Pilipinas magkaroon ng Apologetics Seminar at magkaroon ng topic na "Why do Catholics." Napansin ko po na maraming misinformed, dahilan kung bakit marami tayong kapatid na uhaw sa pag-ibig ng Diyos naliligaw ng landas at napupunta don kina mama eli.
Sana patuloy po kayong patnubayan ng Diyos.
Maraming Salamat po.
WELCOME BROD. GOD BLESS YOU. PARA DUMAMI ANG CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS BE A CATHOLIC APOLOGIST YOURSELF. LEARN AND STUDY CATHOLIC APOLOGETICS. HE HE HE...
ReplyDeleteFather,
ReplyDeleteSaan po meron Apologetics Seminar?
Pinag'aaralan ko po unti-unti, lahat nang available sa internet.
Sana po malipon na ang kampo ni mama eli. Ipinagadrasal ko po talaga. Sincerely po.
Mga sarado utak. Feeling righteous sila, puro namang pang-aalipusta ang tinuturo sa kanila. Di nga nila alam pano naboo ang bibliya ehh. Di rin nila alam yung naging batayan para maboo ito. Nang nanakaw pa ng libro, eh, Catholic Book di po ba yung bible. Sa atin yan, eh.
Ewan ko po kay mama eli, nagmamarunong. Messenger daw siya. Magtaas ba naman ng sariling banko. Sobra po yung yabang. walang pagmamahal doon sa kanila, puro hatred itinatanim sa mga puso nila.
Lahat sana ng Katoliko ay maging matatag. Dapat po mabuksan ang puso nila. Na walang ibang relihiyon sa mundo ang nag tuturo ng Puro pagmamahal sa Diyos at sa kapwa kundi ang CATHOLIC church lang.
Ni minsan di po satin tinuro mang alipusta ng ibang relihiyon o ibang tao. Bagkus, itinuro sa atin na mahalin at ipagdasal sila.
Puno ng pag-ibig po ang Catholic Church. Yun po ang na pansin ko sa tanang buhay ko. Kasi si Jesus Christ ang nag tatag nito.
Salamat po.