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St. Stephen debating with the Pharisees

christiandefenders Says: December 17, 2009 at 12:09 pm Reply

May I remind the gentleman from Legaspi that this is an English Blog. Your posts will be deleted within 24 hours upon reading this. It has been clear that this Mister Arganiosa is just like any other Catholic Priest who cannot face brother Eli in a debate. Brother Eli has been preaching for over 40 years and no Priest ever dared to debate with him during that specified period. If you want to know my identity, you can meet me inside the ADD Convention Center every Saturday.

Parabanog Says: December 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm Reply

You are not answering my question. Are you afraid of Fr. Abe? How come you are hiding your identity to the good priest? If you want to negotiate for a debate, then by all means introduce yourself. That’s basic etiquette in human relation which is apparently lacking in your kind. You are creating a delusion that the priest is afraid of you when in fact you are the one who is afraid for the simple reason that you are hiding your identity from him so that you can attack him with impunity. How pathetic.

Sa laiko nga lang timbuwang ka na eh. Sa pari pa kaya?

FR. ABE: Bro. Parabanog, please allow me to intrude into this exchange. He, he, he...

I'm glad to know that you consider Bro. Parabanog as a 'gentleman'. He is indeed a man and a true one at that. Unlike Eli Soriano whose gender is in question and is hiding for homosexual rape. How touching.

It is also nice to know that you are aware that your Blog is an English Blog. Ha, ha, ha... I thought you were not aware of that because several of my friends who have visited it and are graduates of U.P., Ateneo and La Salle have mockingly informed me that your English grammar is terrible. It reveals that you are not that properly educated at all. Your mistakes are not typographical errors or simple mistakes due to rush publication but essential grammatical deficiencies.

O don't be delusional. I am not Parabanog. He, he, he... Why do I have to hide my identity when I can fully express myself as Fr. Abe or Fr. Arganiosa. He, he, he... Parabanog is a friend of mine, a very good friend even though we came from different places. He is actually active in the Internet debating with other anti-Catholics but due to the fact that you are hiding your identity so he decided to be hidden as well. Nice for you.

Concerning me being in capable of facing Soriano. Excuse me. He, he, he... It is the other way around. IT IS SORIANO WHO CANNOT FACE ME BECAUSE HE IS HIDING FOR HIS IMMORAL CASE... FOR HIS HEINOUS CRIMES.

Now, about your claim that no priests ever debated Soriano during his 40 years of preaching. Well, our priests are mostly not trained for debates they are trained for pastoral ministries. However, Soriano should have sent official debate challenge to the hierarchy of the Catholic Church so that our official debaters could have faced him. Instead, Soriano faced only the men on the streets and claim victories over these simple Catholics. HE CANNOT SHOW PROOFS OF HAVING DEBATED THE BEST DEBATERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OF THE INC. In short, Eli Soriano is a show off, a CLOSET QUEEN... In boxing parlance, HE IS FLOYD MAYWEATHER: fighting only the 'has beens' and on court he kept on running and running.

WHY DO I HAVE TO ENTER YOUR CONVENTION CENTER TO KNOW YOUR IDENTITY? I DIDN'T DEMAND YOU TO ENTER OUR ST. PETER'S BASILICA IN ROME OR IN THE BASILICA OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE IN JERUSALEM FOR YOU TO KNOW MY REAL NAME AND IDENTITY.

YOU ARE ONLY SHOWING THAT YOU ARE A COWARD LIKE YOUR LEADER. IN FILIPINO: 'Bahag ang Buntot mo', 'Urong ang Itlog'. YOU ARE HIDING WHILE PRETENDING TO BE COURAGEOUS. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

BY THE WAY, MAY I ASK: WHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND THAT THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP OF THE TRUE CHURCH IS BEING CALLED 'CONVENTION CENTER'? HA, HA, HA... YOUR HOUSE OF WORSHIP IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE BUILT BY THE CORRUPT IMELDA MARCOS... PHILIPPINE INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION CENTER. YOURS IS CHURCH OF GOD INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION CENTER. HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE AS CHEAP!

christiandefenders Says: December 17, 2009 at 11:53 pm Reply

The so called “good priest” doesn’t want to negotiate for a debate. He keeps on making improbable conditions on his blog. It just simply proves that he cannot make a good stand on what he says.

If you want to know my identity, convince him to negotiate for a debate on National Television and then we’ll talk. In addition, I am not the one who will debate with him. There is no sense to say that I cannot win over a Priest. I also doubt your identity being a pure Catholic. Most of the things that you have stated does not belong to the Catholic Church. From my analysis, most of them are similar to the way of reasoning of the group of Wilfredo Santiago which is an expelled member of the Church.

Parabanog Says: December 19, 2009 at 4:27 am Reply

How then can the priest negotiate with your kind if you don’t reveal your identity to him? You can’t just deal with someone with an unknown identity. That’s basic common sense. Don’t deal with strangers. If you are really serious for a debate, then introduce yourself to the good priest as Soriano’s feeler and lay your proposition. Unless you do so, you are just bluffing. The priest has already answered your challenge. It’s high time that you reveal your true self. Or perhaps you are really afraid?

FR. ABE: WHO SAYS THAT I DON'T WANT TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE DEBATE. I WANT TO NEGOTIATE. BUT SORIANO AND I MUST BE THE ONE TO TALK IT OVER.

BRO. PARABANOG IS RIGHT. I WILL NOT DEAL WITH ANONYMOUS PEOPLE. I DO NOT EVEN KNOW IF HE IS A BIRD, A PLANE, OR A DOG. HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO ANSWER IF HE IS SORIANO'S WIFE OR LOVER, A BODYGUARD OR A HOUSE SERVANT, THE SPOKESPERSON OR WHAT. HA, HA, HA...

ABNORMAL ANG BLOGGER NA ITO. SINONG SIRA ULO ANG MAKIKIPAG-NEGOTIATE SA HINDI MO KILALA? LOKOHIN N'YO ANG LELANG NYONG PANOT!!!

[In addition, I am not the one who will debate with him. There is no sense to say that I cannot win over a Priest. ]

Because you are afraid, plain and simple. You tried to rattle the priest through your “kuyog” tactic in the comment section of his blog but got surprised when the priest matched your attack fire with fire. You know that you can’t win against the priest. I read your exchanges and you and your buddies got busted big time. ha ha ha

FR. ABE: WAIT A MINUTE. I REMEMBER THAT IN OUR PREVIOUS EXCHANGE YOU ARE TAKING ME TO TASK FOR SAYING THAT 'I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO DEBATE SORIANO BECAUSE I AM NOT THE OFFICIAL DEBATER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.' YOU CONSIDER IT A SIGN OF COWARDICE AND UNWILLINGNESS TO FACE SORIANO. HA, HA, HA... OF COURSE, I FOLLOWED IT UP WITH AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION IF I WILL DEBATE MAMA ELI OR NOT. HA, HA, HA...

AND NOW, YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONE DEBATING AFTER ALL. YOU ARE EXCUSING YOURSELF. YOU ARE NOW WASHING YOUR HAND LIKE PONTIUS PILATE. YOU WANT ME TO FACE YOUR HIDING LEADER WHILE YOU ARE HIDING YOURSELF AND REFUSING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAITH. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

[I also doubt your identity being a pure Catholic. Most of the things that you have stated does not belong to the Catholic Church. From my analysis, most of them are similar to the way of reasoning of the group of Wilfredo Santiago which is an expelled member of the Church.]

Oh really? At one point, you are saying that I am Fr. Abe. Now you are claiming that I’m from Willy’s group. Which is which? Ano ba talaga kuya? You seems confused. It might be the result of the embarrassment that you have suffered from our latest exchanges. Congratulations, your deceit and ignorance of scriptures are broadcasted worldwide through the priest’s blog.

FR. ABE: HA, HA, HA... THIS IS LOW I.Q. DOG. TALAGANG ASKAL. HIS REASONING WILL PUT A MORON IN SHAME.

WE JUST LEARNED THE BREAKAWAY OF WILLY SANTIAGO LATE NOVEMBER 2009. AND IT WAS BRO. BELTRAN, O.P. WHO INFORMED ME ABOUT IT, THEN I RELAYED TO CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS-DAVAO, THEN THEY RELAYED TO CEBU AND I INFORMED DEFENSORES FIDEI FOUNDATION. HE, HE, HE... NOW, THIS LAPDOG IS HAVING HALLUCINATIONS THAT PARABANOG, WHO LEARNED WILLY'S MOVE FROM ME, IS NOT A PURE CATHOLIC BUT OF WILLY'S GROUP. HA, HA, HA...

I HAVE COLLECTIONS OF SHERLOCK HOLMES AND AGATHA CHRISTIE'S MYSTERY NOVELS. I CAN LEND THEM TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO SHARPEN YOUR REASONING SKILLS.

christiandefenders Says: December 19, 2009 at 1:36 pm Reply

Now your writing style reverted back to the writing style of the Priest. Yes, I believe that you are the lame Priest with the support of Wilfredo Santiago’s Group. I will write a separate article to prove that. If you want to know my identity, that’s easy. Are you ready to debate with Bro. Eli on television with the facilitites of UNTV 37 and your own Catholic Television Program which is now possible? Or rather you will resort to improbable conditions to avoid it?

I did not suffer any embarrassement with all decency that I have from all our exchanges. Rather, all the excessive sarcasm and appeal to mockery that you’ve used just back-fired at you. It just gave us a glimpse of what the Catholic Church really is beneath the cloak of pretense and hypocrisy.

Parabanog Says: December 19, 2009 at 3:36 pm Reply

[Now your writing style reverted back to the writing style of the Priest. Yes, I believe that you are the lame Priest with the support of Wilfredo Santiago’s Group. I will write a separate article to prove that. If you want to know my identity, that’s easy. Are you ready to debate with Bro. Eli on television with the facilitites of UNTV 37 and your own Catholic Television Program which is now possible? Or rather you will resort to improbable conditions to avoid it?]

I think you have a pathetic talent of analyzing writing styles so stop pretending that you are an expert because you are not. You are indeed flattering me by saying that my style is the same as the priest. Guess again. he he he

FR. ABE: NOW, HE IS TRYING TO PRESENT HIMSELF AS AN EXPERT IN ANALYZING WRITING STYLES. HA, HA, HA... HOW PATHETIC INDEED.

HOW CAN FR. ABE BE WITH WILLY SANTIAGO WHEN FR. ABE IS A CATHOLIC SINCE CHILDHOOD? HE IS A KNOWN CATHOLIC APOLOGIST AND IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CLERGY. HA, HA, HA...

THE IDIOT CANNOT EVEN DISCERN THE FACT THAT AS CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS OF COURSE WE ARE READING THE ACCUSATIONS AND COUNTER ACCUSATIONS BETWEEN WILLY SANTIAGO AND ELI SORIANO. AND OF COURSE, SINCE WILLY IS REVEALING A LOT OF 'JUNKS' OF HIS MAMA ELI IT IS BUT NATURAL FOR US TO USE THEM AGAINST THE ADD AND ELI SORIANO.

ISN'T THAT TECHNIQUE EXACTLY WHAT MAMA ELI DID WITH ERANO MANALO? HE USED THE SPEECH OF MANALO REPRIMANDING THE INC MINISTERS AND AIRED IT IN HIS TV PROGRAM. WE ARE SIMPLY LEARNING FROM MAMA ELI'S STYLES. NOW, HE MUST EXPECT THAT THE SAME FAVOR SHALL BE DONE BY HIS OPPONENTS AGAINST HIM. HA, HA, HA... KAYA NAMAN ITONG KANYANG MGA ASO AY NAMIMILIPIT SA KAHIHIYAN UPANG DEPENSAHAN SIYA.

[I did not suffer any embarrassment with all decency that I have from all our exchanges. Rather, all the excessive sarcasm and appeal to mockery that you’ve used just back-fired at you. It just gave us a glimpse of what the Catholic Church really is beneath the cloak of pretense and hypocrisy.]

Yes you are. You got exposed that’s why you deleted our exchanges, otherwise why delete it? I think the days when you guys attack the catholic faith with impunity are over. It seems that the best way to hammer reason among your kind is to use your own brand of language. And based on my experience, it is effective.

FR. ABE: I AGREE. WE HAVE LEARNED THE ART OF WAR. WHEN WE WERE ANSWERING PEACEFULLY AND CHARITABLY TO THE ATTACKS OF THESE DOGS THEY WERE SIMPLY LAUGHING AT US. NOW, WE HAVE LEARNED YOUR STYLE AND YOUR TECHNIQUES. AND WE ARE READY TO BATTLE IT OUT WITH YOU IN A LANGUAGE AND MODE OF YOUR OWN PREFERENCE.

christiandefenders Says: December 20, 2009 at 8:35 am Reply

You did not even answer the challenge thrown to you. “Are you ready to debate with Bro. Eli on television with the facilitites of UNTV 37 and your own Catholic Television Program which is now possible? Or rather you will resort to improbable conditions to avoid it?”

Do you think that your Fallacy, Appeal to Mockery is effective? Indeed it is effective to show to the world what Catholic Priests really are beneath those white skirts lies a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Parabanog Says: December 20, 2009 at 9:58 am Reply

Our priest has already answered your bluff. Now have the decency to show your true identity so real talk about the debate can begin. Or maybe you are cowering in fear because you know first hand what you are up against? Our priest ain’t afraid of your fugitive preacher. Fr. Abe is not hiding his identity when he defended the catholic faith. While you and your kind makes every effort imaginable to hide your identity while attacking our faith. That’s is treachery and utter cowardice. If you are man enough show yourself. Gusto mo two on two pa, ikaw at puno mo at kaming dalawa ni Fr. Abe. Ilitaw mo puno mo. Eyeball to eyeball debate.

FR. ABE: YES NA YES!!! OO!!! I ACCEPT. I AM VERY MUCH WILLING TO FACE ELI SORIANO ON NATIONAL TV. BUT IT MUST BE IN EITHER CHANNEL 2 OR 7. NOT IN YOUR OWN DOMINATED TV.

IT MUST BE DONE IN A NON PARTIAL, NON RELIGIOUSLY OWNED STATION. FOR IMPARTIALITY AND EQUAL TREATMENT.

THEN, ELI SORIANO MUST COME IN PERSON TO NEGOTIATE AND DEBATE WITH ME. NO MORE NO LESS. I DO NOT ACCEPT LAPDOGS LIKE YOU.

CONCERNING 'WHITE SKIRTS', YOU MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT IT IS YOUR LEADER WHO IS A CLOSET QUEEN. WE PRIESTS ARE NOT MARRIED BECAUSE OF PROMISE OF CELIBACY. HOW ABOUT MAMA ELI? TUMATANDA NA E HINDI NAG-AASAWA. BAKIT, IS HE LOOKING FOR A MALE PARTNER? IS HE WAITING THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGE BE LEGALIZED IN THE PHILIPPINES?

HE WILL WAIT IN VAIN BECAUSE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL OPPOSE ITS LEGALIZATION AS SHE IS DOING AGAINST THE RH BILL. KAYA NAMAN HINDI MAKATIIS, NANG RAPE NA.

christiandefenders Says: December 20, 2009 at 10:11 am Reply

You did not accept the challenge thrown at you Mister Abraham Arganiosa. Instead,you give improbable conditions in order to evade from the challenge of a debate on National Television. Now you continue to insists on finding out our identity but you fail to give a decent answer to our challenge. Open your communication lines on your television show and Bro. Eli Soriano will debate with you. That will be broad casted on UNTV 37 as well. That is our proposal which you cannot accept because of your fear to suffer the same fate as your Comrades.

Parabanog Says: December 20, 2009 at 11:29 am

Have you read the good priest’s blog? Fr. Abe has already accepted your challenge. Now have the decency to show your true identity and present your fugitive leader. Stop creating illusion that we catholics are afraid of your kind because we are not. On the contrary you are the one who is afraid based on your actuations. Why is it that you don’t want to show your real identity? What you are doing is really ridiculous and cheap trying to arrange a debate while withholding your identity. Anong malay namin kung sino kang Judas o Judesa na mahilig mang-gudtime? Do you have authorization to speak on behalf of your fugitive leader? How can we know since up to now you are so secretive of your identity? That’s why serious talk about the debate starts when you manned up and formally introduce your self to the priest. Until you do so, all your talk about the debate are just crap. Bulok na yang istilo mo.

Show yourself and present your fugitive preacher. Debate should be face to face, eyeball to eyeball. Your challenge about debate in the internet is just all crap. A pathetic excuse not to face our catholic faith defenders.

3 Jn 1:13-14 (Ang Biblia)

13 Maraming mga bagay ang isusulat ko sana sa iyo, datapuwa’t hindi ko ibig isulat sa iyo ng tinta at panulat: 14 Datapuwa’t inaasahan kong makita kang madali, at tayo’y magkakausap ng mukhaan.

FR. ABE: SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU. I AM NOT PARABANOG AND PARABANOG IS NOT FR. ABE.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO USE ANOTHER IDENTITY TO EXPRESS MYSELF. AND IT IS NEVER MY INTENTION TO HIDE MY IDENTITY. IT'S NOT MY STYLE. I'M PERSONALLY NOT FOND OF USING ALIASES.

I AM VERY GLAD THAT BRO. PARABANOG HAS EFFECTIVELY DEMOLISHED YOUR CLAIMS. THE MORE YOU WRITE IN RESPONSE THE MORE YOUR CREDIBILITY IS CRUMBLING ONE BY ONE. THAT IS WHY YOUR COMPANIONS HAVE ABANDONED YOU. THEY ARE ASHAMED OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOUR EXCHANGES. LALONG NADIDIIN ANG INYONG LEADER AT ANG INYONG SAMAHAN.

[The Lord Jesus Christ told the Christians not to Fear those who can kill the body but fear the one who can destroy both the body and soul in hell.Douay-Rheims Bible

(Matthew 10:28)

And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell.

A Christian preacher does not fear those people who can kill and destroy his body which is the reason why he continues to preach despite of all the persecutions and trial he faces. This is exactly the same thing that the Apostle Paul experienced during the time of the First Century Christian Church.]

If your fugitive preacher is not afraid then why he is in hiding? Why is it that he refused to face his accusers? The verse doesn’t suit your leader because he is a guilty coward who tries to evade justice. Our priests fulfill the verse. Our priests and missionaries are the ones being killed, tortured, and kidnapped in war torn and pagan-atheist dominated areas. Not ADD ministers. Takot lang ninyo.

FR. ABE: RIGHT THERE YOU ARE BRO. PARABANOG. HOW MANY NUNS AND PRIESTS HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED BY ABU SAYAFF? SO MANY ALREADY. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO PREACH EVEN IN AREAS DOMINATED BY THE BANDITS. SOME OF THEM WERE EVEN TORTURED. YET YEAR AFTER YEAR A CONTINUOUS FLOW OF CATHOLC MISSIONARIES ARE GOING TO MINDANAO TO PREACH THE GOSPEL EVEN IN MUSLIM DOMINATED AREAS.

SI SORIANO HINDI KAYA YON. KASI DUWAG.

[Bro. Eli was always successful on refuting the claims of these claiming to be God-sent preachers which is the reason why other preachers are now avoiding to engage with him in a debate. This is the same scenario that is now happening to the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa. After writing an article on his blog, the members of the Church of God ask him if he will agree to engage in a debate with Bro. Eli Soriano.]

Then why not present your leader? As far as I know, it is your leader that is in hiding. He is a fugitive from justice. So who is avoiding who? You know the identity of the good priest while yours is in secret. Perhaps that’s the reason why you have the guts to attack him because you know that whatever happens, if worst may come to worst, even if you got busted hundred times, you can still get away and can’t be held accountable. Well, that is cowardice to the nth degree to me.

When will you become man enough to deal with the priest on equal terms? Fat chance, I guess because you are a coward just like your fugitive preacher. Indeed, you know will know them by their fruits. (cf. Mt 7:20) lolz

FR. ABE: WELL, I AGREE WITH THE CHALLENGE TO DEBATE ELI SORIANO. NOW, BRING HIM OUT TO START THE NEGOTIATION FOR A FACE TO FACE, ONE ON ONE DEBATE.

[I noticed that one commenter has a similar way of writing like him. We can notice that Mr. Arganiosa loves to use braces in order to quote from another person just like this example.

Similarly, a commenter named Parabanog also has the same style of writing.

In addition, checking the IP Address of Parabanog gives us a clue that he is in the same area where Mr. Arganiosa is.

He is in Legaspi using Smart Bro as his Internet Service Provider base on his IP Address. According to Mr. Argionsa, he is in Sorsogan which is very much near Legaspi. Both places are located in the Bicol Region. This gives me an idea that this Parabanog is also Mr. Arganiosa.]

It seems like someone is reading too much cheap detective novels in here. At any rate, I find your deductive reasoning as amateurish at best. Your conclusion seems constipated and premeditated by bias and plain stupidity. Try harder, adddefender. You’ve missed my location by miles. He he he

What makes you think that if one person is in Legazpi while the other is in Sorsogon, then they are actually one person? That if one is using brackets in quoting others, and someone is doing the same, then they are surely one person? You see, your deductions are trashy and cheap. Guess again, adddefender.

FR. ABE: BOBO TALAGA. I DON'T HAVE SMART BRO. BESIDES, IF IM USING SMART BRO. E MERONG SMART CENTER DITO SA SORSOGON. PUPUNTA PA BA AKO NG LEGAZPI PARA LANG SA SMART SERVICE. HE, HE, HE...

LANDLINE ANG GAMIT KO. THE INTERNET SERVICES IN OUR OFFICES ARE CENTRALIZED BY A POWERFUL WI-FI SYSTEM. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW. HA, HA,HA...

[He even used Job 4:8 to sustain his stand. It flashed immediately to my mind that this verse was used on one of our Church’s Thanksgiving topics during the time when Wilfredo Santiago was still inside the Church. Just like the flow of our Thanksgiving topic, he also used Gal. 6:7-8 to sustain his claim that the words of Eliphaz was right. However, the verse in Job 4:8 as it was enlightened before the Church of God are not really the words of Eliphaz. We can prove that on a separate article which may be written in Tagalog. It then came to my mind that this Catholic Priest, now uses the arguments feed by Wilfredo Santiago’s Group.]

Does the use of Job 4:8 and Ga 6:7-8 to prove that not all that what Eliphaz had said were erroneous, a patented reasoning of Willy? Who told you? Don’t show your ignorance. Catholic apologetics is much more than what you think it is.

What God had said in Job 42:7 is clear: only those stated by Eliphaz pertaining to God that is erroneous. The verse doesn’t state that ALL OF ELIPHAZ’S STATEMENTS ARE WRONG.

Job 42:7 (Ang Biblia)

At nangyari, na pagkatapos na masalita ng Panginoon ang mga salitang ito kay Job, sinabi ng Panginoon kay Eliphaz na Temanita, Ang aking poot ay nagaalab laban sa iyo, at laban sa iyong dalawang kaibigan: SAPAGKAT HINDI KAYO NANGAGSALITA TUNGKOL SA AKIN NG BAGAY NA MATUWID, na gaya ng ginawa ng aking lingkod na si Job.

SAPAGKAT HINDI KAYO NANGAGSALITA TUNGKOL SA AKIN NG BAGAY NA MATUWID. Isn’t it clear enough? TUNGKOL SA AKIN. Meron bang LAHAT dyan? That’s why my arguments still stand: ANG DATING DAAN AY NILAKARAN NG MGA MASAMANG TAO.

[In the first place, the Catholic Church never used these arguments in their Catechisms. The Catholic Church did not even teach that it is bad to face the east direction whenever praying. Those arguments just came from Wilfredo Santiago and is not originally Catholic.]

Where in the bible can you find that Christians are supposed to pray to the east kneeling? What verse? If you don’t have a verse and you are doing it, then it is a clear violation of your credo: Wag hihigit sa mga bagay na nasusulat. (cf. 1 Cor 4:6) You fail by your own standard.

There is no rule that all what catholic defenders should say while arguing among your kind, must come from Catechism. In war, one can use any weapon one may deem effective. So what if the argument comes from Willy? Does it prove that your practice of kneeling to the east during worship biblical? You are diverting the issue. Instead of resorting to fallacies, of which you are so fond of, why not you start showing us biblical verses supporting your pagan practice of kneeling facing the east while worshipping?

FR. ABE: TALAGANG BOBO. SO, FOR HIM A CATHOLIC MUST ALWAYS ARGUE FROM CATECHISM. WHO SAYS THAT? GOSH, IN DEBATES YOU CAN USE ANY ARGUMENT OR DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO YOUR CASE. THUS, IF WE USE WILLY'S ARGUMENTS THEN IT IS OUR PREROGATIVE. YOU SHOWED CRACKS UNDER WILLY'S ATTAKCS SO WE WILL ATTACK YOUR WEAK POINTS.

THAT IS WHY THE QUESTION: "WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THE COMMAND THAT THE TRUE BELIEVERS MUST KNEEL FACING THE EAST ALONE?" If you cannot answer that then you are kneeling and worshipping unBiblically. THEN YOUR WORSHIP MUST BE FROM THE DEVIL. That is your standard. We are simply applying to you your own standard. UNTIL NOW YOU CANNOT GIVE A VERSE TO SUPPORT IT. SO, SUMASAMBA KAYO SA DEMONYO!

Hedkandi Says: December 20, 2009 at 12:20 pm Reply

These Catholics never learned their lesson. Bro. Eli Soriano has debated with lots of Catholics and none of them prevailed.

I know what will happen to this Priest.

Parabanog Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. December 20, 2009 at 2:55 pm Reply

Oh really? Then bring out your fugitive preacher from his hiding place. Don’t hide him.

FR. ABE: IT APPEARS AS SUCH BECAUSE SORIANO DEBATED ONLY THE NON-FORMALLY TRAINED CATHOLICS. MGA KANTO BOY LANG ANG HINAHARAP NIYA.

SORIANO INTENTIONALLY AVOIDED THE BEST DEBATES OF OTHER RELIGIONS, FROM RCC, INC, BORN AGAIN AND SDA. LOOK AT HIS DEBATES ALL AGAINST UNKNOWN.