Thursday, December 31, 2009

SPECULUM JUSTITIAE - MARY AS THE MIRROR OF JUSTICE

MADONNA DEL VELO. The Blessed Mother contemplates the face of her Son and pondered everything in her heart. Thus, she was able to live a perfect Christian Life.
*******

Catholic Harley said...

Father tanong po!

marami pong titles si Mama Mary sa Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, maaari nyo po bang ipaliwanag kung pano nagkaroon ng ganung mga titulo si Mama Mary? Kahit hindi nyo na po isama yung mga obvious tulad ng Mother of Christ to Virgin Most faithful etc. Gusto ko lang po malaman yung mula Mirror of Justice to Morning Star, ang naiintindihan ko lang po kasi dun eh kung bakit naging Ark of the covenant si Mama Mary...

Sana po ako po ay inyong mapagbigyan

God bless and Happy New Year!

*******

The Sacred Scriptures extol the Lord Jesus as the King of Justice or the King of Righteousness. From Eternity this Truth has been proclaimed by God the Father, echoed by the Psalmist under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit:

Hebrews 1:8 (New International Version) But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,

and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.

This is taken from the Psalm of David:

Psalm 45:6
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. "

And the Prophets spoke of the Messiah in the same manner:

Isaiah 9:7 "
Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this."

The Justice of God and His righteousness have been manifested perfectly by the Lord Jesus here on earth during His Incarnation. He was seen as so full of Love, of Patience, of Understanding, of Forgiveness.

Now, the Blessed Virgin Mary is called The Mirror of Justice because after the Lord Jesus it is Mary who reflects the Holiness and Purity and Righteousness of Christ. As stated by the Catholic Encyclopedia:

"Christian ascetics must not overlook the Blessed Mother of God; for she is, after Christ, our most sublime ideal. No one has received grace in such fulness, no one has co-operated with grace so faithfully as she. It is for this reason that the Church praises her as the Mirror of Justice (speculum justitioe). The mere thought of her transcendent purity suffices to repel the alluring charms of sin and to inspire pleasure in the wonderful lustre of virtue."

[Catholic Encyclopedia on Ascetical Theology, http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14613a.htm]

The Catholic Church as shown in that short explanation from the Catholic Encyclopdia sees Mary as the ideal of Christian Perfection because she is faithfully living her Faith on Jesus. The one who is not faithful in imitating the virtues of another is called a pale comparison but the one who is almost exactly like the one he or she is imitating is called a Mirror. Mary is a Mirror of Christ’s Justice because:

1. She is pure. Virgin in body [Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23] and in soul [cf. Luke 1:34 “She knows not a man” which means she is innocent not only in body but also in mind and heart.]

2. She is full of grace [Lk 1:28]. The one who is filled with God’s grace is a very holy person... a saint. She is holy and saintly woman. Only God is Holy but people who are God-like in their way of living are called ‘holy’ such as holy prophets and saints. Mary is holy because of God’s grace. She lived a virtuous life with undiminished moral integrity.

3. She reflects in her life the Justice, Righteousness or the Love of God. As in the case of the Wedding at Cana [cf. John 2].

Jesus knew that there were no wine anymore but He decided not to act at once. Mary immediately saw the need of others and she interceded for them to the Lord. She has a loving heart, a heart MEEK AND HUMBLE like Jesus, A heart full of pity for the poor and the needy.

She also manifested the same virtue when she went immediately to Judea in order to help her pregnant cousin Elizabeth. She was also pregnant with Jesus but she was thinking not only of her own comfort but also of the needs of others. Like Jesus she is Hospitable, Kind and so Loving.

THAT IS WHY THE CHURCH REFERS TO HER AS ‘THE MIRROR OF JUSTICE’!

St. Paul beautifully explains: "at present we see indistinctly as in a mirror, but then face to face" (1 Corinthians 13:12). Let us bear in mind that Mary lived with Jesus FACE TO FACE for 30 long years. And for 9 months they lived flesh to flesh and blood to blood while the Baby Jesus was inside her womb.

Mary can exclaim of Jesus and the Lord of His Mother: HE IS FLESH OF MY FLESH AND BONES OF MY BONES – SHE IS FLESH OF MY FLESH AND BONES OF MY BONES.

The Mother and the Son are so like each other. The Mother REFLECTS the Holiness and Purity of her Son. She is NOT equal with her Son but she reflects Him as in a Mirror.

ANG HULING SUGO!

The Calling of Sts. Peter and Andrew by Caravaggio
Anonymous(Catholic) said...

Fr. ABe,

May itatanong po ako, sa mga inc kasi sabi nila huling sugo daw si felix Manalo, meron po ba tayong talata sa bibliya na may isusugo pa ang Diyos pagkatapos ni Kristo? o may huling sugo po ba? nghihintay po ako sa sagot nila pero gusto ko rin po malaman ang sagot ninyo.. Maraming salamat..

GodBless...

December 31, 2009 12:25 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

Dear Anonymous Catholic,

Ayon sa Biblia at ayon sa ating pananampalataya ang huling sugo ay ang ating Panginoong Jesucristo [cf. Hebrews 1:1-3]. DAhil siya ang Anak ng Dios at wala ng makapapantay pa sa kanya. Siya na ang Daan, ang Katotohanan at Buhay.

Ang kapuspusan ng panahon o 'Fullness of Time' ay naganap nuong isinilang si Cristo [Galatians 4:4], hindi noong panahon ni Felix Manalo.

Subalit bago umakyat sa langit ang Panginoong Jesus iniwan nya sa atin ang Santa Iglesia upang maging haligi at suhay ng Katotohanan [1 Timothy 3:15]. Kaya ang tagapagturo ng Katotohanan ng Pananampalataya at Moralidad ngayon sa Ngalan ni Jesus ay ang Santa Iglesia. Yung tunay na tatag sa Jerusalem hindi yung tatag ni Manalo sa Punta, Sta. Ana.

Gayon din naman, pumili si Jesus ng mga Apostoles na siyang sinugo niya para mangaral ng kanyang Salita [John 20:21]. At ang mga Apostoles ay pumili ng mga susunod na leaders ng Sta. Iglesia tulad nila Barnabas, Timoteo at Tito, Mark at Lucas at iba pa. Pumili sila ng mga magiging susunod na leaders at tagapamahala ng Iglesia na tinawag nilang Episcopoi [Bishops], Presbyteroi [Priests or Presbyters] and Diaconoi [Deacons].

Kaya ang tunay na aral at ang tunay na mga lider ng Panampalataya ay nasa Sta. Iglesia at hindi kay Felix Manalo na nagtatag lamang ng sariling religion.

December 31, 2009 2:01 PM

Monday, December 28, 2009

IS THE RULE ON FASTING AND ABSTINENCE TO BE OBSERVED STILL WHEN CHRISTMAS FALLS ON FRIDAY?

The Nativity of Christ by Vladimir Borovikovsky, 19th century
manny said...

Dear Father:

Could you explain to us the teaching on Friday Abstinence? Im bothered because last Friday was Christmas day and we are in the midst of feasting. Are we aupposed to abstain from meat on Fridays even if a big Solemnity like Christmas, Immaculate Conception, etc., or even Birthdays, Anniversaries, Weddings, and other joyous occasions are bieng celebrated on that day? Please clarify. Thanks.

December 28, 2009 10:43 AM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

Dear Bro. Manny,

The Church teaching on Fasting and Abstinence is a Biblically founded since the prophets and even the Lord Jesus Himself fasted.

Usually it is done as a sign of repentance and conversion and also as a sign of purification from sin. Jesus did it as a means to unite Himself with the Spirit by taming the weaknesses of the flesh and by doing so he defeated Satan's Temptations on the Mount after fasting of 40 days and 40 nights.

From the earliest memory of the Church Friday is designated as a day of fasting and abstinence because it is the day the Lord Jesus suffered and died for our salvation. Thus, it is fitting that Christians reflect on the suffering of their Divine Master through self-renunciation.

However, as early as the 12th-13th century Pope Innocent III already declared that the rule on Fasting and Abstinence is to be waved when Christmas falls on Friday. This is the statement of the Catholic Encyclopedia:

Days of abstinence

Friday

From the dawn of Christianity, Friday has been signalized as an abstinence day, in order to do homage to the memory of Christ suffering and dying on that day of the week. The "Teaching of the Apostles" (viii), Clement of Alexandria (Stromata VI.75), and Tertullian (On Fasting 14) make explicit mention of this practice. Pope Nicholas I (858-867) declares that abstinence from flesh meat is enjoined on Fridays. There is every reason to conjecture that Innocent III (1198-1216) had the existence of this law in mind when he said that THIS OBLIGATION IS SUPPRESSED AS OFTEN AS CHRISTMAS DAY FALLS ON FRIDAY (De observ. jejunii, ult. cap. Ap. Layman, Theologia Moralis, I, iv, tract. viii, ii). Moreover, the way in which the custom of abstaining on Saturday originated in the Roman Church is a striking evidence of the early institution of Friday as an abstinence day.

December 28, 2009 8:30 PM

Sunday, December 27, 2009

ANO ANG MAS MAKAPANGYARIHAN, ANG SANTA IGLESIA O ANG GOVIERNO?

The late Pres. Corazon C. Aquino and His Eminence Jaime Cardinal Sin. Both champions of Peace and Freedom. They embodied the openness and mutual cooperation between the Head of the Government and the Spiritual Leader of the Philippine Church.
Anonymous said...

Dear Father,

Maraming salamat sa napakahalagang impormasyon na binigay mo sa akin.Ang isyo kasing ito ang lagi naming pinag-usapan sa mga kasamahan ko sa trabaho.Bago kami matulog magkaroon kami usapan tungkol po sa simbahang Romano Katoliko.

Ngunit alam kung limitado ang aking kaalaman tungkol sa napakaraming isyo ng ating simbahan na laging sinira ng mga tao na biglaang umalis ng simbahang Romano Katoliko.Marami kasi akong kasamahan sa trabaho na Iglisi ni Kristo ang iba ay baptis mayroon ding Asembly Of God.

Alam nating lahat na ang mga grupong ito ay talagang tutol ng ating doktrina...

Piro Father maitanong ko lang po ,gaano ba katotoo na mas makapangyarihan daw ang simbahang Romano Katoliko kay sa Pamahalaan?

Maraming salamat Father Abe...Gao bless us all...

December 27, 2009 1:18 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Piro Father maitanong ko lang po ,gaano ba katotoo na mas makapangyarihan daw ang simbahang Romano Katoliko kay sa Pamahalaan?]

Ang kapangyarihan ng Iglesia Catolica ay kapangyahrihang spiritwal at moral. Spiritually, mas makapangyarihan ito kaysa Pamahalaan dahil ito ay nakapag papatawad ng Kasalanan sa Ngalan ng Ama, at ng Anak at ng Espiritu Santo.

Ang Santa Iglesia ay mas makapangyarihan Sacramentally kaysa sa Pamahalaan kasi may kakayahan itong magbigay ng mga Sacramento ni Cristo tulad ng Binyag, Kumpil, Kumpisal, Banal na Misa at iba pa.

Ang Santa Iglesia ay mas makapangyarihan kaysa Pamahalaan Doctrinally kasi sa kanya ipinagkatiwala ni Cristo ang pagtuturo ng Katotohanan hinggil sa Pananampalataya at Kaligtasan. Ang Santa Iglesia ang Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan [1 Timoteo 3:16].

Sa administrasyon ng Iglesia Catolica ang Govierno ay walang autoridad dahil ito ay isang samahan na may sariling organisasyon, pamunuan at mga alituntunin. Kaya sa loob ng Santa Iglesia ang nasusunod ay ang Santo Papa, mga Obisp at Pari na siyang mga Pastol ng Pananampalatayang Katoliko bilang kinatawan ni Cristo. Independiente ang Santa Iglesia sa Govierno at ang Govierno ay independiente sa Santa Iglesia. Ito ang tinatawag na: "Separation of Church and State" na isang proviso ng ating Saligang Batas.

Subalit sa Lakas ng Militar, sa Pananalapi at sa Administrasyong Civil mas makapangyarihan ang Pamahalaan.

Kasi hawak ng Presidente ang mga Militar at Pulis. Ang Presidente at mga government officials ang makapag-uutos sa kanila. Hindi sila pwedeng utusan ng Santa Iglesia.

Ang Budget ng buong bansa ay pinag-papasyahan ng Congreso na siyang Lehislatura ng Pamahalaan. Hindi ito pwedeng pakialaman ng Santa Iglesia.

Ang Hustisya ng Pilipinas ay pinamamahalaan ng Korte Suprema na pinipili ng PResidente ng Pilipinas ang mga miembro. Mga Hukom o Judges ang humuhusga sa bawat kaso na inihahain sa korte. At walang kapangyarihan dito ang Santa Iglesia.

Pwedeng ipakulong ng Gobyerno ang mga pari, madre at mga Obispo kagaya ng ginawa sa China, sa Vietnam at sa Soviet Union pero ang Santa Iglesia ay hindi pwedeng gawin iyon sa Gobierno. Maaari din nilang ipasara ang mga Simbahan kung gusto nila.

Nuong Martial Law ni Marcos, maraming pari at madre ang pinatay, na torture at dinukot. At walang nagawa ang Santa Iglesia.

Subalit ang Santa Iglesia ay may moral and spiritual power na kumbinsihin ang mga mamamayan kung bulok na ang Gobierno at Imoral na ang Pamumuno ng mga leaders tulad noong pahanon ni Marcos at ni Erap. Kaya nag-alsa ang taong bayan at napabagsak si Marcos noong EDSA 1 at si Erap noong EDSA 2.

Noong EDSA 3 pinangunahan ng mga Iglesia ni Cristo ang rally laban sa pamahalaang Arroyo subalit hindi ito nagtagumpay dahil kulang ang kanilang Moral at Spiritual Authority over the government. Subalit may mga INC na nagsasabi na hindi sila ang nanguna sa nasabing pag-aaklas.

December 27, 2009 8:16 PM

Saturday, December 26, 2009

KATANUNGAN TUNGKOL SA PANANALAPI NG VATICAN

The interior of the world renown VATICAN MUSEUM... Meron ba ang mga Manolista nyan? Ha, ha, ha... Mamatay sila sa inggit!
*********
Anonymous said...

Dear Father Abe,

Alam nating lahat na ang ating simbahang Romano Katoliko ay laging sinira ng mga non- catholic denomenation.

Ngunit maitanong ko lang po,totoo po ba na ating STO PAPA ang nagdala ng 666?Tooto din ba na ayon sa latest research ngayon na ang UNITED STATE OF AMERICA ay may malaking utang doon sa BATIKAN at anf BATIKAN daw ngayon ang pinakamayaman na bansa buong daigdig?Dahil hawak raw ng BATIKAN ang EURO MONEY.AT ito pa Ang STO PAPA daw natin ang pinakamayaman na tao sa buong daidig?

Good evening FATHER...

December 26, 2009 8:34 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

Dear Anonymous,

Ang Santo Papa ay never na nagdala ng 666. Ang kasinungalingang iyan ay inimbento ng mga Seventh Day Adventists at ginaya ng mga Iglesia ni Manalo. Subalit ang totoo si ELLEN GOULD WHITE na founder ng SDA at SI FELIX YSAGUN MANALO na founder ng Iglesia ni Cristo ang tunay na nagtataglay ng 666 NAME.

Paki tignan ang aking mga debate at pakikipagtalastasan at mga paliwanag hinggil sa isyu ng 666 sa mga tppics ng Blog na ito sa gawing kanan. Marami kang matututunan duon.

Ang United States of America ay napakayamang bansa at ito ang pinaka makapangyarihan sa buong mundo. Isa itong Super Power na bansa. At ang Vatican ay isa sa pinaka-maliit na bansa sa buong mundo. Kaya imposible na sa Vatican mangungutang ang U.S. Sa halip ang U.S. ay nangungutang sa IMF-World Bank. Halos lahat ng bansa pati Pilipinas ay sa World Bank nangungutang.

Hindi Vatican ang pinaka mayaman na bansa. Dahil napaka liit lamang nito. Wala itong minahan ng ginto at langis at mga mineral na tulad ng ibang bansa. Hindi maaaring mas mayaman ang Vatican kesa sa U.S., Russia, China, Great Britain at iba pa. Kahit sa Monaco at Hongkong ay talo na ang Vatican.

Ang Vatican ay mayaman lamang sa mga international and great works of Arts like the Masterpieces of Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Raphael, etc. Siempre hindi naman pwedeng ipagbili ang mga iyon kaya hindi rin sila pera. Kumikita lang ang Vatican dahil sa tourists at mga nagdo-donate na mula sa iba't-ibang bansa.
Subalit ang Vatican ay hindi tulad ng Iglesia ni Cristo at ng ibang religion na centralized ang pera nila. Lahat napupunta sa Central. Sa atin hindi. Ang pera ng bawat parokya ay nananatili sa mga parokya. Konti lang ang binibigay sa Diocese. At once a year lang nagbibigay sa Roma.
Iba pang pinagkikitaan ng Vatican ay ang mga Pontifical Universities kung saan madami ang nag-aaral na mga seminarista at pari mula sa ibat-ibang bansa. Gayon din ang mga kita sa dumadalaw na scholars sa Vatican Museum at Libraries. Maraming gamit at kasangkapan ang Vatican na mahal ang halaga kasi mga Antiques na ang mga iyon. Subalit hindi pwedeng ipagbili dahil iyon ay dapat gamitin sa pagsamba sa Diyos. Yon ay ibinigay ng ating mga ninuno para gamitin sa pagsamba at pananalangin. Tulad ng Templo ni Solomon na pinaganda ng Panginoon.

Hindi tutuong hawak ng Vatican ang Euro Money kasi hindi naman miembro ng European Union ang Vatican. Papayag ba ang Germany, France at ibang mga bansa sa Europe na hawakan ng Vatican ang pera nila? Nakakatawa naman yan.

Siguramente na hindi ang Santo Papa ang pinaka mayaman sa buong mundo. Kasi alam ng lahat na si Bill Gates ang Richest Man in the world. Sa mga Head of States ang Pinaka mayaman ay ang Sultan of Brunei. Nakalathala sa pahayagang FORBES MAGAZINE ang listahan ng mga pinaka-mayamang tao sa buong mundo at hindi kasama duon ang Santo Papa. Kasi hindi pag-aari ng Papa ang mga Simbahan ng Vatican kundi ng mananampalatayang Catolico. Pag namatay sya hindi nya ito pwedeng ipamana sa kahit kanino nya gusto. Sa halip ito ay pamumunuan ng bagong Santo Papa na hindi nya alam kung sino dahil mapipili lamang ito pag patay na siya.

Ang Santo Papa ay walang pag-aari. Tulad ni Pope John Paul the Great na namatay na isang simpleng tao at walang ari-arian.

December 26, 2009 9:22 PM

Friday, December 25, 2009

DEFENDING CHRISTMAS FROM ACCUSATIONS ON COMMERCIALISM AND ALLEGED PAGAN ORIGIN

The Nativity of the Messiah by Tintoretto
Philipp said...

Dear Abe
Christmas time is here again. And once again we are being bombarded with the so called christmas spirit. Parol, christmas tree, christmas light, caroling, cards, songs, gifts, and most of all the most popular figure of christmas, Santa Claus or Father Christmas. Houses buildings, streets, and most of all the earliest places where they adorned the sorroundings of christmas motiff or decorations are shopping mall. These are not found in Christian countries but even in countries not predominantly christians, like Japan, Hongkong, Singapore and even in countries in the Middle East. Dito sa Pinas, even most poor families are trying to set the table with abundant foods for the traditional noche buena. Pila ang mga tao sa pagbili ng ham kahit minsan daw sa isang taon ay kumain ng hamon. But then if we look closely on the way people are celebrating this holiday, we can see that it is very secular way. More and more is not about Christ, Ang nakikita ko ay rampant commercialism and consumerism. This is the time of the year where shops are expecting huge sales and profit. Ito rin ang time na sagad sa utang sa mga credit cards. May report pa sa mga rich countries na this is the most stressful time of the year, sa bulsa at sa mga numerous preparations. Ask most of the growing children what they know about christmas, you'll be surprised to hear the answer,is Santa Clause, gifts or toys. Hindi yata ito about the celebration of Jesus, and more and more Jesus ay naitatabi ng husto. Sabagay, biblically and spiritually hindi naman talagang birthday ito ng Christ. Isang religous festival na sinimulan ng Church of Rome in the fourth century. base on the history isinanib lang ito at kasabay ng isang pagan festival honoring their pagan god. Kaya tuloy hindi malayo na ang celebration ng Christmas as we know it is a tradition far from Christ himself. So what is really want to make it so clear to all Christians who celebrate this festival and celebration is to celebrate it in spirital way, meaning when this time is coming be glad and receive the true joy in our heart knowing that the love of God manifested in the coming of our Saviour through the birth of Jesus the Christ. I wish you all the happiest TRUE Christmas.

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

ANSWER TO PHILIPP
Dear Philipp,
[Dear Abe,Christmas time is here again. And once again we are being bombarded with the so called christmas spirit. Parol, christmas tree, christmas light, caroling, cards, songs, gifts, and most of all the most popular figure of christmas, Santa Claus or Father Christmas.]
Indeed Christmas time are here again but may I remind you that the things that you have mentioned are not declared or taught by the Catholic Church as 'Christmas spirit'. They are merely material expressions of Christmas that human beings [both Catholics and Protestants] have developed to provide tangible expressions of the Christmas Spirit.
THE REAL SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS IS THE WORSHIP AND ADORATION OF JESUS CHRIST WHO INCARNATED HERE ON EARTH TO GIVE US SALVATION.
[Houses buildings, streets, and most of all the earliest places where they adorned the sorroundings of christmas motiff or decorations are shopping mall.]
Christmas or no Christmas houses and buildings are decorated either it be on birthdays, weddings, social gatherings or even ordinary days. That is why House Interior Decoration is a profession and also ARCHITECTURE. Having decorations is part of human nature, if you don't want any decorations then go to the mountains. But even Tarzan decorated his house on Tree Top and even the prisoners stick posters inside their cells.
[These are not found in Christian countries but even in countries not predominantly christians, like Japan, Hongkong, Singapore and even in countries in the Middle East.]
The celebrations of Christmas of course originated in Catholic countries and it was followed by several mainline Protestant and Evangelical groups.If the non-Christian countries imitated the Christmas decors of the Christian countries then that is their personal choice. Is there something wrong with that? On my part I am grateful that it is not the Satanic Rites that they have imitated but the Christian Festival of the Lord's Nativity. So, what is that to you?

[Dito sa Pinas, even most poor families are trying to set the table with abundant foods for the traditional noche buena.]
Every human person except those who are in fasting are fond of food. Whether rich or poor are fond of having a good meal during their birthdays, weddings, parties and especially during Noche Buena because it is a very Holy Night and at the same time a family reunion. Any problem with that?
However, I suggest that you stop pretending to be a spokesperson of the poor. The poor are also intelligent. Many of them are not succumbing to extravagance during Christmas. Others are simply preparing a simple pancit, sliced bread, some cheese and a large bottle of coke... that's it.When I was still young my mother was only catching one of our bigger chicken in our backyard and made Tinola out of it and there is rice and juice, that's it.Many families or relatives are joining resources together to lessen the expenses.
[Pila ang mga tao sa pagbili ng ham kahit minsan daw sa isang taon ay kumain ng hamon.]
The middle class are the one reasoning that way. And they mostly have jobs, they are educated, professionals and have 13th month pay for Christmas Festivities thanks to the lobbying of the Catholic Church.The poor people are not lining in SM Malls but in Divisoria and in wet markets where they buy things cheaper from their 'Suki'.
[But then if we look closely on the way people are celebrating this holiday, we can see that it is very secular way.]
Eating and drinking as a celebration is not secular but religiuos and Biblical, unless you are unfairly judging these people.Abraham offered a feast for his son Isaac and the Lord Jesus Himself narrated of Feastings and Banquets for several occasions: Weddings, Return of the Prodigal Son, the Finding of Lost Coin, etc.If the Lord approves celebration for the finding of the Lost Coin and the Return of the Prodigal Son how much more for the INCARNATION OF THE SON OF GOD FOR OUR SALVATION.If people want to celebrate it the best way they can so be it. BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT FORCING THEM TO DO SO. ON THE CONTRARY THEY ARE CONSTANTLY REMINDED NOT TO SPEND MORE THAN THEIR BUDGET AND MUST NOT SPEND MORE THAN THE NECESSARY.
There are abuses of course but the abuses must not be attributed to Christmas. Because Christmas or no Christmas there will be abuses. And the Catholic Church is preaching against these abuses.
[More and more is not about Christ, Ang nakikita ko ay rampant commercialism and consumerism.]
Rampant commercialism and consumerism are always there in the market even if we remove Christmas. If there is no Christmas the businessmen will apply it to the pagan celebration that is VALENTINE'S DAY then for the U.S. THE THANKSGIVING DAY or the INDEPENDENCE DAY. Every human celebrations political or religious is subject to consumerism and commercialism.However, be objective in your analysis of the situation. The poor people are only showing bamboo made Parols covered with cheap colored plastics. Their Christmas Tree is usually being used year after year.
Those who are prone to extravagance are also the rich. Such as the Malls, the High Rise Buildings, the large offices, the Department Stores and the Mansions of the Rich are covered by Christmas lights from head to toe not excluding the plants and the trees. Don't tell me that the poor houses of the squater areas are as decorated as the SM Malls or in the same manner as the houses in Corinthian Gardens or Ayala, Alabang?

[This is the time of the year where shops are expecting huge sales and profit.]
That is reasonable.
These are days for family reunions. We are not talking here of few hundreds of families but of millions of families gathering together.Of course they want to eat a special meal together. They want to sip champaigne together or take larger amount of softdrinks together.What is wrong with that?
[Ito rin ang time na sagad sa utang sa mga credit cards.]
The fools who don't know how to budget and to plan things will fall into that. But that is more attributed to human errors and lack of planning rather than in the celebration of Christmas itself. Please bear in mind that STUPIDITY KNOWS NO SEASON!
[May report pa sa mga rich countries na this is the most stressful time of the year, sa bulsa at sa mga numerous preparations.]
In the pagan countries and in some parts of Europe where atheism is taking hold. But in the Philippines, no doubt DECEMBER IS THE MOST JOYFUL MONTH OF THE YEAR. YOU CAN CHECK THE PULSE ASIA AND THE SWS SURVEYS FOR THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR. I ALSO SURVEYED MY STUDENTS WHICH MONTH OF THE YEAR THEY LOVE MOST AND HANDS DOWN DECEMBER IS IT.
I suggest that if you are deppressed during December please don't include us with your seasonal psychological disorder.
During December our children are playing and dancing on the streets and our peole are joyfully singing inside our Churches. Our families are either strolling in parks, visiting godparents and grandparents, watching movies together or going out of town. Mga namatayan lang ang malungkot pag Disyembre.
[Ask most of the growing children what they know about christmas, you'll be surprised to hear the answer,is Santa Clause, gifts or toys.]
NAPAKA BABAW NAMAN NG ISIP NG MGA BATANG TINATANONG MO.JUST THIS MORNING I INQUIRED AMONG CHILDREN INSIDE THE CHURCH WHAT IS THE MEANING OF CHRISTMAS FOR THEM AND THE RESOUNDING ANSWERS: "BIRTHDAY NI PAPA JESUS!" Ha, ha, ha... Most probably you have asked children who have not received Christian education from their parents, priests or pastors.All Christmas Carols proclaim Christmas as the Birth of the Savior-King.

[Hindi yata ito about the celebration of Jesus, and more and more Jesus ay naitatabi ng husto.]
That is a very superficial judgment.
You are reaching that conclusion because you are looking at the superficial matters.During Christmas Season millions of Catholics are also worshipping God through 9 days of Special Worships called Simbang Gabi or Misa de Gallo. Some people are only staying outside because the Churches are full but many are really praying and are diligently adoring Christ inside the Churches.The prisoners, orphanages, houses for the aged, the squatter areas are receiving a lot of gifts from Catholic Charities because millions of people are donating and many of them prefer to remain anonymous. Even if they do not remain anonymous, the rich and the famous are spending more time and efforts for charities during these days.Thus, it is not only buying and selling; it is also GIVING, SHARING AND SPENDIND TIME WITH THE POOR AND THE NEEDY.AND, IT IS ALSO WORSHIPPING GOD THROUGH JOYFUL SERIES OF ADORATION IN THE CHURCHES.THEN, THE MUSIC FILLING THE AIR ARE NOT SECULAR BUT DOMINATED BY RELIGIOUS SONGS HERALDING THE BIRTH OF THE SAVIOR.
[Sabagay, biblically and spiritually hindi naman talagang birthday ito ng Christ.]
IT IS THE BIRTHDAY OF CHRIST. IT IS CHRISTMAS.
At sino ka para sabihing hindi ito ang talagang birthday ni Christ. BAKIT, KELAN BA ANG BIRTHDAY NI CHRIST? If you can give the exact date then we will check its authenticity. IF YOU CANNOT PINPOINT THE EXACT DATE THEN YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TO SAY THAT DEC. 25 IS WRONG. HOW CAN YOU JUDGE IT AS WRONG WHEN YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE TRUE DATE?
[Isang religous festival na sinimulan ng Church of Rome in the fourth century.]
WRONG! THE CELEBRATION STARTED WAY BACK EARLIER. BUT IT CANNOT BE FULLY CELEBRATED THE WAY WE WANTED IT TO BE BECAUSE PRIOR TO THE 4TH CENTURY THE CHURCH WAS UNDER PERSECUTION BY THE PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE. WHEN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DEFEATED THE ROMAN EMPIRE THROUGH CONVERSIONS THEN THE CHURCH OF ROME WAS ABLE TO CELEBRATE IT PUBLICLY. BUT THE CELEBRATION IS INTERNATIONAL, IT WAS ALSO CELEBRATED IN JERUSALEM, BETHLEHEM, NAZARETH, CONSTANTINOPLE, EPHESUS, ALEXANDRIA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD WHERE CHRISTIANITY WAS PRESENT.
[base on the history isinanib lang ito at kasabay ng isang pagan festival honoring their pagan god.]
THIS CLAIM IS INVENTED BY THE ENEMIES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. WE DO NOT CELEBRATE THE PAGAN GOD. AND THE PAGANS NEVER CELEBRATED CHRISTMAS. IT WAS AN EXCLUSIVE FESTIVAL FOR CHRISTIANS.
[Kaya tuloy hindi malayo na ang celebration ng Christmas as we know it is a tradition far from Christ himself.]
BAKIT ANO BA ANG CELEBRATION NG CHRISTMAS DURING THE TIME OF CHRIST HIMSELF? PAG NAGSALITA KA PARANG ALAM MO. E HINDI MO NAMAN ALAM KUNG ANO ANG GINAGAWA NILA DAHIL ANG RELIGION MO AY BAGONG IMBENTO LANG. ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH EXISTED FROM THE TIME OF CHRIST UNTIL NOW.
[So what is really want to make it so clear to all Christians who celebrate this festival and celebration is to celebrate it in spirital way, meaning when this time is coming be glad and receive the true joy in our heart knowing that the love of God manifested in the coming of our Saviour through the birth of Jesus the Christ. I wish you all the happiest TRUE Christmas.]
WHAT IS CELEBRATING IN SPIRITUAL WAY? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?CELEBRATING IT IN SPIRITUAL WAY IN CATHOLIC UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE SHOULD WORSHIP GOD WITH ALL OUR HEART WITH ALL OUR MIND AND WITH ALL OUR STRENGTH.Now, kung kaya naming maghanda then we will do it with our strength. If our minds can compose beautiful songs and conceive beautiful decorations then we will decorate our houses.
WE WILL WORSHIP HIM IN BODY AND IN MIND, IN SPIRIT AND IN MATTER. TOTALLY.I THINK YOUR CONCEPT OF WORSHIPPING IN SPIRIT IS PATHETIC. WHAT IS A CELEBRATION WITHOUT A MEAL, WITHOUT A SONG, WITHOUT A GATHERING AND WITHOUT SHARING TOGETHER.
YOUR REASONING IS ILLOGICAL.
GOD IS A SPIRIT BUT HUMAN PERSONS ARE COMPOSED OF BODY AND SOUL. WORSHIPPING HIM IN SPIRIT MEANS TO WORSHIP HIM WITH OUR ENTIRE BEING... BOTH BODY AND SOUL.

Thursday, December 24, 2009

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ONE AND ALL!

May the blessing of the Lord's Nativity bring Peace and Joy in our hearts, in our family and in our land.
CHRISTUS NATUS EST, ALLELUIA! ALLELUIA!

ADD BLOGGER BECOMING PARANOID

St. Stephen debating with the Pharisees

May I remind the gentleman from Legaspi that this is an English Blog. Your posts will be deleted within 24 hours upon reading this. It has been clear that this Mister Arganiosa is just like any other Catholic Priest who cannot face brother Eli in a debate. Brother Eli has been preaching for over 40 years and no Priest ever dared to debate with him during that specified period. If you want to know my identity, you can meet me inside the ADD Convention Center every Saturday.

You are not answering my question. Are you afraid of Fr. Abe? How come you are hiding your identity to the good priest? If you want to negotiate for a debate, then by all means introduce yourself. That’s basic etiquette in human relation which is apparently lacking in your kind. You are creating a delusion that the priest is afraid of you when in fact you are the one who is afraid for the simple reason that you are hiding your identity from him so that you can attack him with impunity. How pathetic.

Sa laiko nga lang timbuwang ka na eh. Sa pari pa kaya?

FR. ABE: Bro. Parabanog, please allow me to intrude into this exchange. He, he, he...

I'm glad to know that you consider Bro. Parabanog as a 'gentleman'. He is indeed a man and a true one at that. Unlike Eli Soriano whose gender is in question and is hiding for homosexual rape. How touching.

It is also nice to know that you are aware that your Blog is an English Blog. Ha, ha, ha... I thought you were not aware of that because several of my friends who have visited it and are graduates of U.P., Ateneo and La Salle have mockingly informed me that your English grammar is terrible. It reveals that you are not that properly educated at all. Your mistakes are not typographical errors or simple mistakes due to rush publication but essential grammatical deficiencies.

O don't be delusional. I am not Parabanog. He, he, he... Why do I have to hide my identity when I can fully express myself as Fr. Abe or Fr. Arganiosa. He, he, he... Parabanog is a friend of mine, a very good friend even though we came from different places. He is actually active in the Internet debating with other anti-Catholics but due to the fact that you are hiding your identity so he decided to be hidden as well. Nice for you.

Concerning me being in capable of facing Soriano. Excuse me. He, he, he... It is the other way around. IT IS SORIANO WHO CANNOT FACE ME BECAUSE HE IS HIDING FOR HIS IMMORAL CASE... FOR HIS HEINOUS CRIMES.

Now, about your claim that no priests ever debated Soriano during his 40 years of preaching. Well, our priests are mostly not trained for debates they are trained for pastoral ministries. However, Soriano should have sent official debate challenge to the hierarchy of the Catholic Church so that our official debaters could have faced him. Instead, Soriano faced only the men on the streets and claim victories over these simple Catholics. HE CANNOT SHOW PROOFS OF HAVING DEBATED THE BEST DEBATERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OF THE INC. In short, Eli Soriano is a show off, a CLOSET QUEEN... In boxing parlance, HE IS FLOYD MAYWEATHER: fighting only the 'has beens' and on court he kept on running and running.

WHY DO I HAVE TO ENTER YOUR CONVENTION CENTER TO KNOW YOUR IDENTITY? I DIDN'T DEMAND YOU TO ENTER OUR ST. PETER'S BASILICA IN ROME OR IN THE BASILICA OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE IN JERUSALEM FOR YOU TO KNOW MY REAL NAME AND IDENTITY.

YOU ARE ONLY SHOWING THAT YOU ARE A COWARD LIKE YOUR LEADER. IN FILIPINO: 'Bahag ang Buntot mo', 'Urong ang Itlog'. YOU ARE HIDING WHILE PRETENDING TO BE COURAGEOUS. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

BY THE WAY, MAY I ASK: WHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND THAT THE HOUSE OF WORSHIP OF THE TRUE CHURCH IS BEING CALLED 'CONVENTION CENTER'? HA, HA, HA... YOUR HOUSE OF WORSHIP IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE BUILT BY THE CORRUPT IMELDA MARCOS... PHILIPPINE INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION CENTER. YOURS IS CHURCH OF GOD INTERNATIONAL CONVENTION CENTER. HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE AS CHEAP!

The so called “good priest” doesn’t want to negotiate for a debate. He keeps on making improbable conditions on his blog. It just simply proves that he cannot make a good stand on what he says.

If you want to know my identity, convince him to negotiate for a debate on National Television and then we’ll talk. In addition, I am not the one who will debate with him. There is no sense to say that I cannot win over a Priest. I also doubt your identity being a pure Catholic. Most of the things that you have stated does not belong to the Catholic Church. From my analysis, most of them are similar to the way of reasoning of the group of Wilfredo Santiago which is an expelled member of the Church.

How then can the priest negotiate with your kind if you don’t reveal your identity to him? You can’t just deal with someone with an unknown identity. That’s basic common sense. Don’t deal with strangers. If you are really serious for a debate, then introduce yourself to the good priest as Soriano’s feeler and lay your proposition. Unless you do so, you are just bluffing. The priest has already answered your challenge. It’s high time that you reveal your true self. Or perhaps you are really afraid?

FR. ABE: WHO SAYS THAT I DON'T WANT TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE DEBATE. I WANT TO NEGOTIATE. BUT SORIANO AND I MUST BE THE ONE TO TALK IT OVER.

BRO. PARABANOG IS RIGHT. I WILL NOT DEAL WITH ANONYMOUS PEOPLE. I DO NOT EVEN KNOW IF HE IS A BIRD, A PLANE, OR A DOG. HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT TO ANSWER IF HE IS SORIANO'S WIFE OR LOVER, A BODYGUARD OR A HOUSE SERVANT, THE SPOKESPERSON OR WHAT. HA, HA, HA...

ABNORMAL ANG BLOGGER NA ITO. SINONG SIRA ULO ANG MAKIKIPAG-NEGOTIATE SA HINDI MO KILALA? LOKOHIN N'YO ANG LELANG NYONG PANOT!!!

[In addition, I am not the one who will debate with him. There is no sense to say that I cannot win over a Priest. ]

Because you are afraid, plain and simple. You tried to rattle the priest through your “kuyog” tactic in the comment section of his blog but got surprised when the priest matched your attack fire with fire. You know that you can’t win against the priest. I read your exchanges and you and your buddies got busted big time. ha ha ha

FR. ABE: WAIT A MINUTE. I REMEMBER THAT IN OUR PREVIOUS EXCHANGE YOU ARE TAKING ME TO TASK FOR SAYING THAT 'I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO DEBATE SORIANO BECAUSE I AM NOT THE OFFICIAL DEBATER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.' YOU CONSIDER IT A SIGN OF COWARDICE AND UNWILLINGNESS TO FACE SORIANO. HA, HA, HA... OF COURSE, I FOLLOWED IT UP WITH AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION IF I WILL DEBATE MAMA ELI OR NOT. HA, HA, HA...

AND NOW, YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONE DEBATING AFTER ALL. YOU ARE EXCUSING YOURSELF. YOU ARE NOW WASHING YOUR HAND LIKE PONTIUS PILATE. YOU WANT ME TO FACE YOUR HIDING LEADER WHILE YOU ARE HIDING YOURSELF AND REFUSING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAITH. COWARD, COWARD, COWARD.

[I also doubt your identity being a pure Catholic. Most of the things that you have stated does not belong to the Catholic Church. From my analysis, most of them are similar to the way of reasoning of the group of Wilfredo Santiago which is an expelled member of the Church.]

Oh really? At one point, you are saying that I am Fr. Abe. Now you are claiming that I’m from Willy’s group. Which is which? Ano ba talaga kuya? You seems confused. It might be the result of the embarrassment that you have suffered from our latest exchanges. Congratulations, your deceit and ignorance of scriptures are broadcasted worldwide through the priest’s blog.

FR. ABE: HA, HA, HA... THIS IS LOW I.Q. DOG. TALAGANG ASKAL. HIS REASONING WILL PUT A MORON IN SHAME.

WE JUST LEARNED THE BREAKAWAY OF WILLY SANTIAGO LATE NOVEMBER 2009. AND IT WAS BRO. BELTRAN, O.P. WHO INFORMED ME ABOUT IT, THEN I RELAYED TO CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS-DAVAO, THEN THEY RELAYED TO CEBU AND I INFORMED DEFENSORES FIDEI FOUNDATION. HE, HE, HE... NOW, THIS LAPDOG IS HAVING HALLUCINATIONS THAT PARABANOG, WHO LEARNED WILLY'S MOVE FROM ME, IS NOT A PURE CATHOLIC BUT OF WILLY'S GROUP. HA, HA, HA...

I HAVE COLLECTIONS OF SHERLOCK HOLMES AND AGATHA CHRISTIE'S MYSTERY NOVELS. I CAN LEND THEM TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO SHARPEN YOUR REASONING SKILLS.

Now your writing style reverted back to the writing style of the Priest. Yes, I believe that you are the lame Priest with the support of Wilfredo Santiago’s Group. I will write a separate article to prove that. If you want to know my identity, that’s easy. Are you ready to debate with Bro. Eli on television with the facilitites of UNTV 37 and your own Catholic Television Program which is now possible? Or rather you will resort to improbable conditions to avoid it?

I did not suffer any embarrassement with all decency that I have from all our exchanges. Rather, all the excessive sarcasm and appeal to mockery that you’ve used just back-fired at you. It just gave us a glimpse of what the Catholic Church really is beneath the cloak of pretense and hypocrisy.

[Now your writing style reverted back to the writing style of the Priest. Yes, I believe that you are the lame Priest with the support of Wilfredo Santiago’s Group. I will write a separate article to prove that. If you want to know my identity, that’s easy. Are you ready to debate with Bro. Eli on television with the facilitites of UNTV 37 and your own Catholic Television Program which is now possible? Or rather you will resort to improbable conditions to avoid it?]

I think you have a pathetic talent of analyzing writing styles so stop pretending that you are an expert because you are not. You are indeed flattering me by saying that my style is the same as the priest. Guess again. he he he

FR. ABE: NOW, HE IS TRYING TO PRESENT HIMSELF AS AN EXPERT IN ANALYZING WRITING STYLES. HA, HA, HA... HOW PATHETIC INDEED.

HOW CAN FR. ABE BE WITH WILLY SANTIAGO WHEN FR. ABE IS A CATHOLIC SINCE CHILDHOOD? HE IS A KNOWN CATHOLIC APOLOGIST AND IS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CLERGY. HA, HA, HA...

THE IDIOT CANNOT EVEN DISCERN THE FACT THAT AS CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS OF COURSE WE ARE READING THE ACCUSATIONS AND COUNTER ACCUSATIONS BETWEEN WILLY SANTIAGO AND ELI SORIANO. AND OF COURSE, SINCE WILLY IS REVEALING A LOT OF 'JUNKS' OF HIS MAMA ELI IT IS BUT NATURAL FOR US TO USE THEM AGAINST THE ADD AND ELI SORIANO.

ISN'T THAT TECHNIQUE EXACTLY WHAT MAMA ELI DID WITH ERANO MANALO? HE USED THE SPEECH OF MANALO REPRIMANDING THE INC MINISTERS AND AIRED IT IN HIS TV PROGRAM. WE ARE SIMPLY LEARNING FROM MAMA ELI'S STYLES. NOW, HE MUST EXPECT THAT THE SAME FAVOR SHALL BE DONE BY HIS OPPONENTS AGAINST HIM. HA, HA, HA... KAYA NAMAN ITONG KANYANG MGA ASO AY NAMIMILIPIT SA KAHIHIYAN UPANG DEPENSAHAN SIYA.

[I did not suffer any embarrassment with all decency that I have from all our exchanges. Rather, all the excessive sarcasm and appeal to mockery that you’ve used just back-fired at you. It just gave us a glimpse of what the Catholic Church really is beneath the cloak of pretense and hypocrisy.]

Yes you are. You got exposed that’s why you deleted our exchanges, otherwise why delete it? I think the days when you guys attack the catholic faith with impunity are over. It seems that the best way to hammer reason among your kind is to use your own brand of language. And based on my experience, it is effective.

FR. ABE: I AGREE. WE HAVE LEARNED THE ART OF WAR. WHEN WE WERE ANSWERING PEACEFULLY AND CHARITABLY TO THE ATTACKS OF THESE DOGS THEY WERE SIMPLY LAUGHING AT US. NOW, WE HAVE LEARNED YOUR STYLE AND YOUR TECHNIQUES. AND WE ARE READY TO BATTLE IT OUT WITH YOU IN A LANGUAGE AND MODE OF YOUR OWN PREFERENCE.

You did not even answer the challenge thrown to you. “Are you ready to debate with Bro. Eli on television with the facilitites of UNTV 37 and your own Catholic Television Program which is now possible? Or rather you will resort to improbable conditions to avoid it?”

Do you think that your Fallacy, Appeal to Mockery is effective? Indeed it is effective to show to the world what Catholic Priests really are beneath those white skirts lies a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Our priest has already answered your bluff. Now have the decency to show your true identity so real talk about the debate can begin. Or maybe you are cowering in fear because you know first hand what you are up against? Our priest ain’t afraid of your fugitive preacher. Fr. Abe is not hiding his identity when he defended the catholic faith. While you and your kind makes every effort imaginable to hide your identity while attacking our faith. That’s is treachery and utter cowardice. If you are man enough show yourself. Gusto mo two on two pa, ikaw at puno mo at kaming dalawa ni Fr. Abe. Ilitaw mo puno mo. Eyeball to eyeball debate.

FR. ABE: YES NA YES!!! OO!!! I ACCEPT. I AM VERY MUCH WILLING TO FACE ELI SORIANO ON NATIONAL TV. BUT IT MUST BE IN EITHER CHANNEL 2 OR 7. NOT IN YOUR OWN DOMINATED TV.

IT MUST BE DONE IN A NON PARTIAL, NON RELIGIOUSLY OWNED STATION. FOR IMPARTIALITY AND EQUAL TREATMENT.

THEN, ELI SORIANO MUST COME IN PERSON TO NEGOTIATE AND DEBATE WITH ME. NO MORE NO LESS. I DO NOT ACCEPT LAPDOGS LIKE YOU.

CONCERNING 'WHITE SKIRTS', YOU MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT IT IS YOUR LEADER WHO IS A CLOSET QUEEN. WE PRIESTS ARE NOT MARRIED BECAUSE OF PROMISE OF CELIBACY. HOW ABOUT MAMA ELI? TUMATANDA NA E HINDI NAG-AASAWA. BAKIT, IS HE LOOKING FOR A MALE PARTNER? IS HE WAITING THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGE BE LEGALIZED IN THE PHILIPPINES?

HE WILL WAIT IN VAIN BECAUSE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL OPPOSE ITS LEGALIZATION AS SHE IS DOING AGAINST THE RH BILL. KAYA NAMAN HINDI MAKATIIS, NANG RAPE NA.

You did not accept the challenge thrown at you Mister Abraham Arganiosa. Instead,you give improbable conditions in order to evade from the challenge of a debate on National Television. Now you continue to insists on finding out our identity but you fail to give a decent answer to our challenge. Open your communication lines on your television show and Bro. Eli Soriano will debate with you. That will be broad casted on UNTV 37 as well. That is our proposal which you cannot accept because of your fear to suffer the same fate as your Comrades.

Have you read the good priest’s blog? Fr. Abe has already accepted your challenge. Now have the decency to show your true identity and present your fugitive leader. Stop creating illusion that we catholics are afraid of your kind because we are not. On the contrary you are the one who is afraid based on your actuations. Why is it that you don’t want to show your real identity? What you are doing is really ridiculous and cheap trying to arrange a debate while withholding your identity. Anong malay namin kung sino kang Judas o Judesa na mahilig mang-gudtime? Do you have authorization to speak on behalf of your fugitive leader? How can we know since up to now you are so secretive of your identity? That’s why serious talk about the debate starts when you manned up and formally introduce your self to the priest. Until you do so, all your talk about the debate are just crap. Bulok na yang istilo mo.

Show yourself and present your fugitive preacher. Debate should be face to face, eyeball to eyeball. Your challenge about debate in the internet is just all crap. A pathetic excuse not to face our catholic faith defenders.

3 Jn 1:13-14 (Ang Biblia)

13 Maraming mga bagay ang isusulat ko sana sa iyo, datapuwa’t hindi ko ibig isulat sa iyo ng tinta at panulat: 14 Datapuwa’t inaasahan kong makita kang madali, at tayo’y magkakausap ng mukhaan.

FR. ABE: SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU. I AM NOT PARABANOG AND PARABANOG IS NOT FR. ABE.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO USE ANOTHER IDENTITY TO EXPRESS MYSELF. AND IT IS NEVER MY INTENTION TO HIDE MY IDENTITY. IT'S NOT MY STYLE. I'M PERSONALLY NOT FOND OF USING ALIASES.

I AM VERY GLAD THAT BRO. PARABANOG HAS EFFECTIVELY DEMOLISHED YOUR CLAIMS. THE MORE YOU WRITE IN RESPONSE THE MORE YOUR CREDIBILITY IS CRUMBLING ONE BY ONE. THAT IS WHY YOUR COMPANIONS HAVE ABANDONED YOU. THEY ARE ASHAMED OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOUR EXCHANGES. LALONG NADIDIIN ANG INYONG LEADER AT ANG INYONG SAMAHAN.

[The Lord Jesus Christ told the Christians not to Fear those who can kill the body but fear the one who can destroy both the body and soul in hell.Douay-Rheims Bible

(Matthew 10:28)

And fear ye not them that kill the body, and are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell.

A Christian preacher does not fear those people who can kill and destroy his body which is the reason why he continues to preach despite of all the persecutions and trial he faces. This is exactly the same thing that the Apostle Paul experienced during the time of the First Century Christian Church.]

If your fugitive preacher is not afraid then why he is in hiding? Why is it that he refused to face his accusers? The verse doesn’t suit your leader because he is a guilty coward who tries to evade justice. Our priests fulfill the verse. Our priests and missionaries are the ones being killed, tortured, and kidnapped in war torn and pagan-atheist dominated areas. Not ADD ministers. Takot lang ninyo.

FR. ABE: RIGHT THERE YOU ARE BRO. PARABANOG. HOW MANY NUNS AND PRIESTS HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED BY ABU SAYAFF? SO MANY ALREADY. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO PREACH EVEN IN AREAS DOMINATED BY THE BANDITS. SOME OF THEM WERE EVEN TORTURED. YET YEAR AFTER YEAR A CONTINUOUS FLOW OF CATHOLC MISSIONARIES ARE GOING TO MINDANAO TO PREACH THE GOSPEL EVEN IN MUSLIM DOMINATED AREAS.

SI SORIANO HINDI KAYA YON. KASI DUWAG.

[Bro. Eli was always successful on refuting the claims of these claiming to be God-sent preachers which is the reason why other preachers are now avoiding to engage with him in a debate. This is the same scenario that is now happening to the Catholic Priest, Abe Arganiosa. After writing an article on his blog, the members of the Church of God ask him if he will agree to engage in a debate with Bro. Eli Soriano.]

Then why not present your leader? As far as I know, it is your leader that is in hiding. He is a fugitive from justice. So who is avoiding who? You know the identity of the good priest while yours is in secret. Perhaps that’s the reason why you have the guts to attack him because you know that whatever happens, if worst may come to worst, even if you got busted hundred times, you can still get away and can’t be held accountable. Well, that is cowardice to the nth degree to me.

When will you become man enough to deal with the priest on equal terms? Fat chance, I guess because you are a coward just like your fugitive preacher. Indeed, you know will know them by their fruits. (cf. Mt 7:20) lolz

FR. ABE: WELL, I AGREE WITH THE CHALLENGE TO DEBATE ELI SORIANO. NOW, BRING HIM OUT TO START THE NEGOTIATION FOR A FACE TO FACE, ONE ON ONE DEBATE.

[I noticed that one commenter has a similar way of writing like him. We can notice that Mr. Arganiosa loves to use braces in order to quote from another person just like this example.

Similarly, a commenter named Parabanog also has the same style of writing.

In addition, checking the IP Address of Parabanog gives us a clue that he is in the same area where Mr. Arganiosa is.

He is in Legaspi using Smart Bro as his Internet Service Provider base on his IP Address. According to Mr. Argionsa, he is in Sorsogan which is very much near Legaspi. Both places are located in the Bicol Region. This gives me an idea that this Parabanog is also Mr. Arganiosa.]

It seems like someone is reading too much cheap detective novels in here. At any rate, I find your deductive reasoning as amateurish at best. Your conclusion seems constipated and premeditated by bias and plain stupidity. Try harder, adddefender. You’ve missed my location by miles. He he he

What makes you think that if one person is in Legazpi while the other is in Sorsogon, then they are actually one person? That if one is using brackets in quoting others, and someone is doing the same, then they are surely one person? You see, your deductions are trashy and cheap. Guess again, adddefender.

FR. ABE: BOBO TALAGA. I DON'T HAVE SMART BRO. BESIDES, IF IM USING SMART BRO. E MERONG SMART CENTER DITO SA SORSOGON. PUPUNTA PA BA AKO NG LEGAZPI PARA LANG SA SMART SERVICE. HE, HE, HE...

LANDLINE ANG GAMIT KO. THE INTERNET SERVICES IN OUR OFFICES ARE CENTRALIZED BY A POWERFUL WI-FI SYSTEM. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW. HA, HA,HA...

[He even used Job 4:8 to sustain his stand. It flashed immediately to my mind that this verse was used on one of our Church’s Thanksgiving topics during the time when Wilfredo Santiago was still inside the Church. Just like the flow of our Thanksgiving topic, he also used Gal. 6:7-8 to sustain his claim that the words of Eliphaz was right. However, the verse in Job 4:8 as it was enlightened before the Church of God are not really the words of Eliphaz. We can prove that on a separate article which may be written in Tagalog. It then came to my mind that this Catholic Priest, now uses the arguments feed by Wilfredo Santiago’s Group.]

Does the use of Job 4:8 and Ga 6:7-8 to prove that not all that what Eliphaz had said were erroneous, a patented reasoning of Willy? Who told you? Don’t show your ignorance. Catholic apologetics is much more than what you think it is.

What God had said in Job 42:7 is clear: only those stated by Eliphaz pertaining to God that is erroneous. The verse doesn’t state that ALL OF ELIPHAZ’S STATEMENTS ARE WRONG.

Job 42:7 (Ang Biblia)

At nangyari, na pagkatapos na masalita ng Panginoon ang mga salitang ito kay Job, sinabi ng Panginoon kay Eliphaz na Temanita, Ang aking poot ay nagaalab laban sa iyo, at laban sa iyong dalawang kaibigan: SAPAGKAT HINDI KAYO NANGAGSALITA TUNGKOL SA AKIN NG BAGAY NA MATUWID, na gaya ng ginawa ng aking lingkod na si Job.

SAPAGKAT HINDI KAYO NANGAGSALITA TUNGKOL SA AKIN NG BAGAY NA MATUWID. Isn’t it clear enough? TUNGKOL SA AKIN. Meron bang LAHAT dyan? That’s why my arguments still stand: ANG DATING DAAN AY NILAKARAN NG MGA MASAMANG TAO.

[In the first place, the Catholic Church never used these arguments in their Catechisms. The Catholic Church did not even teach that it is bad to face the east direction whenever praying. Those arguments just came from Wilfredo Santiago and is not originally Catholic.]

Where in the bible can you find that Christians are supposed to pray to the east kneeling? What verse? If you don’t have a verse and you are doing it, then it is a clear violation of your credo: Wag hihigit sa mga bagay na nasusulat. (cf. 1 Cor 4:6) You fail by your own standard.

There is no rule that all what catholic defenders should say while arguing among your kind, must come from Catechism. In war, one can use any weapon one may deem effective. So what if the argument comes from Willy? Does it prove that your practice of kneeling to the east during worship biblical? You are diverting the issue. Instead of resorting to fallacies, of which you are so fond of, why not you start showing us biblical verses supporting your pagan practice of kneeling facing the east while worshipping?

FR. ABE: TALAGANG BOBO. SO, FOR HIM A CATHOLIC MUST ALWAYS ARGUE FROM CATECHISM. WHO SAYS THAT? GOSH, IN DEBATES YOU CAN USE ANY ARGUMENT OR DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO YOUR CASE. THUS, IF WE USE WILLY'S ARGUMENTS THEN IT IS OUR PREROGATIVE. YOU SHOWED CRACKS UNDER WILLY'S ATTAKCS SO WE WILL ATTACK YOUR WEAK POINTS.

THAT IS WHY THE QUESTION: "WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THE COMMAND THAT THE TRUE BELIEVERS MUST KNEEL FACING THE EAST ALONE?" If you cannot answer that then you are kneeling and worshipping unBiblically. THEN YOUR WORSHIP MUST BE FROM THE DEVIL. That is your standard. We are simply applying to you your own standard. UNTIL NOW YOU CANNOT GIVE A VERSE TO SUPPORT IT. SO, SUMASAMBA KAYO SA DEMONYO!

These Catholics never learned their lesson. Bro. Eli Soriano has debated with lots of Catholics and none of them prevailed.

I know what will happen to this Priest.

Parabanog Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. December 20, 2009 at 2:55 pm Reply

Oh really? Then bring out your fugitive preacher from his hiding place. Don’t hide him.

FR. ABE: IT APPEARS AS SUCH BECAUSE SORIANO DEBATED ONLY THE NON-FORMALLY TRAINED CATHOLICS. MGA KANTO BOY LANG ANG HINAHARAP NIYA.

SORIANO INTENTIONALLY AVOIDED THE BEST DEBATES OF OTHER RELIGIONS, FROM RCC, INC, BORN AGAIN AND SDA. LOOK AT HIS DEBATES ALL AGAINST UNKNOWN.