The Lord Jesus and the Samaritan Woman Catholic Harley said...
Father Balita ko rin po nung unang 1000 yrs ng simbahan eh nag-aasawa din daw po ang mga pari kahit sa Latin Rite, totoo po ba ito?
DEFINITELY NOT. IT IS OBVIOUSLY ERRONEOUS.
1. The origin of Clerical Celibacy is JESUS CHRIST the High Priest of the New Covenant. Jesus didn't marry a woman but HE MARRIED THE CHURCH [Ephesians 5:22-27]. So our priests are doing the same because they are Ministers of Christ.
2. St. Peter the First Pope abandoned his wife, his home and his parents to be with Jesus and the Church. [Luke 18:28-30]
3. St. Paul repeatedly exhorts the Christians to "IMITATE ME AS I IMITATE CHRIST" [1 Corinthians 11:1/ cf. 1 Thessalonians 1:6]
4. The rest of the Apostles didn't get married like St. Paul. None of them except Peter was said to have a wife.
THUS, THE CLERICAL CELIBACY STARTED DURING THE FIRST CENTURY OF CHRISTIANITY, RIGHT DURING THE TIME OF JESUS AND ON TO THE APOSTOLIC AGE.
The first historical document showing clerical celibacy is found in THE COUNCIL OF ELVIRA [c. 300A.D.]:
"In canon xxxiii we have the oldest positive ecclesiastical ordinance concerning the celibacy of the clergy. Canon xiii exhibits the institution of nuns (virgines Deo sacratae) as long familiar to Spain." [CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA]
THE DOCUMENT IS THE OLDEST EXISTING DOCUMENT ABOUT CLERICAL CELIBACY [c. 300AD] WHICH IS 700 YEARS PRIOR TO 1,000AD. IT PROVES THAT THE CLAIM YOU ARE PRESENTING IS WRONG AND DISTORTED.
SECOND, THE CLERICAL CELIBACY IN THE CHURCH IS OLDER STILL BECAUSE THE COUNCIL OF ELVIRA SIMPLY EXPRESS THE RULE ALREADY ON-GOING DURING ITS SESSIONS AND DIDN'T EXPRESS THAT IT PROMULGATES THE RULE STARTING FROM THEN ON.
CLERICAL CELIBACY CAME FROM CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES.
January 1, 2010 12:11 PM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
Sa katanungan kung merong mga pari ang may asawa noong first 1,000 years. Ang sagot natin ay mayroon. Tulad ni San Pedro ang mga ito ay may asawa na bago naitalagang Ministro ng Simbahan.
Kahit ngayon ay nagaganap ito. May mga paring may asawa na bago sila naging pari kay may asawa sila. Subalit sa Latin Rite ay tinatalikdan nila ang buhay may asawa upang igugol ang buhay sa paglilingkod sa Santa Iglesia.
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Salamat po sa pag-klaro!!!
ReplyDeleteWelcome Brother.
ReplyDeleteFr. tatanong ko lang po kung totoo po ba na ang Salitang KATOLIKO ay ginamit lang noong 1300–1350. bagaman pong kumbinsido po ako sa paliwanag ni Brod. Cenon Bibe sa blog nya kaugnay dito ay nais ko lang pong sanang humingi ng ibang paliwanag hingil sa issue na ito na halos ilang linggo ng tinatalakay sa blog ni brod. cenon. salamat po Fr.
ReplyDeletePero matanong ko lang po.
ReplyDeleteKailan po talaga OPISYAL na inimplementa sa RCC ang batas ng Celibacy sa sangkaparian nito?
regarding the celibacy father Abe. I would like to ask some of clarifications. Can we say that the mass of Byzantine rite their priest and clergy are married, is still valid? another thing if the bishops does not obey the papal mandate they commit sin regarding the vow of obedience? now the latin mass
ReplyDeleteunder the moto proprio issued by the Pope, it is obliged all priest to celebrate the TLM? regarding the situation of the SSPX some priest says the we are not encourage to attend their mass because the society has the canonical problem and has no jurisdiction the ex communication will affect also to the faithful who attend their mass? cfd usep jeffrey vice internal
Greetings Father,
ReplyDeletetanong ko lang po, pano na po yung mga paring nag-asawa? hindi na po ba nila pwede gawin ang mga gawain ng pari tulad ng pagpapatawad sa kumpisal, pagmimisa etc???
excommunicated po ba sila?
nga po pala, ano po ba ang exact definition ng excommunication? -tanggal ka na po ba sa simbahan pag ganun o hindi ka lang pwede tumanggap ng sakramento???
lubhang napakarami ko pong katanungan...
sori po "curious" lang :D
Father enge naman po ng sked ng apologetics class ng defensores fidei kung meron po kayo...
ReplyDeletenga pala, pwede po ba mag-gain ng indulgence pag pinagtatanggol ang iglesia??? hmmm...
Father may tanung po ako uli...
ReplyDeleteregarding the papacy, sabi po ng ilang american apologists eh sa original greek daw nakalagay ang word na "taute te" which literally means "on this very rock" o kaya ay "on this same rock" ...yun naman pala eh, on this same rock pala ang sabi ni Lord, so bakit po "you are Peter and upon this rock i will build my church" bakit po upon this rock lang??? asan na po yung word na "very" o "same"???
I'm really really curious about this...
Dear Rodel, PART 1
ReplyDeleteAng salitang CATHOLIC ay hindi nag-umpisang gamitan lang nuong first part of the 14th century [1300-1350].
No, no, no.
The term EKKLESIA CATH'OLES or CATHOLIC CHURCH or UNIVERSAL CHURCH or CHURCH THROUGHOUT ay unang ginamit ni San Lucas sa original na Greek Bible ng New Testament, mas particular sa Acts 9:31.
Marami pang mga talata ng Biblia na nakasulat ang salitang Catholic. Pero hindi mo ito mamababasa sa wikang Englis o Filipino na Biblia sapagkat ang salitang Catholic ay GRIEGO o GREEK at hindi ugat na Ingles o Tagalog.
Ito ang mga talatang nagpapatunay:
LUKE 4:14 " .. Ho Galalaia kai pheme exerchatomai KATH'OLES"
LUKE 8:39 "Apelthen KATH'OLES ten polin..."
LUKE 23:5 "Anaseis ton laos didasko KATH'OLES"
ACTS 9:41 "Gnotos de egeneto KATH'OLES"
ACTS 10:32 "Hemeis oidate ho genomenon rhema KATH'OLES"
ACTS 4:18 "Kai kelasantes autos pareggeilan to KATH'OLOU..."
and the two significant were,
ACTS 9:31 "He men oun EKKLESIA KATH'OLES .." - the Church is called "CHURCH THROUGH OUT" in greek, "EKKLESIA KATH'OLES" (KATA + HOLOS = KATHOLIKOS).
To Rodel, PART 2
ReplyDeleteBukod sa mga talatang iyan meron pang mga napaka lumang dokomento ang mga unang Kristiano na nagpapakita ng paggamit at pagtawag ng Catholic sa Church. Ito ang research ng sikat na Catholic Apologist na si John Salza:
The Church is called “Catholic”
"See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Christ Jesus does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles. Do ye also reverence the deacons, as those that carry out the appointment of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to the Smyrneans, 8:2 (c. A.D. 110).
"[A]ll the people wondered that there should be such a difference between the unbelievers and the elect, of whom this most admirable Polycarp was one, having in our own times been an apostolic and prophetic teacher, and bishop of the Catholic Church which is in Smyrna. For every word that went out of his mouth either has been or shall yet be accomplished." Martyrdom of Polycarp, 16:2 (A.D. 155).
“…to be in honour however with the Catholic Church for the ordering of ecclesiastical discipline...one to the Laodicenes, another to the Alexandrians, both forged in Paul's name to suit the heresy of Marcion, and several others, which cannot be received into the Catholic Church; for it is not fitting that gall be mixed with honey. The Epistle of Jude no doubt, and the couple bearing the name of John, are accepted by the Catholic Church...But of Arsinous, called also Valentinus, or of Militiades we receive nothing at all.” The fragment of Muratori (A.D. 177).
"[N]or does it consist in this, that he should again falsely imagine, as being above this [fancied being], a Pleroma at one time supposed to contain thirty, and at another time an innumerable tribe of Aeons, as these teachers who are destitute of truly divine wisdom maintain; while the Catholic Church possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world, as we have already said." Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1:10,3 (A.D. 180).
“For it is evident that those men lived not so long ago,--in the reign of Antoninus for the most part,--and that they at first were believers in the doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome under the episcopate of the blessed Eleutherus, until on account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled.” Tertullian, On the Prescription Against Heretics, 22,30 (A.D. 200).
”Whence you ought to know that the bishop is in the Church, and the Church in the bishop; and if any one be not with the bishop, that he is not in the Church, and that those flatter themselves in vain who creep in, not having peace with God's priests, and think that they communicate secretly with some; while the Church, which is Catholic and one, is not cut nor divided, but is indeed connected and bound together by the cement of priests who cohere with one another.” Cyprian, To Florentius, Epistle 66/67 (A.D. 254).
To Rodel, PART 3
ReplyDelete“But for those who say, There was when He was not, and, Before being born He was not, and that He came into existence out of nothing, or who assert that the Son of God is of a different hypostasis or substance...these the Catholic and apostolic Church anathematizes.” Creed of Nicea (A.D. 325).
"Concerning those who call themselves Cathari, if they come over to the Catholic and Apostolic Church, the great and holy Synod decrees that they who are ordained shall continue as they are in the clergy. But it is before all things necessary that they should profess in writing that they will observe and follow the dogmas of the Catholic and Apostolic Church; in particular that they will communicate with persons who have been twice married, and with those who having lapsed in persecution have had a period [of penance] laid upon them, and a time [of restoration] fixed so that in all things they will follow the dogmas of the Catholic Church..." Council of Nicaea I (A.D. 325).
“Concerning this Holy Catholic Church Paul writes to Timothy, 'That thou mayest know haw thou oughtest to behave thyself in the House of God, which is the Church of the Living God, the pillar and ground of the truth'” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures,18:25(A.D. 350).
"[T]he Article, In one Holy Catholic Church,' on which, though one might say many things, we will speak but briefly. It is called Catholic then because it extends over all the world, from one end of the earth to the other; and because it teaches universally and completely one and all the doctrines which ought to come to men's knowledge, concerning things both visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly… for this cause the Faith has securely delivered to thee now the Article, And in one Holy Catholic Church;' that thou mayest avoid their wretched meetings, and ever abide with the Holy Church Catholic in which thou wast regenerated. And if ever thou art sojourning in cities, inquire not simply where the Lord's House is (for the other sects of the profane also attempt to call their own dens houses of the Lord), nor merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the peculiar name of this Holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-begotten Son of God.” Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lectures, 18:23,26 (A.D. 350).
"I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the remission of sins, the resurrection of the flesh, and eternal life. Amen." Apostles Creed (A.D. 360).
"And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the life-giver, Who proceeds from the Father, Who with the Father and the Son is together worshiped and together glorified, Who spoke through the prophets; in one holy Catholic, and apostolic Church." Constantinopolitan Creed (A.D. 381).
"Those who from heresy turn to orthodoxy, and to the portion of those who are being saved, we receive according to the following method and custom: Arians, and Macedonians, and Sabbatians, and Novatians, who call themselves Cathari or Aristori, and Quarto-decimans or Tetradites, and Apollinarians, we receive, upon their giving a written renunciation [of their errors] and anathematize every heresy which is not in accordance with the Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of God." Council of Constantinople I, Canon 7 (A.D. 381).
To Rodel, PART 4
ReplyDelete“We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is Catholic and which is called Catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard.” Augustine, The True Religion, 7:12 (A.D. 390).
“Inasmuch, I repeat, as this is the case, we believe also in the Holy Church, [intending thereby] assuredly the Catholic. For both heretics and schismatics style their congregations churches. But heretics, in holding false opinions regarding God, do injury to the faith itself; while schismatics, on the other hand, in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe. Wherefore neither do the heretics belong to the Church catholic, which loves God; nor do the schismatics form a part of the same.” Augustine, On Faith and Creed, 10:21 (A.D. 393).
"For in the Catholic Church, not to speak of the purest wisdom, to the knowledge of which a few spiritual, men attain in this life…--not to speak of this wisdom, which you do not believe to be in the Catholic Church, there are many other things which most justly keep me in her bosom. The consent of peoples and nations…so does her authority…the succession of priests…[a]nd so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house. Such then in number and importance are the precious ties belonging to the Christian name which keep a believer in the Catholic Church…Now if the truth is so clearly proved as to leave no possibility of doubt, it must be set before all the things that keep me in the Catholic Church…For my part, I should not believe the gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church…for it was through the Catholics that I got my faith in it; and so, whatever you bring from the gospel will no longer have any weight with me. Wherefore, if no clear proof of the apostleship of Manichaeus is found in the gospel, I will believe the Catholics rather than you." Augustine, Against the Epistle of Manichaeus, 4:5,5:6 (A.D 397).
To Rodel, PART 5
ReplyDelete"You think that you make a very acute remark when you affirm the name Catholic to mean universal, not in respect to the communion as embracing the whole world, but in respect to the observance of all Divine precepts and of all the sacraments, as if we (even accepting the position that the Church is called Catholic because it honestly holds the whole truth, of which fragments here and there are found in some heresies) rested upon the testimony of this word's signification, and not upon the promises of God, and so many indisputable testimonies of the truth itself, our demonstration of the existence of the Church of God in all nations." Augustine, To Vincent the Rogatist, 93:7,23 (A.D. 403).
"Philip the presbyter and legate of the Apostolic See said: There is no doubt, and in fact it has been known in all ages, that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the Apostles, pillar of the faith, and foundation of the Catholic Church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour and Redeemer of the human race, and that to him was given the power of loosing and binding sins: who down even to to-day and forever both lives and judges in his successors." Council of Ephesus, Session III (A.D. 431).
"I have often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical depravity; and I have always, and in almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: That whether I or anyone else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of heretics as they arise, and to continue sound and complete in the Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two ways; first, by the authority of the Divine Law, and then, by the Tradition of the Catholic Church…Therefore, it is very necessary, on account of so great intricacies of such various error, that the rule for the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed in accordance with the standard of Ecclesiastical and Catholic interpretation" Vincent of Lerins, Commonitory for the Antiquity and Universality of the Catholic Faith, 2:4,5 (A.D. 434).
"Wherefore the most holy and blessed Leo, archbishop of the great and elder Rome, through us, and through this present most holy synod together with the thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the Apostle, who is the rock and foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox faith, hath stripped him of the episcopate, and hath alienated from him all hieratic worthiness. Therefore let this most holy and great synod sentence the before mentioned Dioscorus to the canonical penalties." Council of Chalcedon, Session III (A.D. 451).
Dear Pinoy Reformista,
ReplyDelete[Kailan po talaga OPISYAL na inimplementa sa RCC ang batas ng Celibacy sa sangkaparian nito?]
May mga nagsasabi na ito ay naisagawa noong c. 303 AD nuong Council of Elvira.
Subalit, makikita natin na ang mga Obispo at Paring Catolico ay walang mga asawa bago pa dumating ang Council of Elvira. Ito ay kusang lumaganap ayon sa gabay ng Espiritu Santo mula ng panahon ng Panginoong Jesu-Cristo at ng mga Apostoles na hindi nagsipag-asawa.
Isa pa ang Council of Elvira ay hindi Ecumenical Council. Wala itong autoridad na magdesisyon para sa buong Santa Iglesia. Ibig sabihin nagdesisyon lamang ang Consilyong ito ayon sa nakalatag na alituntunin at kaugalian ng Santa Iglesia at ipinahayag lamang nito ang kaugaliang pinatutupad na ng Iglesia.
Hahayaan kong ang mga katunggali natin ang magsabi kung kailan ito opisyal na ginawang batas ng Simbahan at tignan natin kung tutuo ang sapantaha nila.
Dear Bro. Jeffrey,
ReplyDeleteO it is great to be visited by my beloved friends the CFD Davao. I have visited already your school Bro. Jeffrey. Please send my regards to Bro. Ryan Mejillano.
Now to answer your questions:
[regarding the celibacy father Abe. I would like to ask some of clarifications. Can we say that the mass of Byzantine rite their priest and clergy are married, is still valid?]
Yes brother, it is valid. Because both the Byzantine Church and the Roman Church unanimously consider their liturgy and canonical ordinations as valid.
What makes the Mass valid are the following:
1. Valid ordinations. The sacrament of priesthood is validly conferred on the Byzantine rite priests and Bishops.
2. Valid Rite and Liturgy. The Byzantine Rite is apostolic in origin just like the Latin Rite and it is universally accepted as valid. Thus, it confer to us the Sacrament of the Eucharist as the Latin Rite and the other approved Rites of the Church.
The Byzantine Mass is valid in form and valid in substance and valid in mode or manner of performing the actions and words of Christ necessary for the Transubstantiation.
[another thing if the bishops does not obey the papal mandate they commit sin regarding the vow of obedience?]
Wow, you are asking provocative questions Bro. Jeffrey ha.
1. If the Bishop severes his communion with the Pope and forms his own sect, church, fellowship away from the Petrine See. Then he commits SCHISM. He severes himself and his followers from the Body of Christ the Church.
2. If the Bishop disobeys the Pope in matters of of the dogma of faith then he is committing APOSTASY. If a particular aspect of faith is negated then he is into HERESY.
3. If the Bishop disobeys the pastoral directives of the Pope then he is committing disobedience to the Pope who represents St. Peter and the Lord Jesus Himself.
The Bishop can appeal to the Pope if his order is difficult to implement but at the end it is the Pope who must give the final decision and the Bishop must obey him.
[now the latin mass
under the moto proprio issued by the Pope, it is obliged all priest to celebrate the TLM?]
Regarding the Moto Proprio Summorum Pontificum the Pope obliges the priests to celebrate the TLM if the people request them for it.
If the priests will refuse they should go to the Bishop and the Bishop must provide a priest for the people requesting for it.
[regarding the situation of the SSPX some priest says the we are not encourage to attend their mass because the society has the canonical problem and has no jurisdiction the ex communication will affect also to the faithful who attend their mass?]
Bro. Jeff the excommunications of SSPX Bishops have been removed by Pope Benedict XVI and thus no excommunications existing anymore.
However, the Catholics are still discouraged to join the SSPX Masses because they are not yet in full Communion with the Church of Rome.
Even though their Masses are valid but I will personally not join their Masses because there is still a lot ot things that they should clarify with the Holy See.
Besides based on my personal experience with their members, many of them are anti-Catholic. They hate the Pope, they hate our Novus Ordo Mass and many of the things in the Church now. Being with them is like being with an anti-Catholic INC, Born Again or ADD. So, what for? I'd rather stay in our Catholic Masses.
Dear Curious Catholic,
ReplyDelete[Greetings Father,
tanong ko lang po, pano na po yung mga paring nag-asawa? hindi na po ba nila pwede gawin ang mga gawain ng pari tulad ng pagpapatawad sa kumpisal, pagmimisa etc???]
Yes. Hindi na sila pwedeng magfunction as priest. Hindi sila pwedeng magmisa, magpakumpisal, etc.
Suspended ang kanilang Faculty or Authority to perform the Sacraments.
But, they can do it on one situation or condition: IN CASE OF EXTREME NECESSITY OR DANGER OF DEATH. Halimbawa, may mamamatay at gustong magkumpisal, walang ibang pari. Ang paring nag-asawa ay maaaring pakumpisalin siya at bigyan ng huling sacramento.
[excommunicated po ba sila?]
Hindi naman. They are not excommunicated. Catholic pa rin sila. Members pa rin sila ng Catholic Church.
Actually they are still priests kaya lang suspendido ang authority to functions as priests or to serve at the altar of God.
[nga po pala, ano po ba ang exact definition ng excommunication? -tanggal ka na po ba sa simbahan pag ganun o hindi ka lang pwede tumanggap ng sakramento???]
Ito ang definition ng Excommunication ayon sa Catholic Encyclopedia:
"Excommunication (Latin ex, out of, and communio or communicatio, communion — exclusion from the communion), the principal and severest censure, is a medicinal, spiritual penalty that deprives the guilty Christian of all participation in the common blessings of ecclesiastical society."
Strickly speaking, tanggal ka na sa Santa Iglesia. Hindi ka na miembro at dahil dito hindi ka na pwedeng tumanggap ng mga Sacramento. LIBAN SA ISA: ANG KUMPISAL.
Kagaya ng tinuran ng Catholic Encyclopedia ang pangunahing layunin ng Excommunication ay MEDICINAL. Para gamutin ang spiritual na sakit ng Excommunicado. Upang tulungan siyang magsisi at magbagong buhay. At magbalik loob sa Santa Iglesia. Kaya makakalapit siya sa Kumpisal upang matulungan siyang magsisi, itama ang kanyang pagkakamali at gabayan siyang magbalik-loob sa Santa Iglesia.
Ito ang pinaka matinding parusa ng Santa Iglesia kaya naka reserva ito sa mga mabibigat na kaso at kasalanan.
Dear Curious Catholic,
ReplyDelete[Father enge naman po ng sked ng apologetics class ng defensores fidei kung meron po kayo...]
Katatapos lang ng mga apologetics seminars ng Defensores. I will announce kapag uumpisahan na ang new set of apologetic lectures.
[nga pala, pwede po ba mag-gain ng indulgence pag pinagtatanggol ang iglesia??? hmmm...]
Lahat ng mabubutin nating ginagawa ay papalitan ng Dios ng grasya para sa ating kaligtasan.
Dear Curuious Catholic,
ReplyDelete[regarding the papacy, sabi po ng ilang american apologists eh sa original greek daw nakalagay ang word na "taute te" which literally means "on this very rock" o kaya ay "on this same rock" ...yun naman pala eh, on this same rock pala ang sabi ni Lord, so bakit po "you are Peter and upon this rock i will build my church" bakit po upon this rock lang??? asan na po yung word na "very" o "same"???]
Kasi sa wikang English maliwanag na na ang tinutukoy ni Jesus ay si Pedro. Subalit ang mga anti Catholics ay bumabalik sa Griego para sabihin na sa Greek daw hindi si Pedro ang tinutukoy. Kasi si Petros daw ay maliit na bato at ang tinutukoy daw ni Kristo ay ang Petra na malaking bato. He, he, he...
Subalit, pinapaliwanag ng mga Catholic Apologists na sa Greek malinaw din na si Petros ang tinutukoy dahil sa "taute te" na nagpapatunay na ang Petros at ang Petra ay iisa ang tinutukoy - si Petros o si Pedro.
Nung sinulat ni Mateo ang Matthew 16:18-19 si Pedro ay ginawa nyang Petros kasi masculine singular noun. Subalit nung ginamit nya ang greek term for rock ginamit nya ang tamang gamit nito na feminine form singular: Petra. Subalit iisang bato at tao ang tinutukoy ni Cristo.
Actually nung sinabi yon ni Cristo ang gamit nyang salita ay Aramaic at hindi Griego. Kaya no need to change into masculine and feminine. Ang term ay CEPHAS. Yan ang dahilan kaya in Aramaic si Pedro ay tinatawag na Cephas.
Parang sa Tagalog: "Ikaw ay bato at sa ibabaw ng batong ito..." Malinaw na iisang bato ang tinutukoy at ito ay patungkol kay San Pedro, ang taong pinagtayuan ng Santa Iglesia.
So kung nangumpisal po ba ang isang taong excommunicated eh na-lift na yung excommunication nya upon absolution???
ReplyDelete[May mga nagsasabi na ito ay naisagawa noong c. 303 AD nuong Council of Elvira.]
ReplyDeleteSino po yung mga taong nagsasabi na opisyal na naimplemente sa RCC ang batas ng Celibacy sa mga sangkaparian?
[Subalit, makikita natin na ang mga Obispo at Paring Catolico ay walang mga asawa bago pa dumating ang Council of Elvira.]
Ibig niyo po bang sabihin, wala pong pari ang nagasawa noong mga panahon bago ang kunsilyo ng Elvira (303 AD), at nagkaroon lamang ng mga paring may asawa matapos ang kunsilyong ito?
[Ito ay kusang lumaganap ayon sa gabay ng Espiritu Santo mula ng panahon ng Panginoong Jesu-Cristo at ng mga Apostoles na hindi nagsipag-asawa.]
Maaari mapagkakatiwalaan at patas na reperensya po ba kayo na makapagpapatunay tungkol sa bagay na iyan?
Maraming salamat po.
more questions father!!!
ReplyDeleteregarding the origin of scriptures...
gospel of john po muna; nung isinulat po ba ito nung 90 ad eh may gumawa na po ng marami pang kopya nito? or is it safe to say na isa lang ang kopya nito na nag-circulate sa buong iglesia???
asa vatican po ba ang original na manuscript nito?
thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!
tanung po ulit father sensya na...
ReplyDeletepwede po ba makahingi ng kahit konting historical background tungkol sa pagconvert ng mga Katoliko sa mga Barbarians sa Europe???
kelan po ba ito nangyari??? panahon po ba ito nina attila the hun saka genghis khan???
super thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[So kung nangumpisal po ba ang isang taong excommunicated eh na-lift na yung excommunication nya upon absolution???]
ReplyDeleteIn some cases yes and in some cases no.
In case of automatic excommunication because of committing Abortion, if the priest has a special faculty to forgive such case from the Bishop then she or he is forgiven and automatically restored to Church unity.
But in case of heresy and schism, the repentant sinner must publicly renounce his heresy and return to full communion with the Bishop or the Pope.
There are cases of excommunications reserved only to the Bishop or the Pope and therefore until the Bishop or the Holy Father grant pardon and restoration of communion the excommunication will not be removed.
TO PINOY REFORMISTA,
ReplyDelete[Sino po yung mga taong nagsasabi na opisyal na naimplemente sa RCC ang batas ng Celibacy sa mga sangkaparian?]
Karaniwang nagsasabi niyan ay ang mga naninira sa Iglesia Catolica. Dahil gusto nilang palabasin na walang Clerical Celibacy bago yung tinatawag nilang opisyal decree.
Kung sino sila, i-research mo na lang. Kasi ang alam kong mga Repormista masipag mag-aral at magsaliksik. He, he, he...
[Ibig niyo po bang sabihin, wala pong pari ang nagasawa noong mga panahon bago ang kunsilyo ng Elvira (303 AD), at nagkaroon lamang ng mga paring may asawa matapos ang kunsilyong ito?]
Hinde. Ang ibig sabihin simula pa ng panahon ni Cristo ang High Priest ng Bagong Tipan ay walang asawa at ang mga Apostol ay walang asawa. Si Pablo ay walang asawa. Si Pedro ay may asawa subalit iniwan nya ang lahat para kay Cristo.
Si Barnabas, Mark, Luke, Timothy at Titus ay pawang walang asawa. Gayon din si Stephen the First Martyr.
Maaari ka bang magbigay sa kin ng pangalan ng Obispo o Pari bago ang Council of Elvira na may asawa?
[Maaari mapagkakatiwalaan at patas na reperensya po ba kayo na makapagpapatunay tungkol sa bagay na iyan?]
Ha, ha, ha... Wala ka palang tiwala sa akin e bakit mo ako tinatanong? Ha, ha, ha...
E di pumunta ka ng mga public libraries at basahin mo ang Catholic Encyclopedia para makita mo ang opisyal na posisyon ng Iglesia Catolica.
Kilala mo kung sino ako at kung ano ako at kung ano ang posisyon ko sa Iglesia Catolica, tapos magtatanong ka ng ganyan. Pasalamat ka nga at sinasagot kita kahit hindi ka nagpapakilala sa akin.
Magkaroon ka naman ng konting 'manners'.
Dear Curious Catholic,
ReplyDelete[pwede po ba makahingi ng kahit konting istorical background tungkol sa pagconvert ng mga Katoliko sa mga Barbarians sa Europe???
kelan po ba ito nangyari??? panahon po ba ito nina attila the hun saka genghis khan???]
Wait lang I will continue my presentations on the Concised History of the Church. Please check the earlier explanations of Church History in the TOPIC LABELS on the right side.
I am hoping that you can visit us here in our school before the of this school year. I would like to meet you personally. Since I can't afford to visit your place father. It is my pleasure.
ReplyDeleteI ask father regarding to the SSPX. You categorize them to the other sect, for the reasons that they hate the POPE, the NOVUS ORDO mass. Now the catholic orthodox not only they hate the pope but they do not recognize the pope as successor of St. Peter can we do the same to them (catholic orthodox)? You says that if the priest refused to celebrate the TLM they must go to the bishop what if the bishop refused to celebrate to that?
Dear Bro. Jeffry,
ReplyDeleteI also hope to see you Bro. Jeff in your school in Davao. May the Lord grant me the grace for that.
Jeff, what do you mean by Catholic Orthodox?
If you are referring to Eastern Rites Catholics they do recognize the Pope as successor of St. Peter. They do not hate him. Unless you mean those pretending to be Eastern Catholics here in the Philippines. They are fakes.
If the Bishop refused to provide a priest for TLM the Holy Father says that the faithful must bring the matter to the Holy See.
Father, can we claim that in 1 timothy 3:2, the speaker(who is probably St. Paul) is speaking to bishops who are already married and is not exactly commanding every bishop to marry?
ReplyDeleteDear Curious Catholic,
ReplyDelete[Father, can we claim that in 1 timothy 3:2, the speaker(who is probably St. Paul) is speaking to bishops who are already married and is not exactly commanding every bishop to marry?]
Yes. Otherwise, the unmarried St. Paul himself will be disqualified as a Bishop. Remember that the Apostles are Bishops. Even Judas Iscariot was a Bishop due to his being an apostle of the Lord: "... and his BISHOPRICK let another take" [Acts 1:20]. We know later that the one who took that Bishopric is St. Matthias.
St. Paul is not married and so did St. Matthias and the other apostles except Peter. Only Peter is mentioned as having a wife. The rest are non-married. INCLUDING THE HIGH PRIEST HIMSELF - THE LORD JESUS.
St. Paul will not implement a rule that will disqualify the LORD JESUS and himself and the rest of the Apostles.
Besides, we do not know who are the married Bishops St. Paul was referring to. It is probable that he is speaking hypothetically or simply presenting the case of Peter as a model. But practically the highest leadership of the Church during the Apostolic Age are CELIBATE.
Also, it is a declaration that if a married Bishop lost his wife throubh death, he cannot marry another. Just like the case of the Eastern Catholics. Their priests can marry before ordination and once they get married they cannot marry another even after the death of a partner. So, the Catholic Church is truly Biblical on this aspect.
yeah!
ReplyDeleteto the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, a big round of applause from me :D
TANONG TUNGKO SA MGA LUMANG KOPYA NG BIBLIA 1
ReplyDelete[regarding the origin of scriptures...
gospel of john po muna; nung isinulat po ba ito nung 90 ad eh may gumawa na po ng marami pang kopya nito?]
Hindi natin egsaktong alam kung ilang kopya ang ginawa nung una. Pero mas kapani-paniwala na isang kopya lang ang nauna. At dahil sa kahalagahan ng unang kopyang ito, maraming mga mananampalataya ang gumawa pa ng kopya upang ito ay ipamahagi rin sa ibat-ibang panig ng Santa Iglesia.
Ang mga scholars ay nagsasabi na ang Evangelio ayon kay San Juan ay dumaan sa maraming proceso tulad ng ibat-ibang editing. Subalit, iisa ang pinagmulan nito. At ang pinagmulan na iyan ay isang taong Judio [dahil marami syang alam sa Israel, kultura man o geograpiya], malapit kay Cristo [dahil maraming mga salita at ginawa si Cristo na binigay niya kahit wala sa ibang Evangelio] at ginagalang sa Santa Iglesia. Kaya talagang napakalaki ng posibilidad na ito ay si Apostol San Juan tulad ng aral ng Iglesia Catolica.
Posible rin na kahit ang nilalaman nito ay galing kay San Juan ang actual na sumulat ay isang magaling na scribano or secretary na may mataas na pinag-aralan dahil ang kanyang pagsusulat ay ayon sa isang manunulat na may mataas na pinag-aralan nuong panahong iyon at hindi pang mangingisda na tulad ni Juan na anak ni Zebedeo.
[or is it safe to say na isa lang ang kopya nito na nag-circulate sa buong iglesia???]
Mas safe na sabihing nag-simula ito sa isang kopya subalit pinalaganap unang una sa pamamagitan ng word of mouth at ang pag-susulat din.
Ito ay binabasa at prino proklama sa mga Misa nuong panahong iyon at itinuturo sa Ketekismo ng Santa Iglesia. At kinopya rin ng iba pang manunulat.
TANONG TUNGKOL SA MGA LUMANG KOPYA NG BIBLIA 2
ReplyDelete[asa vatican po ba ang original na manuscript nito?]
Sa kasawiang palad ang lahat ng original ay sira na dahil ang material na ginamit ay marupok lamang at madaling masira. Ito ay isinulat sa Papyrus material, na madaling mabulok makalipas ang ilang panahon. Hindi pa uso ang modern way of writing nuon. At nakakalungkot din na hindi sa bato nagsulat ang mga Apostol pati na si San Juan.
Subalit ang pinaka-lumang mga kopya ay hawak ng Iglesia Catolica. Ito ay ang Codex Vaticanus na natagpuan sa Vatican ang ngayon ay nasa bantog na Vatican Library. Ito ang pinaka completo sa mga kopya.
Tapos ang Codex Sinaiticus na nakita naman sa Monastery of St. Catherine sa Sinai, Egypt. Subalit ang malaking bahagi nito ay ninakaw ng Protestanteng archeologist na si Constantin von Tischendorf at dinala sa Europa at pinagbili. Ngayon ang bahaging iyon ay nasa British Library sa London at ang iba naman ay nasa St. Catherine Monastery pa rin.
Ang sumunod ay ang Codex Alexandrinus, na nagmula naman sa Patriarchate ng Alexandria. Subalit ito ay patraidor na dinala ng isang Orthodox Bishop sa Europa at ipinagbili. Ngayon ay nakalagak na rin ito sa British Museum.
Subalit ang pinaka matandang kopya at pinaka completo ay ang Codex Vaticanus na nasa kamay ng Iglesia Catolica. At ang dalawa pa ay nagmula rin sa Iglesia Catolica dahil ang St. Catherine at ang Patriarchate of Alexandria ay mga dating kabahagi ng Iglesia Catolica.
Walang bahagi ng Biblia ang nagmula kina Manalo o Eli Soriano. He, he, he...
MERON PANG ISANG MAHALAGANG DOCUMENTO TUNGKOL SA GOSPEL OF JOHN ANG NASA KAMAY NG VATICAN. Ito ay ang BODMER PAPYRUS na naglalaman ng isa sa pinakalumang bahagi ng Gospel of John.
Ang Bodmer Papyrii ay natagpuan sa Pabau, Egypt noong 1952. Nagtataglay ito ng pinaka-lumang copia ang Evangelio ni Juan, Epistula ni Jude, at 1 at 2 Pedro.
Ito ay itinakas ng mga Egyptians na sina Cypriano, Phokio Tano at dinala sa Switzerland kung saan ipinagbili kay Martin Bodmer. Nagpasalin salin ito sa kamay ng ibat-ibang may-ari at noong March 2007 ang Bodmer Paparus XIV-XVI [Papyrus 75] ay kusang ipinagkaloob ni Frank Hanna III kay Pope Benedict XVI bilang regalo, matapos niyang mabili ito noong January 2007 lamang. Napaka laking biyaya nito sa Santa Iglesia Catolica dahil ang mga Papyri na ito ay naglalaman ng Evangelio ni San Lucas at ni San Juan, kung saan naroon ang kumpletong pinaka lumang copia ng OUR FATHER at ng Evangelio ni San Juan. Ang mga ito ay nakalagak ngayon sa VATICAN APOSTOLIC LIBRARY.
[thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!]
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Have a blessed Thursday Fr. Abe, hehehehehehe If these people try to analyze everything they can easily understand what is authentic and what is fake. To till them honestly; First the bible that they have even a single effort to make that precious book they don't have any effort spending time to made it. but rather than that they only have a false prophet namely; the appointed son of demon este of god Apolo C. Quiboloy, Flix "ang sugo" Manalo, Taze Ruzzel ng jehova an erroneous name of God sorry to till you but that is true. We us a Catholic are not boastful that our founder Jesus Christ Himself no Question Mat.16:18. but we are judge by our work done unto Him. Jesus said to us if you love Me Follow My commandments. Meaning we have something to do not by faith alone. Faith and good works towards salvation of the entire human race after the redemption of our lord Jesus Christ. Pro Deo It Ecclessia
ReplyDeletebalita ko po si alex jones na dating protestant pastor ay nagpepetisyon napo sa rome para maging pari sya kahit may asawa na sya,, inaasikaso napo ba ng rome ang lantarang pagpayag sa mga dating protestant pastor na gustong maging pari kahit may asawa na???????
ReplyDeletemagandang araw po!!!!!!! =D
About Alex Jones:
ReplyDeleteActually, it is not something new. Nuon pa man yan na ang batas ng Simbahan. Kapag ang isang tao ay may asawa na bago ordinahan bilang pari tanggap ng Simbahan ang asawa niya tulad ng case ni St. Peter. Ganon din sa mga dating pari ng Anglicans na may asawa. Pag tinanggap sila bilang paring Catolico ay tanggap din ng Simbahan ang asawa nila.
Subalit pag namatay ang asawa nila hindi na sila pwedeng mag-asawa uli.
Nuon pa ganyan na ang batas ng Simbahan. Sa Eastern CAtholics the deacons are getting married first before priesthood. Once naging pari di na pwedeng mag-asawa pa o mag-asawa uli.
ang isang lalaking nabyudo po ba ay pwede pa magpari?????
ReplyDeleteOpo. Pwede po. In fact, may mga cases especially abroad na biyudo na later on inordinahan bilang pari.
ReplyDeleteSubalit, siempre dapat muna siyang dumaan sa formation and requirements ng Obispo para sa Sacramento ng Banal na Orden.