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Emperor Constantine and Empress Helena, protecting the Christian Faith in the Roman Empire Anonymous said...
Dear father,
♀may nagsabi po sa akin na ang tunay na CHURCH was never called Holy Roman Apostolic Catholic Church. the true church is CHURCH of God. The Catholic Church is not founded by Jesus, it is founded of Constantine the Emperor..
♀Ano po ang dapat kong isagot?
January 14, 2010 1:44 PM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
[may nagsabi po sa akin na ang tunay na CHURCH was never called Holy Roman Apostolic Catholic Church. the true church is CHURCH of God.]
The name of our Church is simply THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. We are called Roman Catholic kasi we belong to the WEstern part of the Christian World... the Church of Rome but there are Greek Catholics as well.
The Church of God is only one of the titles of the Church.
The religion founded by Eli Soriano is not Church of God if you don't know. It is named: CHURCH OF GOD INTERNATIONAL. That cannot be found in the Bible.
Then they have many names for their church. They keep on changing it when they are loosing in the Supreme Court. Check this out:
"The organization was formerly known by many names, such as Iglesia Ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH and Church of God in Christ, the Pillar and Ground of the Truth (Mga Kaanib sa Iglesia Ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Inc) among others. It is not related to the many Church of God groups that descended from the Barney Creek Meeting House revival of the late 1800s in the United States. While calling itself a Christian denomination, it is considered to be a cult by nearly all mainstream Christian denominations due to their belief that only the leader of their church (Eliseo Soriano) can interpret and understand the Bible, that Jesus Christ, while "a" god is a lesser god than the Father, and that God is not Omniscient or Omnipresent." [Wikipedia]
As you can see the name of that religion has been CHANGED several times. Then it is only founded by Eliseo Soriano who has nothing to do with Jesus and His Apostles. Don't be deceived by that Satanic cult.
[The Catholic Church is not founded by Jesus, it is founded of Constantine the Emperor..]
That is illogical and stupid.
How did they know? They were not yet existing then. We are the only Christian religion existing during that time.
Much more, how can Constantine be the founder of the Catholic Church when his mother, Helena, later Empress Helena was Catholic even before the birth of Constantine. Actually, the conversion of Constantine and his support of Catholicism and his decision to stop the persecution of Catholics was due to the influence of his saintly mother. In fact, Empress Helena is a CATHOLIC SAINT.
Who comes first the mother or the son? Ha, ha, ha... of course the Mother. So, before Constantine became Emperor or even prior to his birth there was already the Catholic Church - the Church of Rome.
[Ano po ang dapat kong isagot?]
Answer what I have given above.
February 1, 2010 9:34 AM
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You have actually cited Wikipedia? Don't you know how unreliable that source is?
ReplyDeleteThe Wikipedia has more credibility than you. I trust that site more than you. HOW CAN I TRUST YOU AFTER SHOWING ME YOUR IGNORANCE ON BASIC JURISPRUDENCE?
ReplyDeleteLOL You're not updated. You should know that Wikipedia can be edited by anyone in the world to suit their interest. Not less than the CEO of Wikipedia said that using Wikipedia can seriously damage your grades. I may not be trustworthy for you, but Wikipedia is not trustworthy either for a vigilant person in the world. You better do some research regarding this information that I have provided you. Otherwise, continue on using Wikipedia and learn from your own experience. Articles regarding the flaws of Wikipedia is always available online.
ReplyDeleteAll sources in this world have flaws. This post is not about the flaws of Wikipedia. Even though the Wiki has flows you still have to show and prove to me that my quote about MAMA ELI SORIANO is part of those flaws.
ReplyDeleteUnless you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the information I got from the Wiki is erroneous then it is valid unless proven otherwise.
THAT IS WHY MAMA ELI SHOULD COME OUT AND FACE HIS CASE ON THE COURT. AND YOU, YOU SHOULD NOT HIDE A CRIMINAL HIDING FOR HOMOSEXUAL RAPE.
The article was obviously written by a bias author. It is very inaccurate. Most part is a list of alleged criminal cases files in court and does not give real details of what the preacher truly is. We have submitted our fixes to the website in order to make the corrections but an accomplice editor keeps on denying it. You have to make your own research regarding the issue. Otherwise, you can refer to the article that I am writing on my blog as we speak. If you want proof on how unreliable Wikipedia is, I can write an article about you or anyone else associated to your blog as well on Wikipedia itself. Do you want me to do that?
ReplyDelete[The article was obviously written by a bias author.]
ReplyDeleteBetween the two of you it is YOU who is BIASED. You are a supporter of Mama Eli and the article was not written by either supporter or anti-Mama Eli.
[It is very inaccurate.]
In fact, its very clear and precise.
[Most part is a list of alleged criminal cases files in court and does not give real details of what the preacher truly is.]
It means it is OBJECTIVE. It is not written by a biased fan blinded by adoration of Mama Eli and not a Mama Eli-hater as well.
[We have submitted our fixes to the website in order to make the corrections but an accomplice editor keeps on denying it.]
It means that the editor didn't see any credibility and competence from what you have submitted.
It's pretty obvious. No editor of an Encyclopedia will accept correction from an anonymous fanatic. And obviously you are ignorant of basic facts concerning your Mama Eli.
[You have to make your own research regarding the issue.Otherwise, you can refer to the article that I am writing on my blog as we speak.]
WHY DO I HAVE TO RELY ON YOUR ARTICLE? WHO ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU? I DO NOT EVEN KNOW IF YOU ARE A PERSON OR AN ANIMAL HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO TRUST YOU? WHO KNOWS YOU CAN BE SATAN HIMSELF DEFENDING ONE OF YOUR DEMONS.
LET ME CHECK FIRST YOUR IDENTITY AND YOUR COMPETENCFE BEFORE I WILL DO THAT.
[If you want proof on how unreliable Wikipedia is, I can write an article about you or anyone else associated to your blog as well on Wikipedia itself. Do you want me to do that?]
HA, HA, HA... STOP MAKING A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF. YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT THE EDITOR OF WIKIPEDIA DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOUR REQUEST TO EDIT THE TEXTS ABOUT YOUR MAMA ELI. HA, HA, HA... NOW YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN POST IN WIKIPEDIA ABOUT ME. HA, HA, HA...
THE OWNERS OF WIKIPEDIA ARE NOT FOOL LIKE YOU. HE KNOWS THAT HE CAN BE SUBJECTED TO LEGAL CASES IF HE WILL PERMIT THAT. HA, HA, HA...
OK. TRY IT. WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT ME IN THE WIKIPEDIA. BUT PREFER YOUR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR YOUR LEGAL CASES. DO YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN HIDE FROM NBI. HE, HE, HE...
Shoot!
ReplyDeleteget out of it...christianDEFENSELESS!!!
ReplyDeleteFr. Abe is talking of your MAMA ELI's teaching on the church's name...and not the credibility of Wikipedia as a reference!
How dare you to say that? WIKIPEDIA is more credible than your putrid defenses.
and besides...the identity of our faith as the CATHOLIC Church has never changed...unlike your religion who changed to a lot of names. Why? gone defeated in court? Wanting the bible to agree with what you believe...OH COME ON!
Stop being a TOTAL FOOL!
LAUDEATUR IESUS CHRISTUS!!!
-RCDM1017
[Shoot!]
ReplyDeleteHA, HA, HA... KUMAGAT NAMAN ANG BUANG NA ITO. HE HAS ONLY GIVEN US PROOF THAT THE ADD SUPPORTERS LIKE HIM IS WILLING TO DO DIRTY WORKS IN ORDER TO DEFEND THEIR MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST - THE HIDING SODOMITE. HA, HA, HA...
THEY ARE REALLY DEMONIC. IMAGINE, THEY ARE WILLING TO COMMIT A CRIME JUST TO DEFEND THEIR SODOMITE LEADER. HA, HA, HA...
Don't be delusional. I just said that I will create an article about you. However, I haven't expressed what the contents of the article is. Your dirty hands when typing your articles and comments will not be made clean by pointing to other people. You already have an idea of my style of writing. It don't talk trash like you.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I have edited some articles from Wikipedia to prove to you that anyone can edit it. Of course, it is your prerogative to edit whatever article you like. You're lucky that I didn't place your name on controversial articles.
Try searching the word "killer" and you will see your name at the end of the article. Keep up your trash talk and push me to the limit. You're doing a great job.
HA, HA, HA... THIS ADD BLOGGER HAS JUST PROVEN TO US HOW MASTERFUL HE IS IN THE ART OF DECEPTION. HA, HA, HA...
ReplyDeleteWHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO ME? THAT I WILL GO HIDING. C'MMON. YOUR ACTIONS AND YOUR REASONING ARE DOING MORE HARM TO ADD AND TO YOUR SODOMITE LEADER THAN ME.
I WANT TO PUSH YOU TO THE LIMIT SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW EVIL YOU CAN BECOME.
I AM LIVING IN PEACE IN THIS BLOG AND YOU ARE THE ONE BOTHERING ME WITH YOUR SUPPORTERS HURLING INSULTS THEN WHEN WE FIRED BACK USING YOUR LANGUAGE YOU ARE BEING HURT HA. HA, HA, HA... AND THE MORE YOU ARE HURT THE MORE EVIL YOU CAN BECOME. SO THAT YOU WANT TO MANIPULATE THE WIKI TO SHOW HOW EVIL YOU ARE AND THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING JUST TO PROTECT THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST -- MAMA ELI.
YOU CAN HIDE YOUR IDENTITY TO ME BUT NOT TO GOD WHO SEES EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DOING. YOU ARE AS IMMORAL, AS EVIL, AS CUNNING AND AS COWARDLY AS YOUR MAMA ELI... YOU CAN HIDE IN HELL TOGETHER.
You are free to hallucinate all you want. As far as I know, I've noticed this blog because of an article you have written concerning ADD and I can't just keep quiet about it. Your trash talks has done more damage to your credibility than it has done to anyone else. Instead of apologizing to gain our respect, you choose the dirty way.
ReplyDeleteMore articles is to come on other websites other than Wikipedia containing your name. On the other hand, I think I have proven my case that Wikipedia can be edited by anyone in the world. It is actually an encyclopedia wherein you can be an authority even if you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Seeing your name on an article makes me laugh. However, you can delete that passage now if it annoys you.
HA, HA, HA... NO NEED TO DELETE IT. LET THEM STAY WHERE THEY ARE. THEY WILL BEAR TESTIMONY AGAINST YOUR SOUL IN THE DAY OF THE LORD.
ReplyDeleteKABAGO-BAGO NG RELIGION NYO PURO NA KABULUKAN ANG INYONG PINAG-GAGAWA.
LIKE FOUNDER LIKE SUPPORTERS... HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST AND SODOMIST.
Republic of the Philipppines
ReplyDeleteSUPREME COURT
Manila
FIRST DIVISION
[G.R. No. 137592. December 12, 2001]
ANG MGA KAANIB SA IGLESIA NG DIOS KAY KRISTO HESUS, H.S.K. SA BANSANG PILIPINAS, INC. Petitioner, vs. IGLESIA NG DIOS KAY CRISTO JESUS, HALIGI AT SUHAY NG KATOTOHANAN, respondent.
THE SUPREME COURT LINK FOR THE ABOVEMENTIONED CASE: http://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2001/dec2001/137592.htm
THE FACTS OF THE CASE ARE AS FOLLOWS:
WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL NAME OF THE CHURCH REGISTERED BY SORIANO?
Respondent Iglesia ng Dios Kay Cristo Jesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan (Church of God in Christ Jesus, the Pillar and Ground of Truth),[4] is a non-stock religious society or corporation registered in 1936.
QUOTE:
Sometime in 1976, one Eliseo Soriano and several other members of respondent corporation disassociated themselves from the latter and succeeded in registering on March 30, 1977 a new non-stock religious society or corporation, named Iglesia ng Dios Kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan.
WHY ELISEO'S CHURH'S NAME CHANGED? WAS IT BECAUSE SORIANO THOUGHT THAT SUCH NAME IS NOT THE BIBLICAL NAME OF THE CHURCH IN THE BIBLE? BASA...
On July 16, 1979, respondent corporation filed with the SEC a petition to compel the Iglesia ng Dios Kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan to change its corporate name, which petition was docketed as SEC Case No. 1774. On May 4, 1988, the SEC rendered judgment in favor of respondent, ordering the Iglesia ng Dios Kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan to change its corporate name to another name that is not similar or identical to any name already used by a corporation, partnership or association registered with the Commission.[5] No appeal was taken from said decision.
It appears that during the pendency of SEC Case No. 1774, Soriano, et al., caused the registration on April 25, 1980 of petitioner corporation, Ang Mga Kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios Kay Kristo Hesus, H.S.K., sa Bansang Pilipinas. The acronym “H.S.K.” stands for Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan.[6]
WHY SORIANO IS NO LONGER USING THE NAME "ANG MGA KAANIB SA IGLESIA NG DIOS KAY KRISTO HESUS Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan SA BANSANG PILIPINAS?
We need not belabor the fourth issue raised by petitioner. Certainly, ordering petitioner to change its corporate name is not a violation of its constitutionally guaranteed right to religious freedom. In so doing, the SEC merely compelled petitioner to abide by one of the SEC guidelines in the approval of partnership and corporate names, namely its undertaking to manifest its willingness to change its corporate name in the event another person, firm, or entity has acquired a prior right to the use of the said firm name or one deceptively or confusingly similar to it.
MY COMMENT:
Akala ko Divine Revelation yung pagpapalit ng pangalan ng Corporation or simabahan ni Soriano, utos pala ng SEC..."AND I TELL YOU, THAT I AM ELI, AND UPON THIS DECISION OF THE SEC AND SUPREME COURT, I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH...AYAN OH! KLARONG KLARO...NAKASULAT! SABI NGA NI BRO. ELI, HUWAG HIHIGIT SA BAGAY NA...NASUSULAT."
You don't really understand what I did say. I didn't even say that I will delete the passage myself. I have suggested that you have the power to delete it yourself just to prove that what I'm saying about the unreliability of Wikipedia is true.
ReplyDeleteWhat a pity that a Catholic Priest who doesn't care to trash talk accuses us of being rotten. Try to find the meaning of the phrase "trash talk" on Wikipedia and it also has your name on it. According to Wikipedia, "Trash-talk has been popularized in the world of blogging to describe how a Catholic Priest, Abraham Arganiosa behaves when he writes his articles. The priest is known for hurling insulting words on the Internet in the World of Religious Apologetic."
If you don't believe me that Abraham Arganiosa popularized the use of trash talk, check on Wikipedia and it's right there. If you don't believe that Abe Arganiosa is a killer, refer to Wikipedia. Very Funny! I'm writing several articles about this. I'm also thinking of exposing this to the International Media if appropriate.
Thank you Anonymous for giving us a copy of that Supreme Court decision concerning the religion invented by MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST - THE COWARDLY SODOMITE. He, he, he...
ReplyDeleteIt is very appropriate because the Power of the Court is Tetanus to the life and credebility of MAMA ELI THE SODOMITE. Ha, ha, ha...
TO DEFENDER OF MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST:
ReplyDeleteWell, I have checked the Wiki and check on the words that you have mentioned but I didn't find what you are claiming there.
Whether you succeed or not I don't care. Ha, ha, ha... that evil acts will rebound to you and your group. People will search about my works and they will find out how I have shown the stupidities of MAMA ELI SORIANO THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST AND COWARDLY SODOMITE and her supporters led by this EQUALLY COWARDLY BLOGGER. Ha, ha, ha....
Speaking of Trash Talks. Don't pretend as if you are clean. YOU ARE LIKE A PROSTITUE CLAIMING TO BE A VIRGIN. Ha, ha, ha... MAMA ELI SORIANO THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST is famous for his THRASH TALKS. She regularly hurls insults like: GAGO, TARANTADO, BOBO, TANGA, ESTUPIDO... HA, HA, HA.... Yet, her trash talks are OK FOR YOU. They are music to your ears.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE LEARNED OUR LESSONS. SINCE YOU ARE TREATING OTHERS THAT WAY. THEN IT IS BUT PROPER AND JUST TO GIVE YOU THE HAPPINESS OF THE SAME DEGREE. HA, HA, HA...
C'MMON, C'MMON DEFENDER OF MAMA ELI SORIANO THE SODOMITE. MAKE ME KNOWN, MAKE ME POPULAR IN THE WEB INTERNATIONALLY. YOU WILL SEE THAT YOUR COWARDLY LEADER WILL BE INTERNATIONALLY BE REFERRED TO AS MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST AND SODOMITE.
THE MORE YOU DESTROY ME, THE MORE YOU ARE DESTROYING YOURSELVES.
Supreme Court records only prove and show how the church of ADDdefender was founded, with that factual basis only concludes that the church itself was not the true church founded by Jesus on the 1st century AD and has not relation with the first church. . . Bulaga sila ano. . .
ReplyDeleteWhether you succeed or not I don't care. Ha, ha, ha... that evil acts will rebound to you and your group. People will search about my works and they will find out how I have shown the stupidities of MAMA ELI SORIANO THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST AND COWARDLY SODOMITE and her supporters led by this EQUALLY COWARDLY BLOGGER. Ha, ha, ha....
ReplyDeleteAegis-Judex: Amen to that!
Speaking of Trash Talks. Don't pretend as if you are clean. YOU ARE LIKE A PROSTITUE CLAIMING TO BE A VIRGIN. Ha, ha, ha... MAMA ELI SORIANO THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST is famous for his THRASH TALKS. She regularly hurls insults like: GAGO, TARANTADO, BOBO, TANGA, ESTUPIDO... HA, HA, HA.... Yet, her trash talks are OK FOR YOU. They are music to your ears.
Aegis-Judex: Who couldn't remember MAMA ELI scream, "MGA GAGOOOOO, MGA BOBOOOOO, AT TARANTADOOOOO SILA!!!"
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE LEARNED OUR LESSONS. SINCE YOU ARE TREATING OTHERS THAT WAY. THEN IT IS BUT PROPER AND JUST TO GIVE YOU THE HAPPINESS OF THE SAME DEGREE. HA, HA, HA...
Aegis-Judex: Also known as "getting the gloves off."
C'MMON, C'MMON DEFENDER OF MAMA ELI SORIANO THE SODOMITE. MAKE ME KNOWN, MAKE ME POPULAR IN THE WEB INTERNATIONALLY. YOU WILL SEE THAT YOUR COWARDLY LEADER WILL BE INTERNATIONALLY BE REFERRED TO AS MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST AND SODOMITE.
Aegis-Judex: Yeah, THAT'S how it happens!
THE MORE YOU DESTROY ME, THE MORE YOU ARE DESTROYING YOURSELVES.
Aegis-Judex: Fr. Abe, one of ChristianAccuser's people wanted me dead. My taunt is in my blog.
Fr Abe, pls see www.scripturecatholic.com, for sure po, makakatulon yon....im also using that site to defend Catholic faitha against heretics...
ReplyDeleteOpo. Im aware na po sa www.scripturecatholic.com of Bro. John Salza.
ReplyDeleteFr Abe, gusto ko po sanang maging Catholic Faith defender din tulad ninyo....paano po yon? eto po email add ko...
ReplyDeleteI GOT YOUR E-MAIL. I WILL SEND YOU MESSAGE ASAP. GOD BLESS YOU.
ReplyDeleteFather Abe, magandang araw po. Paano p ba maging CFD. Nandito po ako sa Saudi Arabia at nakikita ko po na maraming mga kababayan po natin na nalilinlang sa mga muslim. Kaya ko po idepensa ang sarili ko sa panlilinlang nila dahil po sa buo po ang pananampalataya ko sa Diyos at sa relihiyon ko pero mas mainam po sana kung maidepensa ko rin Biblically ang iba dahil ang mga muslim po magaling sila pagdating sa panlilinlang. Kung may sapat po akong kaalaman sa Bibliya kahit papaano po mamakatulong po ako na di sila mapunta sa maling landas. Sana po matulongan nyo po ako. Eto po email ko...... alam ko po na medyo nasa delikado po ang kalagayan ko dito kung sakali man na makikipagbalitaktakan po ako laban sa kanila, pero alam ko rin naman na di po ako pababayaan ng Diyos at sya na po ang bahala sa akin dito.
ReplyDeleteMaraming Salamat Po.
MCA
Dear MCA,
ReplyDeletePraise the Lord for giving you the courage to stand for our Catholic Faith even though you are in one of the most dangerous countries in the world when in comes to practicing our Faith.
At this time since you are in Saudi mahirap para sa iyo ang magmiembro ng CFD, kung ikaw ay Bisaya or DFF [Catholic Faith Defenders] if you are in Luzon area. Kasi personal ang mga training sessions nila e.
Subalit kahit nandiyan ka ay pwede kang mag-aral ng Apologetics para sagutin ang acusations ng mga Muslim. You can read the Blog of Bro. Cenon Bible, maraming materials duon answering the claims of Islam: http://tumbukin-natin.blogspot.com/. Pwede mo ring hanapin ang website ni Daniel Ali, ang isang Iraqi professor na naging Catholic.
what is membership of Bro Soriano church. no church directory. no information on membership and its budget.All churches should give its membership. its budgets, and church directory.
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