Thursday, May 20, 2010

CHARICE, Our International Singer, IS A CONVERT FROM THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO WITH HER MOTHER AND BROTHER!

People mag gives Charice's CD a 2.5-star rating
(The Philippine Star) Updated May 20, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - After reading a positive review given to Charice’s eponymous debut US album by a People mag music critic, I will promptly listen to the complimentary copy sent to me by Warner Music. The review, reprinted below in full, is accompanied by a ‘with-it’ photo of Charice’s (above):

If ever one note could make an album, then it may be the very last one Charice — the YouTube phenom who just made her fourth appearance on Oprah — hits on her self-titled debut. Her big moment comes on the Diane Warren ballad Note to God, which finds the 18-year-old Filipina reaching for heavens, backed by a gospel choir. A powerhouse performance, it’s the stuff of a young Celine, Whitney or Mariah. But Charice is torn between being a begowned diva and acting her age on songs like the Iyaz-assisted single Pyramid, which sounds more like something off a Jordin Sparks CD.

By the way, for the information of Funfare readers asking why Charice and her brother Carl are being baptized only now (on Saturday, May 22, at the Pasig Cathedral): The siblings were members of the Iglesia ni Kristo until their mom, Raquel, decided to be converted to Roman Catholicism. Thus, their baptism as Catholics.

67 comments:

  1. I thought all along they were Catholic , because they were shown going to Quiapo Church before to pray for thanksgiving.

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  2. I think Mommy Raquel is not a convert from INC to Catholic, but she was a Catholic converted to INC and decided to go back to Catholic. =)))

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  3. Charice has come home!!!
    No words are enough to praise God for this!!!

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  4. Thank you Father for sharing this good news!

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  5. welcome to the fold:)

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  6. OK. Let us check on that. In any way it is the same good news for us. Besides, Charice and her brother are truly converts because it is only now that they will receive genuine Christian Baptism.

    I was also told that this is one of the major reasons why they are in conflict with their grandmother and why her father refused to accept her and let her use Pempengco as surname.

    Thanks.

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  7. [I thought all along they were Catholic , because they were shown going to Quiapo Church before to pray for thanksgiving.]

    They return to Catholic practices after leaving INC. Only later they realized that Charice and her brother are not yet Baptized in the Catholic Church. Better late than never.

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  8. [Thank you Father for sharing this good news!]

    YOu are welcome Bro. Catholic Defender. It is our duty to report positive news to our brethren. Kasi akala natin tayo lang ang nalalagasan e. Hindi lang natin inaanounce ang mga conversions sa atin.

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  9. It is here where I first seen this info...and that I verified it in Katolikong Pinoy's Facebook page. Thanks for posting this, Father...and for Sister Charice, WELCOME HOME!!!

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  10. Hello Fr. Abe, I am an avid Charice fan here and i am familiar with a lot of the details of Charice's life and activities.

    They have been Catholics for a long time now. Charice's mom was originally a Catholic and became an INC member because her husband is one. But they separated early on due to domestic violence and the mom decided to revert to becoming a Catholic.

    So indirectly, Charice and her brother have been living their life as Catholics until they realized the need to be baptized officially as Catholics.


    I am posting a link here that pretty much explains the background of their religious affiliation. But do read Charice's story as it is very good read and it is an inspiring story as well for anyone!

    http://www.charicemania.com/2010/05/20/announcements/yes-looking-back-part-2/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Charice+%28Charice%29

    -from Chatholic (Charice + Catholic)

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  11. Fr. Abe, here is a video in YouTube of what Charice keeps in her handbag. A Rosary.

    This interview was for a TV show called SNN (Showbiz Now Na), called the Bag Raid segment, where they interview celebrities and pry into what stuff they have in their bags or purse, for fun and entertainment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evjZe1przkM

    It was taken last November 2009 in Fish and Company Restaurant in Edsa Shangri-la Plaza Mall, for a product launch.



    -Chatholic

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  12. Fr. Abe,

    Here's another video of Charice singing O Holy Night in a public Mass in a church somewhere in Tagaytay in Dec 2008(where she lives) during Communion.

    Since Charice's fans span all nationalities and religious affiliations,they watch whatever vids she has on the net. So some are unfamiliar with the communion process during the Mass, that's why some commenters of the vid were saying how rude the people were for showing 'disrespect' to her singing by just walking in front of her and stuff.

    Isnt charice nice? Singing an epic Christmas song out of the blue in a public Mass. Many of her international fans have said that Charice's version of O Holy Night is one of the best renditions ever, comparable to the versions sung by Celine Dion. Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwfi-FF_YTo


    -Chatholic

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  13. Dear Anonymous, thank you for giving us more information about her conversion story.

    So, domestic violence pala ang ginawa ng Tatay na INC. Ano kaya ginawa ng INC dun sa Tatay? Tiniwalag kaya for doing domestic violence? Imagine, sasaktan nya ang asawa't anak nya? Kawawa naman sina Charice.

    Buti na lang Catholic na sila ngayon. Otherwise, the INC will get 10% of the millions of dollars income of Charice from abroad. God is good. Iniligtas sila sa domestic violence at sa financial violence. He, he, he...

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  14. Fr. Abe, call me Chatholic, not Anonymous, hehe. It's my pleasure sharing what I know about Charice here.

    Anyway, here are pictures of Charice's baptism being posted on the fly by ABS CBN's Karen Davila in TweetPhoto. Click the arrows to scroll through the pics. :) More pics will be posted as the event continues...do go back to the link for updated pics.

    http://tweetphoto.com/23393087

    http://tweetphoto.com/23398707

    http://tweetphoto.com/23394336

    http://tweetphoto.com/user/3530170

    -Chatholic

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  15. Dear Chatholic,

    Thank you so very very much.

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  16. I also posted my own blog about it in MSAG:

    http://mediasocietyandgod.blogspot.com/2010/05/goin-to-top-with-god-on-charice-going.html

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  17. Fr. Abe, Chatholic here, here's a link and text from Philippine Daily Inquirer

    http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/breakingnews/breakingnews/view/20100522-271486/Charice-baptized-into-Catholic-Church


    Charice baptized into Catholic Church

    By Pocholo Concepcion
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 19:59:00 05/22/2010

    Filed Under: Religion & Belief, Religions, Celebrities

    MANILA, Philippines—“Get some chocolates, now!” barked the priest’s assistant to an acolyte midway into the baptism and confirmation of Charice Pempengco and her brother Carl Saturday morning at the Immaculate Conception Cathedral in Pasig.

    Moments later, the acolyte rushed back with a pack of Hershey’s Kisses, and the assistant gave some to the presiding clergyman, the Most Rev. Francisco San Diego, the bishop of the Diocese of Pasig.

    With a smile, Bishop San Diego apologized: “I’m sorry for the delay. I was having hypoglycemia [low blood sugar attack].

    The incident hardly caused a stir, as the sweltering heat in the baptismal font area of the church drove people to fan themselves briskly, while some tried shutting their eyes intermittently to avoid distraction.

    In the middle of the room sat the Pempengco siblings— Charice looking solemn in a formal white dress, and Carl sporting a more casual attire in similar color.

    Surrounding them were a power cast of more than 20 pairs of godparents led by a contingent from ABS-CBN: network president Charo Santos; producer Laurenti Dyogi; “The Buzz” hosts Boy Abunda and Kris Aquino; segment host and radio personality Jobert Sucaldito; “TV Patrol” news anchors Karen Davila and Julius Babao; and Star Records boss Annabelle Regalado-Borja.

    US entertainment mogul Oprah Winfrey and Canadian record producer David Foster, two principal sponsors who played a major role in Charice’s ascent to international stardom, couldn’t make the flight to attend the ceremony.

    Instead Winfrey sent her own TV crew to document the proceedings.

    CONTINUED...

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  18. ...CONTINUATION

    Behind the Pempengcos sat their mother, Raquel, who spoke to the Inquirer and explained why she’s having her children baptized in Catholic rites only now.

    Raquel Relucio said she, too, was a baptized Catholic but converted to the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) when she married Ricky Pempengco, who was a member of INC.

    The children were baptized in INC when they were born.

    For two years Mrs. Pempengco said she regularly attended INC worship services, until marital discord forced her to leave the house with her kids.

    When she moved to another address, she failed to submit the transfer records required by the INC, which resulted in her name being declared “missing from the list.”

    That was 15 years ago. “Matagal na akong tiwalag sa INC (I have long been separated from INC),” she said.

    Charice was only 3 when her mother struggled to fend for themselves. “At the time I really wanted her and Carl to be baptized again as Catholics,” Mrs. Pempengco pointed out. “But I thought it was not possible if we were not a complete family and money was scarce.”

    It was only recently, she added, when she tried asking Bishop San Diego about baptizing her children and the latter agreed to administer the sacrament at the Pasig Cathedral.

    Charice is fond of the church because she once played an angel during Easter vigil rites there, said Mrs. Pempengco.

    After the baptism and confirmation ceremony, Charice proceeded to the church quadrangle where hundreds of children sang in loud voices, “Happy birthday to you!”

    The international pop star, who turned 18 recently, decided to forego a lavish reception and instead brought food to the children, residents of 10 barangays around the parish, who were also under the care of the church’s soup kitchen program.

    The celebrated singer, whose self-titled US debut CD is currently at No. 8 on Billboard’s Top 200 album chart in its first week of release, happily sang an a cappella version of her hit single, “Pyramid.”

    When the kids screamed for more, she obliged with “We Are the World.”

    As she looked around her, she was reminded of her own childhood years.

    In one corner stood 12-year-old Ma. Hadassa Macaranas of Barangay San Nicolas, visibly awed by the performance. “Charice is a good singer,” she said. “I want to be like her.”





    (Hope everything is clearer now,Fr. Abe, and fellow readers -Chatholic) :)

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  19. CONTINUATION



    Behind the Pempengcos sat their mother, Raquel, who spoke to the Inquirer and explained why she’s having her children baptized in Catholic rites only now.

    Raquel Relucio said she, too, was a baptized Catholic but converted to the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) when she married Ricky Pempengco, who was a member of INC.

    The children were baptized in INC when they were born.

    For two years Mrs. Pempengco said she regularly attended INC worship services, until marital discord forced her to leave the house with her kids.

    When she moved to another address, she failed to submit the transfer records required by the INC, which resulted in her name being declared “missing from the list.”

    That was 15 years ago. “Matagal na akong tiwalag sa INC (I have long been separated from INC),” she said.

    Charice was only 3 when her mother struggled to fend for themselves. “At the time I really wanted her and Carl to be baptized again as Catholics,” Mrs. Pempengco pointed out. “But I thought it was not possible if we were not a complete family and money was scarce.”

    It was only recently, she added, when she tried asking Bishop San Diego about baptizing her children and the latter agreed to administer the sacrament at the Pasig Cathedral.

    Charice is fond of the church because she once played an angel during Easter vigil rites there, said Mrs. Pempengco.

    After the baptism and confirmation ceremony, Charice proceeded to the church quadrangle where hundreds of children sang in loud voices, “Happy birthday to you!”

    The international pop star, who turned 18 recently, decided to forego a lavish reception and instead brought food to the children, residents of 10 barangays around the parish, who were also under the care of the church’s soup kitchen program.

    The celebrated singer, whose self-titled US debut CD is currently at No. 8 on Billboard’s Top 200 album chart in its first week of release, happily sang an a cappella version of her hit single, “Pyramid.”

    When the kids screamed for more, she obliged with “We Are the World.”

    As she looked around her, she was reminded of her own childhood years.

    In one corner stood 12-year-old Ma. Hadassa Macaranas of Barangay San Nicolas, visibly awed by the performance. “Charice is a good singer,” she said. “I want to be like her.”



    (hope everything is clearer now Fr. Abe and fellow readers -Chatholic :) )

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  20. Thank you very much Chatholic. Yes, its clearer now. God bless you.

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  21. fan panaman ako ni charice tpos lilipat lng sya ng katoliko baliw ka charice kainis ka mamalasin ka dyan ..

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  22. Kaya nga sila sinuwerte kasi Catholic na sya. Tignan mo ang mga INC na artista hanggang pang extra lang sa Pilipinas.

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  23. @"Fr." Abe, why do you speak that way? you sound like just another stupid persecutor of another Faith. which makes you no better, but worse, don't YOU think? are you really a catholic "Fr."????

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  24. oh, it says after one has commented that it will be visible after approval.. so as to show only what's good for you,eh? and not what people really want to say and be heard. so sad.

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  25. money and fame are worldly things. if a "priest" failed to realize, that is.

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  26. "Fr." Abe, CRS said...

    Kaya nga sila sinuwerte kasi Catholic na sya. Tignan mo ang mga INC na artista hanggang pang extra lang sa Pilipinas.<<< not exactly the way you'd want a "father" to respond. tsk.tsk. persecuting another's Faith to beautify yours.

    anyway, i'm just saying what i think of a particular priest, not entirely..(like what he did):

    "So, domestic violence pala ang ginawa ng Tatay na INC. Ano kaya ginawa ng INC dun sa Tatay? Tiniwalag kaya for doing domestic violence? Imagine, sasaktan nya ang asawa't anak nya? Kawawa naman sina Charice.

    Buti na lang Catholic na sila ngayon. Otherwise, the INC will get 10% of the millions of dollars income of Charice from abroad. God is good. Iniligtas sila sa domestic violence at sa financial violence. He, he, he..."

    -----and he thinks it's funny for a "priest" to say such things. so sad. ignorance of the truth i must say. where'd you get 10% anyway? have you done the math, professor? what formula did you use? o_O


    i believe this comment shall be visible. unless you'd choose only those favorable, and disregard what people really want to say.

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  27. [i believe this comment shall be visible. unless you'd choose only those favorable, and disregard what people really want to say.]

    THERE'S YOUR VISIBILITY.

    IF YOU ARE NOT ASHAMED OF THE INC MEMBER, MR. PEMPENCO, WHO MALTREATED HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN AND INSTEAD VENT YOUR IRE ON ME. C'MMON. DO SO.

    SO, AN ABUSER IS FINDING HIS HOME IN INC.

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  28. [money and fame are worldly things. if a "priest" failed to realize, that is.]

    MONEY IS WORLDLY FOR CHARICE BUT IT IS NOT WORLDLY IF THEY ARE BEING RECEIVED BY THE MANALO'S THROUGH TITHING. TELL ME WHY IS IT THAT THE MONEY USED FOR THE SALARIES OF THE INC PASTORS ARE BEING BLESSED? WHY? SO, YOU ARE BLESSINGS WORLDLY THINGS. HA, HA, HA...

    CHARICE WORKED USING HER GOD-GIVEN TALENT. SHE DESERVES HER MONEY AND FAME. SHE BECAME FAMOUS NOT THROUGH FOUL MEANS. SHE IS A DECENT PERSON. SO, WHAT'S THE FUSS. ARE YOU ENVIOUS BECAUSE SHE BECAME CATHOLIC? HA, HA, HA...

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  29. [oh, it says after one has commented that it will be visible after approval.. so as to show only what's good for you,eh? and not what people really want to say and be heard. so sad.]

    BEFORE YOU HALLUCINATE PURIFY YOUR IMAGINATIONS FIRST.

    I WAS IN MANILA FOR TWO DAYS THAT IS WHY I FAILED TO ACTIVATE OR APPROVED YOUR MESSAGES.

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  30. [@"Fr." Abe, why do you speak that way? you sound like just another stupid persecutor of another Faith. which makes you no better, but worse, don't YOU think? are you really a catholic "Fr."????]

    WE CONDEMN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WHETHER THE PERPETRATOR IS A CATHOLIC OR INC OR BORN AGAIN. HOW ABOUT YOU? ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR NOT? IF YOU ARE NOT YOU SHOULD ALSO RAISE YOUR VOICE AGAINST IT REGARDLESS OF THE RELIGION OF THE ABUSER.

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  31. LET HER HAVE HER MONEY!

    obviously, and evidently, INC has grown and spread and will continue to do so, because God blessed It. INC is blessed in so many ways and the RC? who's envious now?

    ...

    "SO, YOU ARE BLESSINGS WORLDLY THINGS. HA, HA, HA..."

    --you even managed to laugh it off, huh? when there's no point. there's no such thing to INC as tithing. do your research homework. be credible enough to say things which are believable.

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  32. @FR. ABE: RESEARCH PO MUNA KAYO. WALA PONG SENSE EH. MALI MALI INFO NU... HAHAHAHA... TSKA F MY NGKASALA PO NA INC MEMBER, HOW MUCH MORE PA KAYA UNG SA R.C... HAHAHA..

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  33. [obviously, and evidently, INC has grown and spread and will continue to do so, because God blessed It. INC is blessed in so many ways and the RC? who's envious now?]

    OBVIOUSLY AND EVIDENTLY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS GROWN AND HAS SPREAD MORE THAN INC AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE GOD HAS BLESSED IT. THE INC IS A PIECE OF JUNK INCOMPARISON WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HOW CAN WE BE ENVIOUS OF A RELIGION WHO IS NOTHING IN COMPARISON TO US. YOUR CENTRAL OFFICE IS NOT EVEN GOOD TO BE A RESTROOM IN VATICAN CITY.

    [you even managed to laugh it off, huh? when there's no point. there's no such thing to INC as tithing. do your research homework. be credible enough to say things which are believable.]

    HA, HA, HA... OBVIOUSLY AND EVIDENTLY YOU CAN LIE THROUGH YOUR TEETH.

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  34. NAKU, STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF. IF YOU CAN LIE THROUGH YOUR TEETH CONCERNING YOUR TITHING AND THE FACT THAT THE MANALOS ARE THE BUSINESS OWNERS OF YOUR RELIGION THEN BETTER MAKE YOUR RESEARCH. HE, HE, HE...

    CHARICE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION TO ABANDON YOUR HERETICAL SECT.

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  35. I added this to my blog as well and took the liberty of changing the title:

    http://defender-vindicator.blogspot.com/2010/05/redemption-of-charice-and-family-from.html

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  36. Welcome Home Charice!

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  37. @FR. ABE: RESEARCH PO MUNA KAYO. WALA PONG SENSE EH. MALI MALI INFO NU... HAHAHAHA... TSKA F MY NGKASALA PO NA INC MEMBER, HOW MUCH MORE PA KAYA UNG SA R.C... HAHAHA..

    Fr. Abe what is your opinion on the above comments?

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  38. OUR RESEARCH THAT CHARICE, HER BROTHER AND MOTHER WERE PHYSICALLY ABUSED BY HER FATHER WHO IS AN INC MEMBER IS TRUE AND CORRECT. AND IT IS EQUALLY TRUE THAT CHARICE AND HER MOTHER AND BROTHER LEFT THE INC BECAUSE THE ABUSIVE FATHER WAS NOT CORRECTED BY THE INC. EVEN THOUGH THE INC CLAIMS THAT THEY ARE EXPELLING THE SINNERS IN THEIR GROUP.

    KUNG MARAMING MAKASALANAN NA CATOLICO MAS MARAMI ANG CATOLICONG MABUTI. HALOS LAHAT NG MGA DOCTOR, TEACHERS, SCIENTISTS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS AT IBA PA SA PILIPINAS AY MGA CATOLICO. KAHIT SAMPUNG DOBLE PA ANG INC KAYA NAMIN SILANG HIGITAN NG BILANG NG MGA MABUBUTING CATOLICO. ANG INC AY INUTIL AT WALANG NAITULONG SA PAGBUO NG KADAKILAAN NG BANSANG PILIPINAS AT NG BUONG DAIGDIG. THE INC IS NOTHING INCOMPARISON WITH THE GOOD THINGS DONE BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. IT IS GARBAGE INCOMPARISON WITH OUR ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

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  39. Wag nyo na po patulan ang mga hirit ng mga INC father abe. the more na patulan nyo, sasagot at sasagot sila until they drag you down to their level.

    I'm a former Catholic who converted to another religion but i will continue to pay respect to the catholic church because it provided me my spiritual foundation.

    as for the INC, blind obedience will do more bad than good. a family-run religion is a business in disguise. that's the reality of it.

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  40. Let's set it straight:
    1.Walang tithing sa doktrina ng INC
    2.Hindi INC si Charice. Baptism in INC is only for those 10yrs old and above and had undergone 22 lessons + 6 months of continuous church service attendance + passing oral test on doctrines. Charice was only 3 yrs old when her mother left the INC.
    3. Maraming nga sigurong good citizen members ang RC pero in terms of percentage of RC membership, ilan kaya? Baka wala pang 1percent.
    4.Mas mabaho at nilulumot ang mga churches ng RC. Ang toilet ng INC churches pwede mo ng bedroom Fr. Abe- ang linis.
    5. Yung mga RC churches sa Europe, walang tao-pang tourist attraction lang. Mas madami pa nagsisimba sa Quiapo.
    6. Mahihirap lang mga INC (sa tingin nyo) pero ang mga Church nila hindi galing sa PCSO, hweteng lord, PAGCOR, at politiko. Hindi rin sa alkansyang santo na iginagala kahit sa mga Mall. Puro sariling sikap to. Taos pusong abuloy-walang pilitan at batay sa aral ng bibliya.
    7. Sa RC me bayad ang kasal, binyag, kumpil, basbas sa patay at mga ipinagbibiling relikya na pinagkakakitaan. Sa Iglesia wala mga yan.Puro abuloy lang tuwing pagsamba. Kaya nyo ba yun? Pag me na abuloy na mayaman sa RC pinanapa diario pa. Nkakahiya sa Dios.
    5. Mas maraming sex offender sa RC- mga baklang pari. Pina excommunicate nyo ba? o kino cover up ng simbahan? Once a priest always a priest?

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  41. [Let's set it straight:]

    OK. LET'S SET IT STRAIGHT.

    [1.Walang tithing sa doktrina ng INC]

    HA, HA, HA... IPOKRITO. KAYA PALA OBLIGADO KAYO NA MAG-IKAPU. HA, HA, HA... D'YAN PA LANG WALA NA KAYONG CREDIBILIDAD.

    [2.Hindi INC si Charice.]

    INC IS CHARICE NUON. NGAYON HINDI NA. HE, HE, HE...

    INC SYA NUON KASI ANG KANYANG MGA MAGULANG AY INC MEMBERS AT YUN ANG PANANAMPALATAYANG KANYANG TAGLAY NUON. NGAYON HINDI NA KASI INIWAN AT ISINUKA NA NILANG MAG-IINA ANG INC DAHIL HINDI SILA TINULUNGAN MULA SA KANYANG AMANG NANG-AABUSO SA KANILA.

    [ Baptism in INC is only for those 10yrs old and above and had undergone 22 lessons + 6 months of continuous church service attendance + passing oral test on doctrines.]

    SO, ANONG RELIHIYON NG MGA ANAK NG INC MEMBERS NA WALA PANG 10 YEAR OLD, SATANISMO? ANONG RELIHIYON NILA? HA, HA, HA...

    SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA 10 YEAR OLD LANG DAPAT BINYAGAN. SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA YUNG 22 LESSONS AT 6 MONTHS ATTENDANCE? SAAN?

    IBIG SABIHIN PALA E BAGO BINYAGAN DAPAT AY MAY 6 MONTHS NECESSARY CHURCH ATTENDANCE. IBIG SABIHIN ANG INYONG CHURCH AY INAATENAN NG MGA PAGANO DAHIL HINDI PA SILA NABIBINYAGAN. SO YUNG MGA HINDI PA IGLESIA AY NAKAKAPASOK NA SILA SA INYONG SAMBAHAN KAHIT KAMPON PA SILA NG DEMONIO AT HINDI PA BINYAGAN. HA, HA, HA....

    [Charice was only 3 yrs old when her mother left the INC.]

    SUBALIT ANG KANYANG MGA MAGULANG AY INC NUON. IBIG SABIHIN TAGLAY NYA ANG PANANAMPALATAYA NG INC HANGGANG SA ITO AY KANILANG INIWAN AT ISINUKA. KAYA CONVERT SI CHARICE.

    [3. Maraming nga sigurong good citizen members ang RC pero in terms of percentage of RC membership, ilan kaya? Baka wala pang 1percent.]

    99% ANG GOOD CITIZENS NA CATHOLICS. HE, HE, HE... SA MGA SCHOOLS NAMIN E 99.9% ANG MABABAIT. AT SA BAWAT LUGAR E 1% LANG ANG MAY MGA BISYO. HE, HE, HE... HA, HA, HA...

    ANG INC, KONTI NA NGA HINDI PA LAHAT AY MABUTI. MERONG MGA ABUSERS NG ASAWA'T ANAK. MERONG MGA NAKIKIAPID AT IBA PA.

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  42. [4.Mas mabaho at nilulumot ang mga churches ng RC. Ang toilet ng INC churches pwede mo ng bedroom Fr. Abe- ang linis.]

    WRONG. MAS MABANGO ANG MGA CATHOLIC CHURCHES. KAYA NGA DINADAYO ITO NG TAO AT NG MGA TURISTA. SA INYO TINATAGO NYO. NAKAKANDADO LAGI KASI TAKOT KAYONG MAKITA ANG MGA KARUMAL DUMAL NA BAGAY SA LOOB. ANG SIMBAHAN NAMIN BUKAS SA PUBLIKO ARAW AT GABI.

    NILULUMOT ANG ILANG SIMBAHAN KASI ANTIQUE. MATAGAL NA KASI KAMI E. PANAHON PA NG MGA APOSTOLES ANG RELIHIYON NAMIN. SA INYO BAGONG IMBENTO LANG NG PEKENG SUGO NA ANGHEL DAW. ANGHEL NA NABULOK ANG BANGKAY.

    ANG TOILET NAMIN NAGAGAMIT NG LIBO-LIBONG TAO. SA INYO MAGANDA DAW, NAKATAGO NAMAN. IPINAGKAKAIT SA IBANG TAO. PAPANO NAMIN MASASABING MAGANDA E HINDI NYO NAMAN PINAKIKITA.

    YUNG MGA KAPILYA NYO NGA SA PROBINSIYA NAMIN ANG PAPANGIT. MAGANDA LANG ANG PINTURA AT MATAAS ANG SUNGAY NG DEMONIO SA TUKTOK PERO ANG PANGIT. MUKANG DEMONIO. YUNG IBA ISA LANG ANG SUNGAY AT YUNG IBA AY DALAWA ANG SUNGAY. HA, HA, HA...

    DAHIL MAGANDA ANG AMING MGA SIMBAHAN AT ANTIGO, MARAMI DITO ANG DINEKLARA NG UNESCO AS INTERNATIONAL HERITAGE. SILA AY CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE TREASURES OF THE WORLD. SA INYO MGA WALANG KWENTA. WALANG ARTISTIC VALUE. WALA RING HISTORICAL VALUE. HA, HA, HA...

    [5. Yung mga RC churches sa Europe, walang tao-pang tourist attraction lang. Mas madami pa nagsisimba sa Quiapo.]

    ANG CHURCHES SA EUROPE WALANG TAO DAHIL ANG MGA TAO DUON AY NAGPAPRAKTIS NG CONTRACEPTIONS AND ABORTIONS. SUBALIT ANG MGA CATOLICO AY NAGSISIMBA. YUNG MGA TURISTA, MGA CATOLICO YON. KAYA AMIN PA RIN YUNG SIMBAHAN AT MANANAMPALATAYA PA RIN NAMIN ANG NAGSISIMBA AT PUMUPUNTA.

    AT, TALAGANG MAS MAGANDA, MAS MABANGO, MAS MALINIS ANG AMING MGA SIMBAHAN KESA SA INYO. HA, HA, HA...

    KUNG MARAMI ANG NAGSISIMBA SA QUIAPO E PRAISE THE LORD. TALAGANG MADAMI TALAGA YON KASI MAS MADAMI KAMI SA INYO. KAYO KOKONTI LANG. HA, HA, HA...

    [6. Mahihirap lang mga INC (sa tingin nyo) pero ang mga Church nila hindi galing sa PCSO, hweteng lord, PAGCOR, at politiko.]

    ANG MGA SIMBAHAN NAMIN AY NAKATAYO NA HINDI PA NAIIMBENTO ANG JUETENG. HA, HA, HA... KAYA NAPAKA LAKING KATANGAHAN NA SABIHING GALING SA JUETENG ANG MGA SIMBAHAN NAMIN.

    ANG AMING MGA SIMBAHAN AY MULA SA DONASYON NG TAONG BAYAN. MULA SA MGA TINDERA, GURO, MANGANGALAKAL, POLITICO AT IBA PA.

    AT WAG MAGING IPOKRITO. KUNWARI HINDI DAW SILA TUMATANGGAP NG DONASYON MULA SA MGA POLITICO. HA, HA, HA... ALAM NAMAN NG LAHAT NA PUMIPILA ANG MGA POLITIKO SA MGA MANALO TUWING ELECTION. HA, HA, HA....

    [Hindi rin sa alkansyang santo na iginagala kahit sa mga Mall.]

    A, MASAMA NA PALA NGAYON ANG MAG-ALKANSIYA. SAAN YON SA BIBLIA? HA, HA, HA... NAG-IIPON NA NGA KAMI SA ALKANSIYA E MAMASAMAIN PA. HA, HA, HA... WAG MAGING IPOCRITO KASI KAYO RIN NAG-IIPON AT NAG-AALKANSIYA PARA IBIGAY TUWING SANTA CENA. ME NAKALAGAY SA SOBRE AT MERONG MGA ALKANSIYA. HA, HA, HA...

    [Puro sariling sikap to.]

    SARILING IKAPU. SAPILITANG IKAPU. HA, HA, HA...

    [Taos pusong abuloy-walang pilitan at batay sa aral ng bibliya.]

    SAAN NAKALAGAY SA BIBLIA NA DAPAT SAPILITAN ANG IKAPU? BAKIT OBLIGATORY YON SA INYO? SAAN YON SA BIBLIA?

    BAKIT KAPAG ABSENT SA PAGSAMBA E BEINTE PESOS AGAD ANG MULTA? SAAN YON SA BIBLIA? HA, HA, HA...

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  43. Fr. Abe,
    Hindi pa kailangan ng paslit o kulang pa sa bait o edad ang mag myemnbro ng relihiyon kasi itinuturing pa silang inosente at hindi nagkakasala. Kaya tayo nag rerelihiyon ay para mapatawad sa mga nagawa nating kasalana. Hindi ba sinabi ni Jesus,".. maliban na kayo'y maging tulad ng isang bata, ay wala kayong kaligtasan. Sa mga tulad nila (mga bata) ang kaharian ng langit.". Maski sa batas ng tao e pinatatawad ang mga bata. Dinidisiplina lang at hinuhubog para sa paglaki ay makilala ang tunay na Dios.

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  44. [7. Sa RC me bayad ang kasal, binyag, kumpil, basbas sa patay at mga ipinagbibiling relikya na pinagkakakitaan.]

    KELAN NAGKAROON NG BAYAD ANG KASAL, BINYAG AT KUMPIL PATI BASBAS SA PATAY?

    ME KASALANG BAYAN KAMI NA LIBRE ANG LAHAT NG GUSTONG MAGPAKASAL. ANG BINYAG AY WALANG BAYAD, ANG NAGBIBIGAY NG "ALAY NA HANDOG" AY MGA NINONG AT NINANG. GANON DIN SA KUMPIL. HE, HE, HE...

    YUNG RELIKYA E MERONG DONATION BOX SA HARAPAN. HE, HE, HE... MALAYA ANG SINUMANG GUSTONG MAGHULOG AT YUNG AYAW E OK LANG. SA INYO ANG IKAPU MAY LISTAHAN. ANG BEINTE KADA ABSENT AY MAY LISTAHAN DIN. MERON PANG DIACONESA NA NAGBABAHAY-BAHAY PARA MANINGIL. ANG KAPAL DI BA? HA, HA, HA...

    [Sa Iglesia wala mga yan.]

    HA, HA, HA... SINUNGALING.


    [Puro abuloy lang tuwing pagsamba.]

    OBLIGATORY NA IKAPU. INAALAM PATI SWELDO AT 10% AGAD ANG KALTAS, WALANG SABLAY. MAY LISTAHAN. HA, HA, HA...

    [Kaya nyo ba yun?]

    HINDI NAMIN KAYA YUN KASI MAY HIYA KAMI. KAYO WALA NA KAYONG BAIT SA SARILI. MGA UTO-UTO KAY MANALO.

    [Pag me na abuloy na mayaman sa RC pinanapa diario pa.]

    YUNG MAYAMAN ANG NAGPAPADIARIO KUNG GUSTO NYA. SUBALIT ANG BASKET NG ABULOY SA SIMBAHAN AY WALANG LISTAHAN KAYA HINDI NAMIN NALALAMAN KUNG MAGKANO ANG HINUHULOG NG BAWAT ISA.

    [Nkakahiya sa Dios.]

    KAYO ANG NAKAKAHIYA SA DIOS KASI GINAWA NINYONG OBLIGATORY ANG IKAPU.

    [5. Mas maraming sex offender sa RC- mga baklang pari.]

    MAS KONTI NGA SAMIN. MAS MARAMI SA MGA PROTESTANTE AT EVANGELICALS. SA INYO E MERON DIN SUBALIT DAHIL WALANG KWENTA ANG RELIHIYON NYO HINDI NABABALITA SA WORLD MEDIA. HINDI INTERESTED SA INYO ANG TIMES MAGAZINE, NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST AT IBA PA.

    KAMI BALITA KAHIT KONTI LANG ANG GUMAWA KASI MAS INTERESADO ANG MGA TAO SA AMIN KESA SA INYO.

    KAYO NGA PUNO MISMO ANG MAY KASO NG RAPE. DI BA?

    [Pina excommunicate nyo ba?]

    SABI NI CRISTO NAPARITO SIYA HINDI PARA SA MGA BANAL KUNDI PARA SA MGA MAKASALANAN. SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA DAPAT I EXCOMMUNICATE ANG MGA MAKASALANAN. SILA AY DAPAT GABAYAN SA TAMANG LANDAS AT BIGYAN NG KALIGTASAN MULA SA KASALANAN.

    KAYO, MALUPIT KAYO. WALA KAYONG PUSO. PINAPATALSIK NYO ANG MGA MAKASALANAN. PERO SI FELIX HINDI NYO PINATALSIK SA KASONG RAPE.

    [o kino cover up ng simbahan?]

    KAYA NGA ALAM E DAHIL HINDI NAMIN KINO COVER UP. KAYO ANG NAG COCOVER UP.

    SIYA NGA PALA: KELAN NYO I-EXCOMMUNICATE ANG TATAY NI CHARICE DAHIL SA SIN OF BEING PHYSICAL ABUSER? KELAN? EXCOMMUNICATED NA BA? TIWALAG NA BA? HA, HA, HA...

    KUNWARI GINAGAWA NYO ANO. NAGTATAGO KAYO NG MAKASALANAN.

    [Once a priest always a priest?]

    YAN ANG SABI NG BIBLIA.

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  45. Dapat binyagan ang mga sanggol dahil kailangan nila ang Binyag uapng makapasok sa kaharian ng langit. Ang sabi ng ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo: "MALIBAN NA ANG TAO AY IPANGANAK NA MULI NG TUBIG AT NG ESPIRITU HINDI SIYA MAKAPAPASOK SA KAHARIAN NG LANGIT." Ang mga Sanggol ay tao kaya dapat binyagan.

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  46. Pls. padre hwag naman mag-imbento para lang may masabi. Lalo mawawala ang paggalang sa inyo ng mga miyembro nyong makakabasa ng mga sinasabi nyo eh. Okey!! :)

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  47. Ang Roman Catholic nagspread out kasi sila yung tinutukoy sa bible na babaeng makasalanan na nakikiapid sa mga makapangyarihang bansa. Kaya nagspread out, it used politics. I will never be proud of a Religion na daig pa si Hitler sa sobrang pang aapi sa mga tao makuha lang ang gusto. Yes, Roman CAtholic Church is blessed...by the Devil. :D

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  48. [Ang Roman Catholic nagspread out kasi sila yung tinutukoy sa bible na babaeng makasalanan na nakikiapid sa mga makapangyarihang bansa.]

    ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH AY HINDI NAKIAPID SA MAKAPANGYARIHANG MGA BANSA. SA HALIP SIYA ANG LUMABAN AT GUMAPI SA MAKAPANGYARIHANG MGA BANSA.

    SINO ANG TUMALO SA PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE? CATHOLIC CHRUCH.

    SINONG LUMABAN AT TUMALO SA SOVIET UNION? CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    SINONG LUMABAN KAY NAPOLEON BONAPARTE? CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    SINONG NAGPABAGSAK NG PAGANISM AT DRUIDISM AT SORCERY SA EUROPE? CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    SINONG NAGCONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY SA MGA BARBARIANS NG EUROPE? CATHOLIC CHURCH DIN. HINDI MGA MANOLISTA.

    SINONG NAGPABAGSAK KAY MARCOS AT KAY ESTRADA? CATHOLIC CHURCH. SAMANTALANG ANG MGA MANALO AY TUTA NI MARCOS AT NI ERAP. SI CARDINAL SIN AT SI TITA CORY AT MGA PARI ANG NANGUNA SA PEOPLE POWER.

    [Kaya nagspread out, it used politics.]

    NO, NO, NO... NAG SPREAD OUT KAMI KASI WE PREACHED THE GOSPEL. ANG MGA MONKS NAMIN AY NANGARAL SA MGA FRANKS, SA MGA VIKINGS, SA MGA ENGELS, SA MGA KABUNDUKAN NG ALPINE AT CARPATHOS. NAGLAKBAY SILA MULA JERUSALEM AT ROME NAGTUNGO SA ESPANA, FRANCIA, VENETIA, POLAND, RUSSIA AT INGLATERA.

    ANG MGA MANALO AY INUTIL NOONG PANAHON NA IYON.

    [I will never be proud of a Religion na daig pa si Hitler sa sobrang pang aapi sa mga tao makuha lang ang gusto.]

    ANG IGLESIA CATOLICA ANG NAGPAUNLAD NG BUHAY NG MGA TAO. ITO ANG NAGPATAYO NG MGA UNANG HOSPITAL, UNIVERSIDAD, ORPHANAGES... ITO ANG NAGLIMBAG NG MGA UNANG AKLAT, NAGTURO NG PHILOSOPHIA, NAGSULAT NG MGA UNANG DICCIONARIO AT GRAMMATIKA AT MGA SINAUNANG MGA SCIENTISTS AY MGA CATOLICO.

    ANG MGA MANALO ANG MGA INUTIL SA LIPUNAN.

    HINDI NANG-API ANG SIMBAHANG CATOLICO. ITO ANG INAPI NG MGA PAGAN ROMANS, MGA BARBARIANS, SINALAKAY NG MGA MOROS AT TINULIGSA NG MGA PROTESTANTE.

    [Yes, Roman CAtholic Church is blessed...by the Devil. :D]

    ANG IGLISIA NI MANALO ANG GALING SA DEMONIO. ANG IGLESIA CATOLICA AY PINAGPALA NG DIOS. HANGGANG NGAYON, MAS MARAMI KAMING NAIBIBIGAY NA KABUTIHAN SA DAIGDIG KESA SA IGLESIA MANOLISTA.

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  49. fuck all of you

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  50. PRAISE THE LORD FOR HIS GREAT LOVE IS WITHOUT END. ALLELUIA. BLESSED ARE YOU LORD OUR ALMIGHTY KING BECAUSE YOU HAVE BROUGHT DOWN THE PROUD IN SHAME AND HAVE MANIFESTED THE TRUTH OF YOUR CHURCH. AMEN. ALLELUIA.

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  51. Kaya pala magaan ang loob ko kay Charice kasi in spirit CATHOLIC na pala siya.

    So tama kayo Father, sinwerte siya kasi tumiwalag na pala sila sa peke.

    Welcome Charice.

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  52. I'm an Anglican, pero sang-ayon ako sa mga sinabi ni Fr. Abe. Nakakahiya talaga etong INC defender na to. napaka crass ng ugali. Ganyan talaga kapag baguhan lang ang simbahan, marami pang kailangang patunayan.

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  53. Thank you dear Anglican. God bless you.

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  54. Fr. Abe, may message po ako sa inyo sa email, pero nagbounce back. Do you have an updated email?
    Thanks.

    -anonymous Anglican-

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  55. Dear Anonymous Anglican,

    I dont want to give in public my e-mail address. Otherwise it will be swarmed by many messages. Please send me your message and email add here and I will not post it publicly.

    God bless you.

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  56. How can I know if you are the one who is the Anonymous Anglican?

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  57. Father Abe... nakakatuwa tong issue na ito...nasukol na ung INC kaya nagmura at nagsabi nalang ng F*** all of you... nakakaawa ang kanyang kaluluwang naghahanap ng tuwid na daan... palibhasa kasi binulag ng kanyang paniniwala sa kanyang diyos na c manalo...

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  58. musta po father, mali po yung sinasabi nio na may tithing sa INC...at kinukunan ng P20 sa bahay2x..pasiensia na po pero yun ang totoo..hindi na po ako makikipagtalo sa inio tungkol sa relihiyon, masyado po kasing maselan, marami po ang mga dapat sabihin at marami ang masasayang sa mahalagang oras po nio..wala po akong sasabihin tungkol sa RC na hindi maganda, sa totoo lang po, ang isa sa mga totoo sa mga cnasabi nio, eh yung CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS ng Catholic..hinahangaan ko po talaga ang ginagawa nio tungkol sa pagiging worthy ng mga SPIRITUAL LEADERS nio..salamat po sa mga taong natutulungan nio, na-aadvicesan nio sa pagdadala ng buhay at pamumuhay..cguro po mas maganda po kung makakapag-ugnayan po ang bawat isa na may KAPAYAPAAN..yun po kc ang gusto ng DIOS di po b? ang magkaroon tayo ng tunay na kapayapaan...pero alam din po natin na hindi na matatmo ang ganap na KAPAYAPAAN sa mundong ito, kundi po sa buhay na darating..sanay magkaroon lahat tayo ng TUNAY NA PAG-ASA, PANANAMPALATAYA, AT PAG-IBIG na galing sa ating PANGINOONG DIYOS, AT SA ATING PANGINOONG HESUKRISTO....SA AMA ANG LAHAT NG KAPURIHAN AT SA KANYANG ANAK ANG PAGKALIGTAS NG TAO SA TIYAK NA KAPAHAMAKAN...TULUNGAN NAWA TAYO NG PANGINOONG DIYOS AT NG PANGINOONG HESUKRISTO...

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  59. Si padre nakakahiya aha.. Ang tagal ng Judgment Day.

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  60. KAYO ANG MAPUPUNTA SA IMPIERNO SA JUDGMENT DAY. MGA KAMPON NG PEKENG ANGHEL NA NABULOK ANG BANGKAY. MGA KAMPON NI MANALO HINDI NI CRISTO.

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  61. Mga INC na madaldal diyan,

    Totoo naman ang sinasabi ni Fr. Abe na merong abuluyan at iba't ibang issues ang INC.
    Nag sasalita kpa ng bad words na f*** you all
    Yan ba ang tinuturo sa inyong gusaling sambahan?
    Nakakahiya ka. At saka wala sa biblya si Manalong anghel niyo.

    Tanong ko sa inyo mga INC na madaldal
    Kung sinasabi niyo na ang inc ni Manalo ay totoo, mga perpektong tao ba kayo para husgahan ang Iglesia Katolika na puro kaming masasama???


    Eto, To let you know The Catholic Church is full of sinners, makasalanan kaming lahat even our Clergy are sinners.
    And Our Church is like a hospital filled with sick people who needs a Doctor.
    And our Doctor is God himself that will save or cure us from the sickness called sins. That's why he built his Church to gather sinners to be cleansed. Ang mga may sakit ay kailangan ng doctor hindi ang malulusog.
    Ipinpapakita mo lang na ang inc ay simbahan na puro perpekto ang mga miyembro pero sa katunayan ito ay mga ipocrito at pala husga sa kapwa.
    from the Gospel of Luke: "Don't Judge Others so that you will not also be Judged"

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  62. bakit kc kelangan magpagalingan? kaya nagkakaroon ng gulo pare-parehas kc nakikialam sa buhay ng may buhay... do not tag any on the issue na alam nyo magiging gulo. this is not a good readings. God doesn't like this. Maanong both people in any position, in any sect should stop making noise and just praise God. Un ang gusto ni God - PEACE! not an article with rude comments and vice versa.

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  63. lols... to all roman catholics, wag nyo na patulan yang mga INC pag nagsalita sila. i know. mga ipokrito, mangmang, at makikitid ang halos lahat ng mga yan(di lahat, i've known some with the right freewill to question things)

    i have the right to say so. for 4 years i studied in their university. i've observed and studied well their ways of thinking.

    di ko na didiscuss pa ang mga experience ko sa kanila, pero, sasabihin ko, ang mga religion na tulad nila ay matatawag kong salot. hindi "pagliligtas" ng kaluluwa ang purpose nila. hindi. tanging paghakot/pagbrainwash lang ng members ang ginagawa nila for their own benefits. they talk about religion as if science subject lang to na map-prove natin ang isang bagay kapag may nakasulat na proof.

    that's the INC in a nutshell.
    isang bagay lang ang hinahangaan ko sa kanila.
    magaling silang mangbrainwash, to the point na ang mga members nila ay hindi na marunong magisip para sa kanila.

    anyway, good luck to all INC members.

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  64. Fr. Abe, I didn't know Charice was an INC member. I'm glad though that she has converted to the Roman Catholic Church. Now she can sing with a clear conscience Ave Maria, Panis Angelicus, even Silent Night and Holy Night, and all the songs and hymns of the one true church. Hindi naman pwede kakanta kanta sya ng ganyan, e Iglesia ni Manalo naman pala sya. Wala naman syang mapipiga sa kultong ito. The INC is a sterile medium where no great music or art can flourish. No great philosophy, literature, theology, scientific knowledge or, come to think about it, architecture either. Ipinagmamalaki ng INC members ang mga kapilya nila, pero kahit yan e kopya lang sa RCC. Kung di mga bugok ang mga INC members they should realize that these so-called chapels are French Gothic, a Catholic Church architectural style popular in Europe.

    Fr. Abe, for whatever it's worth, I commend you for putting these heretics in their proper places. Tama ang style ng pakikipag talastasan mo sa mga hunghang na yan. You can't use subtlety with these people. The message will be lost to them. Pilantik ang kailangan.

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  65. Fr. Abe, for all it's worth, I commend you for putting heretics in their proper places. For so long now priests and nuns and Catholic educators fail to respond in kind. Maybe their natural holiness prevent them from giving measure for measure, and so Felix Manalo and his followers have the field to themselves.

    Here's how they do it. They will tell a prospective member that Felix Manolo is the angel rising in the far east, as foretold in bible. The Philippines, they will say, is in the Far East. They will quote Admiral George Dewey, who supposedly says America needs an outpost in the Far East, and the Philippines is ideal for that purpose. Actually, the bible says east, not far east. But even if it does say far east, the term refers to a point in the compass, not to a geographic location. Again, even if it refers to a particular region in the map, the Philippines falls outside that region. The Philippines is in the Southeast, not in the Far East, never mind that Protestant Dewey. The countries that make up the Far East are Japan and Korea and, I think, part of Russia.

    The Manolistas claim INC is the church established by Christ. They will quote the passage, "At sa ibabaw ng batong ito itatayo ko ang aking Iglesia." Then they will say, with a straight face. "Sino ang nagsasalita? Si Cristo. Ano daw ang itatayo? Iglesia. Samakatuwid Iglesia ni Cristo."

    This is hilarious, but the tindera sa palengke, the construction worker, the tricycle driver, and the magtataho lap it all up.

    But the poor and uneducated also deserve the saving protection of the Catholic Church. And if you, Fr. Abe, can unmask these false prophets by resorting to sarcasm, biting humor, and outright insult, you'll bring our lost brethren home or, most important of all, prevent them from being led astray in the first place.

    As regards Charice. I'm glad she found her way back. Now she can, in good conscience, sing the Ave Maria, Silent Night, and other Catholic songs.

    The INC and, for that matter, the other heretical sects formed by Eli Soriano, Eddie Villanueva, and Apollo Quiboloy can never boast of any meaningful songs and hymns. Or of literature. Or of scientific knowledge. All advances in science and technology, arts and culture, social sciences, government and the law have been made by Catholic priests and laymen.

    If Catholicism is not the one true religion, then Christianity is a cruel joke foisted on mankind.

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