33rd National Convention Catholic Faith Defenders Inc.
Talisay City, Cebu, Philippines
May 22-23, 2010
Theme: “Catholic Faith Defenders as Witnesses of Peace, Hope and Reconciliation”
(By: Bro. Ryan R. Mejillano)
Philippians 1:16 “Some out of charity, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.”
Last May 22-23, 2010, The Catholic Faith Defenders Inc. had its 33rd National Convention (every three (3) years). It was graced by the re-elected Mayor and our dearly beloved brother of the faith Bro. Socrates “Soc” Fernandez of Talisay City, Cebu.
Early January this year, the outgoing National President Atty. Miguel “Bro. Mike” Abas, announced that the upcoming National Convention will be held at Talisay City, Cebu. Since the advent of cell phone communications, the announcement became a wild fire to every CFD Chapters throughout the country.
Despite my hectic work schedules, I was able to file my leave of absence for that day (May 22 Saturday) solely for that religious convention. I was able to convince Bro. Hector (VP-External of CFD-San Pedro) to attend the said convention.
Another young and bright leader of CFD-Davao Bro. Hector Damaso. Like Bro. Ryan he is also a good friend of Fr. Abe, CRS.So it was on May 22 (Saturday) at 7:15 a.m. that we took off by plane reaching the “Queen of the South” after 45 minutes of travel via Cebu Pacific Air. To my surprise, Atty. Marcelo “Bro. Mars” Bacalso (National Legal Adviser) called me up and told me that he will be fetching us in Mactan International Airport, Lapu-lapu City, Cebu. Thanks to Atty Mars since Talisay City is quite far from the airport and we don’t know exactly the area of the convention.
Past 11 o’clock a.m., we were able to reach the beautiful newly-built City Hall of Talisay. We registered our names in the attendance logbook and were given each one a kit (folder with programs and other articles) purposely for 2 days activity. Roughly three hundred (300 plus) attendees were there, mostly elderly defenders and witnesses of the Catholic Faith. Meals, snacks and lodging were served and prepared for free courtesy of Mayor Soc.
The afternoon’s event was resumed at 2pm. Rev. Fr. Dondon Aquino gave us the topic “Scriptures and Prayer”, wherein he reiterated the importance of prayer in the life of an apologist.
Rev. Fr. Lucas Inoc in his topic “Gaudium et Spes”
The Sacrament of Reconciliation colloquy was given by Rev. Msgr. Dennis Villarojo. He extensively discussed the benefits of the sacrament and made a coherent and historical examination of the doctrine.
Bro. Lesty of CFD-CDO Chapter raises question to Fr. Inoc
After the open forum, the National Convention opened the presentation of candidates for the year 2010-2013. Each applying candidate must have the following qualification envisaged by the National Constitution and By-laws Article IX Section 1; 1) He must be an active member of the organization for at least three (3) consecutive years prior to his election;
2) He must be a member of the National assembly as defined in Section 4, Article V hereof;
3) He must be of proven honesty and integrity;
4) He must not have been suspended or penalized for violation of any rules and regulations of the organization and;
5) He must be generally a responsible person. The committee on election gave each candidate the chance to introduce himself and speak about his plans for the group. There were 35 candidates for the Board of Governors position wherein only 21 shall be chosen by majority votes.
The following defenders of the Faith were chosen to be the governing body for the period of three (3) years, to wit;
Executive Officers
National President - Bro. Ramon Gitamondoc
(Engr & Prof. University of San Carlos, Cebu City)
V-Pres. Internal - Bro. Cleb Calimutan
(Instructor of Theology, Xavier University, Cagayan de Oro City)
V-Pres. External - Bro. Wendell Talibong
(Radio Anchorman, DXDD Catholic Media Station, Ozamis City)
Secretary National - Bro. Ryan R. Mejillano
(Instructor of Theology, Liaison officer, Davao City)
Treasurer - Bro. Adam Amper
(Bank Manager, Certified Public Accountant, LL.B, Cebu City)
P.I.O. - Bro. Reynaldo Rosal
(Ozamis City)
- Bro. Raymundo Bascones
(Cebu City)
Board of Governors members
Bro. Miguel Abas - Dipolog City
Bro. Septofel Apurado - Cebu City
Bro. Francisco Pastorite - Cebu City
Bro. Alejandro Purca - Cebu City
Bro. Dionesio Pepito - Oroquieta City
Bro. Nelson Dalam - Cebu City
Bro. Hector Damaso - Davao City
Bro. Rey Entila - Bacolod City
Bro. Hernando Mangitngit - Cebu City
Bro. Juvenal Alesna - Ormoc City
Bro. John Diona - Davao City
Bro. Celestino Cubol - Cagayan de Oro City
Bro. Woodrow Maquiling - Dumaguete City
Bro. Ricardo Felizarta - Zamboanga City
Honorary Adviser - Bro. Socrates Fernandez
(Mayor of Talisay City)
Bro. Ryan R. Mejillano
At 6pm, after the end of the first day convention, the participants were able to witness the live radio streaming program of Bro. Soc via DYHP. The CFD participants were given the chance to ask questions which they thought, could break the head of Bro. Soc. Elucidating with clarity, Bro Soc answered all their questions and remained calm throughout the radio program.
Mayor Soc in his live radio program….
as witnessed by CFD participants…
the untiring Bro. Soc…
elucidating brilliantly the catholic faith…
He is indeed a legend of Philippine Catholic Apologetics. The CFD National has its own Television Network that will be reported in my succeeding posts.
I saw different banners, insignias and shirts bearing the names and mottos of the different chapters of the Catholic Faith Defenders Inc. from Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao.
Atty. Mike Abas during his President’s report
That was my first time to see legions of defenders marching for the holy crusade for the Faith. Others are young, relatively older, and Senior citizens for the Faith respectively. I saw Bro. Romy Birad and Bro. Boy Naranjo of CFD-Mangagoy Chapter where we held our CFD-USEP outreach apologetics. I saw the followers of late National President Dr. Fortunato Dayot of Tagum City, Dr. Rey Entila (Doctor of Religious Studies, University of St. La Salle Bacolod). The Honorable Judge Dangaso of Gingoog, Atty. Mike Abas of Dipolog, Atty. Bacalso of Cebu, and many more whose charism is to stoutly defend the Sacred Truth once and for all.
Dr. Entila, Atty. Abas and Bro. Ryan chatting of experiences…
There were also presentations of reports by different chapters. Luckily, our Davao chapter was ready all the time for their presentation since they had been presenting the Davao apologetics since 2007 (updated time to time). Listening to the reports by different chapters made me realized that the defense of the Sacred Truth would be a lifetime apostolate. Once you embrace that apostolate, take heed of the sacred words of Our Lord “those who will persevere shall be saved” (Mt. 24:13).
Atty. Mike Abas during his President’s report
That was my first time to see legions of defenders marching for the holy crusade for the Faith. Others are young, relatively older, and Senior citizens for the Faith respectively. I saw Bro. Romy Birad and Bro. Boy Naranjo of CFD-Mangagoy Chapter where we held our CFD-USEP outreach apologetics. I saw the followers of late National President Dr. Fortunato Dayot of Tagum City, Dr. Rey Entila (Doctor of Religious Studies, University of St. La Salle Bacolod). The Honorable Judge Dangaso of Gingoog, Atty. Mike Abas of Dipolog, Atty. Bacalso of Cebu, and many more whose charism is to stoutly defend the Sacred Truth once and for all.
Dr. Entila, Atty. Abas and Bro. Ryan chatting of experiences…
There were also presentations of reports by different chapters. Luckily, our Davao chapter was ready all the time for their presentation since they had been presenting the Davao apologetics since 2007 (updated time to time). Listening to the reports by different chapters made me realized that the defense of the Sacred Truth would be a lifetime apostolate. Once you embrace that apostolate, take heed of the sacred words of Our Lord “those who will persevere shall be saved” (Mt. 24:13).
Second day, a Pontifical Mass was celebrated by His Excellency Julito Cortez D.D., Metropolitan Auxiliary bishop of Cebu.
Fidelity to the Church’s Magisterium
May 23, 2010 (Solemnity of Pentecost/ Whitsunday)
Catholic Faith Defenders and Friends, Good Morning!
Introduction
I have been tasked today to reflect and share with you some ideas on the topic: Fidelity to the Church’s Magisterium. But before I do that, allow me to welcome you to Cebu- and to the Archdiocese of Cebu- Maayong Pag-abot sa Sugbu-. It is my wish that you will have a memorable and meaningful convention and stay here in the city of the Santissimo Nombre de Nino Jesus (the City of the Most Holy Name of Jesus), as Cebu was known in the ancient chronicles. It is also my prayer that this convention of yours and mine be a moment of grace for each of us and for us as an organization, so that we can be further inspired to pour ourselves to the Church we dearly love.
Bishop Cortes delivered his speech “ Fidelity to the Church’s Magisterium”
Fidelity in Today’s World
Bishop Cortes delivered his speech “ Fidelity to the Church’s Magisterium”
Fidelity in Today’s World
Fidelity is definitely a topic worth reflecting these days. In the aftermath of our recent national elections, we can probably ask ourselves: were we really yellow? or orange? or green? or did we shift colors depending on the color of money before us? or because of the promise that should this candidate win, we will be rewarded? was our vote influenced by political commitments and social obligations? or was it really a vote for conscience? and now since it seems that the yellow has won, will other colors like orange and green in the political horizon turn yellow overnight?
Fidelity in other words, implies a center. A center where our life revolves. If money is the center of our lives, then, definitely seek ways to be famous. If our conscience- if God- is the center of our lives, whether or not there be money or fame, then we will do what our conscience bids us.
Now, the question is – what is our center? Or, for us, as catholics, who is our center? The question of fidelity can only be answered when we are clear what or who our center is. Otherwise, everything will only be an exercise of linguistics calisthenics.
Oath taking and sending forth ceremony by Bishop Cortes (Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu)
The Catholic Faith Defenders’ Mission
The center of the Catholic Faith Defenders, I believe, is God. Hence, as its mission, the CFD seek ways to defend the Catholic Faith from erroneous teachings, and at the same time, seek ways to instruct others on how to defend and treasure this Faith, so that all may find their way through Jesus to the Father.
At this point, allow me to express my gratitude for the good work you are doing. You are doing something very valuable and very productive to our Church. And I think, the Church cannot thank you enough for the zeal you have shown in the exercise of your particular charism.
As is, the parish priest in many parishes can no longer do what you are doing. He attends to other ministries in the Church so, pastorally, he would have very little time doing the “apologetical” work that you do. You are therefore responding to a sensitive area of weakness in the Church. And, besides, as Roman Catholics, we are taught to be loving and charitable – it is not our mission to attack the faith of others and find errors in this faith of theirs. Lamentably, others attack us – and, fortunately, the Church has you. So, once again, thank you very much for the great service you are doing for our Church.
While it is clear however, that fidelity needs to have a center- which we acknowledge, is the Lord- it is crucial to acknowledge that our Church, through which we got to know the Lord, while being divine is also a human institution and a product of history. And, being a human institution, the Church is subject to the activities of men and women, to power struggles among kings and emperors, and even among bishops and priests. It cannot be denied, then, that through history, mistakes and errors have been made.
Your experiences in the field would reveal that we are most vulnerable to attacks in the following areas: Church getting involved in politics or in issues like the Reproductive Health Bill; or in basic concerns like repetitive prayer like the rosary, confessions before the priest, masses of the dead, plenary indulgences and many others. We are vulnerable to attack because we are certainly wanted to make our voice known. To be quiet on issues like the Reproductive Health Bill, among others, would be like keeping quiet to the killing of the unborn in our midst-which, for us, would constitute grave sin.
In a meeting with the Bishops of Scotland in Rome, His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI said these words: “Recent developments in medical ethics and some of the practices advocated in the field of embryology give cause for great concern. If the Church’s teaching is compromised, even slightly, in one such area, then it becomes hard to defend the fullness of Catholic doctrine in an integral manner. Pastors of the Church, therefore, must continually call the faithful to complete fidelity to the Church’s Magisterium, while at the same time upholding and defending the Church’s right to live freely in society according to her beliefs.
The Dogmatic Constitution on the Church of the Second Vatican Council, Chapter 25, moreover, has these lines: Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic Truth. In matters of Faith and Morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ, and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent of souls. This religious submission of will and of mind must be shown in a special way to the authentic teaching authority of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra, his supreme Magisterium is acknowledged, the judgment made by him…adhered to….known chiefly from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, from his manner of speaking.
Certainly, we do not follow nor obey blindly. That is why you and I are called to participate in Church’s activities, like on-going church formation, deepening of catechism lessons, and others, so that we will understand better appreciate what the Church teaches. But again, as I have hinted earlier, it is good to acknowledge that we, as Church, while divine, are a product of history. Acknowledgment that we, as Church, are a human and historical construct would place us in a better position to answer questions and to clarify certain issues.
Church as Magister as well as Mater
But even as we acknowledge that the Church is Magister or Teacher, we also need to realize she is Mater or Mother. That while as Magister she teaches, corrects, and, sometimes, punishes with words like anathema sit, at heart, the Church is mother and will only lovingly welcome back an erring child.
At this point, it may be best to accept that everything is grace. To be faithful to the Church’s Magisterium is grace. But even as we acknowledge that everything is grace, I still would like to believe that two things are crucial in being faithful to the Magisterium: First, personal prayer; and, Second, participation in the communal expression of the faith like the Sunday Eucharist. Prayer disposes us to dialogue with God and makes us ready to receive the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit who alone helps us to interpret scriptures correctly. And communal participation in the Eucharist strengthens our bond with the Body of Christ. That while we directly relate to the Father individually, we are all members of God’s kingdom.
Definitely, fidelity to the Church’s Magisterium is one of the best expressions in showing how we dearly love our Church: through the Church, we receive our Faith; In the Church, we nurture and express our Faith; The Church is one of God’s greatest gifts to us- Let us value this gift by always being faithful to her teachings.
Good morning
By the Most Reverend Julito B. Cortes, D.D.
Auxiliary Bishop of Cebu
The newly selected National Board of Officers 2010-2013
The first Board of Governor’s meeting was held in a lunch meeting at the conference hall of Talisay City. It was a close door meeting. We laid down our proposed plans and programs and set our next quarterly meeting by August.
Honorable Judge Dangaso of CFD-Gingoog Chapter
In the afternoon session, Bro, Ramon Gitamondoc discussed about “Ways of doing apologetics” followed by Bro. Soc Fernandez on his “Joys of being a CFD”.
Pro Deo et Ecclesia.
The pictures below are taken when I and Bro. Hector visited some of our classmates and fellow CFD-USEP who are now residing in Cebu. We went to Ayala Mall and have a coffee break @ Starbucks. We went to the Order of Augustinian Discalced (OAD) where our friends and fellow CFD’s, Rev. Giovanni (soon to be deacon) and Bro. Roderick (graduated Cum Laude), are doing their apostolate. This congregation regularly celebrates the Extra-ordinary Form (Tridentine Latin Mass) every Sunday 10:30 a.m. We went also to the Metropolitan Cathedral and Magellan’s cross at night to personally thank God for all the blessings He had given to us since our college days with Bro. Hector. God indeed is working in us in a very mysterious ways.
We returned to Davao City early Monday bringing with us the beacon of experiences. God bless CFD. (“,)
Bro. Ian, Bro. Eric, and Bro. Ryan gig @ night…
am the cameraman hehehe…
seldom to drink @ Starbucks..
thanks to this temporary abode near the city proper…
Order of Augustinian Discalced (OAD)
OAD with its schedule every 10:30 a.m. (Extra-ordinary Form of the Roman Rite, A.k.a. TLM)
The OAD Blessed Sacrament Chapel
Mysteries of the Rosary shrine…
Sta. Rita (Saint of the Impossible)
Our Lady of Fatima Shrine..























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Fr Abe, the pictures are "mawsome" (if I should mimic a former student's expression of awe. It supposed to mean the words "most awesome" combined).
ReplyDeleteI was intrigued most especially on those images of the Metropolitan Cathedral. More "mawsomeness". Plus, I could not help feeling elated at that sign of Mass schedules at Tabor Hill Monastery. Something of that popped into mind as to whether they have pictures of the TLM celebrated in the said monastic enclosure.
For I would definitely exclaim "mawesome" again if ever there'd be anything presented on that.
Nice pictures po Fr. God bless po.
Sincerely,
Shirley
By the way po Fr. Abe, just a simple question po. I hope you don't mind.
ReplyDeleteI noticed in the list you indicated above that ALL of the governors or board members of the CFD are males. Something struck a note in me with that: It's primordially apparent that most apologists (especially those who engage in discussions) are males. In consonance to this, our TLM group based in QC which you would know as Ecclesia Dei Society of St. Joseph (also as the official Una Voce chapter in the Philippines) has the executive board "dominated" by males. Myself and another somewhat aged lady are the only two females in the said convocation. Thus, leading me to asking...
Why Fr? I'm beginning to think that apologetics and the liturgy have always piqued men's interests and rarely of women.
So that's my big question mark po for now. God bless po again...
Sincerely,
Shirley
Dear Ate Shirley,
ReplyDeleteI myself is perplexed why almost 100% of our Catholic Apologists are males. Although there are also some women, like you, who are also defending the faith. In the U.S. there is the famous Kathleen Moss who is now a nun and Teresa Tomeo. But still they are tiny minority.
I think it is in our nature. Women are more gentle than men. You prefer to do things by dialogue and conversations rather than through debates and hair-splitting of ideas or philosophical-theological terms. Although we are equal in talents and in learning the boys are truly more combatants than the more patient and loving girls.
We need to preserve both.
Thanks for blessing me with your writings.
ReplyDeletePlease help a fellow believer raise some money by surfing on over to http://www.hybridhondas.com and clicking on a few of the sponsored links that interest you.
Hi, Fr Abe!
ReplyDeleteNice article by Bro Ryan on the 33rd National Convention of CFDs. Hope we can have one here in Luzon (we don't have a CFD chapter here yet)
The enemies of the Church will stop at nothing to destroy her.
http://papalbusters.blogspot.com/2010/07/catholic-faith-defenders-incs-33rd.html
This guy has his own caption of the pics. You can sense the anger and hatred in his heart. The thing is, this guy doesn't want to debate:
http://papalbusters.blogspot.com/p/why-i-dont-engage-in-debates.html
It's because he's hot-headed. Maybe he already faced a CFD in Cebu (he's Cebu-based by the way) and was soundly defeated, thus the rancor against the Catholic Church.
Let's pray for this guy's soul.
Bro Kit
A very encouraging and inspiring info to all Catholic apologist and supporters.
ReplyDeleteGod bless. . .
Dear Bro. Kit,
ReplyDeleteDon't mind that Franklin Li of papalbusters.blogspot.com
KULANG LANG SA PANSIN YAN. KITA MO WALANG NAGBABASA AT WALANG NAGKOKOMENTO SA BLOG NYA. THAT IS A DEAD BLOG. HE IS A PARASITE TO OUR CATHOLIC BLOGS ESPECIALLY THE SPLENDOR OF THE CHURCH BLOG. HE IS JUST FOLLOWING US AND USING OUR PHOTOS.
THAT GUY IS AN IDIOT AND A COWARD. HIS POSTS HAVE NO SENSE AT ALL. HE ONLY SHOWS THAT WE ARE REALLY EFFECTIVE IN OUR DEFENSE OF THE FAITH. HE IS SELF-DESTRUCTIVE. THE BAPTISTS THEMSELVES WILL DISOWN HIM.
Hi Fr Abe and Bro Kit:
ReplyDeleteIf that certain Franklin Li (as what I have gathered in these aforementioned comments) do not want dialogue and mere spitfires, well let him be. Sometimes people do not desire to reason out--despite their being so-called 'Christians'--all in direct contrast to what St Paul exhorted the faithful to keep up in reasoning for the Faith.
He wants to bust papists. Hah. The Papacy and the Catholic Church have been targets of enough busting even before the Protestant protestations (i.e. 16th c. Reformation). The 95 Theses posted by that infamous former monk is enough to prove that. And Armando Ang too. Oh wait, he has a new book. I saw it in a National Bookstore branch last Saturday. A pity, though. If Li and Ang should connive, let them do all the conniving, spit-firing, ranting and raving, insulting, cursing, busting or whatever gerund they'd want to pursue. As long as they should not influence English grammar of that sort or publish textbooks in the likes of anti-Mary I propaganda by that Englishman of Good Queen Bess' reign, whose name I've forgotten.
By the way Fr Abe, I guess you're right. There is only a trickling of women apologists, inasmuch as 'gender's interests' are at play (if I should use such a concocted term). But we do pray to God for more. Women are such a help to the Church and the great St Dominic had foreseen that when he founded the Dominican moniales in France. :)
Ad majorem Dei gloriam! (since it's St. Ignatius de Loyola's feast month in August...)
Thank you po Fr. and God bless po.
Sincerely,
Shirley
Thank you Ate Shirley,
ReplyDeleteThat Franklin Li is a coward. Well, he does not engage in debate because he is an ignoramus as shown by the quality of his works. Then he has the guts to plagiarized even our personal photos and use them for his own end. That is something that we do not commit against Gerry Soliman, John Joseph Ras and their cohorts. In fact, that name "Franklin Li" could be a mere alias.
OUR ENEMIES ARE BECOMING DESPERATE AND FRUSTRATED. AND IN EFFECT HE IS ACTING LIKE A WOUNDED ANIMAL BEREFT OF ANY REASON OR CHIVALRY. HE IS SELF-DESTRUCTING.
On our part, I called Rodimus and John Joseph Ras LIARS because they really LIED TO ME. In the course of our exchanges they lied as proven in the records of this blog.
ANYWAY, LET US PRAISE THE LORD BECAUSE THE BEREANS ARE REALLY REALLY GOING TO THE DOGS. THEIR FORUM IS DOWN, DOWN, DOWN TO THE SINK...
kaya nga po ang tanong ko po sa mga CFD.
ReplyDeleteAng Relihiyon po ba na may ARAL ng PAGANO na ITINATAGUYOD ay IPAGIGING sa DIYOS po ba ng tao at ikaliligtas?
PAKI SAGOT PO SANA NG CFD PLS
By: Jason Abalos
Limited p po ang kaalaman ko
fr. so hoping you could answer his question.. baka may pag asa pang mkabalik yan s ating Simbahan.hehehe.. thank you po Fr. Abe..
helow nga po pala s lahat ng mga CFD's..especially s CFD -dvo.hehehe
Fr. Abe ito po questions ni Jason Abalos
ReplyDeleteI tried to answer his question briefly pero hindi p po sya kontento.Im asking your help Fr.Abe so he could find his way back to our church.hehehe..salamat po
Posted: July 26, 2010
isa pang tanong janesa wala kasi nagrereply dun sa isang site,
sa aklat katoliko na isinulat ng pari na ang pamagat ay:
“The externals of the catholic church” by: John F. Sullivan,p.226
“It is interesting to note how often OUR CHRUCH {Catholic Chruch} has availed herself of practices which were in common use among PAGANS,and which owed their origin their aproriateness for expressing something spiritual by material means.The CHRUCH and her clergy are ‘all things to all men,that they main gain all for christ.And she has often found that it was well to take what was PRAISEWORTHY in other forms of WORSHIP and adapt into her own purposes,for the sanctification of her children.”
Thus it is TRUE,in certain sence,that some CATHOLIC RITES and CEREMONIES are a REPRODUCTION OF THOSE OF PAGAN CREEDS;…”
Sa Pilipino:
“Kasiya siyang mapuna kung gaano kalimit pinakikinabangan ng ating {Iglesia Katolika} ang mga kaugaian na karaniwang ginagamit ng mga PAGANO,at nagmula ang mga ito sa kanilang kaangkupang magpahayag ng isang bagay na ukol sa espiritu sa pamamagitan ng praang panglaman.Ang iglesia at ang kanyang mga pari ay ang lahat ng bagay sa lahat ng tao,upang kanilang makamit ang lahat kay kristo at madalas niyang matagpuan na mabuting PULUTIN ang mga KAPURI PURI sa ibang mga uri ng PAGSAMBA at ilapat ito sa kanyang sarilng mga layunin para sa pagpapakabanl sa kanyang mga anak,”
“Kaya TOTOO sa isang kahulugan na ang ilang sa mga RITOS at CEREMONYA ng KATOLIKO ay HINANGO DOON sa mga PANANALIG PAGANO;….”
Ayon po sa pari na sumulat ng aklat; ang Iglesia Katolika po NAMULOT KUMOPYA ng mga ARAL sa PAGANO.
Ang Relihiyon po ba na may ARAL ng PAGANO na ITINATAGUYOD ay IPAGIGING sa DIYOS po ba ng tao at ikaliligtas?
salamat po…
Yan po ang mga katanungan nya Fr.. Pki sagot lng po Fr. Salamt po.
Janesa-Davao
From Jason Abalos
ReplyDeletePosted: July 27, 2010
dati catholic ako,MASUSI ko pong pinag aralan SUNURI ang CATHOLIC CHRUCH bagu ako lumipat ng ibang relihiyon, wala nmng dahilan pra magsinungaling ako sa site na to itataya ko relihiyon ko ngaun kung kasinungalingan at inimbento ko lang yang aklat niong yan,and im sure na AKLAT KATOLIKO yan! at PARING KATOLIKO ang sumulat nyan! bkt po ninyo na itinatanggi na hindi nyo aklat yan? pede nio po search yan sa mga libraby tulad ng ginawa ko.
panu po kung mapatunayan ko na kumopya at namulot ng aral ang catholic chruch sa PAGANO??? dare ko po kayo at ang cfd?!
eto po ang mga halimbawa sa mga ARAL PAGANO na kinopya at itinataguyod ng CATHOLIC.
sa isang AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin na isinulat ng PARI
“The two Babylons” by: Rev.Alexander Hislop,p.187
“The ROSARY and the worship of the sacred heart.Everyone knows how throughly romanist is the use of ROSARY;and how the devotees of ROME mechanically teel their prayers upon their BEADS,The ROSARY,however,IS NOT INVENTION OF THE PAPACY.It is of highest antiquity,AND ALMOST UNIVERSALLY FOUND AMONG PAGAN NATIONS.The ROSARY was used as a sacred instrument among the BRAMINS of HINDUSTAN; and in the HINDOO sacred BOOKS refence is made to it AGAIN and AGAIN.”
Sa Pilipino;
“Ang ROSARYO at ang pagsamba sa banal na puso {SAGRADA CORAZON}.Nalalaman ng bawat isa kung paano ganap na ROMANISTA ang paggamit ng ROSARYO;at kung paano ng ang mga deboto ng roma ay parang makinang umuusad ng kanilang mga dasal sa pamamagitan ng mga BUTIL.Ang ROSARYO,gayunpaman ay HINDI LIKHA ng KAPAPAHAN.Ito ay NAPAKATAGAL NA,at halos LAGANAP NA MATATAGPUAN sa mga BANSANG PAGANO.Ang rosaryo at ginamit bilang isang banal na kasangkapan ng mga brahmins ng hindustan;at sa mga banal na aklat ng mga hindoo ay BINABANGGIT ITONG PAULIT ULIT.”
ayon sa inyong aklat ang ROSARYO ay HINDI LIKHA NG KAPAPAHAN.Ito ay NAPAKATAGAL NA,LAGANAP NA MATATAGPUAN SA MGA BANSANG PAGANO.Ang totoo HINDI pa man ginagamit ng CATHOLIC ang ROSARYO,ay may NAUNA ng GUMAMIT ng ROSARYO at ito nga ay sa mga bansang PAGANO.
kaya sabi pa ng AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin tungkol sa ROSARYO ay;
“Catholic Dictionary” by: Addis and Arnolds,p.717
“The practice of using BEADS,etc,as a help to memory in reciting a set number of prayers IS NOT DISTINCTIVELY CHRISTIAN,but it has long existed in the CATHOLIC CHRUCH.”
Sa Pilipino;
“Ang kaugalian sa paggamit ng mga BUTIL,at iba pa,bilang tulong sa memorya sa pagbigkas ng ilang bilang ng mga panalangin AY HINDI ISANG KAUGALIANG IKAKIKILALA SA MGA KRISTIYANO,subalit ito ay matagal ng umiiral sa IGLESIA KATOLIKA.”
ayon inyong aklat mismo ang pag ROROSARYO ay
HINDI ISANG KAUGALIANG IKAKIKILALA SA MGA KRISTIYANO dahil nga po sa PAGANO ITO kinuha..
Cont. From: Jason Abalos
ReplyDeleteisa pa rin AKLAT KATOLIKO;
“Catholic Dictionary” by: Addis and Arnolds,p.600
“Novena {from novem,nine}The practice of dedicating a period of nine days to special prayer or devotion PROBABLY ORIGINATED FROM PAGAN CUSTOMS.”
Sa Pilipino;
“Novena {mula sa novem,siyam.} Ang pagtatalaga ng siyam na araw para sa natatanging panalangin o debosyon na MALAMANG NA NAGGALING SA MGA KAUGALIANG PAGANO.”
Pati po NOVENA sa PAGANO din po galing.
Kaya nga ang mga PAG AMIN ng mga PARING KATOLIKO sa mga AKLAT na kanilang isinulat at ang DAMDAMIN NILA sa kanilang pangongopya ng mga aral sa PAGANO ay ganinto.
isang AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin ;
The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.166
“She does not hesitate even to take over PAGAN RITUAL and PAGAN SYMBOLS,Whenever such things can be christianized and reformed.”
Sa Pilipino;
“Siya {ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA} ay hindi man lamang nag aatubiling KUMUHA ng mga RITUWAL at ng mga SAGISAG PAGANO.Kailan mat ang gayung mga bagay ay maaaring isa kristiano at maisaayos.”
The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.2
We CATHOLICS acknowledge readily,WITHOUT ANY SHAME,MAY WITH PRIDE,That CATHOLICISM cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive christianity,NOR EVEN WITH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST,…”
Sa Pilipino;
Tinatanggap naming mga KATOLIKO kapag karaka,NG WALANG ANUMANG IKAHIHIYA,BAGKUS MY PAGMAMALAKI na sa anumang paraan ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO;…”
“What Catholics Believe and Why” by John Gilland Brunini,p.316
sa pilipino na..
“Sa kanyang {IGLESIA KATOLIKA} mga PAMAMARAANG HINIRAM sa MARAMING mga PINAGKUNAN mula sa pamamaraang panrelihiyon ng mga hudyo,mula sa ROMANO,samakatuwid ay PAGANO,panrelihiyon at sibil na mga pamamaraan,…”
yan po ay ILAN lamang.. ang totoo marami pa sana akong ipopost kaso lang medyo masakit na kasi mata ko.
Hindi po ako galit sa CATHOLIC CHRUCH o sa mga PARI o sa sinomang KATOLIKO po.. TAYO po at galit sa MALING ARAL,siguro nmn po ay sang ayon kayo dun..
sana po ay laliman ninyo ang pagsusuri..
salamat po..
kaya nga po ang tanong ko po sa mga CFD.
Ang Relihiyon po ba na may ARAL ng PAGANO na ITINATAGUYOD ay IPAGIGING sa DIYOS po ba ng tao at ikaliligtas?
PAKI SAGOT PO SANA NG CFD PLS
http://catholicfaithdefender.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/sino-ba-ang-babae-sa-revelation-12/
Fr.Abe inimbita ko n po sya dito s website nyo..para po malaman nya ang mga kasagutan s mga tanong nya.para maliwanagan bpo.hehehehe.
nag aaral p po ako s mga doctrina ntin Fr. hehehe.. sana makabalik kayo s Davao Fr. hehehe
[kaya nga po ang tanong ko po sa mga CFD.
ReplyDeleteAng Relihiyon po ba na may ARAL ng PAGANO na ITINATAGUYOD ay IPAGIGING sa DIYOS po ba ng tao at ikaliligtas?]
ANG SAGOT AY HINDI.
SA AWA NG PANGINOONG JESUS HINDI MULA SA PAGANO ANG ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH MAGING ANG KANYANG MGA ARAL AT ANG AMING PAGSAMBA.
[PAKI SAGOT PO SANA NG CFD PLS
By: Jason Abalos]
PWEDE BA JANESA WAG NA TAYONG MAGLOKOHAN. MANLOLOKO KA E. PANGALAN NG ARTISTA YAN E. HE, HE, HE...
YOU ARE USING A FAKE NAME TO COVER YOUR ATTACKS AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE CFD. NAPAKA-WALANG HIYA MO NAMAN.
[Limited p po ang kaalaman ko
fr. so hoping you could answer his question.. baka may pag asa pang mkabalik yan s ating Simbahan.hehehe.. thank you po Fr. Abe..
helow nga po pala s lahat ng mga CFD's..especially s CFD -dvo.hehehe]
HE, HE, HE... I KNOW A SERPENT WHEN I SEE ONE JANESA AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE.
[Fr. Abe ito po questions ni Jason Abalos]
ReplyDeleteHE, HE, HE... FAKE NAME FOR AN ANTI-CATHOLIC.
[I tried to answer his question briefly pero hindi p po sya kontento.Im asking your help Fr.Abe so he could find his way back to our church.hehehe..salamat po]
THIS GUY IS NOT AFTER THE TRUTH. HE IS THERE TO ATTACK.
[Posted: July 26, 2010
isa pang tanong janesa wala kasi nagrereply dun sa isang site,
sa aklat katoliko na isinulat ng pari na ang pamagat ay:
“The externals of the catholic church” by: John F. Sullivan,p.226
“It is interesting to note how often OUR CHRUCH {Catholic Chruch} has availed herself of practices which were in common use among PAGANS,and which owed their origin their aproriateness for expressing something spiritual by material means.The CHRUCH and her clergy are ‘all things to all men,that they main gain all for christ.And she has often found that it was well to take what was PRAISEWORTHY in other forms of WORSHIP and adapt into her own purposes,for the sanctification of her children.”
Thus it is TRUE,in certain sence,that some CATHOLIC RITES and CEREMONIES are a REPRODUCTION OF THOSE OF PAGAN CREEDS;…”]
ANTI-CATHOLICS SUCH AS SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST, INC, ADD AND BORN AGAIN ARE FAMOUS FOR THEIR DISTORTED QUOTES FROM VARIOUS SOURCES. THIS QUOTE IS UNTRUSTWORTHY BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO PROVE THE VALIDITY OF THE QUOTE. WE ARE NOT EVEN SURE IF THE GUY HAS A GENUINE COPY OF THE BOOK.
UNLESS I CAN SEE THE BOOK FIRST HAND AND CHECK THE DETAILS THIS QUOTE IS A PIECE OF GARBAGE. IT DOES NO HAVE ANY VALUE.
IT IS JUST A CHEAP SHOT.
[Sa Pilipino:
“Kasiya siyang mapuna kung gaano kalimit pinakikinabangan ng ating {Iglesia Katolika} ang mga kaugaian na karaniwang ginagamit ng mga PAGANO,at nagmula ang mga ito sa kanilang kaangkupang magpahayag ng isang bagay na ukol sa espiritu sa pamamagitan ng praang panglaman.Ang iglesia at ang kanyang mga pari ay ang lahat ng bagay sa lahat ng tao,upang kanilang makamit ang lahat kay kristo at madalas niyang matagpuan na mabuting PULUTIN ang mga KAPURI PURI sa ibang mga uri ng PAGSAMBA at ilapat ito sa kanyang sarilng mga layunin para sa pagpapakabanl sa kanyang mga anak,”
“Kaya TOTOO sa isang kahulugan na ang ilang sa mga RITOS at CEREMONYA ng KATOLIKO ay HINANGO DOON sa mga PANANALIG PAGANO;….”]
THAT BOOK IS NEVER TRANSLATED INTO TAGALOG. THERE IS NO PUBLISHED COPY IN TAGALOG OR FILIPINO. HA, HA, HA...
SINONG NAGTRANSLATE NYAN? ANONG PUBLICATION ANG NAGLATHALA NG TAGALOG TRANSLATION NA YAN? NASAAN ANG AKLAT NA IYAN? HA, HA, HA...
MGA IMBENTO AT GAWA-GAWA LANG YAN. OBVIOUS NAMAN NA FAKE.
[Ayon po sa pari na sumulat ng aklat; ang Iglesia Katolika po NAMULOT KUMOPYA ng mga ARAL sa PAGANO.]
YAN AY GAWA-GAWA LANG NG IMPAKTO NA NAGKUKUNWARING SI JASON ABALOS. HE, HE,HE... HINDI TUTUO NA GANYAN ANG NAKASULAT SA AKLAT NA IYAN. LUMA NA YANG STYLE NA YAN. MGA BULOK. NAG KO QUOTE SA MGA LUMANG CATHOLIC BOOKS PARA HINDI MAHALATA NA PEKE ANG MGA SINIPI. HE, HE, HE...
[Ang Relihiyon po ba na may ARAL ng PAGANO na ITINATAGUYOD ay IPAGIGING sa DIYOS po ba ng tao at ikaliligtas?]
HINDI MAKAPAGLILIGTAS. ANG IGLESIA CATOLICA AY ANG TUNAY NA IGLESIANG ITINATAG NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO KAYA NAMAN ITO AY NAGTATAGLAY NG GRASYANG MAKAPAGLILIGTAS MULA KAY CRISTO.
[salamat po…]
SALAMAT DIN.
[Yan po ang mga katanungan nya Fr.. Pki sagot lng po Fr. Salamt po.]
WELCOME.
PAKUNWARI KA LANG YATA E. IKAW DIN YATA SI JASON ABALOS. HA, HA, HA... KUKUHA LANG KAYO NG APELYIDO YUN PANG SINUNGALING NA INVOLVED SA ZTE-SCANDAL NG GOBIERNONG ARROYO. HE, HE, HE...
[Janesa-Davao]
SABIHAN MO NA LANG SI JASON NA HAMUNIN ANG MGA DEBATES NG CFD-DAVAO SA PLAZA. NANDUON SILA EVERY SUNDAY EVENING SA PUBLIC PLAZA LOOKING FOR PASTORS TO DEBATE. KUNG GUSTO NYA KAMO AY ONE ONE ONE. HE, HE, HE...
Helow Fr.Abe,
ReplyDeletenkilala ko lng yang c Jason Abalos nung n punta ako s link ng debate s net ni G-one Paisones at Jason. nag comment lng po ako Fr.
Gusto ko man pong sagutin mga tanong nya kaso po liimited lng po n lalaman ko.. CFD din po ako s dvo.. pero ng aaral plng po ako ng doktrina ntin.. di ko po alam taga saan yang c jason n yan..dahil pag taga davao lng yan Fr., sila kuya ryan n mg gisa s kanya.hehehe..
Doubt nga po ako kong Paring katoliko po ng sulat nun.hehehe.. salamat s mga reply nyo po Fr.. lage po akong bumibisita s blog nyo dito at marami po akong n tutunan.sana mkabalik uli kayo s Dvo at mag misa uli ng TLM. minsan lng kasi kmi mk attend ng TLM s Dvo.hehehe
[From Jason Abalos
ReplyDeletePosted: July 27, 2010]
GALING NA NAMAN SA SINUNGALING NA NAGTATAGO NG PAGKATAO. HE, HE, HE...
[dati catholic ako,MASUSI ko pong pinag aralan SUNURI ang CATHOLIC CHRUCH bagu ako lumipat ng ibang relihiyon, wala nmng dahilan pra magsinungaling ako sa site na to itataya ko relihiyon ko ngaun kung kasinungalingan at inimbento ko lang yang aklat niong yan,and im sure na AKLAT KATOLIKO yan!]
ANG TITLE NG AKLAT AY TAMA. PERO ANG QUOTATIONS AY PEKE. HE, HE, HE...
[at PARING KATOLIKO ang sumulat nyan! bkt po ninyo na itinatanggi na hindi nyo aklat yan?]
ITINATANGGI NAMIN ANG NAKASULAT DYAN. GAWA-GAWA MO LANG YAN. KAHIT SYA MISMO E WALANG KOPYA NYAN. YAN AY GALING LANG SA MGA PASTOR NYANG WALA RING KOPYA NG AKLAT NA IYAN.
[pede nio po search yan sa mga libraby tulad ng ginawa ko.]
SAANG LIBRARY KA NAG-RESEARCH? HE, HE,HE... PAKI SABI NAMAN.
[panu po kung mapatunayan ko na kumopya at namulot ng aral ang catholic chruch sa PAGANO??? dare ko po kayo at ang cfd?!]
HA, HA, HA... ANG YABANG. KUNG PATUNAYAN ANG GUSTO MO DAPAT IPAKITA MO SA AMIN ANG AKLAT. HARAPIN MO ANG CFD SA ONE ON ONE DEBATE. DALHIN MO ANG KOPYA MO NG MGA AKLAT NA YAN.
PAPANO NAMIN MAKIKITA KUNG MAY TUTUONG AKLAT KA AT TAMA ANG NAKASULAT DYAN KUNG SA INTERNET LANG. HE, HE, HE...
[eto po ang mga halimbawa sa mga ARAL PAGANO na kinopya at itinataguyod ng CATHOLIC.]
TIGNAN NGA. HE, HE, HE...
[sa isang AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin na isinulat ng PARI
“The two Babylons” by: Rev.Alexander Hislop,p.187]
HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... SI ALEXANDER HISLOP AY HINDI PARING CATOLICO. SIYA AY ANTI CATHOLIC PRESBYTERIAN, A SCOTTISH THEOLOGIAN. HA, HA, HA...
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.... SINUNGALING, SINUNGALING, SINUNGALING. HA, HA, HA... HULING HULI KA ANO?
CHECK THIS:
"The Two Babylons is an anti-Catholic conspiracy theory based religious pamphlet produced initially by the Scottish theologian and Presbyterian Alexander Hislop in 1853. It was later expanded in 1858 and finally published as a book in 1919. Its central theme is its allegation that the Catholic Church is a veiled continuation of the pagan religion of Babylon, the veiled paganism being the product of a millennia old conspiracy.[1][2] It has been recognized by scholars as discredited and has been called a "tribute to historical inaccuracy and know-nothing religious bigotry" with "shoddy scholarship, blatant dishonesty" and a "nonsensical thesis".[3][4]" [WIKIPEDIA]
cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Two_Babylons
[“The ROSARY and the worship of the sacred heart.Everyone knows how throughly romanist is the use of ROSARY;and how the devotees of ROME mechanically teel their prayers upon their BEADS,The ROSARY,however,IS NOT INVENTION OF THE PAPACY.It is of highest antiquity,AND ALMOST UNIVERSALLY FOUND AMONG PAGAN NATIONS.The ROSARY was used as a sacred instrument among the BRAMINS of HINDUSTAN; and in the HINDOO sacred BOOKS refence is made to it AGAIN and AGAIN.”]
WALA NA. DISCREDITED KA NA. A LIE IN ONE IS A LIE IN ALL. HA, HA, HA... SA AUTHOR PA LANG MANLOLOKO KA NA E DI MANLOLOKO KA RIN SA CONTENT. HA, HA, HA...
[Sa Pilipino;
“Ang ROSARYO at ang pagsamba sa banal na puso {SAGRADA CORAZON}.Nalalaman ng bawat isa kung paano ganap na ROMANISTA ang paggamit ng ROSARYO;at kung paano ng ang mga deboto ng roma ay parang makinang umuusad ng kanilang mga dasal sa pamamagitan ng mga BUTIL.Ang ROSARYO,gayunpaman ay HINDI LIKHA ng KAPAPAHAN.Ito ay NAPAKATAGAL NA,at halos LAGANAP NA MATATAGPUAN sa mga BANSANG PAGANO.Ang rosaryo at ginamit bilang isang banal na kasangkapan ng mga brahmins ng hindustan;at sa mga banal na aklat ng mga hindoo ay BINABANGGIT ITONG PAULIT ULIT.”]
KITAM, BALIW NA TALAGA ITO. "ROMANISTA" DAW. HA, HA, HA... E ANG BIBLIA AY "ROMANISTA"... MERON ITONG SULAT SA MGA TAGA ROMA. HA, HA, HA... ANG ROMA AY ISANG CENTRO NG PANANAMPALATAYANG CATOLICO NUONG PANAHON NG MGA APOSTOL. HA, HA, HA...
[ayon sa inyong aklat ang ROSARYO ay HINDI LIKHA NG KAPAPAHAN.]
ReplyDeleteHA, HA, HA... "KAPAPAHAN"... HA, HA, HA... DYAN PA LANG AY PINAPAKITA NA ANG JASON ABALOS NA IYAN AY IGNORANTE SA ARAL CATOLICO KASI HINDI NYA ALAM ANG TAGALOG TRANSLATION NG PAPACY.
[Ito ay NAPAKATAGAL NA,LAGANAP NA MATATAGPUAN SA MGA BANSANG PAGANO.]
TALAGA? HA, HA, HA... MAY DEVOTION SA SAGRADO CORAZON DE JESUS ANG MGA PAGANO? HA, HA, HA... SINONG MGA PAGANO ANG MAY DEVOTION SA SACRED HEART OF JESUS? HA, HA, HA... NAKAKATAWA TALAGA.
[Ang totoo HINDI pa man ginagamit ng CATHOLIC ang ROSARYO,ay may NAUNA ng GUMAMIT ng ROSARYO at ito nga ay sa mga bansang PAGANO.]
TALAGA? ANONG PAGAN RELIGION ANG NAGDADASAL NG "HAIL MARY"? OUR FATHER? GLORY BE TO THE FATHER AND TO THE SON AND TO THE HOLY SPIRIT? HA, HA, HA... PAKI SABI NGA?
[kaya sabi pa ng AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin tungkol sa ROSARYO ay;
“Catholic Dictionary” by: Addis and Arnolds,p.717]
HA, HA, HA... NAPAKATANGA E NALATHALA ANG AKLAT NA ITO NOONG 1888.
[“The practice of using BEADS,etc,as a help to memory in reciting a set number of prayers IS NOT DISTINCTIVELY CHRISTIAN,but it has long existed in the CATHOLIC CHRUCH.”]
HA, HA, HA... HALATANG PEKE KASI ANG WAY OF WRITING AND EXPRESSIONS NITO AY HINDI PROPER FOR 1888. HA, HA, HA...
HINDI TUTUONG SINULAT YAN SA ORIGINAL NA AKLAT NA IYAN SAPAGKAT ANG PANINIWALA NG CATHOLIC CHURCH AY "ANG RCC ANG TUNAY NA CHRISTIAN CHURCH". KUMUKUHA LAMANG NG TITLE NG MGA LUMAN AKLAT PARA MAKAPANLOKO. KASI MAHIRAP I-CHECK ANG MGA VERY OLD BOOKS. HA, HA, HA...
[Sa Pilipino;
“Ang kaugalian sa paggamit ng mga BUTIL,at iba pa,bilang tulong sa memorya sa pagbigkas ng ilang bilang ng mga panalangin AY HINDI ISANG KAUGALIANG IKAKIKILALA SA MGA KRISTIYANO,subalit ito ay matagal ng umiiral sa IGLESIA KATOLIKA.”]
ANG AKLAT NA IYAN AY HINDI NALIMBAG SA FILIPINO KAYA PEKE NA NAMAN ANG SALIN NA YAN. HE, HE, HE...
[ayon inyong aklat mismo ang pag ROROSARYO ay
HINDI ISANG KAUGALIANG IKAKIKILALA SA MGA KRISTIYANO dahil nga po sa PAGANO ITO kinuha..]
WALANG GANYANG SINASABI ANG AMING MGA AKLAT. PEKE ANG MGA QUOTATIONS.
PASENSYA KA NA JARESA KUNG PATI IKAW AY NAPAGKAMALAN KO. KASI PURO KASINUNGALINGAN ANG PINAGSUSULAT. TAPOS ANG MGA AKLAT NA GINAGAMIT AY IYON PANG LUMANG LUMA NA PARA HINDI NATIN MA CHECK. HE, HE, HE...
ReplyDeleteHelow po Fr.Abe
ReplyDeletemay Clarification lng po ako Fr... Pag ang isang katoliko po n lumabas s ating simbahan tapos ng p baptize s ibang sekta, invalid n po ba ang baptism nya s catholic? di ba po s nicene creed ntin, 'we believed in one pabtism for the forgiveness of sin' ? invalid po ang baptism nila s ibang secta ng simbahan kasi po n Baptize n sya s Catholic?hehehe..
Salamat po Fr.
okay lng po Fr. naintindihan ko po..marami nga nman ang ng kukunwari s blog nyo.hehehe.midyo nagulat lng po s sagot nyo.hehehe.. pero wala pong anu man yon Fr. hehehe.. sana bisita k uli s Davao.hehehe
ReplyDelete[Cont. From: Jason Abalos]
ReplyDeleteSANA BENHUR ABALOS NA LANG PARA MAS SIKAT. HE, HE, HE..
[isa pa rin AKLAT KATOLIKO;
“Catholic Dictionary” by: Addis and Arnolds,p.600
“Novena {from novem,nine}The practice of dedicating a period of nine days to special prayer or devotion PROBABLY ORIGINATED FROM PAGAN CUSTOMS.”]
HA, HA, HA... MANLOLOKO KA RIN LANG NAG "PROBABLY" KA PA. HA, HA, HA...
[Sa Pilipino;
“Novena {mula sa novem,siyam.} Ang pagtatalaga ng siyam na araw para sa natatanging panalangin o debosyon na MALAMANG NA NAGGALING SA MGA KAUGALIANG PAGANO.”]
WALANG TAGALOG VERSION ANG AKLAT NA IYAN. IMBENTO LANG ITO.
[Pati po NOVENA sa PAGANO din po galing.]
HA, HA, HA... WALA PA AKONG NAKITANG PAGANO NA NAGNONOVENA AT NAGROROSARYO. ANG MGA EGYPTIANS BA AY NAGNONOVENA? KANINO? KAY MAMA MARY O KAY ST. JUDE? HA, HA, HA...
[Kaya nga ang mga PAG AMIN ng mga PARING KATOLIKO sa mga AKLAT na kanilang isinulat at ang DAMDAMIN NILA sa kanilang pangongopya ng mga aral sa PAGANO ay ganinto.]
WALANG PAG-AMIN KASI PEKE ANG MGA QUOTES MO. AT PATI ANG ANTI CATHOLIC NA PRESBYTERIAN NA SI HISLOP AY GINAWA MONG CATHOLIC. NO, NO, NO...
[isang AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin ;
ReplyDeleteThe Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.166
“She does not hesitate even to take over PAGAN RITUAL and PAGAN SYMBOLS,Whenever such things can be christianized and reformed.”]
NGAYON, HULING HULI KITA SA KASINUNGALINGAN AT KAHAYUPAN MO DEMONYO KA. DAHIL MAY PERSONAL NA COPYA AKO NG AKLAT NA IYAN.
ANG NAKASULAT NA TOPIC SA PAGE 166 AY TUNGKOL SA SUPERNATURAL ORIGIN OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH IS NO OTHER THAN CRIST THE LORD.
HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... SINUNGALING, SINUNGALING, SINUNGALING.
[Sa Pilipino;
“Siya {ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA} ay hindi man lamang nag aatubiling KUMUHA ng mga RITUWAL at ng mga SAGISAG PAGANO.Kailan mat ang gayung mga bagay ay maaaring isa kristiano at maisaayos.”]
WALANG TAGALOG VERSION ANG AKLAT NA ITO. GAWA-GAWA MO LAMANG IYAN.
[The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.2
We CATHOLICS acknowledge readily,WITHOUT ANY SHAME,MAY WITH PRIDE,That CATHOLICISM cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive christianity,NOR EVEN WITH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST,…”]
HA, HA, HA... PINUTOL MO ANG QUOTE. ITO ANG KUMPLETO:
"We Catholics acknowledge readily without any shame, nay with pride, that Catholicism cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive Christianity, nor even with the gospel of Christ, in the same way that the great oak cannot be identified with the tiny acorn."
HA, HA, HA... ANG IBIG SABIHIN ANG CATHOLICISM NGAYON AY LUMAGO NA AT LUMAGANAP TULAD NG PUNO NA LUMAKI MULA SA PAGIGING BINHI. WALANG SINASABI DYAN NA GALING ANG CATHOLICISM SA PAGANISM KUNDI ITO ANG IGLESIANG TINATAG NI CRISTO NA LUMAGO NA:
"For the Catholic is intimately conscious that Catholicism is ever the same, yesterday and today, that its essential nature was already present and manifest when it began its journey through the world, THAT CHRIST HIMSELF BREATHED INTO IT THE BREATH OF LIFE, AND THAT HE HIMSELF AT THE SAME TIME GAVE THE YOUNG ORGANISM THOSE GERMINAL APTITUDES that have unfolded themselves in the course of the centuries in regular adaptation to the needs and requirements of its environment." [Spirit of Catholicism by Karl Adam p. 3]
MALINAW NA INIHAHALINTULAD LAMANG NI KARL ADAM ANG SANTA IGLESIA SA ISANG ORGANIZMO NA BINIGYANB BUHAY NI JESUS AT MULA SA BUHAY NA ITO AY LUMAKI AT LUMAGO SA KASAYSAYAN. IMPOSIBLENG SABIHIN NI KARL ADAM NA GALING SA PAGANO ANG CATHOLICISM DAHIL SINABI NA NIYA NA SI CRISTO ANG NAGBIGAY DITO NG HININGA NG BUHAY. AT HINDI LANG IYON, LAHAT NG BAGAY NA HINDI SUMASANG-AYON SA ORIGINAL NA BUHAY NG SANTA IGLESIA AY HINDI NYA MAAARING TANGGAPIN:
"Catholicism recognizes in itself NO element that is inwardly FOREIGN to it, that is NOT OF ITSELF, that DOES NOT DERIVE FROM ITS ORIGINAL NATURE." [Ibid., p.3]
[Sa Pilipino;
Tinatanggap naming mga KATOLIKO kapag karaka,NG WALANG ANUMANG IKAHIHIYA,BAGKUS MY PAGMAMALAKI na sa anumang paraan ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO;…”]
PEKENG TRANSLATION.
[“What Catholics Believe and Why” by John Gilland Brunini,p.316
ReplyDeletesa pilipino na..
“Sa kanyang {IGLESIA KATOLIKA} mga PAMAMARAANG HINIRAM sa MARAMING mga PINAGKUNAN mula sa pamamaraang panrelihiyon ng mga hudyo,mula sa ROMANO,samakatuwid ay PAGANO,panrelihiyon at sibil na mga pamamaraan,…”]
BAKIT SA PILIPINO NA. HINDI NAMAN NALATHALA SA PILIPINO ANG AKLAT NA ITO. HE, HE, HE...
NILOLOKO MO NA NAMAN KAMI.
[yan po ay ILAN lamang.. ang totoo marami pa sana akong ipopost kaso lang medyo masakit na kasi mata ko.]
SUMASAKIT ANG MATA MO DAHIL SA NGA KASINUNGALING IYONG GINAWA. YAN AY BUNGA NG KASALANAN.
[Hindi po ako galit sa CATHOLIC CHRUCH o sa mga PARI o sa sinomang KATOLIKO po..]
KAIPOCRITOHAN.
[TAYO po at galit sa MALING ARAL,siguro nmn po ay sang ayon kayo dun..]
DAPAT MAGALIT KA SA IYONG SARILI KASI SINUNGALING KA.
[sana po ay laliman ninyo ang pagsusuri..]
OO NGA. NAKITA NAMIN NA MABABAW ANG MGA ATAKE MO.
[salamat po..]
SALAMAT DIN.
[kaya nga po ang tanong ko po sa mga CFD.
Ang Relihiyon po ba na may ARAL ng PAGANO na ITINATAGUYOD ay IPAGIGING sa DIYOS po ba ng tao at ikaliligtas?]
ANG PAGANONG RELIHIYON AY HINDI MAKAKAPAGLITAS. SUBALIT ANG IGLESIA CATOLICA AY MAKAPAGLILIGTAS DAHIL GAYA NG SABI NI KARL ADAM, SI CRISTO ANG NAGTAYO AT PINAGMULAN NITO HINDI PAGANO.
[PAKI SAGOT PO SANA NG CFD PLS]
NASAGOT NA.
[http://catholicfaithdefender.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/sino-ba-ang-babae-sa-revelation-12/]
TELL HIM THAT I AM WILLING TO ENGAGE HIM HERE ON REVELATION 12.
[Fr.Abe inimbita ko n po sya dito s website nyo..para po malaman nya ang mga kasagutan s mga tanong nya.para maliwanagan bpo.hehehehe.
nag aaral p po ako s mga doctrina ntin Fr. hehehe..]
VERY GOOD. I HOPE PUMASOK SIYA DITO.
[sana makabalik kayo s Davao Fr. hehehe]
SANA NGA.
[may Clarification lng po ako Fr... Pag ang isang katoliko po n lumabas s ating simbahan tapos ng p baptize s ibang sekta, invalid n po ba ang baptism nya s catholic?]
ReplyDeleteHINDI IT WILL REMAIN VALID FOREVER.
[di ba po s nicene creed ntin, 'we believed in one pabtism for the forgiveness of sin' ?]
CORRECT
[invalid po ang baptism nila s ibang secta ng simbahan kasi po n Baptize n sya s Catholic?hehehe..]
YES, INVALID BAPTISM NYA SA SECTANG IYON. PERO HE BECAME A TRAITOR NA SA FAITH. HE IS NOW A HERETIC AND APOSTATE.
[Salamat po Fr.]
WELCOME
Hi Fr.Abe,
ReplyDeleteIt seems that this discussion is somewhat related to Divine revelation. Let me put it this way. When God revealed Himself to mankind it is a gradual process. God gradually reveal His teachings in every generation, and since it is a gradual process some fragments of divine revelation is made evidently present in every culture and religion before the fullness of His revelation was completely revealed. The reason for this is to prepare those people from various cultures and religion in order to accept the fullness of God's revelation.
Take for example
People created their gods before God completely reveal Himself.
>their idea that a supreme being exist is an effect of the fragments of divine revelation.
>their idea of a "god" is imperfect, the complete and perfect revelation of God is the Christian God.
>Divine revelation is a process. Thus we cannot say that the complete revelation of God in the Catholic Church is borrowed from pagans.
Fr. Abe, CRS said…
ReplyDeletePWEDE BA JANESA WAG NA TAYONG MAGLOKOHAN. MANLOLOKO KA E. PANGALAN NG ARTISTA YAN E. HE, HE,
YOU ARE USING A FAKE NAME TO COVER YOUR ATTACKS AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE CFD. NAPAKA-WALANG HIYA MO NAMAN.
HE, HE, HE… I KNOW A SERPENT WHEN I SEE ONE JANESA AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE
jason: janesa MANLOLOKO ka raw??! at WALANG HIYA! ka raw sabi ni Fr. Abe,Biruin mo kakampi mu cia at sinusubukan mong humingi ng SAGOT sa mga katanungan na binigay ko tpos MUMURAHIN kapa??tsaka anu ba nmng PARI yan NAGMUMURA?? Parang walang Espiritu kung magsalita!
Fr. Abe, CRS said…
THAT BOOK IS NEVER TRANSLATED INTO TAGALOG. THERE IS NO PUBLISHED COPY IN TAGALOG OR FILIPINO. HA, HA, HA…
SINONG NAGTRANSLATE NYAN? ANONG PUBLICATION ANG NAGLATHALA NG TAGALOG TRANSLATION NA YAN? NASAAN ANG AKLAT NA IYAN? HA, HA, HA…
MGA IMBENTO AT GAWA-GAWA LANG YAN. OBVIOUS NAMAN NA FAKE.
jason: ako lang nagtagalog para maintindihan ng ilan,bkt?? tama nmn pagtatranslate ko ah! MALI ba?? saktong sakto ahh! sabihin NIO kung MALI pagkakatranslate ko? Ang sabihin nio MAGALING LANG AKO MAGTAGALOG! HAHAHA
Di ba kayo katawa tawa?! haha! sa isang pagkakataon TINATANGGI nio ang mga AKLAT nio kaysa GAWA GAWA lang INIMBENTO,tpos sa isang pagkakataon din tinanggap nio at PINANGANGATUWIRANAN nio nmn… ANU BA TLGA Fr.?? hahahahaha!
Fr. Abe, CRS said…
ANG TITLE NG AKLAT AY TAMA. PERO ANG QUOTATIONS AY PEKE. HE, HE, HE..
jason: PEKE?? Pede nio ba i post d2 lahat ng PINOST ko na mga AKLAT nio at QUOTATION nito? para nmn malaman ng TAO kung sino NAGSISINUNGALING satin Fr. Abe,kapag wala kayong pinakita TITINGDIGAN ko Fr. Abe,kayo ang SINUNGALING! OBVIOUS nmn! na HINDI nio ALAM yang mga aklat na yan! at HIRAP na HIRAP kayo kung paano SASAGUTIN at LULUSUTAN yang mga AKLAT KATOLIKO na pinagsusulat ng pari. HALATA na yan ng TAO d2,kaya laliman nio PAGHAHANAP ng makita nio.Halata rin nmn na PIKON na kayo..hehe,Kung baga BUTATA na kayo HUMIHIRIT pa kayo!
TLGA NMNG NANGOPYA KAYO NG ARAL SA PAGANO AHH,ETO PA MGA AKLAT NIO.
ReplyDelete“Catholic Dictionary” by: Addis and Arnolds,p.600
“Novena {from novem,nine}The practice of dedicating a period of nine days to special prayer or devotion PROBABLY ORIGINATED FROM PAGAN CUSTOMS.”
Sa Pilipino;
“Novena {mula sa novem,siyam.} Ang pagtatalaga ng siyam na araw para sa natatanging panalangin o debosyon na MALAMANG NA NAGGALING SA MGA KAUGALIANG PAGANO.”
Pati po NOVENA sa PAGANO din po galing.
Kaya nga ang mga PAG AMIN ng mga PARING KATOLIKO sa mga AKLAT na kanilang isinulat at ang DAMDAMIN NILA sa kanilang pangongopya ng mga aral sa PAGANO ay ganinto.
isang AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin ;
The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.166
“She does not hesitate even to take over PAGAN RITUAL and PAGAN SYMBOLS,Whenever such things can be christianized and reformed.”
Sa Pilipino;
“Siya {ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA} ay hindi man lamang nag aatubiling KUMUHA ng mga RITUWAL at ng mga SAGISAG PAGANO.Kailan mat ang gayung mga bagay ay maaaring isa kristiano at maisaayos.”
We CATHOLICS acknowledge readily,WITHOUT ANY SHAME,MAY WITH PRIDE,That CATHOLICISM cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive christianity,NOR EVEN WITH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST,…”
Sa Pilipino;
Tinatanggap naming mga KATOLIKO kapag karaka,NG WALANG ANUMANG IKAHIHIYA,BAGKUS MY PAGMAMALAKI na sa anumang paraan ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO;…”
Yan ang sabi ng aklat nio! HINDI KAYO NAHIHIYA! MAY PAGMAMALAKI PA KAYO,kahit aral ng PAGANO PROUD KAYO!
“What Catholics Believe and Why” by John Gilland Brunini,p.316
sa pilipino na..
“Sa kanyang {IGLESIA KATOLIKA} mga PAMAMARAANG HINIRAM sa MARAMING mga PINAGKUNAN mula sa pamamaraang panrelihiyon ng mga hudyo,mula sa ROMANO,samakatuwid ay PAGANO,panrelihiyon at sibil na mga pamamaraan,…”
Fr. Abe,IMBES NA MAGPALUSOT KAYO NA HINDI NIO MGA AKLAT YAN, SAGUTIN NIO NALANG…AT KUNG TINATANGGI NIO NA HINDI NIO AKLAT YAN EH,EDI POST NIO D2 KUNG PINEPEKE KO MGA AKLAT NIYO! POST NYU ORIGINAL KUNG 22O SINASABI NIO!
Fr. Abe,MAGHANDA NA KAYO AT SIGURADO AKO MAMIMILIPIT KAYO SA PAGSAGOT SA MGA IPOPOST KU PA D2 GALING SA MGA AKLAT NYO,SIGURADO AKO MAGPAPALUSOT NA NMN KAYO..
JANESA LALIMAN MU RIN PAGSUSURI NA TULAD NG GINAWA KO,GABAYAN KA NG DIYOS SA PAGSUSURI..
DI PO AKO GALIT SA INYO Fr. Abe,AT SA SINUMANG KATOLIKO,KALABAN PO TAYO NG MALING ARAL,YAN PO AY SANG AYON KAYO CGURO..
INTAYIN KO NALANG PO SAGOT NINYO..SALAMAT..
[jason: janesa MANLOLOKO ka raw??! at WALANG HIYA! ka raw sabi ni Fr. Abe,Biruin mo kakampi mu cia at sinusubukan mong humingi ng SAGOT sa mga katanungan na binigay ko tpos MUMURAHIN kapa??tsaka anu ba nmng PARI yan NAGMUMURA?? Parang walang Espiritu kung magsalita!]
ReplyDeleteHINDI KO KILALA SI JANESA. NAGPADALA SYA SA AKIN NG MGA MENSAHENG NAGLALAMAN NG ATAKE SA AMING PANANAMPALATAYA USING A FAKE NAME LIKE 'Jason Abalos'. IT IS THEREFEORE REASONABLE FOR ME TO DOUBT HER SINCERITY AND HER INTENTIONS.
NAGMUMURA. SO IT IS NOW CURSING WHEN YOU TELL A PERSON ATTACKING YOU AT THE BACK 'SHAMELESS'. THAT IS NOT CURSING THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE WORD FOR YOU AND YOUR LIKE. IT SO HAPPENED THAT JANESA CAME OUT TO BE A CATHOLIC, A YOUNG CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDER OF THAT. AND THEREFORE THOSE WORDS AUTOMATICALLY DO NOT APPLY TO HER. BUT THEY APPLY TO YOU.
YOU ARE HIDING YOURSELF IN THE MASK BECAUSE YOUR WORK IS OF THE DARK... YOU ARE TELLING LIES AND JANESA WAS DOUBTFUL OF YOUR CLAIMS. HE, HE, HE... THAT IS WHY SHE PREFERRED TO ASK A PRIEST WHO HAS BETTER CREDIBILITY THAN YOU ARE.
IF YOU ARE PRESENTING THE TRUTH WHY GO HIDDEN. WHY NOT REVEAL YOURSELF. YOU NEED YOUR MASK SO THAT EVEN IF YOU WILL BE FOUND LYING AND DECEIVING IT WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR REPUTATION. HA, HA, HA... WHAT A DEVIL LIKE ATTITUDE. LIKE A SERPENT WAITING AT THE DARK.
[jason: ako lang nagtagalog para maintindihan ng ilan,bkt?? tama nmn pagtatranslate ko ah! MALI ba??]
SIEMPRE MALI. KASI ANG SINALIN MO AY PEKENG NILALAMAN NG AKLAT. HA, HA, HA... MAPAPATUNAYAN MO LANG NA TAMA YAN KUNG IPAKIKITA MO ANG MISMONG AKLAT KAY JANESA. KAYA JANESA HAMUNIN MO ITONG AHAS NA ITO NA LUMABAS SA DILIM. MAGPAKILALA AT IPAKITA SA IYO ANG AKLAT AT ANG NAKASULAT SA AKLAT. DAHIL ANG TAONG IYAN AY WALANG KOPYA NG AKLAT NA IYAN AT HINDI TUTUONG GANYAN ANG NILALAMAN NG MGA NASABING AKLAT.
[saktong sakto ahh! sabihin NIO kung MALI pagkakatranslate ko? Ang sabihin nio MAGALING LANG AKO MAGTAGALOG! HAHAHA]
ReplyDeleteHA, HA, HA... SAKTONG SAKTO SA IYONG GUNI-GUNI AT HALUSINASYON. PAG MALI ANG ISINALIN, MALI ANG SALIN. HA, HA, HA...
[Di ba kayo katawa tawa?! haha!]
IKAW ANG KATAWA-TAWA. DAHIL NAPATUNAYAN NAMIN NA NAGSISINUNGALING KA. DUON SA SPIRIT OF CATHOLICISM PA LANG AY PALPAK KA NA. A LIE IN ONE IS A LIE ON ALL. YAN ANG DAHILAN KUNG BAKIT NAGTATAGO KA SA PANGALAN NG ARTISTA PARA PAGTAKPAN ANG PANLOLOKO MO. HINDI NAMAN BALIW SI JANESA NA PANIWALAAN ANG ISANG TAONG PATI IDENTITY NYA AY HINDI MAIPAKITA.
[sa isang pagkakataon TINATANGGI nio ang mga AKLAT nio kaysa GAWA GAWA lang INIMBENTO,tpos sa isang pagkakataon din tinanggap nio at PINANGANGATUWIRANAN nio nmn… ANU BA TLGA Fr.?? hahahahaha!]
HA, HA, HA... ANG DRAMA NITO. HA, HA, HA... ANG TITULO NG MGA AKLAT AT ANG AUTHORS AY TAMA. SUBALIT ANG QUOTATIONS AY PEKE. DISTORTED AT MISQUOTED. HA, HA, HA...
[jason: PEKE?? Pede nio ba i post d2 lahat ng PINOST ko na mga AKLAT nio at QUOTATION nito? para nmn malaman ng TAO kung sino NAGSISINUNGALING satin Fr. Abe,kapag wala kayong pinakita TITINGDIGAN ko Fr. Abe,kayo ang SINUNGALING!]
HA, HA, HA... BALIW KA PALA E. IKAW ANG NAGCLAIM NG MGA AKLAT NA IYAN. TAPOS AKO ANG HIHINGAN MO NA IPAKITA ANG AKLAT. HA, HA, HA... IKAW ANG NAGSASABI NA YAN ANG LAMAN NG MGA AKLAT IKAW ANG MAGPATUNAY.
KUNG TITINDIGAN MO YAN E DI TINDIGAN MO YAN KAY JANESA. SIYA ANG KINUKUMBINSI NATIN. MAGKITA KITA TAYO NILA JANESA SA PLAZA NG DAVAO. DAHIL MO ANG MGA AKLAT MO. AT TITIGNAN NAMIN. DAHIL ANG MGA PINAGSASABI MO AY HINDI ARAL NG IGLESIA CATOLICA. AT HINDI NILAMAN NG MGA AKLAT NA IYAN.
[OBVIOUS nmn! na HINDI nio ALAM yang mga aklat na yan!]
TANGA KA PALA E. HINDI NAMAN SA MGA AKLAT NA IYAN NAKASULAT ANG OPISYAL NA ARAL NG IGLESIA CATOLICA E. KUNDI SA CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...
WE ARE NOT OBLIGED TO READ AND KNOW ALL THE CATHOLIC BOOKS IN THE WORLD. AND WE ARE NOT OBLIGED TO BELIEVE THEM ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE MERE PERSONAL OPINION OF THE AUTHORS. OUR OFFICIAL DOCTRINES ARE CONTAINED IN OUR OFFICIAL BOOK - THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[at HIRAP na HIRAP kayo kung paano SASAGUTIN at LULUSUTAN yang mga AKLAT KATOLIKO na pinagsusulat ng pari.]
HA, HA, HA... PAPANONG MAHIRAP E PEKE NGA. PANO KA NAMIN PANINIWALAAN PANGALAN MO PA LANG PEKE NA. PEKE ANG IDENTITY MO, E DI PEKE DIN ANG CLAIMS MO. PEKE ANG QUOTATIONS MO, PEKE DIN ANG TRANSLATIONS MO. HA, HA, HA...
[HALATA na yan ng TAO d2,kaya laliman nio PAGHAHANAP ng makita nio.Halata rin nmn na PIKON na kayo..hehe,Kung baga BUTATA na kayo HUMIHIRIT pa kayo!]
HA, HA, HA... HALATA NANG MGA TAO DITO NA PEKE KA. SA PANGALAN PA LANG PEKE NA. PAPANO KAMI MAGIGING BUTATA E IKAW ITONG BUTATA. MAY PERSONAL NA KOPYA AKO NG SPIRIT OF CATHOLICISM AT WALA ANG QUOTE MO SA P. 166 KUNO. PATI SARILI MO HANDA MONG LOKOHIN.
[Fr. Abe,IMBES NA MAGPALUSOT KAYO NA HINDI NIO MGA AKLAT YAN,]
ReplyDeleteHA, HA, HA... MALALA NA ANG SIRA NITO. GUSTONG PALABASIN NA DINEDENY NATIN ANG MGA AKLAT NATIN. ANG TAMA LANG DYAN SA MGA QUOTES MO AY ANG MGA TITULO AT PANGALAN NG MAY AKDA. ANG MGA QUOTES AY PEKE AT DISTORTIONS.
[isang AKLAT KATOLIKO pa rin ;
The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.166
“She does not hesitate even to take over PAGAN RITUAL and PAGAN SYMBOLS,Whenever such things can be christianized and reformed.”]
NGAYON, HULING HULI KITA SA KASINUNGALINGAN AT KAHAYUPAN MO DEMONYO KA. DAHIL MAY PERSONAL NA COPYA AKO NG AKLAT NA IYAN.
ANG NAKASULAT NA TOPIC SA PAGE 166 AY TUNGKOL SA SUPERNATURAL ORIGIN OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH IS NO OTHER THAN CRIST THE LORD.
HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... SINUNGALING, SINUNGALING, SINUNGALING.
[Sa Pilipino;
“Siya {ANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA} ay hindi man lamang nag aatubiling KUMUHA ng mga RITUWAL at ng mga SAGISAG PAGANO.Kailan mat ang gayung mga bagay ay maaaring isa kristiano at maisaayos.”]
WALANG TAGALOG VERSION ANG AKLAT NA ITO. GAWA-GAWA MO LAMANG IYAN.
[The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.2
We CATHOLICS acknowledge readily,WITHOUT ANY SHAME,MAY WITH PRIDE,That CATHOLICISM cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive christianity,NOR EVEN WITH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST,…”]
HA, HA, HA... PINUTOL MO ANG QUOTE. ITO ANG KUMPLETO:
"We Catholics acknowledge readily without any shame, nay with pride, that Catholicism cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive Christianity, nor even with the gospel of Christ, in the same way that the great oak cannot be identified with the tiny acorn."
HA, HA, HA... ANG IBIG SABIHIN ANG CATHOLICISM NGAYON AY LUMAGO NA AT LUMAGANAP TULAD NG PUNO NA LUMAKI MULA SA PAGIGING BINHI. WALANG SINASABI DYAN NA GALING ANG CATHOLICISM SA PAGANISM KUNDI ITO ANG IGLESIANG TINATAG NI CRISTO NA LUMAGO NA:
"For the Catholic is intimately conscious that Catholicism is ever the same, yesterday and today, that its essential nature was already present and manifest when it began its journey through the world, THAT CHRIST HIMSELF BREATHED INTO IT THE BREATH OF LIFE, AND THAT HE HIMSELF AT THE SAME TIME GAVE THE YOUNG ORGANISM THOSE GERMINAL APTITUDES that have unfolded themselves in the course of the centuries in regular adaptation to the needs and requirements of its environment." [Spirit of Catholicism by Karl Adam p. 3]
MALINAW NA INIHAHALINTULAD LAMANG NI KARL ADAM ANG SANTA IGLESIA SA ISANG ORGANIZMO NA BINIGYANB BUHAY NI JESUS AT MULA SA BUHAY NA ITO AY LUMAKI AT LUMAGO SA KASAYSAYAN. IMPOSIBLENG SABIHIN NI KARL ADAM NA GALING SA PAGANO ANG CATHOLICISM DAHIL SINABI NA NIYA NA SI CRISTO ANG NAGBIGAY DITO NG HININGA NG BUHAY. AT HINDI LANG IYON, LAHAT NG BAGAY NA HINDI SUMASANG-AYON SA ORIGINAL NA BUHAY NG SANTA IGLESIA AY HINDI NYA MAAARING TANGGAPIN:
"Catholicism recognizes in itself NO element that is inwardly FOREIGN to it, that is NOT OF ITSELF, that DOES NOT DERIVE FROM ITS ORIGINAL NATURE." [Ibid., p.3]
[Sa Pilipino;
Tinatanggap naming mga KATOLIKO kapag karaka,NG WALANG ANUMANG IKAHIHIYA,BAGKUS MY PAGMAMALAKI na sa anumang paraan ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO;…”]
PEKENG TRANSLATION.
[Fr. Abe,IMBES NA MAGPALUSOT KAYO NA HINDI NIO MGA AKLAT YAN, SAGUTIN NIO NALANG…AT KUNG TINATANGGI NIO NA HINDI NIO AKLAT YAN EH,EDI POST NIO D2 KUNG PINEPEKE KO MGA AKLAT NIYO! POST NYU ORIGINAL KUNG 22O SINASABI NIO!]
ReplyDeleteHA, HA, HA... I WILL POST HERE THE COMPLETE P. 166 OF THE SPIRIT OF CATHOLICISM AND IT WILL REVEAL YOUR LIES.
[Fr. Abe,MAGHANDA NA KAYO AT SIGURADO AKO MAMIMILIPIT KAYO SA PAGSAGOT SA MGA IPOPOST KU PA D2 GALING SA MGA AKLAT NYO,SIGURADO AKO MAGPAPALUSOT NA NMN KAYO..]
LAOS NA YAN. DYAN LANG NAMAN KAYO MAGALING. GAMITIN ANG TITLES NG AMING MGA LUMANG AKLAT TAPOS AY GAGAWA NG MGA PEKENG QUOTATIONS. STYLE NYO BULOK.
[JANESA LALIMAN MU RIN PAGSUSURI NA TULAD NG GINAWA KO,GABAYAN KA NG DIYOS SA PAGSUSURI..]
JANESA WAG KANG PALOLOKO SA SINUNGALING NA YAN. KITA MO NI HINDI NYA MASABI KUNG SINO SYA AT KUNG ANO ANG RELIHIYON NYA. GANYAN KUMILOS ANG MGA ALAGAD NG DILIM. TAPOS AYAW MAKIPAG KITA PARA MAIPRESENTA NYA ANG MGA SINASABI NYANG AKLAT.
[DI PO AKO GALIT SA INYO Fr. Abe,AT SA SINUMANG KATOLIKO,KALABAN PO TAYO NG MALING ARAL,YAN PO AY SANG AYON KAYO CGURO..]
AKO RIN HINDI RIN GALIT SA YO. GALIT LANG AKO SA KASINUNGALINGAN AT MGA MALING ARAL. TEKA, ANO BA ANG TAMANG ARAL? KUNG AALIS KAMI NG PAGKA CATOLICO E SAAN MO BA KAMI PALILIPATIN? HE, HE, HE...
[INTAYIN KO NALANG PO SAGOT NINYO..SALAMAT..]
AYAN NA ANG SAGOT.
e sa jason abalos ang name ko po eh,anu po magagawa ko? isa lang po ba ang jason abalos sa mundo?
ReplyDeletetlaga nmn NAGMUMURA po kayo eh,sa isang PARI po ba dapat makakita sa inyo ng ganun? NAGMUMURA?? dapat nga nice kayo sa lhat ng tao na nagttnong sa inyo d2..
ang tungkulin nio po ay SUMAGOT sa mga tanong d2,IDEPENSA ang mga ARAL nio d2,ngaun kung MAGHAHAYAG kami ng mga ARAL namin d2,hindi nio na blogsite ito! blog site na namin toh! hehe
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
DAHIL ANG TAONG IYAN AY WALANG KOPYA NG AKLAT NA IYAN AT HINDI TUTUONG GANYAN ANG NILALAMAN NG MGA NASABING AKLAT.
Jason:
Pnu ko mapopost yan kung di nio aklat yan? tlgang wala ko kopya dahil sa library ng catholic school ko nasipi yan! di ko nmn maiuuwi yan! haha.. bkt ung prof ko TINANGGAP yan mga aklat na yan nung nagdiscussion kami s skul? eh tagapagturong katoliko rin un,bkt kayo PALUSOT ng PALUSOT?? haha
tsaka wag na po sana kayo UMARTE na.. {wala nmng tagalog translation yan!} sinabi ku na nga, AKO LANG NAGTAGALOG pra lalong maintindihan ng iba!
sabi ku nga sa inyo db, at sa LAHAT NG TAO na makakabasa nito.. TITINGDIGAN KO Fr. Abe na KAYO ang SINUNGALING! kung hindi 22o ang mga pinost ko na mga AKLAT NIO PARI pa nmn kayo pacensya na po.. kasi INAAKUSAHAN nio KO na INIMBETO ko lang ang mga pinost ko na mga AKLAT NINYO! by d way wala nako magagawa dun, kung bulag tlga kayo sa k22hanan..
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
TANGA KA PALA E. HINDI NAMAN SA MGA AKLAT NA IYAN NAKASULAT ANG OPISYAL NA ARAL NG IGLESIA CATOLICA E. KUNDI SA CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...
Jason Abalos;
kaya nga tama sabi ng aklat niyo eh;
The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.166
Tinatanggap naming mga KATOLIKO kapag karaka,NG WALANG ANUMANG IKAHIHIYA,BAGKUS MY PAGMAMALAKI na sa anumang paraan ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI
MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO;…”
...ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO.... dahil HINDI kayo nagpapahalaga sa BIBLIA at ni maging sa EBANGHELYO ni CRISTO,
ETO sabi ng aklat KATOLIKO ULIT,
"My Catholic Faith" by Louis Laravoire Morrow,p.123
"The Bible CANNOT be the SOLE GUIDE to SALVATION..."The Bible does NOT CONTAIN ALL the TRUTHS necessary for external salvation."
tagalog:
"Ang BIBLIA ay HINDI maaaring maging tanging patnubay sa KALIGTASAN..."Ang BIBLIA ay HINDI NAGLALAMAN ng LAHAT ng mga KATOTOHANAN kailangan sa walang hanggang kaligtasan."
KITAM,sinisiraan nio pa ang BIBLIA,
sigurado ako ITATANGGI NIO na naman yang AKLAT niong yan! haha
sa ibang aklat nio sinasabi nmn ang ganito;
"That Catholic Chruch A Radio Analysis by: Rev.Dr.Leslie Rumble,p.69
"Walang IGLESIANG makatatawag sa kanyang sarili na CRISTIANO kung ang mga ARAL nito ay hindi NAAAYON sa EBAMGHELYO {biblia}.Iyan ay TOTOO. Sapagkat ang nilalaman ng EBANGHELYO ay TOTOO,LAHAT ng kanilang itinuro ay dapat makasama sa pagtuturo ng ALINGMANG IGLESIANG NAGSASABING siya ay CRISTIANO."
sabi ng aklat nio walang IGLESIANG makapagsasabing sila ay cristiano,kung ang mga ARAL nito ay hindi NAAAYON sa EBAMGHELYO o sa BIBLIA!!! edi lumalabas HINDI kayo CRISTIANO dahil sa KATESISMO kayo NAGBABATAY eh,yan ay batay sa mga AKLAT nyo po huh..
Eto pa ang katibayan na ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA ay kumopya ng ARAL sa PAGANO; sa aklat katoliko pa rin;
ReplyDelete"Handbook of Christ Feast ang Customs,p.61
"It has sometimes been said that the NATIVITY is only a CHRISTIANIZED PAGAN FESTIVAL.
"The choice of december 25 was influenced by the fact that the romans,from the time of emperor aurelian {275},had celebrated the feast of the sun of gold {sol invictus: the unconquered sun} on that day.December 25 was called the birthday of the sun; and the great pagan religious celebretions of Mithras Cult were held all through the empire."
tagalog;
Nasabi na sa ilang pagkakataon na ang NATIVIDAD AY ISA LAMANG ISINA-CRISTIANONG KAPISTAHANG PAGANO."
"...Ang pagkapili ng ika-25 ng disyembre ay NAIMPLUWENSIYAHAN ng pangyayaring ang mga ROMANO,mula sa panahon ni emperador Aureliano {275},ay ipinagdiwang ang kapistahan ng diyos na araw {sol invictus:ang hindi mapapanaigang araw}.Sa araw ng kapanganakan ng araw'at idanaos sa buong emperyo ang mga DAKILANG PAGANONG pagdiriwang na pangrelihiyon ng KULTONG MITRAIKO."
yan ang PASKO galing s PAGANO.ANU PA??
“The two Babylons or the Papal worship” by: Rev.Alexander Hislop,p.97
"The CANDLES,in some parts of england,lighted on CHRISTMAS eve,and used so long as the festive season lasts,were equally lighted by the PAGANS on the eve of the festival of the BABYLONIAN GOD,to do honour to him:for it was one of the distinguishing peculiarities of his worship to have lighted wax candles on his altars.The CHRISTMAS TREE,now so common in PAGAN ROME,ang PAGAN EGYPT."
Tagalog;
Ang mga KANDILA,sa ilang bahagi ng Inglatera,na sinisindihan tuwing bisperas ng PASKO,at ginagamit sa buong panahon ng pagdiriwang,ay kaparehong sinisindihan ng mga PAGANO sa bisperas ng kapistahan ng diyos ng babilonia,upang parangalan siya:sapagkat ang isa sa mga mapagkakakilanlang kaibahan ng pagsamba sa kanya ay ang kaniyang mga dambana.Ang CHRISTMAS TREE; na ngayon a lubhang pangkaraniwan na sa atin,ay kaparehong pangkaraniwan din sa PAGANONG ROMA at PAGANONG EHIPTO."
pati PAGSISINDI ng kandila sa christmas tree PAGANO rin ang kinopyahan..
Fr. Abe si Alexander Hislop ay PARING KATOLIKO,kaya nga siya UMALIS sa inyo eh! alam niyang mali mali aral ninyo at iba pa ay galing sa PAGANO,Hindi siya sumulat ng ganyan dahil MASAMA lang loob niya sa catholic chruch? kundi yan tlga ang totoo!
isang pang aklat
Colliers Encyclopedia" Vol.6,p.404
"Some authorities consider the CHRISTMAS TREE a survical of PAGAN TREE WORSHIP and trace it to ACIENT ROME and EGYPT...
Tagalog
'Ang ilan sa mga awtoridad ay itinuturing ang CHRISTMAS TREE na isang namamalaging umiiral na labi ng PAGSAMBA sa PUNO ng mga PAGANO at matatalunton ito sa matatandang ROMA at EHIPTO."
Pati CHRISTMAS TREE sa PAGANO rin galing sinasamba nga ng mga PAGANO ang puno eh,
Fr. Abe ang iglesia katolika po ay halos lahat na ata sa PAGANO KUMOKOPYA ng aral eh..
pakisagot po lahat ng mga yan....
yan nga mga katibayan na imbento ng imbento kyo ng aral ehh,mga aral nio na wala sa bilia;
ReplyDeleteeto pa isa uli aklat na sulat ng PARI;
“The externals of the catholic church” by: John F. Sullivan,p.209-210
History of the Lent
"The duration of his penitential season has not always same in the different ages of the chruch's history.WE CANNOT ASSERT POSSIVELY that LENT can be TRACED BACK TO THE APOSTLES,...
Tagalog;
"Ang panahong ito ng pag aayuno at pagkukulasyon o {kuwaresma} ay lagi ng HINDI MAGKAKATULAD sa ibat ibang panahon ng kasaysayan ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA.HINDI NATIN MAAAARING MATIYAK na ang KUWARESMA ay MATUTUNTON sa mga APOSTOL,...
yan.. pati KUWARESMA wla sa BILIA YAN! ang totoo galing nga rin yan sa PAGANO EH,ayon sa aklat na The two babylons or the papal worship..
ang ILGESIA KATOLIKA NGAUN ay ibang iba sa UNANG IGLESIA na ITINAYO ni CRISTO NOONG unng SIGLO;
gaya ng sabi ng aklat katoliko ulit;
Is it the same Chruch?"by F.J.Sheed,p.1-2
"...It is instructive to look at the chruch as we find in it the new testament.To a casual reader no our faith it would never occur that it was the same chruch as ours,there were NO CARDINALS-To start with the most spectacular and no special CLERICAL DRESS;NO CONVENTS,NO RELIGIOUS ORDERS.We hear of NO OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS,OF EASTER OR LENT...PRIEST AND BISHOPS WERE MARRIED MEN..."
Tagalog
"Meron tayong matutu-tuhan kung titingnan natin ang IGLESIA tulad ng ating pagtingin dito sa BAGONG TIPAN.Sa isang karaniwang mambabasa na hindi natin kapanampalataya hindi nila kailaman maisip na ito rin ang iglesia na kinabibilangan natin,sa pinaka nakatatawag pansin-at WALANG TANGING KASUOTAN ANG MGA PARI;WALANG MGA KUMBENTO,WALANG MGA ORDING RELIHIYOSO,WALANG TAYONG MARIRINIG NA PAGDIRIWANG NG PASKO,O LINGGO NG PAGKABUHAY,O KUWARESMA...Ang PARI at mga OBISPO AT MGA LALAKING MAY ASAWA..."
pakisagot po ng lahat ng KATANUNGAN KO LAHAT!
SALAMAT..
Janesa lagi ko sinasabi lagi ka po MAGSURI mabuti at LALIMAN mo po sana,wag po sana tayong maging PANATIKO sa RELIHIYON,Dumistansya ka lang po sna ng kaunti at makikita mu rin ang 22o,di ko sinasabi sumama ka sakin,peo sana ung mga pinost ko hanapin mu rin pra makita mu rin..
ReplyDelete[e sa jason abalos ang name ko po eh,anu po magagawa ko? isa lang po ba ang jason abalos sa mundo?]
ReplyDeleteOBVIOUS NAMAN NA PEKE ANG PANGALAN MO. THAT IS NOT EVEN CONNECTED WITH ANY SUPPORTING LINK THAT CAN VERIFY YOUR CLAIM. YOU ARE HIDING IN A POPULAR NAME SO THAT YOU CAN LIE THROUGH YOUR TEETH. HE, HE, HE...
[tlaga nmn NAGMUMURA po kayo eh,sa isang PARI po ba dapat makakita sa inyo ng ganun? NAGMUMURA??]
MURA... I AM NOT USING ANY 'MURA' HERE. I SIMPLY CALL THE ANTI-CATHOLICS HERETICS AND I CALLED THEIR NEWLY INVENTED RELIGION 'DEMONIC IN ORIGIN'.
[dapat nga nice kayo sa lhat ng tao na nagttnong sa inyo d2..]
HA, HA, HA... I AM NICE IF THEY ARE NICE. IF THEY ARE ATTACKING US WITH LIES AND DECEITS THEN I WILL STOP BEING NICE. IF YOU WANT TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT BE RESPECTABLE BECAUSE RESPECT IS EARNED.
[ang tungkulin nio po ay SUMAGOT sa mga tanong d2,IDEPENSA ang mga ARAL nio d2,]
WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME OF MY PURPOSE AND GOALS FOR THIS BLOG? MY DUTY IS NOT ONLY TO EXPLAIN AND DEFEND MY FAITH. IT IS ALSO MY DUTY TO REPULSE AND REFUTE HERESIES AND DOCTRINAL ERRORS. IT IS ALSO MY DUTY TO QUESTION THE ASSERTIONS OF THE ENEMIES OF OUR FAITH.
[ngaun kung MAGHAHAYAG kami ng mga ARAL namin d2,hindi nio na blogsite ito! blog site na namin toh! hehe]
HE, HE, HE... THIS IS NOT YOUR BLOG OF COURSE BUT WHEN YOU ARE ATTACKING THE FAITH OF OTHERS AND BEING DEMANDED TO HAND ON YOUR FAITH THEN YOU ARE COMPELLED TO DO SO. IN DEBATE, THE TWO SIDES MUST PRESENT THEIR POSITIONS CLEARLY. IT IS NOT A ONE SIDED AFFAIR OF ONE ATTACKING THE OTHER WHILE HIDING LIKE A DEVIL. HE, HE, HE...
[Jason:
ReplyDeletePnu ko mapopost yan kung di nio aklat yan?]
HA, HA, HA... OF COURSE YOU CAN POST THEM EVEN IF THOSE QUOTES ARE FAKES. SINCE WHEN DID THE INTERNET PROHIBIT FAKE QUOTES? THERE ARE MANY FAKE QUOTES POSTED IN THE WEB AND SOME OF THEM ARE YOURS.
YOU POSTED FAKE QUOTES DELIBERATELY IN ORDER TO DECEIVE.
[tlgang wala ko kopya dahil sa library ng catholic school ko nasipi yan!]
HA, HA, HA... SO, YOU ADMITTED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE COPIES OF THE BOOKS. HA, HA, HA...
YOUR ALIBI OF READING IT FROM A CATHOLIC SCHOOL DOES NOT HOLD WATER. HE, HE, HE... BECAUSE IF THEY ARE REALLY EXISTING IN CATHOLIC SCHOOL LIBRARY THEN YOU CAN BORROW IT OR ASK STUDENTS TO BORROW IT FOR YOU. SO THAT YOU CAN PHOTO COPY THEM FULL PAGE INCLUDING THE MAIN PAGE AND THE ONE CONTAINING FULL IDENTIFICATION OF THE BOOK. THEY CAN ALSO BE PHOTO COPIED OR SCANNDED IN THAT SCHOOL LIBRARY. OUR CATHOLIC LIBRARIES ARE HIGH TECH YOU KNOW. THEY ARE NOT CHEAP JUST LIKE YOUR NEWLY INVENTED CHURCHES.
[di ko nmn maiuuwi yan! haha..]
HA, HA, HA... CHEAP ALIBI. HA, HA, HA... HULI KA NA. YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCES FOR YOUR CLAIMS. PALUSOT MO NA LANG YAN MR. PEKENG JASON ABALOS. HE, HE, HE...
[bkt ung prof ko TINANGGAP yan mga aklat na yan nung nagdiscussion kami s skul?]
HA, HA, HA... JUST LIKE YOUR QUOTES I DO NOT BUY THIS CLAIM. IT DOES NOT HOLD WATER. A CONCOCTED STORY. HA, HA, HA... DO YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT? HA, HA, HA...
[eh tagapagturong katoliko rin un,bkt kayo PALUSOT ng PALUSOT?? haha]
HA, HA, HA... THERE IS NO REASON FOR ME TO BELIEVE YOUR STORY ABOUT THAT PROFESSOR.
PALUSOT? ME? HA, HA, HA... I HAVE A COPY OF SOME OF THE BOOKS THAT IS WHY I AM SURE THAT YOUR QUOTES ARE FAKES. PEKE.
[tsaka wag na po sana kayo UMARTE na.. {wala nmng tagalog translation yan!}]
HINDI YAN ARTE. THAT IS A STATEMENT OF FACT.
[sinabi ku na nga, AKO LANG NAGTAGALOG pra lalong maintindihan ng iba!]
THEN, THAT TRANSLATION HAS NO VALUE AT ALL. BECAUSE YOUR QUOTES ARE FAKES AND YOUR TRANSLATIONS ARE FAKES. YOU ARE A FAKE. HA, HA, HA...
[sabi ku nga sa inyo db, at sa LAHAT NG TAO na makakabasa nito.. TITINGDIGAN KO Fr. Abe na KAYO ang SINUNGALING!]
HA, HA, HA... THIS IS A VERY NICE STATEMENT. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE CREDIBILITY. YOU ARE NOT CREDIBLE. YOU ARE HIDING LIKE A COWARD. YOU ARE HIDING LIKE MAMA ELI THE ACCUSED HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST WHO IS HIDING FOR HIS CRIME.
TITINDIG KA PALA E BAKIT HINDI KA LUMALABAS. NOT EVEN THE CHALLENGE TO SEE JANESA IN PERSON AND SHOW HER THE COPY OF YOUR BOOKS IN DAVAO PLAZA WITH THE CFD DEBATERS. YOU ARE NOT ACCEPTING.
HANDA AKONG TINDIGAN ANG SINASABI KONG PEKE KA DAHIL MAY HAWAK AKONG KOPYA NG MGA AKLAT AT PROVEN BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT PEKE ANG MGA QUOTES MO. HA, HA, HA...
[kung hindi 22o ang mga pinost ko na mga AKLAT NIO PARI pa nmn kayo pacensya na po..]
HINDI TUTUO ANG MGA POSTED QUOTES MO. PEKE. KASINUNGALINGAN. HA, HA, HA... KAYA NAMAN NAGTATAGO KA SA PEKENG PANGALAN DAHIL NAGSISINUNGALING KA. AKALA MO AY HINDI MASASAGOT NI JANESA ANG CLAIMS MO. E HUMINGI NG TULONG SA PARI. HA, HA, HA... HULING-HULI KA NGAYON.
[kasi INAAKUSAHAN nio KO na INIMBETO ko lang ang mga pinost ko na mga AKLAT NINYO!]
YES. I ACCUSE YOU OF IMBENTING YOUR QUOTES. SO, WHEN WILL YOU STAND BEFORE US FACE TO FACE TO SHOW THAT YOUR QUOTES ARE CORRECT.
IN WHAT SCHOOL DID YOU GET THEM? TELL ME THAT CATHOLIC SCHOOL BECAUSE OUR RESEARCHERS WILL CHECK THE LIBRAY OF THAT SCHOOL. IS IT UNIVERSITY OF STO. TOMAS? WE HAVE CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS THERE TO CHECK. IS IT ATENEO? I HAVE FRIENDS WORKING THERE. IS IT LA SALLE? SOME OF MY COMPANIONS HERE ARE LA SALLE GRADUATES SO THEY CAN BORROW BOOKS AND BE ALLOWED ENTRANCE IN LIBRARY. HA, HA, HA...
[by d way wala nako magagawa dun, kung bulag tlga kayo sa k22hanan..]
DILAT KAMI SA KATOTOHANAN DAHIL MAY HAWAK KAMING MGA AKLAT NA IBA ANG SINASAAD KESA SA MGA QUOTES MO. HA, HA, HA... PEKE ANG QUOTES MO. PEKENG-PEKE.
[Jason Abalos;
ReplyDeletekaya nga tama sabi ng aklat niyo eh;
The Spirit of Catholicism” by D.r Karl Adam,p.166
Tinatanggap naming mga KATOLIKO kapag karaka,NG WALANG ANUMANG IKAHIHIYA,BAGKUS MY PAGMAMALAKI na sa anumang paraan ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI
MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO;…”
...ang KATOLISISMO ay HINDI maaaring IHAMBING sa UNANG KRISTIANISMO NI MAGING SA EBANGHELYO NI CRISTO.... dahil HINDI kayo nagpapahalaga sa BIBLIA at ni maging sa EBANGHELYO ni CRISTO,
ETO sabi ng aklat KATOLIKO ULIT,]
PEKE. MAYA MAYA AY MAKIKITA MO ANG TUNAY NA NILALAMAN NG AKLAT NA IYAN. MAGUGULAT KA DAHIL MAKIKITA MO ANG EVIDENCIA NG IYONG KASINUNGALINGAN.
["My Catholic Faith" by Louis Laravoire Morrow,p.123
"The Bible CANNOT be the SOLE GUIDE to SALVATION..."The Bible does NOT CONTAIN ALL the TRUTHS necessary for external salvation."
tagalog:
"Ang BIBLIA ay HINDI maaaring maging tanging patnubay sa KALIGTASAN..."Ang BIBLIA ay HINDI NAGLALAMAN ng LAHAT ng mga KATOTOHANAN kailangan sa walang hanggang kaligtasan."
KITAM,sinisiraan nio pa ang BIBLIA,
sigurado ako ITATANGGI NIO na naman yang AKLAT niong yan! haha]
DEMONIO KA TALAGA. SUMPAIN KA NAWA NG PANGINOON. MAY PERSONAL COPY AKO NG AKLAT NA IYAN. WALANG NAKASULAT NA GANYAN. TALAGANG ANAK KA NG AMA MONG DIABLO ANG PRINSEPE NG KASINUNGALINGAN.
WELL, WE ARE NOW SCANNING THIS BOOK SO THAT YOUR LIES WILL BE KNOWN AND THE PROOFS WILL BE ENOUGH TO CONVICT YOU TO HELL UNLESS YOU REPENT FROM YOUR LIES AND DECEITS.
[sa ibang aklat nio sinasabi nmn ang ganito;
"That Catholic Chruch A Radio Analysis by: Rev.Dr.Leslie Rumble,p.69
"Walang IGLESIANG makatatawag sa kanyang sarili na CRISTIANO kung ang mga ARAL nito ay hindi NAAAYON sa EBAMGHELYO {biblia}.Iyan ay TOTOO. Sapagkat ang nilalaman ng EBANGHELYO ay TOTOO,LAHAT ng kanilang itinuro ay dapat makasama sa pagtuturo ng ALINGMANG IGLESIANG NAGSASABING siya ay CRISTIANO."
sabi ng aklat nio walang IGLESIANG makapagsasabing sila ay cristiano,kung ang mga ARAL nito ay hindi NAAAYON sa EBAMGHELYO o sa BIBLIA!!! edi lumalabas HINDI kayo CRISTIANO dahil sa KATESISMO kayo NAGBABATAY eh,yan ay batay sa mga AKLAT nyo po huh..]
HA, HA, HA... YOU KNOW. THIS TIME I WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT THIS BOOK YOU HAVE MENTIONED DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL. HA, HA, HA... BECAUSE THE TITLE IS WRONG. HA, HA, HA...
DON'T WORRY I HAVE A COPY OF THE BOOK ALSO AND AGAIN YOUR LIES WILL BE ENOUGH TO SEND YOU TO HELL UNLESS YOU REPENT.
nsan na po yun iba ku pang pinost bakit wala pa d2? pakilagay lahat ng pinost ko po ha..
ReplyDeletePede na po cguro kayo maitala sa {GUINESS WORLD RECORD} pari na PINAKAMARAMING PAGTANGGI at PALUSOT sa mga AKLAT..
HAHAHAHAHA! Sabi ku na nga bah TATANGGI na nmn AKLAT NILA! Pati PROF ko PEKE raw??? waaaaaaaah! hahahahahaha!
["Handbook of Christ Feast ang Customs,p.61]
ReplyDeleteWHO IS THE AUTHOR OF THIS BOOK? YOU INTENTIONALLY HID THE AUTHOR SO THAT IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO CHECK YOUR QUOTE HA.
["It has sometimes been said that the NATIVITY is only a CHRISTIANIZED PAGAN FESTIVAL.]
HMM... THIS QUOTE IS SUSPECT FOR YOUR INTENTION. IT APPEARS THAT THE AUTHOR IS SIMPLY REFERRING TO THE THOUGHTS OF OTHERS OR QUOTING THE OPPOSITON OF THE ANTI-CATHOLICS. THIS DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM. THIS IS NOT A DIRECT STATEMENT BUT A MERE PRESENTATION OF OPINIONS OF SOME.
["The choice of december 25 was influenced by the fact that the romans,from the time of emperor aurelian {275},had celebrated the feast of the sun of gold {sol invictus: the unconquered sun} on that day.December 25 was called the birthday of the sun; and the great pagan religious celebretions of Mithras Cult were held all through the empire."]
HA, HA, HA... THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I HEARD OF THE FEAST OF THE SUN OF GOLD.
[tagalog;
Nasabi na sa ilang pagkakataon na ang NATIVIDAD AY ISA LAMANG ISINA-CRISTIANONG KAPISTAHANG PAGANO."
"...Ang pagkapili ng ika-25 ng disyembre ay NAIMPLUWENSIYAHAN ng pangyayaring ang mga ROMANO,mula sa panahon ni emperador Aureliano {275},ay ipinagdiwang ang kapistahan ng diyos na araw {sol invictus:ang hindi mapapanaigang araw}.Sa araw ng kapanganakan ng araw'at idanaos sa buong emperyo ang mga DAKILANG PAGANONG pagdiriwang na pangrelihiyon ng KULTONG MITRAIKO."
yan ang PASKO galing s PAGANO.ANU PA??]
HA, HA, HA... ANG PASKO AY PAGSILANG NI CRISTO HINDI PAGSILANG NG SOL INVICTUS... HA, HA, HA... ANO BANG KATANGAHAN YAN. KAYA NGA CHRISTMAS. HINDI NAMAN YAN SOL INVICTUS MAS. HA, HA, HA...
NAKU, LAHAT GAGAWIN PARA MANLOKO.
PAPANONG MAGIGING KOPYA SA BIRTHDAY NG SOL INVICTUS ANG CHRISTMAS E MAS NAUNA ANG CELEBRATION NG CHRISTMAS KESA SA PAGAN FEAST NG SOL INVICTUS:
"Although Dies Natalis Solis Invicti has been the subject of a great deal of scholarly speculation, THE ONLY ANCIENT SOURCE FOR IT is a single mention in the Chronography of 354.[[W]hile the winter solstice on or around the 25th of December was well established in the Roman imperial calendar, there is no evidence that a religious celebration of Sol on that day antedated the celebration of Christmas, and none that indicates that Aurelian had a hand in its institution," according to modern Sol scholar Steven Hijmans." (S.E. Hijmans, Sol, the sun in the art and religions of Rome, 2009, pp. 587–588.) from WIKIPEDIA
IMAGINE, THE ONLY MENTIONED OF SOL INVICTUS DAY IS DATED 354 AD. OUR CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION ON DECEMBER 25 IS OLDER THAN THE SOL INVICTUS BECAUSE THE MOST ANCIENT DOCUMENT SHOWING THE CELEBRATION OF THE BIRTH OF JESUS IS DATED 336AD KNOWN AS THE 'DEPOSITIO MARTYRUM'. IT CLAIMS THAT THE OCTAVE OF THE CALENDS OF JANUARY, i.e., DECEMBER 25 IS THE NATIVITY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ACCORDING TO THE FLESH.
GALING LANG SA RELIGION MO ANG QUOTE NA YAN. HINDI YAN GALING SA AKLAT NAMIN.
[“The two Babylons or the Papal worship” by: Rev.Alexander Hislop,p.97]
ReplyDeleteLIAR, LIAR, LIAR... REV. ALEXANDER HISLOP IS NOT CATHOLIC. HA, HA, HA.... THIS IS THE PROOF FROM WIKIPEDIA:
"Alexander Hislop
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
Alexander Hislop (Born at Duns, Berwickshire, 1807; died Arbroath, 13 March 1865) was a Free Church of Scotland minister infamous for his outspoken criticisms of the Roman Catholic Church. He was the son of Stephen Hislop (died 1837), a mason by occupation and an elder of the Relief Church."
SINUNGALING KA TALAGA. LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... GAGAWIN MO PANG CATOLICO ANG DEMONIONG KATULAD MO. HA, HA, HA...
"The CANDLES,in some parts of england,lighted on CHRISTMAS eve,and used so long as the festive season lasts,were equally lighted by the PAGANS on the eve of the festival of the BABYLONIAN GOD,to do honour to him:for it was one of the distinguishing peculiarities of his worship to have lighted wax candles on his altars.The CHRISTMAS TREE,now so common in PAGAN ROME,ang PAGAN EGYPT."
Tagalog;
Ang mga KANDILA,sa ilang bahagi ng Inglatera,na sinisindihan tuwing bisperas ng PASKO,at ginagamit sa buong panahon ng pagdiriwang,ay kaparehong sinisindihan ng mga PAGANO sa bisperas ng kapistahan ng diyos ng babilonia,upang parangalan siya:sapagkat ang isa sa mga mapagkakakilanlang kaibahan ng pagsamba sa kanya ay ang kaniyang mga dambana.Ang CHRISTMAS TREE; na ngayon a lubhang pangkaraniwan na sa atin,ay kaparehong pangkaraniwan din sa PAGANONG ROMA at PAGANONG EHIPTO."
pati PAGSISINDI ng kandila sa christmas tree PAGANO rin ang kinopyahan..]
ANG PAGSISINDI NG KANDILA AY GALING SA BIBLIA. YAN AY BIBLICAL PRACTICE. ANG HIRAP SA YO E, HINDI KA NAGBABASA NG BIBLIA. HA, HA, HA...:
Job 29:2-4 "Oh that I were as in months past, as in the days when God preserved me; When HIS CANDLE shined upon my head, and when by his light I walked through darkness; As I was in the days of my youth, when the secret of God was upon my tabernacle"
SEE, JOB WAS REMEMBERING THE CANDLE OF THE LORD...
NAGSISINDI KAMI NG KADILA TUWING PASKO SAPAGKAT ITO AY NAGPAPA-ALALA SA AMIN NA ANG DIOS ANG AMING LIWANAG AT SI CRISTO ANG "LIGHT OF THE WORLD":
John 1:3-5 'All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.'
ANG CANDLES AY KUMAKATAWAN SA LIWANAG NA DULOT NG PAGDATING NI CRISTO SA SANLIBUTAN NOONG SIYA AY ISILANG.
Psalm 18:28 "For thou wilt light my CANDLE: the LORD my God will enlighten my darkness."
ANG DIOS MISMO ANG MAGSISINDI NG AMING MGA CANDLES. HA, HA, HA... BAKIT WALA KAYONG MGA KANDILA? KASI SINUMPA KAYO NG PANGINOON BUNGA NG INYONG KASAMAAN:
Proverbs 24:20 "For there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out."
AYAN, THE CANDLE OF THE WICKED SHALL BE PUT OUT. YOUR CANDLE IS PUT OUT BECAUSE YOU ARE A CERTIFIED LIAR.
[Fr. Abe si Alexander Hislop ay PARING KATOLIKO,kaya nga siya UMALIS sa inyo eh! alam niyang mali mali aral ninyo at iba pa ay galing sa PAGANO,Hindi siya sumulat ng ganyan dahil MASAMA lang loob niya sa catholic chruch? kundi yan tlga ang totoo!]
HA, HA, HA...HINDI IYAN PARING CATOLICO. HINDI SIYA KAILANMAN NAGING CATOLICO. HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... SIYA AY KAURI MO... ANTI-CATOLIKONG PULPOL. HA, HA, HA...
[isang pang aklat
ReplyDeleteColliers Encyclopedia" Vol.6,p.404]
HA, HA, HA... TALAGANG SANGKATUTAK NA BALIW ITO. KELAN PA NAGING CATHOLIC BOOK ANG COLLIERS ENCYCLOPEDIA. HA, HA, HA... DEFINITELY COLLIERS DO NOT BELONG TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR...
["Some authorities consider the CHRISTMAS TREE a survical of PAGAN TREE WORSHIP and trace it to ACIENT ROME and EGYPT...
Tagalog
'Ang ilan sa mga awtoridad ay itinuturing ang CHRISTMAS TREE na isang namamalaging umiiral na labi ng PAGSAMBA sa PUNO ng mga PAGANO at matatalunton ito sa matatandang ROMA at EHIPTO."
Pati CHRISTMAS TREE sa PAGANO rin galing sinasamba nga ng mga PAGANO ang puno eh,
Fr. Abe ang iglesia katolika po ay halos lahat na ata sa PAGANO KUMOKOPYA ng aral eh..
pakisagot po lahat ng mga yan....]
Why do we have the Image of ‘Tree’ during Christmas Season? BECAUSE THE IMAGE OF THE ‘TREE’ IS ONE OF THE BIBLICAL IMAGES OF THE MESSIAH AND OF GOD!Check these passages:
Isaiah 11:1 (New International Version) The Branch From Jesse 1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit. [Jesus is symbolized by the Tree which bears a lot of fruits. This is the Biblical image of the re-establishment of the Kingdom of David.]
Let us take a closer look at the Tagalog translation of that verse and its continuation:
Isa 11:1-2 At may lalabas na usbong sa PUNO ni Isai, at isang sanga mula sa kaniyang mga ugat ay magbubunga: At ang Espiritu ng Panginoon ay sasa kaniya, ang diwa ng karunungan at ng kaunawaan, ang diwa ng payo at ng katibayan, ang diwa ng kaalaman at ng takot sa Panginoon...
[Now, this is obviously a Messianic prophecy. The Messiah is likened to a branch of a Tree. And not only that, the Stem of Jesse have been presumed dead for centuries yet a new shoot will rise out of it and it will become a Tree itself and will give fruits to others.]
THIS IS THE ORIGIN OF CHRISTMAS TREE. IT IS VERY OBVIOUS… LITERALLY OBVIOUS… AND THE CONTEXT IS TRULY RELATED TO THE BIRTH OF THE MESSIAH IN THE KINGDOM OF DAVID. MUCH MORE THE IMAGE OF THE ‘TREE OF LIFE’ IS NOT ONLY LIMITED TO THE BIRTH OF THE MESSIAH. IT IS ALSO A BIBLICAL IMAGE OF THE TRIUMPH OF THE MESSIAH OVER EVIL:
ReplyDeleteRevelation 22:1-2 (New King James Version)
1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was THE TREE OF LIFE, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Also, the Bible likens a faithful believer who lives in righteousness to a TREE planted near the running waters, bearing fruits and having constant fresh leaves. [It looks like a Christmas Tree to me]:
Psalm 1:3 (New International Version)
3 He is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither. Whatever he does prospers.
[So, the Christmas Tree is also a reminder for us Christians that if we are faithful to the Lord – The Branch of David, we too shall bear fruits for others...] This is a very beautiful Biblical imagery [cf. Psalm 92:12-13].
Psalm 96:12-13 (New International Version)
12 let the fields be jubilant, and everything in them. Then all the trees of the forest will sing for joy;
13 they will sing before the LORD, for he comes, he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness and the peoples in his truth.
[Another Biblical Prophecy concerning the coming of the Messiah is that the Trees of the Forests will sing for joy. Of course, this refers to the fact that the entire creation will rejoice because God is Born unto us… the source of creation is coming to be with the things He created. The Catholics expressed this beautiful Biblical Imagery by presenting a Tree so full of fruits, constantly fresh leaves, covered with light, with the Star of Bethlehem on top and not only that, we put singing Christmas Lights around the Christmas Tree to signify the Joy of Creation with the Birth of the Messiah.]
http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2008/12/biblical-foundation-of-christmas-tree.html
[yan nga mga katibayan na imbento ng imbento kyo ng aral ehh,mga aral nio na wala sa bilia;]
ReplyDeleteYAN ANG KATIBAYAN NG IYONG MGA KASINUNGALINGAN AT KAWALANG-HIYAAN. HINDI KA NA NAHIHIYA SA IYONG SARILI. KAHIT HULING HULI KA NA SA KASINUNGALIAN MO IPAGPIPILIT MO PA RIN ANG IYONG MGA PEKENG QUOTES. HA, HA, HA... MAHABAG KA SA IYONG KALULUWA.
[eto pa isa uli aklat na sulat ng PARI;
“The externals of the catholic church” by: John F. Sullivan,p.209-210]
PEKE NA NAMAN ANG QUOTE. HA, HA, HA... NAKU, TALAGANG WALANG BAIT SA SARILI ITO.
[History of the Lent
"The duration of his penitential season has not always same in the different ages of the chruch's history.WE CANNOT ASSERT POSSIVELY that LENT can be TRACED BACK TO THE APOSTLES,...
Tagalog;
"Ang panahong ito ng pag aayuno at pagkukulasyon o {kuwaresma} ay lagi ng HINDI MAGKAKATULAD sa ibat ibang panahon ng kasaysayan ng IGLESIA KATOLIKA.HINDI NATIN MAAAARING MATIYAK na ang KUWARESMA ay MATUTUNTON sa mga APOSTOL,...
yan.. pati KUWARESMA wla sa BILIA YAN! ang totoo galing nga rin yan sa PAGANO EH,ayon sa aklat na The two babylons or the papal worship..
ang ILGESIA KATOLIKA NGAUN ay ibang iba sa UNANG IGLESIA na ITINAYO ni CRISTO NOONG unng SIGLO;]
HINDI MO ALAM NA MAY KUWARESMA SA BIBLIA KASI HINDI KA NAGBABASA NG BIBLIA AT HINDI MO ALAM ANG IBIG SABIHIN NG KUWARESMA. ANG KUWARESMA AY ANG 40 DAYS NA PAGDADASAL AT PAG-AAYUNO:
Why is Lent forty days long? Because forty days is a Biblical number of discipline, devotion, and preparation:
•Moses stayed on the Mountain of God forty days without eating and drinking (Exodus 24:18/ 34:28),
•The spies were in the land for forty days (Numbers 13:25),
•Elijah traveled forty days in fasting too before he reached the cave where he had his vision (1 Kings 19:8),
•Nineveh was given forty days to repent (Jonah 3:4), the King of Niniveh ordered 40 days of Fasting and Ashes and
•Jesus spent forty days in wilderness praying and fasting (Matthew 4:2).
Since Lent if a period of prayer and fasting, it is fitting for Christians to imitate JESUS with a 40 day period. Christ used a forty day period of prayer and fasting to prepare for his ministry, which culminated in his death and resurrection. Thus it is fitting for Christians to imitate him with a 40 day period of prayer and fasting to prepare for the celebration of his Crucifixion and Resurrection.
[gaya ng sabi ng aklat katoliko ulit;
ReplyDeleteIs it the same Chruch?"by F.J.Sheed,p.1-2
"...It is instructive to look at the chruch as we find in it the new testament.To a casual reader no our faith it would never occur that it was the same chruch as ours,there were NO CARDINALS-To start with the most spectacular and no special CLERICAL DRESS;NO CONVENTS,NO RELIGIOUS ORDERS.We hear of NO OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS,OF EASTER OR LENT...PRIEST AND BISHOPS WERE MARRIED MEN..."
Tagalog
"Meron tayong matutu-tuhan kung titingnan natin ang IGLESIA tulad ng ating pagtingin dito sa BAGONG TIPAN.Sa isang karaniwang mambabasa na hindi natin kapanampalataya hindi nila kailaman maisip na ito rin ang iglesia na kinabibilangan natin,sa pinaka nakatatawag pansin-at WALANG TANGING KASUOTAN ANG MGA PARI;WALANG MGA KUMBENTO,WALANG MGA ORDING RELIHIYOSO,WALANG TAYONG MARIRINIG NA PAGDIRIWANG NG PASKO,O LINGGO NG PAGKABUHAY,O KUWARESMA...Ang PARI at mga OBISPO AT MGA LALAKING MAY ASAWA..."
pakisagot po ng lahat ng KATANUNGAN KO LAHAT!]
PEKE NA NAMAN ANG QUOTE. HA, HA, HA...
MERONG TANGING KASUOTAN ANG MGA PARI SA BIBLIA:
Exodus 28:2 "Make priestly garments for your brother Aaron, to provide him with dignity and beauty."
Exodus 28:4 "Tell them to make a breastpiece, an ephod, a robe, an embroidered shirt, a turban, and a sash. They are to make these priestly garments for your brother Aaron and his sons, so that they can serve me as priests."
Exodus 28:15 "Make a breastpiece for the High Priest to use in determining God's will. It is to be made of the same materials as the ephod and with similar embroidery."
NO CONVENTS? ANG CONVENTS AY TIRAHAN NG MGA PARI. IBIG MONG SABIHIN SA KALSADA NAKATIRA ANG MGA PARI SA BIBLIA?
NO RELIGIOUS ORDERS? HA, HA, HA... THERE IS A RELIGIOUS ORDER IN THE BIBLE. THERE IS THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK, THE ORDER OF AARON AND THERE IS ALSO THE PRIESTLY ORDER OR THE LEVITICAL ORDER:
ReplyDelete2 Kings 23:4 And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and THE PRIESTS OF THE SECOND ORDER, and the keepers of the door...
1 Chronicles 6:32 "And they ministered before the dwelling place of the tabernacle of the congregation with singing, until Solomon had built the house of the LORD in Jerusalem: and then they waited on THEIR OFFICE ACCORDING TO THEIR ORDER."
Psalm 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK.
Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
ANG PASKO AY NASA BIBLIA. NASA BIBLIA ANG PAGSILANG NI CRISTO. AT ANG HULA ANG LAHAT NG TAO AY MAGDIRIWANG SA PAGSILANG NI CRISTO:
Luke 2:10-11 "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."
SO, THE BIRTH OF CHRIST WILL BE A GOOD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY TO ALL PEOPLE. BUT WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE REJOICING FOR THE BIRTH OF JESUS? THE CATHOLICS. ANTI-CATHOLICS LIKE YOU DO NOT CELEBRATE WITH JOY THE BIRTH OF JESUS. INSTEAD YOU AVOID IT BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE DATE. HA, HA, HA...
IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT THE TRUE PEOPLE OF GOD. YOU DO NOT LOVE REALLY THE LORD JESUS AND SINCE ALL PEOPLE WILL REJOICE IN THE BIRTH OF THE SAVIOR... IT SHOWS THAT YOU AND YOUR KIND ARE NOT PEOPLE... MAY BE ANIMALS.
THERE IS LENT. BECAUSE JESUS FASTED FOR FORTY DAYS AND FORTY NIGHTS. HE, HE, HE... JESUS OBSERVED KUWARESMA. SO DID MOSES, ELIJAH... THE NINEHVITES... HA, HA, HA...
PRIESTS AND BISHOPS WERE MARRIED? THE MARRIED PRIESTS BELONGS TO THE OLD TESTAMENT. OUR HIGH PRIEST JESUS CHRIST [cf. Heb 3:1] IS NOT MARRIED EXCEPT TO THE CHURCH HIS BRIDE [cf. Eph 5:23-25].
* St. Paul is not married.
* St. John is not married.
* St. Andrew is not married.
HOw about Thomas, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, James? Were they married? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
How about Luke, Mark, Barnabas, Timothy and Titus? Are they married? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
Only St. Peter was married but he left all for the sake of Jesus:
Luke 18:28-30 Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee. And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake, Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.
NO CARDINALS. HE, HE, HE... CARDINALS MEAN SENIOR OR ELDER BISHOPS. FOR SURE THERE WERE SENIOR BISHOPS DURING THE APOSTOLIC TIMES. THE APOSTLES WERE THE FIRST ELDER BISHOPS IN THE CHURCH.
[SALAMAT..]
SALAMAT DIN.
[Janesa lagi ko sinasabi lagi ka po MAGSURI mabuti at LALIMAN mo po sana,wag po sana tayong maging PANATIKO sa RELIHIYON,]
ReplyDeleteSALAMAT SA PANGINOON AT ANG ATING KAPATID NA SI SIS. JANESA AY MATATAG ANG PANANAMPALATAYA AT HINDI NAGPALOKO SA SINUNGALING NA ANTI-CATOLICONG ITO. HE, HE, HE...
NGAYON AY NAKITA NA NG ATING KAPATID ANG MGA KASINUNGALINGAN NITONG SI JASON ABALOS KUNO. HA, HA, HA... NAKNAKAN NG SINUNGALING.
[Dumistansya ka lang po sna ng kaunti at makikita mu rin ang 22o,di ko sinasabi sumama ka sakin,peo sana ung mga pinost ko hanapin mu rin pra makita mu rin..]
MAGBASA KA AT MAGSURI JANESA. HANAPIN MO ANG MGA AKLAT NA BINANGGIT NYA. GO TO THE LIBRARY OF ATENEO DE DAVAO. BASAHIN MO ANG MGA TUNAY NA AKLAT AT MAKIKITA MO ANG KANYANG KASINUNGALINGAN. CERTIFIED LIAR IYAN. HE, HE, HE...
TO FINALLY PROVE WHAT KIND OF LIAR YOU ARE HERE IS THE SCANNED COPY OF MY BOOK "THE SPIRIT OF CATHOLICISM" BY KARL ADAM.
ReplyDeleteMAY THE CURSE OF GOD BE UPON ANY OF US WHO IS LYING, DECEIVING PEOPLE AND DISTORTING THE BOOKS OF OTHERS.
MY SUGGESTION TO YOU IS THAT YOU REPENT OF YOUR LIES BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR YOUR SOUL.
HERE IS THE LINK:
ReplyDeletehttp://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2010/08/anti-catholic-lies-and-deceptions-in.html
HERE IS ANOTHER PROOF OF THE LIES AND DECEITS OF JASON THE LIAR ABALOS:
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MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON HIS SOUL. HE HAS ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE AN AGENT OF LIES.
brother, tanong lang po ako, BAKIT PO NA ANG MISA NATING MGA KATOIKO AY MALI? KASI PO KAHIT SA INTERNET NAKIKITA KO PO NA ANG MISA NA ANG PARI AY HUMAHARAP SA MGA TAO AY ANG TINATAWAG NA NEW ORDER OF MASS,AT HINDI ITO ANG TAMANG PARAAN. KASI PO ANG PARI DITO AY NAGING PRESIDER NA HINDI NA SIYA CELEBRANT. SO, SA INTERNET RIN IPINAKITA KUNG ANO ANG TOTOONG MISA. KASI PO ANG TOTOONG MISA AY YONG ANG PARI AY NAKAHARAP SA ALTAR AT HINDI SA MGA TAO. KAYA PO SANA AYUSIN NATIN AT SUNDIN ANG TAMANG PARAAN SA MISA KASI PO ANG MISA NATIN NGAYON AY HINDI NA ANG MISA NA ITINUTURO NI KRISTO. THANKS.
ReplyDelete[BAKIT PO NA ANG MISA NATING MGA KATOIKO AY MALI?]
ReplyDeleteANG MISA NG MGA CATOLICO AY TAMA. WALANG MALI SA MISA NAMIN.
[ KASI PO KAHIT SA INTERNET NAKIKITA KO PO NA ANG MISA NA ANG PARI AY HUMAHARAP SA MGA TAO AY ANG TINATAWAG NA NEW ORDER OF MASS,AT HINDI ITO ANG TAMANG PARAAN.]
ANG MISANG HUMAHARAP SA TAO AT HUMAHARAP SA ALTAR AY PAREHONG TAMA. SI CRISTO AY NAKAHARAP SA MGA TAO NUONG BINASBASAN NIYA ANG TINAPAY AT ALAK.
ANG MISA AY TINATAWAG NA 'NEW ORDER OF THE MASS' DAHIL ANG 'ORDER' AY NEW SUBALIT ANG MISA AY HINDI NEW DAHIL LAHAT NG GINAGAWA SA MISA AY HINDI NEW. ALING PARTE NG MISA ANG 'NEW"? E LAHAT IYON GALING SA BIBLIA, SA LUMANG RITUALS PANGUNAHIN NA ANG TRIDENTINE LATIN MASS.
[KASI PO ANG PARI DITO AY NAGING PRESIDER NA HINDI NA SIYA CELEBRANT.]
ANG PARI AY CELEBRANT AT PRESIDER. SINONG BALIW ANG NAGSABI SA IYO NA HINDI NA CELEBRANT ANG PARI SA MISA?
[SO, SA INTERNET RIN IPINAKITA KUNG ANO ANG TOTOONG MISA.]
E DI SA INTERNET KA SUMAMBA. HA HA HA... YAN ANG BAGONG ARAL, INTERNET MASS. HA HA HA...
[KASI PO ANG TOTOONG MISA AY YONG ANG PARI AY NAKAHARAP SA ALTAR AT HINDI SA MGA TAO.]
SINONG DEMONIO ANG NAGSABI SA YO NIYAN? WALANG ARAL ANG IGLESIA CATOLICA NA HINDI PWEDENG HUMARAP SA TAO ANG PARI.
ISA PA, MAKITID ANG IYONG ISIP. ANG PARI AY NAKAHARAP SA ALTAR TABLE AT SA CONSECRATED BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD AT SA MGA TAO SA NEW MASS. BOTH IN NOVUS ORDO AND TLM PAREHONG KAY CRISTO NAKAHARAP ANG PARI.
[KAYA PO SANA AYUSIN NATIN AT SUNDIN ANG TAMANG PARAAN SA MISA KASI PO ANG MISA NATIN NGAYON AY HINDI NA ANG MISA NA ITINUTURO NI KRISTO.]
ANG UTAK MO ANG AYUSIN MO KASI PURO KATANGAHAN ANG IYONG PINAGSASABI. WALA SA KATINUAN. ANG PAGIGING TUNAY NG MISA AY NAKADEPENDE SA SANTO PAPA HINDI SA INTERNET. HE HE HE...
[THANKS.]
WELCOME.
argue not to win but to explain: tips for cfd; 1. listen to the attacks and evidence 2. clarify ambigous terms, 4. refute the attacks 5. avoid bad words/ attacking the person instead of the arguments/evidence presented 6. give the opponents time to ponder on the answers. 7. Pray for God grace of enlightenment. 8...etc.. absorbed what is useful, reject what is useless and add what is your own.
ReplyDeleteAnd that is what we call an ALTAR! God bless the Archdiocese of Cebu and Cardinal Vidal for beautifying this Cathedral! Although it's a bit similar with the old altar based on the old pictures that I saw, this ismor majestic than the previous one (the one with the huge IHS and those pink lights??), I pray that the same may also happen to all our churches who were damaged by those wrecknovations...
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