The St. Peter's Square and The St. Peter's Basilica. The St. Peter's Square is the place of Martyrdom of St. Peter where he was crucified by the pagan Romans under Emperor Nero. The place is now marked with the obelisk with the Holy Cross on top. Then he was buried in a nearby tomb also in Vatican Hill. The Catholics built a Temple over his burial place and now it has grown into a large and beautiful Basilica being visited by millions of tourist a year and about 30, 000 daily.
The Map showing the locations of the Seven Hills of Rome. It also shows that the VATICAN HILL, which is the center of the Catholic Church, is not one of them. It is located away from the Seven Hills right at the other side of the Tiber River.
The City of Istanbul later named Constantinople known as the The Second Rome is also called The City of Seven Hills. The Map shows the location of each of her hills.Anonymous said...
Fr.Abe about po sa book of revelation
sinasabi din po ng mga relative ko dito
na ang vatican city ay nasa book of revelation.
Totoo po ba ito? Ano po ba ang tamang interpretasyon ng book of revelation?
Bro.Clint
July 29, 2010 8:34 PM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
Dear Bro. Clint,
Basahin man nila ang Biblia ng paulit ulit at pabaligtad wala silang makikitang Vatican City duon.
Ang common accusation from Anti-Catholic ay yun daw WHORE OF BABYLON ay ROME [cf. Revelation 17]:
Rev 17:5 "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
Pano daw makikilala kung anong lugar ang tinutukoy na Whore of Babylon? Ito daw:
Rev 17:9 "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."
ANG BABAE DAW AY NAKAUPO SA ISANG CITY WITH 7 HILLS. Anong City ang may 7 Hills? Sabi nila ay ang ROMA daw dahil sikat sa kasaysayan ang Rome as The City with 7 Hills. These are the 7 Hills of Rome:
1. PALATINE HILL
2. AVENTINE HILL
3. CAPITOLINE HILL
4. QUIRINAL HILL
5. VIMINAL HILL
6. ESQUILINE HILL
7. CAELIAN HILL
Then they will say: Ayan, ang center of the Catholic Church is in Rome, therefore, the Whore of Babylon is the Roman Catholic Church. He, he, he... That is the common line of attack.
WHAT IS OUR CATHOLIC RESPONSE:
1. The Whore of Babylon refers to the Pagan Rome and its Evil Emperors who persecuted the Christians by feeding them to the Lions, Beheading and Crucifying them on the streets and even burning them alive.
In fact, CHECK THE 7 HILLS OF ROME. NONE OF THEM IS VATICAN HILL!
THE CENTER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT IN ANCIENT ROME WHICH WAS THE SEAT OF EMPEROR NERO, CALIGULA, ETC. BUT THE VATICAN HILL THE PLACE OF MARTYRDOM AND BURIAL OF ST. PETER THE APOSTLE. THAT PLACE IS BEYOND THE TIBER RIVER AND NOT PART OF THE SEVEN HILLS OF ROME.
2. The Church that defeated Roman Paganism and stopped the Persecutions of Christians is THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. She did that by the grace of God when Emperor Constantine became Christian. His mother was Catholic, The Empress Helena, a very holy and pious woman. In fact, she is a CAtholic Saint.
It says that the Whore of Babylon shall be destroyed. Indeed, the Pagan Rome was destroyed... defeated by CATHOLICS. Now the Roman Coliseum where the Christians were being fed to the lions is now owned by the CATHOLIC CHURCH.
3. Rome is not the only City known as The City of Seven Hills. There is another. Actually there are many others. Including JERUSALEM:
Here are the 7 Hills of Jerusalem
1) The northern summit (hill) is called Scopus [Hill One],
2) The middle summit (hill) was called Nob [Hill Two],
3) The highest point of Olivet itself, and the southern summit (hill) was called in the Holy Scriptures the "Mount of Corruption" or "Mount of Offence" [Hill Three] (II Kings 23:13).
4)On the middle ridge between the Kedron and the Tyropoeon Valleys there was (formerly) in the south "Mount Zion" [Hill Four] (the original "Mount Zion" and not the later southwest hill that was later called by that name),
5) The "Ophel Mount" [Hill Five],
6) To the north of that the "Rock" around which "Fort Antonia" was built [Hill Six],
7) And finally, there was the southwest hill itself [Hill Seven] that finally became known in the time of Simon the Hasmonean as the new "Mount Zion."
The false Christ will come to Jerusalem (the "City of Seven Hills") in order to rule the world, NOT to Rome in Italy!
This corresponds to the earlier statement of St. John that the place of persecution of the Church and murderers of saints is "the place where the Lord was crucified":
Rev 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
What City is that? JERUSALEM NOT ROME.
AS A BONUS HERE IS THE LIST OF CITIES WITH SEVEN HILLS FROM THE WIKIPEDIA:
List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
City of Seven Hills usually refers to Rome. There are 51 cities on this list. There are many other cities claimed to be built on seven hills or less than seven.
Amman, Jordan, Originally spread over seven hills like Rome, Amman now covers at least nineteen hills. The highest hill is Citadel Hill/Jabal el Qala,
Asunción, Paraguay, There are several small hills and slightly elevated areas throughout the city, including Cabará, Clavel, Tarumá, Cachinga, and Tacumbú, among others.
Bamberg, Bavaria, Germany, The seven hills of Bamberg are; Cathedral Hill, Michaelsberg, Kaulberg/Obere Pfarre, Stefansberg, Jakobsberg, Altenburger Hill, and Abtsberg.
Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain said to be built on Mont Tàber, La Rovira, El Coll, El Carmel, La Peira, El Putxet and Montjuïc
Bath, England
Brussels, Belgium, said to be built on St.Michielsberg, Koudenberg, Warmoesberg, Kruidtuin, Kunstberg, Zavel and St.Pietersberg
Budapest, Hungary
Cagliari, Sardinia
Ceuta, Spain
Cincinnati, Ohio, United States
Dunedin, New Zealand
Edinburgh, Scotland
Gorzów, Poland
Guaranda, Ecuador
Iaşi, Romania (see Seven hills of Iaşi)
Istanbul, Turkey (see Seven hills of Istanbul)
Jerusalem, Israel [1], the northern summit (hill) is called Scopus [Hill One], The middle summit (hill) was called Nob [Hill Two], The highest point of Olivet itself, and the southern summit (hill) was called in the Holy Scriptures the "Mount of Corruption" or "Mount of Offence" [Hill Three] (II Kings 23:13), on the middle ridge between the Kedron and the Tyropoeon Valleys there was (formerly) in the south "Mount Zion" [Hill Four] (the original "Mount Zion" and not the later southwest hill that was later called by that name), the "Ophel Mount" [Hill Five], to the north of that the "Rock" around which "Fort Antonia" was built [Hill Six], and the southwest hill itself [Hill Seven] that finally became known in the time of Simon the Hasmonean as the new "Mount Zion."
Kampala, Uganda built on Mengo, Lubaga, Namirembe, Old Kampala, Kibuli, Nakasero and Makerere
Kiev, Ukraine [2]
Lisbon, Portugal
Los Angeles, California, United States
Lynchburg, Virginia, United States
Lviv, Ukraine
Macau
Mecca, Saudi Arabia
Melbourne, Australia
Moscow, Russia (See Seven hills of Moscow)
Nevada City, California, United States, built on Piety, Lost, Prospect, Aristocracy, Boulder, Nabob, and Buckeye Hills
Nijmegen, Netherlands
Nixa, Missouri, United States
Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Prague, Czech Republic, said to be built on seven or nine hills: Hradčany, Vítkov, (Opyš), Větrov, Skalka, (Emauzy), Vyšehrad, Karlov and Petřín
Providence, Rhode Island, built on Christian Hill, College Hill, Constitution Hill, Federal Hill, Smith Hill, Tockwotten Hill, and Weybosset Hill.
Pula, Croatia
Richmond, Virginia, United States, built on numerous hills and escarpments to include Union Hill, Church Hill, Council Hill, Shockoe Hill, Gambles Hill, Navy Hill and Oregon Hill.
Rome, Georgia, United States
Rome, Italy (see Seven hills of Rome)
Saint-Étienne, France
Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States
San Diego, California, United States
San Francisco, California, United States (see List of hills in San Francisco, California)
Seattle, Washington, United States (see Seven hills of Seattle)
Sheffield, England
Somerville, Massachusetts, United States
Tallahassee, Florida, United States
Tehran, Iran
Thiruvananthapuram, India
Tirumala, India
Torquay, England
Turku, Finland
Worcester, Massachusetts, United States, built on Airport Hill, Bancroft Hill, Belmont Hill, Grafton Hill, Green Hill, Pakachoag Hill, and Vernon Hill.
Zevenbergen, Netherlands
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fr.abe,gudpm po, anu po ang sex ng diyos? kasi po sabi ni bro.bibe cennon lalaki daw po siya. kahit daw ang 3rd person (holy spirit) lalaki din daw?
ReplyDelete22o po ba yun? sana po maliwanagan po ako. tnx po ng marami
Hi Fr.Abe,
ReplyDeleteSalamat po sa detalyeng pagpapaliwanag.
Ngayon ay alam ko na kung paano itutuwid ang kanilang maling paniniwala ukol sa vatican city sa revelation.
Papuri sa Diyos Ama, Anak at Espiritu Santo.
Bro.Clint
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteAng Dios bilang Dios ay Espiritu, walang laman at buto kaya walang kasarian. God is a Spirit [John 4:24].
Subalit, nung magkatawang tao ang Dios Anak siya ay naging Tao at nagkaroon ng laman at buto. Siya ang ating Panginoong Jesu-Cristo at pinili niyang maging LALAKI. Kaya tama din si Bro. Cenon. Isa pa, ang tawag ni Jesus sa Dios ay AMA at hindi Ina [cf. Matthew 6:6-9]. May instances na ang term na mother ay ginagamit sa Dios sa Lumang Tipan tulad ng paghahambing sa kanya sa "mother eagle". Pero yon ay analogical language lamang. The title 'Father' is truly belonging to the Essence of God as Creator and Provider. In that sense, lalaki ang Dios.
As regards the Holy Spirit, of course, the Spirit is a spirit. No flesh and matter. Therefore, He does not have sexual identity as we do.
How come Bro. Cenon referred to Him as male? Because the Holy Spirit is always spoken of by Christ as "He". Jesus was using Masculine Pronoun for the Holy Spirit. For instance,
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that HE may abide with you for ever"
John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
You see... "He shall abide"... "He shall teach you"... So, the Holy Spirit is Male based on the Words of the Lord Jesus.
Besides, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of God. Since Jesus is Male of course it follows that His Spirit is Male also. If it is female then Jesus is spiritually homosexual. That is foul.
Galatian 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth THE SPIRIT OF THE SON into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
So, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ and it is also the Spirit of God:
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And THE SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the face of the waters.
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Thus, we preserved both truth that God is Spirit and has no sexual gender but in the light of the Incarnation and the Revelation of God we refer to God as Male and not Female.
You're welcome Bro. Clint.
ReplyDeleteMagandang umaga po.
ReplyDeleteIto pong tanong ko eh may kinalaman sa infallibility ng pope. Matibay na ebidensya po ba yung Galatians 2:11 laban dito?
Salamat po.
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteHINDI. Hinding hindi.
Bakit? Ang Dogma of Infallibility ay hindi nangangahulugang si St. Peter o ang mga Popes na successors nya ay hindi na magkakamali. Obviously they can still commit mistakes. At iyan ang tinutukoy sa talata:
Gal 2:11 "But when Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him in public, because he was clearly wrong."
Of course every human beings can commit mistakes or errors in their every day life and in ordinary exercise of duties.
Ang Dogma of Infallibility ay nagtuturo na ang Santo Papa kapag nagtuturo ng Opisyal na aral bilang Lider ng Universal Church, tungkol sa Faith and Morals ay ginagabayan ng Espiritu Santo upang hindi makapagturo ng maling doctrina.
Kung paanong walang mali ang pagsusulat ng mga Apostol at mga Propeta sa Biblia gayun din naman ang lider ng Santa Iglesia ay protektado sa maling aral kapag opisyal ang pagtuturo at kapag tungkol sa Faith and Morals. Kaya nga nung sinulat ni San Pedro ang Two Epistles nya ay Infallible sya non. Walang mali duon kasi guided siya ng Holy Spirit.
Actually ang Infallible ay ang buong Santa Iglesia at siya ay kinakatawan ni San Pedro at ng kanyang mga Kahalili.
Ano ang basehan nito sa Biblia? Ito:
Mateo 16:18 "At sinasabi ko naman sa iyo, na ikaw ay Pedro, at sa ibabaw ng batong ito ay itatayo ko ang aking iglesia; at ang mga pintuan ng Hades ay hindi magsisipanaig laban sa kaniya."
ANG SANTA IGLESIANG ITINATAG KAY SAN PEDRO AY HINDI PANANAIGAN NG IMPIERNO O HADES. KAYA NGA ITO AT SI SAN PEDRO AY PROTEKTADO NI CRISTO KAY SATANAS.
Lucas 22:31-32 "Simon, Simon, narito, hiningi ka ni Satanas upang ikaw ay maliglig niyang gaya ng trigo: Datapuwa't ikaw ay ipinamanhik ko, na huwag magkulang ang iyong pananampalataya; at ikaw, kung makapagbalik ka nang muli, ay papagtibayin mo ang iyong mga kapatid."
GUSTO NI SATANAS NA WASAKIN SI PEDRO. PAANO? SA PAMAMAGITAN NG MALING ARAL AT TURO. SUBALIT NANALANGIN ANG PANGINOONG JESUS PARA SA KANYA. AT SIYA ANG MAGPAPATATAG SA MGA KAPATID. SA PAANONG PARAAN? SA PAGTUTURO SA KANILA NG TAMANG DOCTRINA AT MORALIDAD.
Nagkakamali pa rin si San Pedro pero hindi sa Opisyal na Turo at Doctrina tungkol sa Faith and Morals.
PINAGSABIHAN NI SAN PABLO SI SAN PEDRO:
Walang masama diyan. Part yan ng fraternal correction. Tinanggap ni St. Peter ang correction with humility and grace.
Hindi porke kinorekta e mas mataas na si Pablo kay Pedro. Kasi normal na ang mga lower ranking officials ay nagsasalita sa kanilang leader pero hindi nawawala ang higher authority ng lider na iyon.
Halimbawa, Senator Joker Arroyo corrected President Noynoy Aquino about legal matters involving the Truth Commission. Ibig bang sabihin mas mataas na si Sen. Joker Arroyo kesa kay Pres. Noynoy. Of course not. Madalas na ang presidente ay pinagsasabihan at kinokorecta at ino-oppose ng mga Senators, Congressmen o Media Men subalit mas mataas pa rin ang Presidente kesa sa kanila.
dear Fr. ABE , please take note that also UBERABA CITY ( estado do Minas gerais - Brasil ) its built on 7 hills : we are living in the Hill of BOA VISTA , other hills are : ESTADOS UNIDOS, TRIANGULO MINEIRO , SANTA MARTA , SAO BENDITO, ABADIA , APARECIDA.
ReplyDeleteO, thank you Fr. Paolo. That's a very good information. Imagine that.
ReplyDeleteAng sabi sa talata, SEVEN MOUNTAINS. Hindi naman sinasabi na SEVEN HILLS. Sa tagalog ang mountain ay BUNDOK at ang HILL ay BUROL. Magkaiba iyon. It is stretching the Bible a bit too far just to accomodate Rome as the whore of Babylon.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the Vatican? It is a different hill altogether, outside the seven hills of Rome.
Ha, ha, ha... Thank you very much Bro. Mars. Napakalaki ng kaibahan ng BUNDOK sa BUROL. Ha, ha, ha...
ReplyDeletefather Abe, patungkol po ba sa sto nino ang Isiah 9:6? Sana ma explain mo kung papaano ko masagot ang mga biblistang mga protestante lalonglalo na ang mga saksi, iglesia ni kiko at mormons. imbento lang daw po ng mga mangmang ang sto nino. by the way. ako poy bago nyong fan at suki...
ReplyDeleteDEAR BRO. ANDEE,
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TUNGKOL SA ISAIAS 9:6, TUNAY NA ITO AY TUMUTUKOY SA STO. NINO. DAHIL ITO AY NAGSASAAD NG HULA TUNGKOL SA PANGINOONG JESUS NA MAGIGING BATA NA ISISILANG. SIYA AY DIOS AT HARI. KAYA NGA ANG STO. NINO AY NAKADAMIT NG DAMIT NG PRINSEPE AT HAWAK NIYA ANG DAIGDIG DAHIL SIYA ANG TAGAPAMAHALA NG LAHAT AT TAGLAY NIYA ANG KAPANGYARIHAN NG DIOS:
Isaiah 9:6 Ang Biblia "Sapagka't sa atin ay ipinanganak ang isang bata, sa atin ay ibinigay ang isang anak na lalake; at ang pamamahala ay maaatang sa kaniyang balikat: at ang kaniyang pangalan ay tatawaging Kamanghamangha, Tagapayo, Makapangyarihang Dios, Walang hanggang Ama, Pangulo ng Kapayapaan."
AKMANG AKMA SA ATING PANGINOON, ANG SENYOR STO. NINO.
SUBALIT MERON PANG ISA PANG TALATA NA TALAGANG WORD FOR WORD ANG STO. NINO. REMEMBER AND STO. NINO IS NOT ENGLISH BUT SPANISH. LET US CHECK THE SPANISH BIBLE:
Isaías 9:6 Spanish: La Nueva Biblia de los Hispanos (©2005)
Porque un Niño nos ha nacido, un Hijo nos ha sido dado, Y la soberanía reposará sobre Sus hombros. Y se llamará Su nombre Admirable Consejero, Dios Poderoso, Padre Eterno, Príncipe de Paz.
Isaías 9:6 Spanish: Reina Valera (1909)
Porque un niño nos es nacido, hijo nos es dado; y el principado sobre su hombro: y llamaráse su nombre Admirable, Consejero, Dios fuerte, Padre eterno, Príncipe de paz.
Isaías 9:6 Spanish: Sagradas Escrituras (1569)
Porque niño nos es nacido, hijo nos es dado; y el principado es asentado sobre su hombro. Y se llamará El Admirable, El Consejero, El Dios, El Fuerte, El Padre Eterno, El Príncipe de Paz.
HA, HA, HA... TIGNAN MONG MABUTI. TATLONG PROTESTANT SPANISH BIBLES YAN. ANONG NAKALAGAY?
ReplyDelete"un Niño nos ha nacido"
ISINILANG ANG Niño. YAN SI JESUS, YAN ANG STO. NINO NATIN. STO. NINO DAHIL WALANG KAPINTASAN AT BANAL NA BANAL SI JESUS. HE, HE, HE...
NGAYON, MERON BA TAYONG MABABASA NA LETRA POR LETRA NA STO. NINO? MERON. ITO TIGNAN MO:
Lucas 1:35 [Nueva Vercion Internacional]
"—El Espíritu Santo vendrá sobre ti, y el poder del Altísimo te cubrirá con su sombra. Así que al santo niño que va a nacer lo llamarán Hijo de Dios."
IN ENGLISH:
Luke 1:35 (New International Version)"The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[a] the Son of God."
SEE. WORD FOR WORD NA STO. NINO YAN. HA, HA, HA...
Father Abe this is one cunning answer!!! I love it!!! ha ha ha!! I almost died laughing kasi po talagang tumpak yong answer nyo! Sampal talaga sa kanilang mga anti-Catholics itong answer nyo! nyek nyek nila! hahahha Praise God, Father, Son and Holy SPirit!
ReplyDeletePRAISE THE LORD BRO. GLENN
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