NEW ROUND OF EXCHANGES WITH BORN-AGAIN BAPTISTS Part 1

The Blessed Apostle Paul with St. Titus... preaching courageously for the faith

Bryan Bustamante said...

Catholic's Doctrines are way to unbiblical for a fact. Come, I will tell you the facts of Catholic Doctrines which are not true. Or you my want to conduct a personal debate.

June 26, 2010 8:46 AM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

You can post here those so called unbiblical doctrines of the Catholic Church and let us see if they are non Biblical or not.

By the way Bryan. I have clicked the link on your name and it leads me to almost zero information about you and your faith. I hope you can truly disclosed yourself as I am and reveal your true religion or church or fellowship. So that we can COMPARE our faith. We will also be eager to check your doctrines if they are Biblical or not.

As you want to scrutinize our doctrines we also want to check yours through the Bible.

June 26, 2010 2:28 PM

Bryan Bustamante said...

I don't need to put up information about my faith. I don't need to boast my faith. My faith is sacred. It is between me and God. I'm a plain Christian with a relationship with God. I'm not comparing my faith to you. I'm here for the doctrines.

So tell me about this,

Historical background of the Roman Catholic(briefly).

Why sign of the cross?

Why pray to Mary? Why claim her as queen?

Why pray the rosary?

Why have engraved images and idols in the chapels and parish?

Why put up an imaginary purgatory?

Why condemn our 5 solas? Is that it because you have different doctrines other than the bible?

*I want you to answer all these plainly. And most importantly biblical.

Why accused us Christians of having different doctrines? We stick to the first sola (Sola Scriptura). Bible alone. Scripture alone. We don't have any other doctrines which Catholics have, the cathecism.

June 26, 2010 3:49 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Why accused us Christians of having different doctrines?]

EXCUSE ME MR. BUSTAMANTE OR WHOEVER. WELL, IM NOT SURE OF YOUR REAL IDENTITY SO THAT'S IT.

THE CATHOLICS ARE THE FIRST AND REAL CHRISTIANS. WE ARE THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND YOURS WERE LATER INVENTED. SO STOP CLAIMING CHRISTIANITY FOR YOURSELF BECAUSE WHEN WE SPEAK OF CHRISTIANITY IT INCLUDES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS THE FIRST AND THE BIGGEST CHRISTIAN CHURCH THERE IS.

DEFINITELY I AM NOT ACCUSING CHRISTIAN 'SELVES' AS YOU TERMED IT. I AM ACCUSING YOU AND YOUR LATER INVENTED DOCTRINES.

[We stick to the first sola (Sola Scriptura). Bible alone.]

YOU ARE STICKING TO THE 16TH CENTURY SOLA OF MARTIN LUTHER. THAT IS NOT THE SOLA OF JESUS CHRIST OR OF THE APOSTLES OR OF THE EARLY CHRISTIANS. THAT IS WHY IT IS SATANIC BECAUSE IT IS INVENTED 1,500 YEARS ONLY AFTER CHRIST.

DID JESUS TEACH SOLA SCRIPTURA? WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.

DID THE APOSTLES TEACH SOLA SCRIPTURA? WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.

[Scripture alone.]

THAT IS DEMONIC. THAT IS JUST INVENTED BY YOU AND YOUR KIND. WHERE IN THE BIBLE IS SOLA SCRIPTURA? WHERE IS IT DECLARED IN THE BIBLE THAT DOCTRINE OF SCRIPTURE ALONE? WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.

[We don't have any other doctrines which Catholics have, the cathecism.]

YOU ONLY SHOWED YOUR IGNORANCE OF WHAT A CATECHISM IS. THE CATECHISM IS NOT A DOCTRINE BUT A MANUAL OF INSTRUCTION WE ARE USING FOR TEACHING THE FAITH. IT CONTAINS THE SUMMARIZED FORMS OF OUR BIBLICAL BELIEFS. DON'T TELL ME THAT IT IS NOW EVIL TO WRITE ONE'S FAITH IN A BOOK OR MANUAL OR ESSAY OR OTHER MODES OF WRITING.

[I don't need to put up information about my faith.]

YOU SEE HOW HYCRITE YOU ARE. YOU WANT TO ATTACK THE FAITH OF 1.1 BILLION PEOPLE YET YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO SCRUTINIZE YOUR FAITH. WHY? ARE YOU AFRAID THAT YOUR FAITH WILL NOT LIVE UP TO THE STANDARD THAT YOU ARE USING AGAINST US? HA, HA, HA... OBVIOUSLY. IF IT IS BIBLICAL THEN YOU WILL NOT BE AFRAID TO PRESENT IT. HE, HE, HE... LET ME SEE WHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND SOLA SCRIPTURA? HA, HA, HA...

[I don't need to boast my faith.]

A TRUE AND GENUINE CHRISTIAN MUST PROCLAIM HIS FAITH. YOU ARE HIDING YOUR FAITH. SHAME ON YOU. IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THESE DAYS THAT THE SO-CALLED COURAGEOUS BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE COWARDS AFTER ALL. HA, HA, HA...

[My faith is sacred.]

YOUR FAITH IS A PIECE OF JUNK LIKE YOUR SOLA SCRIPTURA INVENTED IN THE 16TH CENTURY. YOU ARE ASHAMED OF YOUR FAITH BECAUSE IT IS RECENTLY INVENTED BY YOUR SELF-PROCLAIMED PASTORS.

[It is between me and God.]

THAT IS SATANIC. THE REAL CHRISTIAN FAITH IS COMMUNITARIAN AND MUST BE PROCLAIMED ON THE HOUSETOPS [MATTHEW 10:27]. HOW COME YOUR FAITH IS BEING KEPT IN THE DARKNESS WHILE WE PROCLAIM OUR FAITH ON BROAD DAYLIGHT AND WITH FULL VOICE THAT WE CAN GIVE? YOU ARE AFRAID OF YOUR OWN FAITH ISN'T IT? YOU FIND IT UNCONVINCING EVEN TO YOURSELF. HA, HA,H A...

[I'm a plain Christian with a relationship with God.]

THAT IS NOT PLAIN CHRISTIANITY. YOU HAVE HIDDEN YOUR FAITH AND YOU ARE HIDING YOURSELF. YOU HAVE A HIDDEN PLAN AND THEREFORE YOU CANNOT BE TRUSTED. YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A FAKE CHRISTIAN. THAT ATTITUDE IS MORE PROPER FOR SATANISTS AND SORCERERS WHO OPERATE ANONYMOUSLY. YOUR RELIGIOSITY IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE TALIBAN. YOU ATTACK TREACHEROUSLY WHILE HIDING YOUR OWN FAITH.

[I'm not comparing my faith to you.]

WELL, I AM DEMANDING THAT YOU GIVE YOUR IDENTITY AND YOUR FAITH AND THE NAME OF YOUR CHURCH OR FELLOWSHIP. THE REAL ONES. BECAUSE YOU ARE QUESTIONING THE BIBLICAL AUTHENTICITY OF MY FAITH. YOU HAVE JUDGED OUR FAITH ALREADY AS UNBIBLICAL. THEREFORE, WE WANT TO SCRUTINIZE YOUR OWN FAITH PLAINLY TO SEE IF IT IS BIBLICAL. LET US BE FAIR WITH ONE ANOTHER.

[I'm here for the doctrines.]

I'M HERE FOR MY DOCTRINES. AND I AM ALSO HERE TO CHECK ON YOUR DOCTRINES. I WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND PUT IT INTO THE SAME TESTS AND CRITERIA LIKE THOSE YOU HAVE EMPLOYED IN MINE. HA, HA, HA...

June 26, 2010 4:54 PM