Pope Benedict XVI
Anglo-Catholic bishops try to rally supporters but foresee conversions to Rome
London, England, August 3 (CNA/EWTN News) .- Fifteen Anglican bishops have acknowledged that many Anglicans will convert to Roman Catholicism because of current proposals to ordain women as bishops. Granting that the Anglo-Catholic tradition will not have room to grow under the proposals, they nonetheless urged "traditionalist" priests and deacons to continue their opposition.
The prelates responded to an open letter from over 1,000 Church of England priests and deacons who oppose new changes that would allow the ordination of women as bishops without concessions for those who reject the practice as inconsistent with the Christian tradition.
"These are grave times in the Church of England especially for those of us unable in good conscience to accept that any particular church has the authority to admit women to the episcopate," the fifteen Anglican bishops' July 27 letter began.
The bishops acknowledged that some Anglo-Catholics, including some bishops, are considering joining the Ordinariate established by Pope Benedict XVI for former Anglicans. Others will individually convert to Roman Catholicism.
"Were the present proposals not to be substantially amended or defeated, many more of us will need to consider seriously these options," the bishops wrote.
A number of Anglo-Catholics will remain in the Church of England because of personal circumstances, family loyalty or financial necessity, but they will do so with a well-founded "deep sense of unease," the bishops said.
"Our concerns are not only about sacramental assurance though that is of profound importance. If the legislation now proposed passes, it will not provide room for our tradition to grow and flourish," they warned.
The 15 bishops said a majority of the Church of England supports the ordination of women as bishops, and many in authority will not encourage the church's "traditional integrity." Noting that a recent compromise measure proposed by Archbishops Rowan Williams and John Sentamu only narrowly failed, the bishops argued that the "closeness of the vote" suggests "at least a measure of disquiet" in the majority about proceeding.
"Those who are not actively seeking a home elsewhere must work to defeat the currently proposed legislation," the bishops urged.
"We are all bishops united in our belief that the Church of England is mistaken in its actions. However, we must be honest and say we are not united as to how we should respond to these developments," they continued, pledging respect for other Anglo-Catholics' decisions and advising against "unguarded or uncharitable criticism" of those who take different action.
The bishops' letter noted that provincial meetings of the clergy in late September will have opportunities to discuss the future.
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Fr, may kakilala po akong friend na inaya po ako dati sa kanilang religous catholic org at naencounter ko kung paano sila magworship. They are just like protestant raising their hands, playing loud and solemn musics to praise god and i heard them speaking words that goes like "we praise you lord god, we glorify your name, we worship YOU ...SHILALA....!!" (basta po fr, di ko maintindihan!) then i asked them why are they speaking in that manner, they answered me that it is part of their worship which is called "praying in tongues". They said that by praying in tongues, satan did not know what they are saying and only god can interpret that. And if I'm not mistaken, his org is YFC, one of the family ministry of CFC.
ReplyDeleteWhy are they worshiping like protestants (with loud musics, guitars, bands and the likes). Does their practice of worshiping does not violate or contradict to the catholic teachings? Anu po ba ang turo ng church about the "praying in tongues" or is it really a catholic teaching? If not, why these people are still practicing this thing? Tnx po fr, Godbless :)!!!
Dear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYour concern is also my concern.
I also notice that some Catholic organizations are imitating the manner of worships of Protestants by using loud music, singing and dancing as if that is the Biblical manner of worship. Instead, what the Lord Jesus had handed to us and what the Apostles did was the Solemn celebration of the Eucharist.
Concerning the speaking in Tongues. Their reasoning is very illogical. They want to use God as an excuse for not understanding the message. On the contrary God prefers a clear and undestandable message... one that is reasonable, logical and unambiguous. It is Satan who prefers a message that nobody understands. So that the witches, the diviners, sorcerers and mediusm commonly employ gibberish sounds which no one understands.
The Gospel Message is a Kerygma it is a Proclamation with a goal for it to be known, to be understood and to be accepted by the people. The Message of God is very rich and sometimes requires reflections to understand like the Parables but they are never gibberish and nonsense sounds. The Parables and Sayings of Jesus sometimes are difficult to understand because they are rich in meaning but each story or line is simple: about a sower, about the shepherd and the flock, about the flowers of the field, etc.
That is why that so-called Speaking in Tongue is dangerous. It can be a venue for evil spirits to enter into the mind of the one doing it. Actually I have heard reports of such incidents.
THE BEST PRAYER IS OUR FATHER, PERSONALLY TAUGHT BY JESUS AND THE ANGELIC SALUTATION, HAIL MARY, WHICH SUMMARIZES THE HISTORY OF SALVATION. A MILLION SPEAKING IN TONGUES IS GARBAGE INCOMPARISON WITH ONE OUR FATHER. BECAUSE ITIS THE WORD OF GOD... WHILE THOSE SOUNDS FROM SPEAKING IN TONGUES BELONGS TO THE ANIMALS.
The real speaking in tongues was not like that. It was a proclamation of the Gospel understood by all the listeners.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that St. Paul speaks of one interpreting the tongues?
1 Cor 12:6 And there are diversities of workings, but the same God, who worketh all things in all.
MARAMI GAWAIN SA SUBALIT GALING SA IISANG DIOS.
1 Cor 12:7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit to profit withal.
BAWAT ISA AY PINAGKALOOBAN NG HANDOG NA GALING SA IISANG ESPIRITU.
1 Cor 12:8 For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit:
MERONG PINAGKALOOBAN NG KARUNUNGAN. KAYA MERON TAYONG MGA GENIUS AT MGA SCHOLARS. MERON DIN NAMANG MAGALING MAGPALIWANAG.
1 Cor 12:9 to another faith, in the same Spirit; and to another gifts of healings, in the one Spirit;
MERONG NAGTATAGLAY NG MAS MALAKAS O MATIBAY NA PANANAMPALATAYA AT MERONG NAGPAPAGALING NG MGA MAYSAKIT.
1 Cor 12:10 and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits: to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues:
MERONG MGA MIRACLE WORKERS KAGAYA NG ATING MGA SAINTS AT MAYROONG NAKAPAG PROPESIYA, AT MERONG MAY ABILITY TO DISCERN THE SPIRITS... ITO ANG ATING GMA SPIRITUAL MASTERS.
ANO YANG DIVERSE TONGUES? IBIG SABIHIN MAY ABILIDAD MAGSALITA SA IBAT IBANG WIKA. TULAD NI POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AT POPE BENEDICT XVI. THEY CAN SPEAK GERMAN, FRENCH, ENGLISH, SPANISH, LATIN, GREEK, HEBREW FLUENTLY.
ANO NAMAN ANG INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES? YUNG SALITA NG DIOS AY PINAPALIWANAG NG MABUTI SA MGA TAO. ITO ANG GAWAIN NG DIACONO, PARI AT OBISPO SA MISA. KAPAG MERONG HINDI MAINTINDIHAN ANG MGA TAO SA BIBLIA ANG MGA GURO NG PANANAMPALATAYA ANG NAGPAPALIWANAG. SUBALIT WALANG SINASABI DYAN NA DAPAT YUNG SPEAKING IN TONGUES AY HINDI NAIINTINDIHAN.
1 Cor 12:11 but all these worketh the one and the same Spirit, dividing to each one severally even as he will.
SUBALIT ANG LAHAT NG ATING BIYAYA AY DAPAT GALING SA HOLY SPIRIT. YANG SPEAKING IN TONGUES NA GINAGAYA NILA GALING SA MGA PROTESTANTENG MGA HERETICO.
1 Cor 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ.
DAPAT TAYONG LAHAT AY UNITED INTO ONE BODY WITH CHRIST. ANO YAN? ANG CHURCH. ANG CHURCH ANG BODY NI CHRIST. ANG MGA PROTESTANTE AY HINDI MEMBERS OF THE BODY OF CHRIST. THEY ARE HERETICS AND ENEMIES OF THE TRUE FAITH. KAYA HINDI NATIN DAPAT GAYAHIN ANG KANILANG MANNERS OF WORSHIPS.