St. Peter standing... a beautiful mosaic
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Roman Catholic Church Catechism vs. The Holy Bible.
Catechism
1. Peter was the Head of the Apostles [552,768,880]
Bible
- Christ was the Head of the apostles (John 13:13)
Catechism
2. The Bishop, is the Successor 0f the Apostle [861-862, 936]
Bible
- The Apostles had no Successor, for to Succeed them one needed to be a witness of Christ's Resurrection (Acts 1:21, 22)
Catechism
3. The Pope, as the bishop of Rome, is the successor of Peter [882, 938]
Bible
-Peter had no Successor
Catechism
4. The bishop, with Popes as their head, rules the universal Church [883, 894-896].
Bible
-Christ, the Head of the Body, Rules the Universal Churches (Colossians 1:18)
Catechism
5. God has Entrusted revelation to the Roman Catholic Bishops [81, 86]
Bible
- God has Entrusted revelation to the Saints (Jude 3)
Catechism
6. The Magisterium is the authoritative teacher of the Church [85, 87]
Bible
- The Holy Spirit is the authoritative teacher of the Church (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:27)
Catechism
8. The Pope is infallible interpreter of the Scripture [891]
Bible
-God Alone is infallible (Numbers 23:19)
Catechism
9. The Magisterium alone has the ability and the right to interpret the Scripture [85, 100,
939]
Bible
-Every Christian, aided by the Holy Spirit, has Ability and the right to interpret the Scripture (Acts 17:11; 1 Corinthians 2:12-16)
Catechism
10. Scripture is to be interpreted in the sense in which it has been define by the Magisterium [113, 119]
Bible
- Scripture must be Interpreted in the original sense intended by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 3:14 -16)
Catechism
11. The Magisterium has the right to define truth found only obscurely or implicitly of the revelation [66, 82
Bible
- No One has right to go beyond what is written in Scripture (1 Corinthians 4:6, Proverbs 30:6)
Catechism
12. The Scripture and Tradition together are the Word of God [81, 85, 97, and 182]
Bible
-Scripture is the Word of God (John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20, 21). Tradition is the Words of men (Mark 7:1-13)
Catechism
13. Scripture and the Tradition together are the Church’s Supreme rule of Faith [80, 82]
-Bible
-Scripture is the Church’s only Rule of Faith (Mark 7:7-13, 2 Timothy 3:16, 17)
Wala akong religion. Pero wag kayong magkalat ng lason sa isipan ng tao...
August 24, 2010 9:39 PM
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
[Roman Catholic Church Catechism vs. The Holy Bible.]
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CATECHISM IS ESSENTIALLY FOUNDED ON THE HOLY BIBLE.
[Catechism
1. Peter was the Head of the Apostles [552,768,880]
Bible
- Christ was the Head of the apostles (John 13:13)]
HA, HA, HA... THIS IS A VERY CHEAP SHOT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU:
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR...
HERE IS WHAT IS STATED BY THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH [CCC]:
CCC#552 Simon Peter holds the first place in the college of the Twelve;283 Jesus entrusted a unique mission to him. Through a revelation from the Father, Peter had confessed: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Our Lord then declared to him: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."284 Christ, the "living Stone",285 thus assures his Church, built on Peter, of victory over the powers of death. Because of the faith he confessed Peter will remain the unshakable rock of the Church. His mission will be to keep this faith from every lapse and to strengthen his brothers in it.
THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DIDN'T SAY THAT PETER IS THE HEAD OF THE APOSTLES BUT SIMPLLY "The first of the Twelve" AND FOR WHAT REASON? BECAUSE JESUS THE LORD 'THE CORNER STONE' OF THE CHURCH GAVE SPECIAL MISSION ON PETER.
IT IS THEREFORE SATANIC FOR YOU TO CLAIM THAT OUR CCC CONSIDER PETER AS HIGHER THAN JESUS FOR BEING 'THE HEAD' OF THE APOSTLES.
THEN THE SECOND NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN [CCC#768] HAS NO MENTION OF PETER AT ALL:
CCC#768 So that she can fulfill her mission, the Holy Spirit "bestows upon [the Church] varied hierarchic and charismatic gifts, and in this way directs her."177 "Henceforward the Church, endowed with the gifts of her founder and faithfully observing his precepts of charity, humility and self-denial, receives the mission of proclaiming and establishing among all peoples the Kingdom of Christ and of God, and she is on earth the seed and the beginning of that kingdom."
AGAIN. LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... HA, HA, HA...
CCC#880 When Christ instituted the Twelve, "he constituted [them] in the form of a college or permanent assembly, at the head of which he placed Peter, chosen from among them."398 Just as "by the Lord's institution, St. Peter and the rest of the apostles constitute a single apostolic college, so in like fashion the Roman Pontiff, Peter's successor, and the bishops, the successors of the apostles, are related with and united to one another."
HA, HA, HA... THE CCC#880 DIDN'T SAY THAT PETER IS THE HEAD OF THE APOSTLES. IT SIMPLY STATES THAT JESUS PUT PETER AT THE HEAD OF THE COLLEGE OR GROUP OF APOSTLES. IT MEANS THAT PETER IS FIRST AMONG THE APOSTLES BUT SURELY THE LORD JESUS IS HIGHER THAN PETER BECAUSE IT WAS BY HIS AUTHORITY THAT PETER IS AHEAD OF THE OTHERS.
Matthew 10:2-4 These are the names of the twelve apostles: FIRST, SIMON (called PETER) and his brother Andrew; James and his brother John, the sons of Zebedee; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew, the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Patriot, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus.
HA, HA, HA... WORD FOR WORD, LITERALLY PETER WAS REFERRED TO AS 'FIRST'. HA, HA, HA... ANDREW IS SECOND.
THE OTHER EVANGELISTS DIDN'T SAY 'FIRST' BUT PUT PETER AHEAD OF THE GROUP:
Mark 3:16-19 These are the twelve he chose: SIMON (Jesus gave him the name PETER); James and his brother John, the sons of Zebedee (Jesus gave them the name Boanerges, which means "Men of Thunder"); Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon the Patriot, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus.
HA, HA, HA... PETER IS THE FIRST. AHEAD OF OTHERS WITH JAMES SON OF ZEBEDEE TAKING THE SECOND FIDDLE FROM THAT OF ANDREW. HE, HE, HE...
Luke 6:13-16 When day came, he called his disciples to him and chose twelve of them, whom he named apostles: SIMON (whom he named PETER) and his brother Andrew; James and John, Philip and Bartholomew, Matthew and Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, and Simon (who was called the Patriot), Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became the traitor.
AGAIN, PETER IS FIRST OF THE TWELVE. HE IS AHEAD OF OTHERS. AGAIN, ANDREW IS SECOND. HA, HA, HA... ONE MORE FOR YOUR HOT AIR:
Act 1:13 They entered the city and went up to the room where they were staying: PETER, John, James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James son of Alphaeus, Simon the Patriot, and Judas son of James.
PETER IS FIRST AGAIN WITH JOHN SON OF ZEBEDEE BECOMING SECOND. HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE KNOCKED OUT BY UNANIMOUS DECISION.
YES, THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS BIBLICAL!
August 26, 2010 8:25 PM
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MAY BAGO AKONG TERM FOR ANTI-CATHOLICS NA NAGTATAGO SA ANONYMOUS.... MGA HUNG-HANG!!!!!!!!
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12. The Scripture and Tradition together are the Word of God [81, 85, 97, and 182]
Bible
-Scripture is the Word of God (John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20, 21). Tradition is the Words of men (Mark 7:1-13]
So where does the Bible say that the Word of God is exclusively the one written down? What about those were not written down John 21:25? are they no longer the Words of God?
John 10:35 is referring to the Old Testament not to the Bible as what we have now. And where in this passage says that Scripture is the only Word of God? Where??
2 Timothy 3:16- Is referring to the Old Testament as being God-breath because they do not yet have the Bible when Paul wrote this epistle to Timithy. Verse 15 of the same passage says "from your infancy you have known the Scriptures", in the times of Timothy's infancy not a single book or epistle of the New Testament was ever written yet! You are adding to the word of God by giving it a different by taking it out of its context.
Not all traditions were condemned by Christ!
2 Thess.2:15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and HOLD THE TRADITIONS, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle.
2 Thess.3:16
And we charge you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the TRADITION which they have received of us.
This Tradition is called Apostolic Tradition which is only present in Christ True Church!
[13. Scripture and the Tradition together are the Church’s Supreme rule of Faith [80, 82]
-Bible
-Scripture is the Church’s only Rule of Faith (Mark 7:7-13, 2 Timothy 3:16, 17]
Mark 7:7-13 is precisely targeting people like you and your pastors who propagate the doctrine of the devil such as SOLA FIDE and SOLA SCRIPTURA which were only invented by the Reformers!
2 Timothy 3:16, 17 it doesn't say in this passage that Scripture is the only rule of faith. If Scripture is the only rule of faith then demonstrate the Canon of Scriptures using the principles of Sola Scriptura.
On the contrary the Bible said that the Church is the pillar and bulwark of truth,
"But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth."
That is why Christ commanded us to go to the Church if there are disagreements among the brothers.
Mt.18:17
"And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican."
Christ said "tell the church" not "refer to the scriptures" and "if he will not hear the church" not "if he is unbiblical"
Clearly the Church is the final authority of Christians!
[Wala akong religion. Pero wag kayong magkalat ng lason sa isipan ng tao...]
You say you have no religion? then you are satanic! Religion is an expression of love towards God, Lucifer has no religion because he does not love God. You claim to have no religion then you are one with Lucifer!
St. Paul even have religion!
1 Timothy 3:16 [Contemporary English Version]
Here is the great mystery of OUR RELIGION: Christ came as a human. The Spirit proved that he pleased God, and he was seen by angels. Christ was preached to the nations. People in this world put their faith in him, and he was taken up to glory.
Paul said in verbatim OUR RELIGION, what then is the religion of Paul? Christianity! therefore Christianity is a religion! And since you claim "wala akong religion" therefore you are not a Christian!
[Pero wag kayong magkalat ng lason sa isipan ng tao...]
HAHAHA ANO BAYGON OR RAID? hahaha poison na pala maging Biblical sa lahat ng turo? haha you are the one who is spreading the poison. Projection ka lang!
* Projection is a term used in psychiatric nursing which means that you are accusing someone of the things that you yourself are doing.
HA, HA, HA... THANK YOU BRO. ISAHEL FOR SUCH A WONDERFUL EXPOSITION OF THE BIBLICAL FOUNDATION OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH. Pro Deo et Ecclesia!
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KAYA NGA NAGTATAGO NG MGA MUKA BROD E. HA, HA, HA... PARA MAGING MANHID. HA, HA, HA...
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ReplyDeleteJust now I have read this posted arguments of ANTI-CATHOLIC.
Please let me post my replies below:
Catechism
1. Peter was the Head of the Apostles [CCC#552,768,880]
True.
Bible
- Christ was the Head of the apostles (John 13:13)
Both are true. Peter is the Chief Shepherd after Christ (Jn 21:15-17). Jesus is the head in spiritual sense and Peter is the head in physical sense.
Catechism
2. The Bishop, is the Successor 0f the Apostle [861-862, 936]
YES, that's True.
Bible
- The Apostles had no Successor, for to Succeed them one needed to be a witness of Christ's Resurrection (Acts 1:21, 22)
Matthias was chosen to replace Judas "and he was counted with the eleven apostles" (Acts 1:26). Bishops do not replace one of the original 12 Apostles, as Matthias did -- they are successors to the Apostles. Example: Sts. Timothy and Titus were ordained Bishops as successors to St. Paul.
Catechism
3. The Pope, as the bishop of Rome, is the successor of Peter [882, 938]
YES, it's True.
Bible
-Peter had no Successor
The Bible is not an instruction book in Christianity. Nor is it a history book. It does not tell us what happened with most of the Apostles. History tells us. We know from witnesses to recorded history that St. Linus succeeded St. Peter, followed by St. Anacletus or Cletus, followed by St. Clement, and so on, in an unbroken chain until today Benedict XVI has the job. There have been 264 successors to St. Peter, including Benedict.
Catechism
4. The bishop, with Popes as their head, rules the universal Church [883, 894-896].
The Pope is head of the universal Church, the Bishops are united with him.
Bible
-Christ, the Head of the Body, Rules the Universal Churches (Colossians 1:18)
The pope is head of the universal Church (there is only one Church) on Earth. Christ rules from heaven.
Both are true. Christ remains the Head of the Church He founded, but when He ascended to heaven, He left Peter in charge of His Church on Earth. The Church is the Body of Christ -- He is the Head.
Catechism
5. God has Entrusted revelation to the Roman Catholic Bishops [81, 86]
Add the Pope with the Bishops. That is true.
Bible
- God has Entrusted revelation to the Saints (Jude 3).
The Saints are the leaders of the first Church -- the Apostles, succeeded by the Bishops to whom the Deposit of Faith was entrusted.
Catechism
6. The Magisterium is the authoritative teacher of the Church [85, 87]
True.
Bible
- The Holy Spirit is the authoritative teacher of the Church (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:27)
The Holy Spirit has to teach through a human agent -- He has no voice. He inspires the Bishops -- the leaders of the Catholic Church -- to teach and guards them from teaching error. The Bishops including the Pope collectively, as a body, are the Magisterium -- which means "teacher." The Magisterium is the teaching authority of the Church that Christ founded, vested in the Pope (means Papa, Father) and the Bishops who are united to him.
Catechism
8. The Pope is infallible interpreter of the Scripture [CCC#891]
Yes.
Bible
-God Alone is infallible (Numbers 23:19)
The Pope is infallible in limited circumstances -- when he teaches the entire universal (Catholic) Church in his capacity as head of the Church, and his teaching must be held by all members of the Church, he is prevented by the Holy Spirit from teaching error. So it is really the guidance of the Holy Spirit that's infallible. That's what infallibility means. The Church -- who wrote the NT -- interprets it without error.
SEE NEXT POST for continuation please...
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9. The Magisterium alone has the ability and the right to interpret the Scripture [CCC#85, 100, 939]
The Pope and the Bishops united with him equals the Magisterium, the teaching office of the Church.
Bible
-Every Christian, aided by the Holy Spirit, has Ability and the right to interpret the Scripture (Acts 17:11; 1 Corinthians 2:12-16)
Acts 17:11 states that the Bereans "examined the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so." This refers to the Bereans reading the Septuagint Old Testament to see if it pertained to Jesus -- if He really was the Messiah. They were not interpreting Scripture. And the New Testament didn't yet exist.
1 Corinthians 2:12-16 does not pertain to "interpreting scripture."
Catechism
10. Scripture is to be interpreted in the sense in which it has been define by the Magisterium [113, 119]
This says that Scripture is to be interpreted by the Holy Spirit granted to the Church. That's right. The Church wrote the New Testament. Who knows better what it means other than the Church who wrote it?
Bible
- Scripture must be Interpreted in the original sense intended by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 3:14 -16).
That's what the church use. heheh
Catechism
11. The Magisterium has the right to define truth found only obscurely or implicitly of the revelation [66, 8 ]
True. The Church wrote it, the Church interprets it.
Bible
- No One has right to go beyond what is written in Scripture (1 Corinthians 4:6, Proverbs 30:6)
1 Cor 4:6 doesn't says "in Scripture." Neither does Proverbs. This is a question that misrepresents the Scripture.
"Not to go beyond what is written" is one of the most difficult phrases in the entire Bible to interpret. Scholars are not sure what it means. The words "to go" are not in the Greek, but have been added by translators to help make sense of this verse, which is quite impossible to translate, much less interpret. For analysis of the Greek text and its many likely choice of meanings, I refer you to pages 138 to 162 of Not By Scripture Alone, edited by Robert Sungenis, Queenship Publishing, Santa Barbara, California, 1997.
It can't mean, as you state, "not to go beyond what is written in Scripture." First, it doesn't say that. If it did mean literally "not to go beyond what is written" [in scripture], we need to throw out the New Testament if that is the case. The New Testament "goes beyond" what is written in the Scriptures -- the Old Testament. The New Testament was added to the Old Testament and became "the Bible" at the end of the fourth Christian century.
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12. The Scripture and Tradition together are the Word of God [81, 85, 97, and 182]
That's true. The revelations of the New Testament were spoken before they were written. Scripture is the part of Sacred Apostolic Oral Tradition that got written down.
Bible
-Scripture is the Word of God (John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20, 21). Tradition is the Words of men (Mark 7:1-13)
There are two kinds of "tradition." One is human tradition; the other is the Sacred Oral Tradition of the Apostles. St. Paul tells us, "So stand firm, brethren, and hold fast to the traditions you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. That is precisely what the Catholic Church does.
You can't say what Scripture is without an "inspired" list of the books that belong in the Bible. Where is the God-given list of the inspired books? Where does the Bible list its contents?
Catechism
13. Scripture and the Tradition together are the Church’s Supreme rule of Faith [80, 82]
Yes, it's true.
-Bible
-Scripture is the Church’s only Rule of Faith (Mark 7:7-13, 2 Timothy 3:16, 17)
In Mark, Jesus is talking the Jewish tradition of Korban, as he explains, not the tradition He and His own Apostles taught. In Timothy, Paul is referring to the Greek Septuagint Old Testament (there was no New Testament until late in the 4th century), and it says Scripture (the OT) is useful -- not that it is the only rule of faith. And here's the amazing thing: Protestants reject the very scriptures Paul was writing about -- the Greek Septuagint OT.
The originator of this post said:
I do not have any religion but only a personal relation with Jesus. So do not give poison in the minds of many...
My REPLY:
You can't have a "personal relationship" with Jesus outside of His Church -- the Catholic Church. He and His Church are one. He is the Head, the Church is His Body. Your "relationship" is with a phantom Jesus that exists only in your mind. hahahah
Fr.ABE,
May the Lord God be with you and your blog always. Let's praise and exalt Jesus Christ forever.
THANK YOU SO MUCH BRO. MILESAWAYMAN. I LOVE YOUR EXPLANATIONS. VERY CLEAR AND PRECISE. GOD BLESS YOU TOO.
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