Wednesday, August 25, 2010

MGA AKTIBONG JEHOVAH WITNESSES NGA LANG BA ANG MALILIGTAS NA 144,000?

Paradise by Jacopo Tintoretto

Ak47CCCP1945 said...

Fr. Abe, sabi daw ng mga taga-Jehovah's Witnesses na ang 144,000 na miyembro nila ay maililigtas sa Apocalypse... Yung mga 144,000 ay mga miyembro ng Jehovah's Witnesses na aktibo sa mga activities nila sa simbahan at sila lng daw ang maililigtas at markahan ng sign of God in Heaven...

ano po ang masasabi mo dito?

totus tuus,
nico lopez

August 25, 2010 7:49 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

Dear Bro. Nico,

HA, HA, HA... NAKU, WALA NA SA KATINUAN ANG MGA IYAN. IMPOSIBLENG SILA ANG TINUTUKOY NG BOOK OF REVELATION KASI ANG 144,000 NA SINASABI AY MULA SA LIPI NI ISRAEL. IBIG SABIHIN MGA JUDIO SILA... MGA ISRAELITA:

Rev 7:4 At narinig ko ang bilang ng mga natatakan, na isang daan at apat na pu't apat na libo, na natatakan, sa bawa't angkan ng mga anak ni Israel:

SEE, THEY ARE FROM THE RACE OF ISRAEL. THESE ARE THE JEWISH SAINTS.

Rev 7:5 Sa angkan ni Juda ay labingdalawang libo ang tinatakan; Sa angkan ni Ruben ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Gad ay labingdalawang libo;

Rev 7:6 Sa angkan ni Aser ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Neftali ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Manases ay labingdalawang libo;

Rev 7:7 Sa angkan ni Simeon ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Levi ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Isacar ay labingdalawang libo;

Rev 7:8 Sa angkan ni Zabulon ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Jose ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Benjamin ay labingdalawang libo ang tinatakan.

ANG MGA JEHOVA WITNESSES AY HINDI MGA ISRAELITA KUNDI MGA HENTIL. YAN AY GALING SA UNITED STATES AT LUMAGANAP NG KONTI SA PILIPINAS. KAYA WAG NA SILANG MANGARAP NG GISING. SILA AY LASING SA KASINUNGALINGAN.

ISA PANG DAPAT MONG TIGNAN BRO. NICO AY ITO. ANG DISTINCTION NG MGA TRIBO NG ISRAEL AY HINDI NA MAKITA NGAYON. ANG MGA JUDIO MISMO NA NAGNANAIS ALAMIN KUNG SINO ANG NAGMULA SA LAHI NI LEVI MULA SA MGA MAMAMAYAN NG ISRAEL NGAYON UPANG MULI NILANG MABUO ANG TEMPLO AY HINDI NAGAWANG MAKILALA ANG TRIBONG PINAGMULAN NG BAWAT ISA. ANG KAPAL NAMAN NG MUKA NG MGA JEHOVAH WITNESSES NA IYAN KUNG KANILANG IPIPILIT NA SILA IYON. HA, HA, HA... NANGANGARAP SILA NG PASKO SA BUWAN NG AGOSTO. HA, HA, HA... SA PAGHULA PA NGA LANG NG ARAW NG PAGHUHUKOM ILANG BESES NA SILANG PUMALPAK TAPOS MAGDUDUNONG-DUNUNGAN SILA SA BILANG NG MALILIGTAS.

HIGIT SA LAHAT BRO. NICO ANG MGA JEHOVAH WITNESSES AY WALANG MGA TATAK. TAYONG MGA CATOLICO ANG MAY TATAK NG KRUS SA NOO.

August 25, 2010 10:47 PM

2 comments:

  1. I44, 000 OF REVELATION 7: 4-8. AND JEHOVAHS WITNESSES

    Could this not be a reference to literal, fleshly Israel? No, for Revelation 7:4-8 diverges from the usual tribal listing. (Numbers 1:17, 47) Obviously, the listing here is not for the purpose of identifying fleshly Jews by their tribes but to show a similar organizational structure for spiritual Israel. This is balanced. There are to be exactly 144,000 members of this new nation—12,000 from each of 12 tribes. No tribe in this Israel of God is exclusively royal or priestly. The whole nation is to rule as kings, and the whole nation is to serve as priests.—Galatians 6:16; Revelation 20:4, 6.

    Are the 144,000 only natural Jews?
    Rev. 7:4-8: “I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel: . . . Judah . . . Reuben . . . Gad . . . Asher . . . Naphtali . . . Manasseh . . . Simeon . . . Levi . . . Issachar . . . Zebulun . . . Joseph . . . Benjamin.” (These cannot be the tribes of natural Israel because there never was a tribe of Joseph, the tribes of Ephraim and Dan are not included in the list here, and the Levites were set aside for service in connection with the temple but were not reckoned as one of the 12 tribes. See Numbers 1:4-16.)
    Rom. 2:28, 29: “He is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code.”
    Gal. 3:26-29: “You are all, in fact, sons of God through your faith in Christ Jesus. . . . There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one person in union with Christ Jesus. Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham’s seed, heirs with reference to a promise.”

    144,000 (SPIRITUAL ISRAEL)
    Jehovah, having ‘fully reconciled both peoples [Jews and non-Jews] to himself in one body’ through Christ, could hardly be expected to make a division between the two groups now by separating fleshly Jews from Gentiles in the vision given to John. (Eph 2:11-21; Ac 15:7-9) This is particularly evident when the divine principle stated by Paul is taken into account. The apostle wrote: “He is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit.” (Ro 2:28, 29) Why, too, would there be no mention of any ‘sealing’ of the Gentile Christians in this divine vision? And why would not the Gentile Christians be able to master the new song sung by the 144,000? (Re 14:3) It thus seems clear that the 144,000 sealed ones are of spiritual Israel, not fleshly Israel—hence include both Jewish and Gentile Christians.—Ga 6:16.

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  2. SYMBOLIC MARKED IN THEIR FOREHEADS (not a cross)
    The 144,000 have no part with the worshippers of the wild beast, who are marked with the symbolic number 666. (Revelation 13:15-18) In contrast, these loyal ones have the name of God and of the Lamb written on their foreheads. No doubt John, a Jew, saw God’s name in Hebrew lettering, יהוה. In having the name of Jesus’ Father symbolically written on their foreheads, these sealed ones make known to all that they are Jehovah’s witnesses, His slaves. (Revelation 3:12) Their having Jesus’ name also displayed on their foreheads indicates that they acknowledge being owned by him. He is their betrothed “husband,” and they are his prospective “bride,” “a new creation” serving God with heavenly life in view. (Ephesians 5:22-24; Revelation 21:2, 9; 2 Corinthians 5:17) Their intimate relationship with Jehovah and Jesus Christ affects all their thoughts and actions.


    144,000 symbolic” New Jerusalem”
    Most appropriately, the 12 symbolic foundation stones of the New Jerusalem, bearing the names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb, are precious stones. (Re 21:14, 19, 20) The New Jerusalem described in Revelation is made up of the 144,000 who are betrothed to the bridegroom. The “heavenly Jerusalem” mentioned at Hebrews 12:22 comprises 144,001, this “one” being the bridegroom King. It is the city with real foundations that Abraham awaited. (Heb 11:10) Thus, the Bible books of Hebrews and Revelation show a close identity between the “heavenly Jerusalem” and the New Jerusalem.

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