Sunday, August 1, 2010

NEW ROUND OF EXCHANGES WITH BORN-AGAIN BAPTISTS Part 4

Ananias Restoring the Sight of St. Paul through the Sacrament of Baptism

Bryan Bustamante said...

Answer first my questions above.

Is Catholicism biblical? Proof please..

Acts 11: 26
Stated there that the disciples where called Christians (NOT Catholics) the first true church.

Romans only adopted the Christianity, coming up with a different perspective and doctrine which is the Catholicism.

DID THE APOSTLES TEACH SOLA SCRIPTURA? WHERE?

-my answer:

(Galatians 1: 11-12)
Paul preached to us that the teaching he delivers to us is not something that man made up or that he made it up. It is through the revelation of Christ to himself.

(Galatians 1: 9)
"If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!"

Paul states there that there is no other gospel than the scriptures in the bible. NONE.

Also, read (2 Peter 1: 20-21)

The apostles told us that the scriptures are not on their own interpretation. Literally, we must entrust ourselves to the scriptures written on the bible. There is no other doctrines from what is preached.

This all sums up to Sola Scriptura. Scriture alone. No other doctrines.

Again, read my earlier post. Which contains questions.

June 26, 2010 4:54 PM

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Answer first my questions above.]

I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS. WHILE MY QUESTIONS YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING. GET OUT OF THE DARK AND PUT LIGHT TO YOUR IDENTITY AND YOUR FAITH. DON'T BE AFRAID. YOU CAN STILL BE SAVED BY THE POWER OF GOD FROM THE DEMONIC FELLOWSHIP YOU ARE IN WHICH IS A RECENT INVENTION BY YOUR PASTOR. HAVE PITY ON YOUR SOUL.

[Is Catholicism biblical? Proof please..]

OF COURSE IT IS BIBLICAL. IT IS THE ONE TRUE CHURCH FOUNDED BY JESUS.

[Acts 11: 26 Stated there that the disciples where called Christians (NOT Catholics) the first true church.]

THE MORE IT PROVES THAT WE ARE THE TRUE CHURCH. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH EXISTED PRIOR TO ANY OTHER CHRISTIAN GROUP IN THE PLANET. WE ARE THE OLDEST AND THE FIRST CHRISTIAN RELIGION. NOT THE BORN AGAIN, NOT THE BAPTISTS, NOT THE PROTESTANTS, NOT THE EVANGELICALS. SO DREAM ON. BEFORE YOU EXISTED ON THIS EARTH AS DUNGHILL COVERED WITH SNOW WE ARE ALREADY CHRISTIANS... WHAT ARE YOU? DUNGHILLS PRETENDING TO BE SNOW. HA, HA, HA...

AND TAKE NOTE, THAT ARGUMENT ALSO APPLIES TO YOU. THE EARLY FOLLOWERS OF JESUS WERE CALLED CHRISTIANS NOT BAPTISTS, NOT BORN AGAIN, NOT PENTECOSTALS... HA, HA, HA...

[Romans only adopted the Christianity, coming up with a different perspective and doctrine which is the Catholicism.]

WHERE IS THAT IN THE BIBLE? HA, HA, HA... THIS IS WHAT ST. PAUL AND THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE ROMAN CHRISTIANS WHICH IS CATHOLICISM:

Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

HA, HA, HA... THE ROMAN CHRISTIANS ARE BELOVED OF GOD AND WE ARE CALLED SAINTS. HERE'S ANOTHER:

Rom 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

SO ST. PAUL IS THANKFUL TO GOD FOR US. BUT YOU... HERETIC THAT YOU ARE... YOU ARE NOT THANKFUL TO GOD FOR US ROMAN CHRISTIANS. YOU ARE EVEN LAMBASTING AND INSULTING US TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF YOUR HERETICAL SECTS RECENTLY INVENTED BY NON APOSTLES. SHAME ON YOU...

THE FAITH OF THE ROMAN CHURCH IS HERALDED OVER ALL THE WORLD. OF COURSE, WE ARE MORE FAMOUS AND KNOWN THAN YOURS. YOUR SO-CALLED FELLOWSHIPS ARE NOTHING IN COMPARISON WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HA, HA, HA...

DID THE APOSTLES TEACH SOLA SCRIPTURA? WHERE?

[-my answer: (Galatians 1: 11-12) Paul preached to us that the teaching he delivers to us is not something that man made up or that he made it up. It is through the revelation of Christ to himself.]

WHERE IS THE BIBLE ALONE THERE? WHERE IS SOLA SCRIPTURA THERE? WHERE IS THE BIBLE AND WHERE IS THE ALONE? HA, HA, HA... IT SPEAKS OF REVELATION OF CHRIST NOT OF THE BIBLE. HA, HA, HA... DREAM ON. MUCH MORE, SOLA SCRIPTURA AND SOLA FIDE ARE INVENTED BY MAN... MARTIN LUTHER. HA, HA, HA...

[(Galatians 1: 9) "If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!"]

HA, HA, HA... IT BOOMERANGED ON YOU. SOLA SCRIPTURA IS INVENTED BY MARTIN LUTHER. THAT IS WHY IT IS SATANIC, DEMONIC IN ORIGIN. IT IS NOT THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST BUT THE GOSPEL OF MARTIN LUTHER. HA, HA, HA... THE SOLA SCRIPTURA AND SOLA FIDE ARE EXAMPLES OF THE OTHER GOSPEL NOT COMING FROM THE APOSTLES.

THIS TEXT DESTROYS SOLA SCRIPTURA AND SOLA FIDE. HA, HA, HA...

[Paul states there that there is no other gospel than the scriptures in the bible. NONE.]

SOLA SCRIPTURA IS NOT IN THE GOSPEL SO IT IS ANOTHER GOSPEL. WHOSE GOSPEL IS IT? THE GOSPEL OF MARTIN LUTHER. THAT IS SATANIC. FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR SOUL REJECT THE SOLA SCRIPTURA OF MARTIN LUTHER AND INSTEAD BE FAITHFUL TO THE GOSPEL OF JESUS WHO NEVER TAUGHT SOLA SCRIPTURA AND SOLA FIDE.

[Also, read (2 Peter 1: 20-21) The apostles told us that the scriptures are not on their own interpretation. Literally, we must entrust ourselves to the scriptures written on the bible. There is no other doctrines from what is preached.]

THAT IS WHY SOLA SCRIPTURA IS SATANIC AND HERETICAL. SOLA SCRIPTURA IS PRACTICALLY: "ME AND THE BIBLE ALONE". SOLA SCRIPTURA RELIES ONLY ON THE PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF THE INDIVIDUALS. IT IS HERETICAL. REFORM YOUR DOCTRINE. ABANDON THE FAITH OF THE HERETICS.

[This all sums up to Sola Scriptura. Scriture alone. No other doctrines.]

WRONG. NONE OF THE TEXTS SPEAKS OF SOLA SCRIPTURA. RATHER IT SPEAKS OF THE TRUTH ENTRUSTED BY CHRIST TO HIS APOSTLES WHICH ARE ORAL TEACHINGS NOT THE PUBLISHED BOOK. SOLA SCRIPTURA IS A RECENTLY INVENTED TEACHING. IT IS THE GOSPEL OF MARTIN LUTHER. IT IS HERETICAL, SATANIC IN ORIGIN.

[Again, read my earlier post. Which contains questions.]

YOUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. AGAIN, WHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND SOLA SCRIPTURA?

WHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND SOLA FIDE?

WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THE RAPTURE?

WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THE ONCE SAVED WILL ALWAYS BE SAVED?

WHERE IN THE BIBLE CAN YOU FIND THAT SALVATION IS A ONE TIME EVENT?

CHAPTERS AND VERSES PLEASE.

June 26, 2010 9:47 PM

Bryan Bustamante said...

my facebook profile.

A TRUE AND GENUINE CHRISTIAN MUST PROCLAIM HIS FAITH. YOU ARE HIDING YOUR FAITH. SHAME ON YOU.

-my answer:

Does salvation recquires a man to boast his faith? To proclaim it to the whole world? Just for the sake of saying that he has faith?

Ang hirap mgdebate dito. It needs approval pa and other stuff para makita mga posts. Why not tackle this matter on facebook? It is easier and more comfortable if we tackle this there.. We'll make up a discussion board there.

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

A TRUE AND GENUINE CHRISTIAN MUST PROCLAIM HIS FAITH. YOU ARE HIDING YOUR FAITH. SHAME ON YOU.

-my answer:

[Does salvation recquires a man to boast his faith?]

NOT BOASTING DOES NOT MEAN HIDING IT. JESUS DID NOT HIDE HIS TEACHING SO IF I WILL FOLLOW YOUR LOGIC JESUS BOATED HIS FAITH.

THE HOLY APOSTLES DIDN'T HIDE THEIR IDENTITY AND FAITH, SO FOR YOU THEY BOASTED THEIR FAITH.

I FIND YOUR REASONING ILLOGICAL AND UNREASONABLE. YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST MAKING AN ALIBI.

[To proclaim it to the whole world? Just for the sake of saying that he has faith?]

TO OBEY THE COMMAND OF JESUS TO SHOUT IT ON THE HOUSETOPS. TO OBEY THE WILL OF JESUS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO EVERY NATIONS.

FROM WHOM DID YOU GET THE COMMAND TO HIDE YOUR FAITH? FOR SURE ITS NOT FROM JESUS. WHO IS THE OPPOSITE OF JESUS? HA, HA, HA... YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE. IF YOU WANT A CLUE IT IS... THE EVIL ONE.

Well thank you for showing me your facebook. I LIKE YOUR GUITAR. IS THAT THE SAME GUITAR YOU ARE USING IN YOUR DISCO-LIKE PRAYER WORSHIPS? ARE YOU THE GUITARIST THERE?

[Ang hirap mgdebate dito.]

BAKIT MAHIRAP E LIBRE NAMAN ITO. WALANG TAX DITO AT WALA RING TITHING. HE, HE, HE...

[It needs approval pa and other stuff para makita mga posts.]

DATI WALA ITONG APPROVAL AUTOMATIC POSTING. I DECIDED TO PUT IT ON KASI YOUR KINDS HURLED ME WITH SO MANY CURSES WHICH ARE PERSONAL IN NATURE. AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN OUR DOCTRINAL DISCUSSIONS THEN THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY. YOUR POSTS WILL BE APPROVED.

[Why not tackle this matter on facebook?]

YOU ENTERED A BLOG BOY. YOU DIDN'T ENTER A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT. SO WHAT WILL YOU EXPECT. IF YOU WANT A FACEBOOK DEBATE GO TO FACEBOOK. IF YOU WANT A BLOG DEBATE SO HERE YOU ARE.

I AM ALREADY BUSY FOR THIS BLOG. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME FOR FACEBOOK. I KEEP MY FACEBOOK EXCLUSIVELY FOR MY FRIENDS AND FOR NON DEBATE TOPICS.

[It is easier and more comfortable if we tackle this there.. We'll make up a discussion board there.]

AS THE OWNER OF THIS BLOG MY OBLIGATION IS ON THIS BLOG. I CANNOT ABANDON THE LARGE NUMBER OF READERS WHO FOLLOW THIS BLOG. THERE ARE MANY OTHER CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS IN THE FACEBOOK. JUST TRY THE: 100% Katolikong Pinoy IN FACEBOOK. THEY WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY.

June 26, 2010 10:06 PM

22 comments:

  1. To Mr. Bustamante, you may go to this facebook account http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2476402047 Mr. John Martignoni would be more willing to have a debate with you in facebook.

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  2. Ha, ha, ha... Bro. Tito that Ryan Bustamante will be like a cat debating a full grown Tiger in John Martignoni. Even James White refuses to debate John Martignoni.

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  3. Fr. Abe,
    It is obvious that Ryan is new in apologetics. He is just polishing his wares.
    I admire people who have zeal in their faith. However, they have to be honest enough and reflect on the issues presented.
    His Sola Scriptura is dead in the water. INC, ADD and thousands of denominations all say that it is the Bible Alone. However, they themselves do not agree on what the Bible says.

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  4. Yes, Brother. But this exchanges is not yet over. Later a more experienced pastor will take over the arguments.

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  5. Your Karl Keating is afraid to debate James White.

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  6. [[AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN OUR DOCTRINAL DISCUSSIONS THEN THERE IS NOTHING TO WORRY. YOUR POSTS WILL BE APPROVED. ]]

    palusot mo lang yan. way mo yan na kapag di ka makatutol ay di mo iaapprove.

    style mo bulok PADRE DAMASO.

    Si Cenon walang pakialam dyan. kasi matapang yun kesa sa iyo.

    di ka marunong tumanggap ng criticism kasi asar talo ka.

    talo ka pa ni Cenon, maginoo na sa debate ay marunong pang tumanggap ng tuligsa.

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  7. Karl Keating is no longer debating now because his organization CATHOLIC ANSWERS [www.catholic.com] has grown so much and he has to take good care of it. It has a publication, radio programs, apologetics magazine, the biggest apologetics forum in the world and debates.

    James White has been debated by more than 15 Catholic Apologists. Majority of them were former Protestant Ministers, now Catholic Debaters. James White is now aging but he is still alone in debates. Every year we have brilliant debaters who are former Born Again. Ha, ha, ha... It means we are converting more from your side.

    James White was defeated by Dr. Robert Sungenis of Catholic Apologetics International 5 times.

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  8. IGNORANT PROTESTANT! JAMES WHITE HAS BEEN DESTROYED TWICE!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJskrQq3dXM

    LOL

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  9. HA, HA, HA... EXCUSE ME I AM NOT PADRE DAMASO. HE IS SPANISH. IM A FILIPINO. YOU CAN CALL ME PADRE FLORENTINO. HA, HA, HA...

    OR IF YOU PREFER, PADRE BURGOS OF GOMBURZA. HA, HA, HA...

    ALL COMMENTS ARE POSTED EXCEPT WHEN THERE ARE CURSES AND THERE IS VALID REASONS TO DISAPPROVE. VERY FEW ARE DISAPPROVED. THAT IS WHY THERE ARE SO MANY COMMENTS HERE.

    NOW, I ACCEPT THAT BRO. CENON IS BETTER THAN ME. YES THAT IS TRUE. I ALSO ACCEPT THAT HE IS MORE COURAGEOUS THAN ME. THATS OK.

    BUT SURELY, YOU ARE A COWARD INCOMPARISON TO ME BECAUSE YOU ARE HIDING LIKE THE DEVIL. YOU ARE AS COURAGEOUS AS OSAMA BIN LADEN AND THE TERRORISTS.

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  10. JAMES WHITE HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS MANY TIMES.

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  11. Magandang araw po Padre Abe. Bale mayroon po akong mga ibabahaging ilan pa po sa mga satanikong doktrina ni Eliseo Soriano at ang mga diumano'y mga batayan ng mga ito sa Biblia:

    1.Ang Diyo daw po ay may puwit, matris at nanganganak.

    a.Awit 94:9

    "Siyang lumikha ng pakinig, hindi ba siya makakarinig? Siyang lumikha ng mata, hindi ba siya makakakita?"

    -Ang reasoning po diyan ni Soriano na kesyo daw po lumikha ang Diyos ng mga bahagi ng katawan ng tao eh Siya din daw po eh mayroon din noon at may kakayahan din daw po Siyang manganak.

    2.Hindi raw po yung tinapay at alak na ginagamit sa misa ang Katawan at Dugo ng Panginoon kundi ang salita daw po Niya:

    a.Marcos 7:19

    "sapagkat hindi naman iyon pumapasok sa kanyang puso, kundi sa tiyan, at pagkatapos ay idinudumi."

    b.Juan 6:27

    "Huwag ang pagkaing nasisira ang inyong pagsikapang kamtan, kundi ang pagkaing hindi nasisira at nagbibigay ng buhay na walang hanggan."

    c.Juan 6:68

    "Sumagot si Simon Pedro, Panginoon, kanino pa po kami pupunta? Nasa inyo ang mga salitang nagbibigay ng buhay na walang hanggan".

    -Sa una pong batayan, kung ang ostiya daw po ang katawan ng Panginon, lalabas lang daw po iyon sa katawan sa pamamagitan ng dumi. Sa ikalawa naman daw pong batayan, nasisira daw po ang ostiya kaya hindi raw ito ang katawan ng Panginoon. At sa ikatlong batayan naman daw po, ang dapat salita daw po ng Panginoon yung tiutukoy na tinapay na nagbibigay buhay.

    3.Ang Diyos daw po mayroong hindi alam:

    Jeremias 32:35

    "At kanilang itinayo ang matataas na dako ni Baal sa libis ng anak ni Hinom, upang ihandog ang kanilang mga anak na lalaki at babae kay Molec, na hindi ko iniutos sa kanila o pumasok man sa aking pag-iisip, na kanilang gawin ang kasuklamsuklam na ito na naging sanhi ng pagkakasala ng Juda."

    -Sabi naman daw po ni Soriano, kung alam daw po ng Diyos ang lahat ng bagay eh bakit daw po Niya ito sasabihin?

    4.Marami daw tunay na diyos:

    Juan 10:34

    "Tumugon si Jesus, Hindi ba nasusulat sa inyong Kautusan, Sinabi ko, mga diyos kayo?"

    -At ayon na rin po kay Soriano, dapat daw pong maging diyos ang mga tao para maligtas.

    Sana po ay masagot po ninyo itong mga pamimilipit ni Soriano sa mga Salita ng Diyos para mabawasan na po ang mga taong inililigaw niya. Salamat po at mabuhay ang Santa Iglesya.

    -RCCKnight

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  12. O thank you RCCKnight. Very nice. I will post this on the main Wall later.

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  13. Karagdagan pa po sa mga satanikong doktrina ni Eli Soriano:

    5. Si Moises daw, ginawang tunay na diyos ng Diyos:

    Exodus 7:1

    "At sinabi ng Panginoon kay Moises, Tingnan mo, ginawa kitang dios kay Faraon: at si Aaron na iyong kapatid ay magiging iyong propeta"

    -Pero kapag tatanungin naman sila kung bait hindi nila sinasamba si Moises, sabi nila hindi naman daw dapat sambahin.

    6.Yun daw tumakas nung gabing darakpin ang Panginoon, yung mga humuhuli daw po.

    7.Yun daw pong lalaking hubo't hubad sa halamanan, si Marcos daw po.

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  14. 1.Ang Diyo daw po ay may puwit, matris at nanganganak.

    a.Awit 94:9

    "Siyang lumikha ng pakinig, hindi ba siya makakarinig? Siyang lumikha ng mata, hindi ba siya makakakita?"

    -Ang reasoning po diyan ni Soriano na kesyo daw po lumikha ang Diyos ng mga bahagi ng katawan ng tao eh Siya din daw po eh mayroon din noon at may kakayahan din daw po Siyang manganak.

    ANG TINUTUKOY NG TALATA ANG DIOS AY NAKAKARINIG AT NAKAKAKITA DAHIL SIYA ANG MAY LIKHA NG PANDINIG AT PANGKITA. SUBALIT WALANG SINASABI SA TALATA NA ANG DIOS AY MAY MATA, MAY TENGA AT MAY PUWIT.

    DIYAN NATIN MAKIKITA NA LUMALAGPAS SA BIBLIA SI MAMA ELI THE HIDING SODOMITE. HA, HA, HA... PINIPILIPIT NIYA ANG SALITA NG DIOS PARA SA KANYANG SARILING INTERPRETASYON.

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  15. 2.Hindi raw po yung tinapay at alak na ginagamit sa misa ang Katawan at Dugo ng Panginoon kundi ang salita daw po Niya:

    a.Marcos 7:19

    "sapagkat hindi naman iyon pumapasok sa kanyang puso, kundi sa tiyan, at pagkatapos ay idinudumi."

    HA, HA, HA... BALIW TALAGA ANG MATANDANG HUKLUBAN NA IYAN. HA, HA, HA...

    YANG QUOTATION NYA AY HINDI NAMAN YAN TUNGGKOL SA LAST SUPPER NA SIYANG PINAGMULAN NG BANAL NA MISA. ANG MGA TALATANG PINAGMULAN NG BANAL NA MISA KUNG SAAN IDINETALYE ANG HULING HAPUNAN NG PANGINOON AY ITO:

    Mateo 26:26-28 "At samantalang sila'y nagsisikain, ay dumampot si Jesus ng TINAPAY, at pinagpala, at pinagputolputol; at ibinigay sa mga alagad, at sinabi, Kunin ninyo, kanin ninyo; ito ang aking katawan. At dumampot siya ng isang saro, at nagpasalamat, at ibinigay sa kanila, na nagsasabi, Magsiinom kayong lahat diyan; Sapagka't ito ang aking dugo ng tipan, na nabubuhos dahil sa marami, sa ikapagpapatawad ng mga kasalanan."

    Mark 14:22-24 "At samantalang sila'y nagsisikain, ay dumampot siya ng TINAPAY, at nang kaniyang mapagpala, ay kaniyang pinagputolputol, at ibinigay sa kanila, at sinabi, Inyong kunin: ito ang aking katawan. At siya'y dumampot ng isang saro, at nang siya'y makapagpasalamat, ay ibinigay niya sa kanila: at doo'y nagsiinom silang lahat. At sinabi niya sa kanila, Ito'y ang aking dugo ng tipan, na nabubuhos dahil sa marami."

    Lukas 22:14 At nang dumating ang oras, ay naupo siya, at ang mga apostol ay kasalo niya.

    Lukas 22:17 At siya'y tumanggap ng isang saro, at nang siya'y makapagpasalamat, ay sinabi niya, Kunin ninyo ito, at inyong pagbahabahaginin:

    Lukas 22:18 Sapagka't sinasabi ko sa inyo, na hindi na ako iinom mula ngayon ng BUNGA NG UBAS, hanggang sa dumating ang kaharian ng Dios.

    SEE, BUNGA NG UBAS... IN ENGLISH NAMAN NG KING JAMES VERSION: "Fruit of the Wine". KAYA ANG LAMAN NG SARO AY ALAK NA MULA SA KATAS NG UBAS.

    Lukas 22:19 At siya'y dumampot ng TINAPAY, at nang siya'y makapagpasalamat, ay kaniyang pinagputolputol, at ibinigay sa kanila, na sinasabi, Ito'y aking katawan, na ibinibigay dahil sa inyo: GAWAIN NINYO ITO sa pagaalaala sa akin.

    MALINAW PA SA CRISTAL NA TINAPAY ANG DINAMPOT NG PANGINOONG JESUS, PINAGPIRAPIRASO AT PINAKAIN SA KANYANG MGA ALAGAD. YAN AY TINAPAY NA WALANG LEBADURA AYON SA PASSOVER RULE NG MGA JUDIO NA TINURAN NI SAN LUCAS AT NG MGA EBANGHELISTA SA UMPISA NG MGA KABANATA BAGO IPAHAYAG ANG LAST SUPPER:

    Lukas 22:1 Malapit na nga ang pista ng mga tinapay na walang lebadura, na tinatawag na Paskua.

    AT ANG SARO AY NAGLALAMAN NG KATAS NG UBAS... ALAK NA MULA SA KATAS NG UBAS.

    SUBALIT MAKAPAL ANG MUKA NI MAMA ELI. DINE DENY NYA ANG TINAPAY AT ALAK SUBALIT ANG GINAGAMIT NILA SA PAGSAMBA AY "MUNGGO".

    KUNG HINDI TINAPAY AT ALAK BAKIT PINALITAN NIYA NG MUNGGO? SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA ANG TINAPAY AT ALAK NA SIYANG GINAMIT NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO AY PALITAN NG MUNGGO? HA, HA, HA...

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  16. b.Juan 6:27

    "Huwag ang pagkaing nasisira ang inyong pagsikapang kamtan, kundi ang pagkaing hindi nasisira at nagbibigay ng buhay na walang hanggan."

    c.Juan 6:68

    "Sumagot si Simon Pedro, Panginoon, kanino pa po kami pupunta? Nasa inyo ang mga salitang nagbibigay ng buhay na walang hanggan".

    -Sa una pong batayan, kung ang ostiya daw po ang katawan ng Panginon, lalabas lang daw po iyon sa katawan sa pamamagitan ng dumi. Sa ikalawa naman daw pong batayan, nasisira daw po ang ostiya kaya hindi raw ito ang katawan ng Panginoon. At sa ikatlong batayan naman daw po, ang dapat salita daw po ng Panginoon yung tiutukoy na tinapay na nagbibigay buhay.

    MABABAW NA NAMAN SI MAMA ELI. HE, HE, HE...

    HINDI NAMAN ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH ANG NAGTURO NA ANG TINAPAY NA BINASBASAN AY NAGIGING KATAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESUS KUNDI ANG PANGINOONG JESUS MISMO. ITO ANG DECLARASYON NI SAN PABLO:

    1 Corinto 11:23 Sapagka't tinanggap ko sa Panginoon ang ibinibigay ko naman sa inyo; na ang Panginoong Jesus nang gabing siya'y ipagkanulo ay dumampot ng tinapay;

    1 Corinto 11:24 At nang siya'y makapagpasalamat, ay kaniyang pinagputolputol, at sinabi, Ito'y aking katawan na pinagputolputol dahil sa inyo: gawin ninyo ito sa pagaalaala sa akin.

    TIGNAN MONG MABUTI. SA VERSE 23 ANG DINAMPOT NG PANGINOON AY 'TINAPAY'. SUBALIT PAGKATAPOS ITONG MAIPAGPASALAMAT... [In Greek: 'Eucharistesas' from 'Eucharisteo' that is why we call it HOLY EUCHARIST] HINDI NA TINAPAY ANG TINAWAG NI LORD KUNDI 'ITO ANG AKING KATAWAN'... 'THIS IS MY BODY'.

    ANG ANYO AT ELEMENTO NG TINAPAY AY NAROON PARIN KASI NAPAGPUTOL PUTOL AT NAKAKAIN. SUBALIT ANG SUBSTANSTIA NITO AY HINDI NA TINAPAY KUNDI ANG KATAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO.

    KUNG IAAPLY ANG JUAN 6:27 ANG ELEMENTO NG TINAPAY O ANG 'ACCIDENTS' NITO AY NASISIRA AT INILALABAS NG KATAWAN. SUBALIT ANG 'SUBSTANTIA' NITO NA WALANG IBA KUNDI ANG KATAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO AY HINDE. KAYA NGA ANG THEOLOGICAL TERM NATIN NYAN IN OUR DOGMA AY 'TRANSUBSTANTIATION'. ANG PAGPAPALIT NG SUBSTANTIA NG TINAPAY SA PAGIGING KATAWAN NG PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO.

    BAKIT NAKITA BA NI MAMA ELI ANG MGA INILALABAS NATING MGA CATOLICO PARA MASAMI NYA KUNG ANO ANG INILALABAS NATIN O HINDE?

    HINGGIL SA SINABI NI SAN PEDRO SA JOHN 6:68. YON AY TUGMANG TUGMA SA ATING MGA CATOLICO. SINABI NI JESUS NA: "ITO ANG AKING KATAWAN" KAYA NAMAN PINAPANIWALAAN NATIN ITO. SI MAMA ELI SINABI NA NGA NI CRISTO NA 'ITO ANG AKING KATAWAN' ANG SA KANYA E: "HINDI TUTUO YAN TINAPAY LANG YAN." HA, HA, HA...

    SINO NGAYON ANG SUMUSUNOD SA SALITANG NAGBIBIGAY BUHAY? TAYONG MGA CATOLICO.

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  17. [3.Ang Diyos daw po mayroong hindi alam:

    Jeremias 32:35

    "At kanilang itinayo ang matataas na dako ni Baal sa libis ng anak ni Hinom, upang ihandog ang kanilang mga anak na lalaki at babae kay Molec, na hindi ko iniutos sa kanila o pumasok man sa aking pag-iisip, na kanilang gawin ang kasuklamsuklam na ito na naging sanhi ng pagkakasala ng Juda."

    -Sabi naman daw po ni Soriano, kung alam daw po ng Diyos ang lahat ng bagay eh bakit daw po Niya ito sasabihin?]

    HA, HA, HA... SI MAMA ELI ANG MANGMANG. KASI KULANG SA PINAG-ARALAN. KAYA NAMAN ANG KAKITIRAN NG UTAK NIYA AY IBINIBINTANG SA DIOS.

    HINDI SINABI NG BIBLIA NA HINDI ALAM NG DIOS. SA KATUNAYAN ALAM NGA NG DIOS KASI PINAGAGALITAN NGA SILA E.

    ANG DIOS AY GUMAMIT LAMANG NG HUMAN EXPRESSIONS PARA IPAHAYAG ANG KANYANG MATINDING GALIT SA PAGTATAKSIL NG MGA TAO.

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  18. [4.Marami daw tunay na diyos:

    Juan 10:34

    "Tumugon si Jesus, Hindi ba nasusulat sa inyong Kautusan, Sinabi ko, mga diyos kayo?"

    -At ayon na rin po kay Soriano, dapat daw pong maging diyos ang mga tao para maligtas.]

    MAMA ELI IS REALLY OUT OF HIS MIND AND REALLY LACKING IN BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE SACRED SCRIPTURES.

    THE REAL BIBLE SCHOLARS FROM BOTH CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANT GROUPS ARE UNANIMOUS THAT THE STATEMENT 'You are gods' REFERS NOT ON THE NATURE OF THESE MEN AS EQUAL TO GOD OR DIVINE IN NATURE BUT RATHER TO THEIR FUNCTIONS AS REPRESENTATIVES OF GOD EITHER AS HIS JUDGES OR HIS MINISTERS:

    Ver. 34.—Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your 1aw (Ps 82:6), I said, Ye are gods? The word in Hebrew is plural. God is called Elohim, as ruling and governing the world, and as the judge and punisher of evil-doing. Whence angels and judges who share this power are called gods, not by nature or by hypostatical union (as Christ), but by participating in the Divine judgments (see Ex. vii. 1, xxii. 28; Psa_8:6, in the Hebrew Elohim). But there, as S. Hilary observes (Lib. vii. de Trinit.), the word Elohim is limited by the context, so as to make it clear that the word does not signify God, but angels or judges. And so in Ps. lxxxii., "God standeth in the congregation of princes. He is the judge among gods." The gods who are judged are men or angels, He who judges them is the One True God. "Just as Christ here," says S. Augustine, "judges as God the Pharisees and rulers of the Jews, who were gods, so to speak, upon earth." On this account He quotes this psalm which is in Hebrew Elohim, judges. Elohim, the highest of all, judges the earthly rulers who are under Him. This is supported by the Chaldee Targum, which explains, "Ye are gods, and are all the children of the Highest;" "ye are the angels of the high God." And that which is properly said of angels is extended to all Israelites and the faithful, for they are the sons of God. But when the word "Elohim" is used "absolutely" (without limitation) it signifies the One and True God.
    Christ therefore, instead of overthrowing the opinion of the Jews, rather confirms it.
    [cf. THE GREAT BIBLICAL COMMENTARY BY CORNELIUS LAPIDE]

    34–36. Is it not written in your law—in Ps 82:6, respecting judges or magistrates.
    Ye are gods—being the official representatives and commissioned agents of God.
    [Jamieson, Robert ; Fausset, A. R. ; Fausset, A. R. ; Brown, David ; Brown, David: A Commentary, Critical and Explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments. Oak Harbor, WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997, S. Jn 10:34]

    10:34. Jesus’ response to their objection requires a bit of insight into the methods of argument common in Rabbinic discussions. He first directed them to the Old Testament: in your Law. Normally “the Law” refers to the first five books. But here it means all the Old Testament, for Jesus quoted from the Psalms. It was “your” Law in the sense that they gloried in their possession of it, and also in the sense that they should submit to its authority over them. Psalm 82 speaks of God as the true Judge (Ps. 82:1, 8) and of men, appointed as judges, who were failing to provide true judgment for God (Ps. 82:2-7). “Gods” in Psalm 82:1, 6 refers to these human judges. In this sense, God said to the Jews, You are gods. In no way does this speak of a divine nature in man.

    [Walvoord, John F. ; Zuck, Roy B. ; Dallas Theological Seminary: The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures. Wheaton, IL : Victor Books, 1983-c1985, S. 2:312]

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  19. [Karagdagan pa po sa mga satanikong doktrina ni Eli Soriano:

    5. Si Moises daw, ginawang tunay na diyos ng Diyos:

    Exodus 7:1

    "At sinabi ng Panginoon kay Moises, Tingnan mo, ginawa kitang dios kay Faraon: at si Aaron na iyong kapatid ay magiging iyong propeta"

    -Pero kapag tatanungin naman sila kung bait hindi nila sinasamba si Moises, sabi nila hindi naman daw dapat sambahin.]

    KATULAD NG JOHN 10:34 ANG IBIG SABIHIN LANG NYAN AY GINAGAWA NG DIOS NA REPRESENTANTE NIYA SI MOISES. SI MOISES ANG MAGSASALITA NG MENSAHE NG DIOS SA PARAON AT SIYA RIN ANG MAGSASAGAWAN NG MGA MILAGRO SA HARAPAN NG PARAON BILANG KINATAWAN NG DIOS.

    MULI, ITO AY SINUSUPORTAHAN NG MGA BIBLE SCHOLARS AND EXPERTS FROM BOTH CATHOLIC AND PROTESTANTS:

    Ex 7:1–25. Second Interview with Pharaoh.
    1. the Lord said unto Moses—He is here encouraged to wait again on the king—not, however, as formerly, in the attitude of a humble suppliant, but now armed with credentials as God’s ambassador, and to make his demand in a tone and manner which no earthly monarch or court ever witnessed.
    I have made thee a god—“made,” that is, set, appointed; “a god”; that is, he was to act in this business as God’s representative, to act and speak in His name and to perform things beyond the ordinary course of nature. The Orientals familiarly say of a man who is eminently great or wise, “he is a god” among men.
    [Jamieson, Robert ; Fausset, A. R. ; Fausset, A. R. ; Brown, David ; Brown, David: A Commentary, Critical and Explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments. Oak Harbor, WA : Logos Research Systems, Inc., 1997, S. Ex 7:1]

    Verses 1-7
    Here, I. God encourages Moses to go to Pharaoh, and at last silences all his discouragements. 1. He clothes him with great power and authority (v. 1): I have made thee a god to Pharaoh; that is, my representative in this affair, as magistrates are called gods, because they are God’s vicegerents. He was authorized to speak and act in God’s name and stead, and, under the divine direction, was endued with a divine power to do that which is above the ordinary power of nature, and invested with a divine authority to demand obedience from a sovereign prince and punish disobedience. Moses was a god, but he was only a made god, not essentially one by nature; he was no god but by commission. He was a god, but he was a god only to Pharaoh; the living and true God is a God to all the world.
    [Henry, Matthew: Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible : Complete and Unabridged in One Volume. Peabody : Hendrickson, 1996, c1991, S. Ex 7:1]

    Moses’ last difficulty (Ex. 6:12, repeated in v. 30) was removed by God with the words: “See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh, and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet” (Ex. 7:1). According to Ex. 4:16, Moses was to be a god to Aaron; and in harmony with that, Aaron is here called the prophet of Moses, as being the person who would announce to Pharaoh the revelations of Moses. At the same time Moses was also made a god to Pharaoh; i.e., he was promised divine authority and power over Pharaoh, so that henceforth there was no more necessity for him to be afraid of the king of Egypt, but the latter, notwithstanding all resistance, would eventually bow before him.
    [Keil, Carl Friedrich ; Delitzsch, Franz: Commentary on the Old Testament. Peabody, MA : Hendrickson, 2002, S. 1:306]

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  20. 6.Yun daw tumakas nung gabing darakpin ang Panginoon, yung mga humuhuli daw po.

    HA, HA, HA... KUNG SUSUNDIN NATIN ANG PAG-IISIP NI MAMA ELI NA ANG MGA TUMAKAS AY YUNG MGA HUMUHULI, DAPAT HINDI SYA NAHULI. KASI WALA NA ANG MGA HUMUHULI. HA, HA, HA...

    KAYA NGA NAHULI SI JESUS DAHIL HINDI TUMAKAS ANG MGA HUMUHULI.

    MALINAW SA TALATA NA ANG TINUTUKOY NIYA AY ANG MGA APOSTOLES O DISIPULOS NIYA:

    Juan 18:8 Sumagot si Jesus, Sinabi ko sa inyo na ako nga; kung ako nga ang inyong hinahanap, ay pabayaan ninyo ang mga ito na magsiyaon sa kanilang lakad.

    Juan 18:9 Upang matupad ang salitang sinalita niya, Sa mga ibinigay mo sa akin ay hindi ko iniwala kahit isa.

    ANG JOHN 18:9 AY NAGPAPATUNAY NA MGA TAGASUNOD NI CRISTO ANG TINUTUKOY SAPAGKAT SILA ANG IPINAGKALOOB NG AMA KAY JESUS. SA ORAS NA ITO SI JESUS AY ISANG MABUTING PASTOL NA NAGPROTEKTA SA BUHAY NG KANYANG MGA TAGASUNOD AT NAG-ALAY NG BUHAY PARA SA KANILA. HINDI NYA HINAYAANG MAMATAY ANG MGA FOLLOWERS NYA PARA SA KANYA. DI TULAD NI MAMA ELI NA TUMAKAS AT ANG NAIWAN SA PILIPINAS AY ANG MGA KAWAWANG MGA TAGASUNOD NA WALANG KAKAYAHANG IPAGTANGGOL SA PUBLICO ANG KANILANG PANANAMPALATAYA.

    UNANIMOUS ANG PAGTANGGAP NG MGA SCHOLARS NA ANG MGA UMALIS O PINAKIUSAP NI JESUS NA UMALIS AY ANG MGA APOSTOLES O DISIPULOS:

    18:7-9. As the Good Shepherd, Jesus laid down His life for the sheep (10:11). His protection of the apostles was a perfect illustration of His substitutionary atonement. He died not only for them but instead of them. As the Good Shepherd He did not lose any of His sheep but fulfilled His Father’s will for the apostles (6:38) and fulfilled His own prophetic Word (6:39).

    [Walvoord, John F. ; Zuck, Roy B. ; Dallas Theological Seminary: The Bible Knowledge Commentary : An Exposition of the Scriptures. Wheaton, IL : Victor Books, 1983-c1985, S. 2:335]

    To manifest his affectionate concern for his disciples. When he exposed himself, he excused them, because they were not as yet fit to suffer; their faith was weak, and their spirits were low, and it would have been as much as their souls, and the lives of their souls, were worth, to bring them into sufferings now. New wine must not be put into old bottles. And, besides, they had other work to do; they must go their way, for they are to go into all the world, to preach the gospel.
    [Henry, Matthew: Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible : Complete and Unabridged in One Volume. Peabody : Hendrickson, 1996, c1991, S. Jn 18:1]

    In v. 8, Jesus warned His disciples to go away, lest they fall into trouble. He had already told them they would scatter (16:32), but Peter preferred to remain and fight—and got into danger because of it. Peter’s sin was not that he “followed afar off,” but that he followed at all! He should have obeyed the Word and departed.
    Verse 9 refers back to 17:12, where Christ spoke of the disciples’ salvation. Here He is talking about their physical protection. Thus, Christ keeps us in two ways: He preserves our souls in salvation and keeps our bodies, sealing them by His Spirit, until the day of redemption (Eph. 1:13–14).
    [Wiersbe, Warren W.: Wiersbe's Expository Outlines on the New Testament. Wheaton, Ill. : Victor Books, 1997, c1992, S. 260]

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  21. [7.Yun daw pong lalaking hubo't hubad sa halamanan, si Marcos daw po.]

    HA, HA, HA... ITO YUNG TANONG NI MICHAEL SANDOVAL NA HINDI MASAGOT NI MAMA ELI. BAKIT CONCERNED SYA DUON SA LALAKING HUBO'T HUBAD?

    OO NGA NAMAN. MAHALAGA PA BANG MALAMAN KUNG SINO YAN? SO WHAT KUNG SI MARK YAN O HINDI. THAT IS A VERY TRIVIAL MATTER.

    WALANG NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA SI MARK IYON. SUBALIT MAAARING SI MARK NGA DAHIL ANG STORY AY BUKOD TANGING SA MARK GOSPEL ACCOUNT LANG NAKASAAD. SUBALIT KUNG IPIPILIT IYON NI MAMA ELI AY LALABAS NA LUMALAGPAS SIYA SA BIBLIA AT NANINIWALA SA MGA KURO-KURO LAMANG NA WALA NAMANG DEFINITE PROOF.

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  22. Dear Bro. RCCKnight. I have these will be helpful for you. I also put them on the main wail but I divided them into 7 parts.

    God bless.

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