Tuesday, September 7, 2010

THE AGGREEMENT WITH THE HOLY SEE THAT MARCEL LEFEBVRE HAS BROKEN!

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the head of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Dean of the College of Cardinals, as celebrant in the Holy Mass during the start of the Conclave that elected him as the new Pope: BENEDICT XVI.

THE PROTOCOL AGREEMENT OF THE VATICAN AND ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

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Signed by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre on May 5, 1988

I, Marcel Lefebvre, archbishop-bishop emeritus of Tulle, along with the members of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, which I founded:

1. We promise always to be faithful to the Catholic Church and to the Roman Pontiff, its supreme pastor, the vicar of Christ, successor of blessed Peter in his primacy and head of the body of bishops.

2. We declare that we will accept the doctrine contained in No. 25 of the Second Vatican Council's dogmatic constitution, "Lumen Gentium" on the ecclesiastical magisterium and the adherence owed it.

3. Regarding certain points taught by the Second Vatican Council or concerning subsequent reforms of the liturgy and law which appear difficult to reconcile with tradition, we commit ourselves to a positive attitude of study and of communication with the Apostolic See, avoiding all polemics.

4. We declare moreover that we will recognize the validity of the sacrifice of the Mass and of the sacraments celebrated with the intention of doing what the Church does and according to the rites in the typical editions of the missal and rituals of the sacraments promulgated by Popes Paul VI and John Paul II.
5. Last, we promise to respect the common discipline of the Church and the ecclesiastical laws, particularly those contained in the Code of Canon Law promulgated by Pope John Paul II, except for the special discipline conceded to the fraternity by particular law.

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II. Juridical Questions

Taking into consideration the fact that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X has been formed for 18 years as a society of common life—and based on a study of suggestions by Archbishop Lefebvre and the conclusions of the visit made by His Eminence Cardinal Gagnon—the most suitable canonical model is that of a society of apostolic life.

1. Society of Apostolic Life.

It is a canonically possible solution, with the advantage of the possibility of bringing laity into the clerical society of apostolic life (for example, coadjutor brothers).

According to the Code of Canon Law promulgated in 1983, Canons 731-746, this society has full autonomy, can form its members, can incardinate priests and assures the common life of all its members.

In its own statutes, with flexibility and creative possibility in the light of the known models of these societies of apostolic life, one anticipates a certain exemption in regard to diocesan bishops (cf. Canon 591) in what concerns public worship, the 'cura animarum' and other apostolic activities, taking into consideration Canons 679-683. As for jurisdiction regarding the faithful who seek out the priests of the society, it will be conferred on them by the local ordinaries or by the Apostolic See.

2. Roman Commission.

A commission to coordinate relations among the diverse dicasteries and the diocesan bishops as well as to resolve eventual problems and contentions will be established by the Holy See and given the necessary faculties to treat the above-indicated questions (for example, the establishment at the request of the faithful of a place of worship in a place where there is no house of the society, 'ad mentem,' Canon 383.2).

3. Condition of People Linked to the Society.

3.1 The members of the clerical society of apostolic life (priests and coadjutor lay brothers): They are governed by the statutes of the society of pontifical right.

3.2 Men and women oblates, with or without private vows, and members of the Third Order linked to the society: They belong to an association of the faithful linked to the society in terms of Canon 303, and they collaborate with it.

3.3 The sisters (that is, the congregation founded by Archbishop Lefebvre) who make public vows: They will constitute a true institute of consecrated life, with its own structure and autonomy, even if one foresees a certain link for the unity of spirituality with the superior of the society. This congregation—at least at the beginning—will be responsible to the Roman Commission instead of the Congregation for Religious.

3.4 Members of communities living by the rule of diverse religious institutes (Carmelites, Benedictines, Dominicans, etc.) and morally linked with the society: It is fitting to accord them, case by case, a particular status regulating their relations with their respective order.

3.5 Priests who as individuals are morally linked with the fraternity will receive a personal status, taking into account their aspirations, and, at the same time, the obligations resulting from their incardination. Other particular cases of this kind will be examined and resolved by the Roman commission.

In what concerns lay people who seek the pastoral help of the society's communities: They remain under the jurisdiction of the diocesan bishops but—notably for the liturgical rites of the society's communities—can look to these communities for the administration of the sacraments (for the sacraments of baptism, confirmation and marriage, notification of their own parish remains necessary; canons 878, 896, 1122).

Note: There is reason to consider the particular complexity:

1. Of the question of the reception by the laity of the sacraments of baptism, confirmation, marriage, in the communities of the society.

2. Of the question of communities practicing—without being connected to them—the rule of this or that religious institute.

It is for the Roman commission to resolve these items.

4. Ordinations.

For ordinations, it is necessary to distinguish two phases:

4.1 Immediately: For the ordinations planned shortly, Archbishop Lefebvre would be authorized to confer them or, if he couldn't, another bishop agreed to by him.

4.2 Once established, the society of apostolic life:

4.2.1 When possible, in the judgment of the Superior General, follows the normal procedure: remitting the dimissorial letters to a bishop who agrees to ordain members of the society.

4.2.2 Because of the particular situation of the fraternity (cf. infra): ordination by a bishop of the society who, among other tasks, would have that of proceeding with ordinations.

5. Problem of a Bishop.

5.1 At the doctrinal level (ecclesiological), the guarantee of stability and maintenance of the life and activity of the society is assured by its erection as a society of apostolic life of pontifical right and approval of its statutes by the Holy Father.

5.2 But, for practical and psychological reasons, the consecration of a bishop member of the society appears useful. This is why, in the context of the doctrinal and canonical solution of the reconciliation, we will suggest to the Holy Father that he name a bishop chosen in the society, proposed by Archbishop Lefebvre. As a consequence of the principle indicated above (5.1), this bishop is not normally superior general of the society. But it would be good that he be a member of the Roman commission.

6. Particular Problems to Resolve by Decree or Declaration.

—Lifting the 'suspensio a divinis' of Archbishop Lefebvre and dispensing the irregularities incurred through ordinations.

—Anticipation of an "amnesty" and an agreement for the society's houses and places of worship erected—or used—until now without authorization by bishops.

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18 comments:

  1. fr. abe, konting paliwanang lang po sa kaarawan ng mahal na birhen para bukas. tnx po. pagpalain po kayo. -danny dayao ng bocaue,bulacan

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  2. Here it is Bro.:

    http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2010/09/happy-birthday-mama-mary.html

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  3. Hi Father Abe. Thanks God for your blog. I am catholic, active in serving God, pero since meron kaming BS sa office with the Born again, marami silang sinabi na against our religion na minsan hindi ko kayang depensahan. God is truly good,bec. in my searched He showed me your blog. May God bless you more. May sinabi din po sila na isa daw po sa Archbishop natin na converted na daw ang mga kapatid niya as Born again na isa rin pari dati. Sa family daw po nila, siya na lang yung natitirang Katoliko? Isa lang din ba yung paninira? Salamat po ulit.

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  4. salamat po Father Abe. Ngayon ko lang nalaman ito. God bless po Father...

    Add me again in FB Father kasi deactivated ung old account ko po.

    Thanks..

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  5. Yes, Bro. Don, marami pa tayong dapat malaman kay Marcel Lefebvre. Kasi after Vatican II Catholic Apologists were generous to him. We decided not to answer his allegations. That is the reason why his followers were depicting him him as if a saint and not the liar and deceiver that he is.

    He kept on attacking Paul VI and Msgr. Bugnini but the two gentlemen never said anything against him either in private or in public. Many of his followers are bitterly condemning Paul VI and Msgr. Bugnini for allegations that they never committed like the masonic membership kuno of Bugnini.

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  6. Dear Prettygem,

    Hindi tutuo yon. Gawa-gawa lang. Ang sabihin mo halos 50% ngayon ng mga Born Again sa U.S. ay Catholics na.

    More than 5,000 pastors and ministers ng Born Again, Baptists, Lutheran, Presbyterians, etc. ay naconvert na sa Catholic Church. Sa EWTN nga may program linggo linggo na JOURNEY HOME kung saan ini interview ang mga sikat na Born Again na naging Catolico.

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  7. MODERNISM- w/c is somewhat indefinite in its belief because it allows people to believe really
    what they want, "Whatever is meaningful". One of the principal tenets of Modernism is idea that Christians in former times might not necessarily
    be true today. Modernism is really RELATIVISM that is notion that Truth is relative to the mind, rather than an objective fact w/c mind knows and w/c is always and everywhere true, another people knowledge it to be true or not.

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  8. "Therefore, anyone who holds to the tenets of Modernism is not and cannot be at the same time a Catholic, because the two belief system are antithetical"

    Pope St.Pius X
    Pascendi Dominci Gregis
    (On Modernism, Sept.7,1907)

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  9. THE GREATEST ENEMY OF MODERNISM IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF HER POPES:

    POPE PAUL VI - opposed and attacked Modernism when he refused to allow Contraception, accept Abortion and refused Ordination of Women in the Catholic Church. "Humanae Vitae" made this Pope THE MORAL PROPHET OF MODERN TIMES. The Modernists hated Pope Paul VI but the loved Lefebvre because Lefebvre attacks the Pope as they do. THE MODERNISTS AND LEFEBVRE ARE DOING THE SAME... OPPOSING THE SEE OF PETER.

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  10. DISOBEDIENCE TO THE POPE IS THE WORST EXAMPLE OF MODERNISM. IT IS SATANIC. That is the common link between Lefebvre and Luther.

    The Modernist Media, the Press, the Atheists, the Protestants are attacking the POPE NOT LEFEBVRE. The Modernists know their ENEMY #1, that is THE POPE. Definitely neither Lefebvre nor the SSPX or the Sedevacantists.

    THE UPHOLDER OF TRADITIONAL CATHOLICISM IS THE POPE NOT LEFEBVRE... NOT THE SSPX... NOT THE SEDEVACANTISTS.

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  11. nung binigay ko ang anathema ng trent at vatican I, panay deny at counter ang mga popless society na ito... (na mas masahol pa kay Lefebvre sa pagaakusa na Modernista at mason si Pope Paul VI) pero nung pinakita ko ang tawag ng papa, which read as follows:

    "Precisely in fulfillment of this service to unity, which qualifies my ministry as Successor to Peter in a specific way, I decided several days ago to grant the rem...ission of the excommunication to which the four Bishops, ordained in 1988 by Archbishop Lefebvre without a Papal mandate, were subject. I fulfilled this act... of paternal compassion because these Bishops repeatedly manifested their active suffering for the situation in which they had found themselves.

    I HOPE THAT THIS GESTURE OF MINE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY AN EARNEST COMMITMENT ON THEIR BEHALF TO COMPLETE THE NECESSARY FURTHER STEPS TO ACHIEVE FULL COMMUNION WITH THE CHURCH, THUS WITNESSING TRUE FIDELITY TO, AND TRUE RECOGNITION OF, THE MAGESTERIUM AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE AND THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL."

    -Benedict XVI, January 28, 2009-
    Source: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/audiences/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_aud_20090128_en.html

    eh hanggang ngayon wala pa rin reply. Yet The irony is the address him as "HOLY POPE BENEDICT XVI"... hahahah hypocrites... They claim they honor him but they could not even respond to his call TO ACCEPT THE DECREES OF THE SECOND VATICAN ECUMENICAL COUNCIL

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001228161773#!/photo.php?pid=2608484&id=1367055281&comments

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  12. Dear Bro. CAtholic Defender,

    Sorry for calling you Bro. Don. He, he, he... I already know you but I will not mention siempre. I just added you again in Facebook. God bless you.

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  13. the supporters of lefebvre claims he was denied of the right to ordain bishops. In this document however, it is clear the Bishop Lefebvre was not deprived of the right to ordain bishops. TO quote this Protocol:
    4. Ordinations.

    For ordinations, it is necessary to distinguish two phases:

    4.1 Immediately: For the ordinations planned shortly, Archbishop Lefebvre would be authorized to confer them or, if he couldn't, another bishop agreed to by him.

    4.2 Once established, the society of apostolic life:

    4.2.1 When possible, in the judgment of the Superior General, follows the normal procedure: remitting the dimissorial letters to a bishop who agrees to ordain members of the society.

    4.2.2 Because of the particular situation of the fraternity (cf. infra): ordination by a bishop of the society who, among other tasks, would have that of proceeding with ordinations.

    Thank you again for granting my request to post this document we have found father

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  14. Welcome Bro. Ednard. Thank you very much for sharing here.

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  15. Dear Father,

    I like the juridical questions as an addendum to the Protocol agreement signed by Archbishop Marcel and Cardinal Ratzinger.

    I have my copy of documentation service (the SSPX Case)from the Ecclesiastical Diocese of Manila which I acquired last 2003. I was using this theological booklet as my surest guide not to be led in subtle conditioning posed by the ultras in some areas of the SSPX.

    Oftentimes, my actions are being misinterpreted because of my attachment to the Tridentine Liturgy. But this does not hinder me from talking Gregorian apologetics. The Church allows this as long as you remain in the bosom and unity of the Church. As defenders of the Church, I believed that we must study both arguments and not just the enemies outside the fold. I believe that some are just misguided on the issues. The magisterium should not be frozen in 1962, we must believe what the Church believes from 33AD-2010AD.

    I personally thank you Father for guiding us always. (",)

    Sub umbra Petri,

    Bro. Ryan

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  16. DEAR BRO. RYAN,

    [I like the juridical questions as an addendum to the Protocol agreement signed by Archbishop Marcel and Cardinal Ratzinger.]

    THE JURIDICAL STATUS OF SSPX IS STILL A PROBLEM THAT MUST BE RESOLVED. IT IS BECAUSE UNTIL NOW THEY HAVE NOT RETURNED TO THE FULL COMMUNION WITH THE CHURCH DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF THE HOLY FATHER. THEIR MASSES ARE VALID BUT ILLICIT. IT MEANS THEY ARE ILLEGAL ACTS. THEY ARE ACTS OF LAWLESSNESS AND OF DISOBEDIENCE TO THE POPE, THE BISHOPS AND THE CHURCH IN GENERAL.

    THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO BE WEARY OF THEM AND BE VERY CAREFUL OF THEM AND NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO BE INFILTRATED BY THEM.

    LET US BEAR IN MIND THAT DISOBEDIENCE IS THE SIN OF LUCIFER, IT IS THE SIN OF LUTHER AND IT IS ALSO THE SIN OF MARCEL LEFEBVRE FOR WHICH HE WAS EXCOMMUNICATED.

    THE EXCOMMUNICATION WAS REMOVED FROM THE FOUR BISHOPS BECAUSE THEY REQUESTED FOR IT BUT THAT OF LEFEBVRE REMAINS. I CANNOT IN CONSCIENCE PARTICIPATE IN THE ACT OF REBELLION OF THAT SOCIETY EVEN IN AN INDIRECT WAY. IT IS A BETRAYAL OF MY SWORD DUTY TO THE LORD AND TO THE CHURCH TO REMAIN FAITHFUL NO MATTER HOW WEAK AND STUBBORN I AM.

    [I have my copy of documentation service (the SSPX Case)from the Ecclesiastical Diocese of Manila which I acquired last 2003. I was using this theological booklet as my surest guide not to be led in subtle conditioning posed by the ultras in some areas of the SSPX.]

    VERY GOOD. THANK GOD FOR THAT VERY GOOD GUIDE.

    BUT THE SUREST WAY NOT TO BE CONTAMINATED BY THEIR POISONS OF LIES AND DECEITS AND THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST THE AUTHORITY OF THE HOLY FATHER AND THE BISHOPS IS TO GET AWAY FROM THEM. WE CANNOT REMAIN DRY WHILE DANCING ON THE RAIN EVEN IF WE HAVE A LARGE UMBRELLA. AND A PIECE OF WOOD NO MATTER HOW WET WILL NOT SURVIVE THAT LONG ONCE THROWN INTO THE FIRE.

    [Oftentimes, my actions are being misinterpreted because of my attachment to the Tridentine Liturgy.]

    IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE. YOU ARE A VALIANT APOLOGIST OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU FEEL THAT YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN TRIDENTINE LITURGY WILL SCANDALIZE OR HURT THE SENSITIVITIES OF THE PEOPLE OF DAVAO AND YOUR FELLOW CFD THEN IT IS TIME TO EXAMINE YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE TLM. I AM SURPRISED THAT THEY ARE QUESTIONING YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE AS A PRIEST I'VE BEEN CELEBRATING TLM IN VARIOUS PLACES BUT NEVER WAS I MISINTERPRETED THE WAY DONE TO YOU.

    I THINK THE REASON IS THAT I AM NOT GOING WITH THE SSPX WHILE YOU ARE GOING WITH THEM TOGETHER WITH SOME YOUNG CFD. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. TLM IS VERY GOOD BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY MASS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH FROM 33AD UNTIL NOW. NEVER EVER.

    I'M AFRAID THAT IF YOU WILL CONTINUESLY GO WITH SSPX THEN THE MISINTERPRETATION WILL NOT DIE. IT WILL GROW BECAUSE THE SENSUS FIDEI OF THE CATHOLICS WILL FIND IT REPULSIVE THAT WE JOIN SUCH A GROUP WHOSE EXISTENCE AND JURIDICAL STATUS IS QUESTIONABLE AND IS CAUSING SO MUCH HARM IN THE UNITY OF THE BODY OF CHRIST.

    I ADVISE YOU TO GET AWAY FROM THEM. WAIT FOR OUR PRIEST WHO WILL SAY THE TLM AND IF THERE IS NONE THEN TAKE IT AS A CROSS TO BEAR BELIEVING THAT THE CHURCH IS NOT DEPRIVING YOU OF THE HOLY EUCHARIST THROUGH THE MASS OF PAUL VI.

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  17. [But this does not hinder me from talking Gregorian apologetics.]

    THE GREGORIAN APOLOGETICS IS PETRINE APOLOGETICS, IT IS ALSO LEONINE APOLOGETICS AND PAULINE APOLOGETICS AND BENEDICTINE APOLOGETICS. OUR APOLOGETICS MUST BE TOTAL AND CONTINUOUS FROM PETER TO BENEDICT XVI.

    THE APOLOGETICS OF SSPX IS LEFEBVRIST APOLOGETICTS AIMED NOT ON HE ENEMIES OF THE FAITH BUT ON THE POPES, THE BISHOPS AND THE LATEST ECUMENICAL COUNCIL. THAT IS NOT GREGORIAN APOLOGETICS BUT AN AVERRATION OF GREGORIAN APOLOGETICS.

    [The Church allows this as long as you remain in the bosom and unity of the Church.]

    THE CHURCH IS CHARITABLE BUT WHAT THE SSPX IS DOING IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THAT. THEY ARE MAKING THEMSELVES HIGHER THAN THE SEE OF PETER AND PRESENTING THEMSELVES AS THE SUPREME LAW IN THE CHURCH.

    DISOBEDIENCE TO THE HOLY FATHER AS LEFEBVRE DID WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. NEVER EVER. FROM 33AD TO 2010AD.

    [As defenders of the Church, I believed that we must study both arguments and not just the enemies outside the fold.]

    YES, DEAR BROTHER. I AGREE. IT IS TIME FOR US TO DEFEND THE CHURCH FROM ENEMIES WITHIN. FROM THOSE WHO CALL THEMSELVES TRADITIONAL CATHOLICS BUT IN REALITY ARE TERMITES INSIDE THE BODY OF CHRIST - THE CHURCH.

    IT IS TIME FOR US TO PREPARE AN SPECIAL APOLOGETICS AGAINST THE SEDEVACANTISTS AND THE ULTRA TRADITIONALIST INCLUDING THE LIES AND DECEITS OF THE SSPX.

    [I believe that some are just misguided on the issues.]

    YES. WE MUST STUDY THE SSPX HARDLINERS AND THE SEDEVACANTISM AND SHOW THEM AS THEY ARE: POISONS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.


    [The magisterium should not be frozen in 1962, we must believe what the Church believes from 33AD-2010AD.]

    YES. AND THE DEFINITIVE AND ULTIMATE LINK TO THAT COHERENCE AND UNITY OF THE FAITH FROM 33AD UNTIL 2O1OAD IS POPE BENEDICT XVI, NOT MARCEL LEFEBVRE.

    [I personally thank you Father for guiding us always. (",)]

    WELCOME DEAR BROTHER. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU. YOU KNOW HOW DEAR YOU ARE TO ME. LET US JOIN HANDS TOGETHER IN PROTECTING OUR CFD FROM THE LATEST THREATS OF THESE NEW FOUND ENEMIES.

    [Sub umbra Petri,]

    SENTIRE CUM ECCLESIA, SUB UMBRA PETRI.

    [Bro. Ryan]

    GOD BLESS YOU DEAREST BROTHER.

    Fr. Abe, CRS
    An unworthy minister of the Church in the service of the Successor of Peter

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  18. Dear Father,
    First and foremost I really agree the knowledge of Sir Ryan regarding our Catholic Faith and doctrine.He really love the Catholic Church,he is very good teacher,he is a very good leader in CFD Davao and he is very friendship guy.Exaclly I really admire his wisdom .
    But sometimes thire is a one reason which I opposed to him, when we are talking about the Litury before and our present liturgy.He really agains the liturgical abuse which exaclly happened in our Catholic Church today during our Holly Mass( Novos Ordo0),me also I realy agains the said Liturgical abuse done some Catholic Priest during our Holly Mass today.But one time he said to me that thire is no Liturgical abuse in Traditional Latin Mass which I opposed to him because I know if there is a liturgical abuse in Ordinary Form of Mass there is also liturgical abuse in Extra Ordinary Form Of Mass but I keep my mouth silence for there is no argument between I and Him.
    But at the end I really admire to him for sharing his knowledge regarding our Catholic Faith and Doctrine.But I always careful when he talk to me about Liturgy.

    GOOD DAY FATHER....

    Good Day Father and God bless to you....

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