Tuesday, September 28, 2010

EXCHANGE WITH SSPX FOLLOWER, Part 6 On Doctrinal Differences

The magnificent statue of St. Peter in Rome.
Anonymous said...

DOCTRINE -- WHY ? II

Doctrine, or teaching, is of the very essence of the Catholic Church. Souls must firstly be taught how to get to Heaven, or they will never get there. "Going, teach all nations" is among the very last instructions of Our Lord to his Apostles (Mt. XXVIII, 19). That is why Archbishop Lefebvre's heroic fight for Catholic Tradition (1970-1991) was first and foremost doctrinal.

That is also why, as quoted last week in EC 165, Bishop Fellay told Brian Mershon last May that doctrinal differences cannot be bracketed out in order to arrive at any practical agreement, however attractive, with Rome. Asked whether the rejection by the Society of St Pius X of a canonical or practical solution was not "a sign of obstinacy or ill will", the Bishop replied (his words are accessible on the website of the "Remnant") : "...It is very clear that whatever practical solution would happen without a sound doctrinal foundation would lead directly to disaster... We have all these previous examples in front of us - the Fraternity of St Peter, the Institute of Christ the King and all of the others are totally blocked on the level of doctrine because they first accepted the practical agreement."

The reason for Catholic doctrine being "blocked" by any practical agreement is common sense. Today's Romans are still absolutely attached to their Council (Vatican II). That Council is essentially a slide away from Catholic Tradition, the religion of God, down into a new religion of man. If then they make a major concession to Tradition, such as would be any regularization of the SSPX, they are bound to ask for some concession in return. Now they know that the SSPX clings to Catholic doctrine, for all the reasons given previously. So the least that they can require is that the doctrinal differences be passed over, for the moment.

But that is enough for the Romans' purposes ! As to "for the moment", once a practical re-union were to have been signed, the non-doctrinal euphoria of all the Traditional souls delighted to be no longer out in the cold (as they feel it) of Rome's disapproval, would make it quite difficult for the SSPX to back-track if - just by chance, of course - the "moment" were to turn into an indefinite length of time. The trap would have closed on the SSPX.

And as to the "passed over", to pass over doctrine, especially the radical doctrinal difference between the religion of God and the religion of man, is equivalent to passing over, or bracketing out, God Himself. But how can a servant of God possibly serve God by bracketing Him out, or passing Him over ? If one thinks about it, that is the first little step towards a great apostasy !

As Bishop Fellay points out, 40 years of experience confirm these principles - the battlefield of Catholic Tradition is littered with the corpses of organizations which started out nobly, but failed to grasp the importance of the doctrinal problem. ( pls. don't edit anything on my comments in the long run. hehehe)

Kyrie eleison.

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[DOCTRINE -- WHY ? II]

WHY, O WHY?

[Doctrine, or teaching, is of the very essence of the Catholic Church.]

CORRECT. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE CHURCH PRESERVES HER TEACHING WITH DILIGENT CARE.

[Souls must firstly be taught how to get to Heaven, or they will never get there.]

DO YOU THINK THAT TEACHING CATHOLICS TO DISOBEY THE POPE THE WAY LEFEBVRE DID WILL BE GOOD FOR THEIR ENTRANCE INTO HEAVEN?

["Going, teach all nations" is among the very last instructions of Our Lord to his Apostles (Mt. XXVIII, 19).]

POPE PAUL VI, POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND POPE BENEDICT XVI WENT OUT TO VARIOUS NATIONS TO PREACH THE GOSPEL. BUT LEFEBVRE DIDN'T TEACH THE GOSPEL HE TAUGHT ABOUT HOW TO OPPOSE THE POPE AND HOW TO DISOBEY HIM.

[That is why Archbishop Lefebvre's heroic fight for Catholic Tradition (1970-1991) was first and foremost doctrinal.]

HIS FIGHT AGAINST THE POPE IS NOT DOCTRINAL BUT CANONICAL REFUSAL TO OBEY THE VICAR OF CHRIST. DOCTRINALLY IT IS CALLED THE SIN OF JUDAS... TREACHERY AGAINST THE CHURCH. DON'T HIDE HIS DEMONIC ACTIONS WITHIN CATHOLIC TRADITION BECAUSE NEVER DID CATHOLIC TRADITION TEACH THAT ONE MUST SEPARATE ITSELF FROM THE SEE OF PETER.

[That is also why, as quoted last week in EC 165, Bishop Fellay told Brian Mershon last May that doctrinal differences cannot be bracketed out in order to arrive at any practical agreement, however attractive, with Rome.]

HA, HA. HA... SO BE IT. DO YOU THINK THAT WE ARE SALIVATING TO ACCEPT YOUR RETURN TO ROME? ROME IS ROME WITHOUT YOU. IF THERE IS ANY DESIRE ON OUR PART TO HAVE YOU BACK IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT WE DON'T NEED YOU.

IT IS YOU WHO NEED US. BECAUSE YOU PRETEND TO BE CATHOLICS IN ORDER TO DECEIVE MORE OF OUR FAITHFUL TO JOIN YOUR REBELLION AGAINST THE HOLY FATHER THE WAY SATAN DID TO THE FALLEN ANGELS.

IF OUR DIFFERENCES IS DOCTRINAL THEN THERE IS REALLY NO UNITY BETWEEN US. SORRY FOR YOU BECAUSE PRE-VATICAN II DOGMA STATES THAT THE POPE IS THE SUPREME AUTHORITY ON MATTERS OF FAITH AND MORALS AND NOT FELLAY OR ANY OF YOUR ILLICIT BISHOPS.

OBVIOUSLY AS YOU HAVE SEPARATED FROM THE SEE OF PETER DOCTRINALLY THE POWER OF HELL HAS INFILTRATED YOUR SOCIETY AS WELL AS YOUR SOULS.

[Asked whether the rejection by the Society of St Pius X of a canonical or practical solution was not "a sign of obstinacy or ill will", the Bishop replied (his words are accessible on the website of the "Remnant") :]

OF COURSE, HE WILL RESPOND THAT WAY. EVEN IF YOU ASK SATAN IF HE COMMITTED SOMETHING CONTRARY TO THE CANON LAW HE WILL ANSWER THAT IT IS NOT OF ILL WILL. HA, HA, HA... THAT IS A VERY COMMON ALIBI THAT ONLY IDIOTS WILL BELIEVE. IT IS NOT FELLAY WHO IS THE DEFINITIVE AUTHORITY IN INTERPRETING THE CANONICAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LIFE OF THE CHURCH BUT THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS IN COMMUNION WITH HIM.

[ "...It is very clear that whatever practical solution would happen without a sound doctrinal foundation would lead directly to disaster...]

THE SSPX IS A DISASTER BECAUSE IT ABANDONED THE SOUND DOCTRINAL FOUNDATION OF THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF PETER AND THE PERSON OF THE VICAR OF CHRIST. THEY FOUNDED THEIR SOCIETY IN A MEGALOMANIAC FOOL LIKE LEFEBVRE NOT ON THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER. YOUR SOCIETY IS BUILT NOT ON SOLID ROCK BUT ON SAND.

[We have all these previous examples in front of us - the Fraternity of St Peter, the Institute of Christ the King and all of the others are totally blocked on the level of doctrine because they first accepted the practical agreement."]

ON THE CONTRARY THE SOCIETY OF ST. PETER AND THE INSTITUTE OF CHRIST THE KING ARE LIKE TREES PLANTED NEAR RUNNING WATERS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BECAUSE THEY ARE IN UNION WITH PETER. BUT THE SSPX IS DEAD AS DEAD. IT NEEDS TO DECEIVE PEOPLE THAT IT IS STILL CATHOLIC IN ORDER TO GAIN MORE MEMBERS.

BUT, YOU CANNOT DO OTHERWISE. AS THE DEVILS ARE FORCED TO BELIEVE IN JESUS YOUR PRIESTS ARE NECESSITATED TO MENTION THE POPE IN THE MASS BECAUSE A POPELESS SOCIETY IS DOOMED TO ETERNAL DAMNATION ESPECIALLY IF IT CLAIMS TO BE CATHOLIC.

[The reason for Catholic doctrine being "blocked" by any practical agreement is common sense.]

LEFEBVRE IS SENSELESS. THE BEARER OF THE DEPOSIT OF THE FAITH AND ITS SUPREME GUARDIAN IS THE POPE. THE DIVINE PROTECTION FROM HERESY IS GIVEN TO THE POPE AND THE OFFICE OF PETER AND NOT ON THE SENILE LEFEBVRE.

[Today's Romans are still absolutely attached to their Council (Vatican II).]

OF COURSE, WE ARE ATTACHED TO OUR COUNCIL. VATICAN II IS OUR ECUMENICAL COUNCIL. IT IS NOT YOUR COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU ARE SCHISMATICS AND ENEMIES OF THE SEE OF PETER. AS SATAN FEELS THAT HE DOES NOT BELONG TO HEAVEN SO YOU FEEL THAT YOU DO NOT BELONG TO THE ROMAN CHURCH. HOW NICE. YOU ONLY PROVED BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT THAT YOU DO NOT BELONG TO THE ROMAN CHURCH.

[That Council is essentially a slide away from Catholic Tradition,]

O NO, NO, NO... THE SSPX IS THE ONE AGAINST CATHOLIC TRADITION. REBELLION AGAINST THE HOLY FATHER IS NOT CATHOLIC TRADITION. GIVE ME A SAINT WHO REBELLED AGAINST THE SEE OF PETER? ST. ATHANASIUS NEVER DID. PADRE PIO NEVER DID... SISTER LUCIA NEVER DID. ONLY LUTHER, ARIUS, NESTORIUS, JUDAS ISCARIOT AND LUCIFER COULD FIT THE BILL FOR YOUR DISOBEDIENCE.

[the religion of God, down into a new religion of man.]

YOURS IS A SOCIETY OF ANIMALS.

[If then they make a major concession to Tradition, such as would be any regularization of the SSPX, they are bound to ask for some concession in return.]

WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY CONCESSION. WE ARE ASKING FOR FULL RETURN TO COMMUNION WITH THE SEE OF PETER. IF YOU WILL REFUSE ITS FINE. YOU WILL JUST BE EXISTING LIKE THE ORTHODOX AND THE ANGLICANS.

[Now they know that the SSPX clings to Catholic doctrine, for all the reasons given previously.]

HA, HA, HA... WE KNOW NOW THAT SSPX IS AN ENEMY OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND AN EVIL TO BE OPPOSED.

[So the least that they can require is that the doctrinal differences be passed over, for the moment.]

O NO, NO, NO... WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO PASS OVER FOR THE MOMENT. WE WANT EITHER FULL ACCEPTANCE OF OUR FAITH OR GET AWAY FROM US. IF YOU THINK THAT WE WILL GIVE YOU CONCESSIONS YOU ARE MISTAKEN. YOU ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT FOR US. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS COMPLETE ON HER OWN WITHOUT THE SSPX.

[But that is enough for the Romans' purposes !]

HA, HA, HA... NOW I AM TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT YOU AND THE SSPX ARE POSSESSED BY THE SAME DEMONS AS LUTHER. THANK YOU FOR CALLING US ROMANS. BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY THE NAME BEING USED AGAINST US BY THE PROTESTANTS, THE ANGLICANS, THE EVANGELICALS OR BORN AGAIN IN THE U.S. AND THE HERETIC CULTS IN THE PHILIPPINES. HA, HA, HA...

WE ARE PROUD TO BE ROMANS. HOW ABOUT YOU? IF YOU ARE NOT ROMAN WHAT ARE YOU? FRENCH? SWISS? HA, HA, HA...

[As to "for the moment", once a practical re-union were to have been signed, the non-doctrinal euphoria of all the Traditional souls delighted to be no longer out in the cold (as they feel it) of Rome's disapproval, would make it quite difficult for the SSPX to back-track if - just by chance, of course - the "moment" were to turn into an indefinite length of time.]

SO, IF YOU FEEL THAT IT WILL BE DISADVANTAGEOUS FOR YOU BETTER FOR YOU NOT TO REUNITE WITH US. WE DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE A DOCTRINAL RAPE OR LITURGICAL VIOLENCE. STAY WHERE YOU ARE UNTIL ALL OF YOU DIE ONE BY ONE.

YOU MAY SURVIVE HISTORICALLY LIKE THE ANGLICANS, THE ORTHODOX AND THE NESTORIANS. BUT YOU WILL BE A LIVING DEAD. SPIRITUALLY DEAD FOR BEING SEPARATED FROM THE ROCK THAT IS PETER.

[The trap would have closed on the SSPX.]

WE ARE NOT TRAPPING ANYONE. ACTUALLY, IT IS YOUR SATANIC SOCIETY WHO HAS SET A TRAP ON US. YOU PRETEND TO BE EAGER TO JOIN BACK AND REQUESTED THAT THE EXCOMMUNICATIONS BE REMOVED YET YOU ONLY USED THAT TO PLAY AROUND WITH THE CHARITY OF OUR POPE. DON'T THROW UNTO US YOUR OWN BRAND OF TREACHERY.

[And as to the "passed over", to pass over doctrine, especially the radical doctrinal difference between the religion of God and the religion of man,]

THE ROMAN CHURCH IS FOUNDED BY GOD WHILE YOUR SOCIETY IS FOUNDED BY AN OLD MAN KNOWN FOR BEING A FOOL.

[is equivalent to passing over, or bracketing out, God Himself.]

HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE FREE TO HALLUCINATE. DON'T INCLUDE GOD IN YOUR DELUSIONS. REBELLIONS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED BY GOD BUT WILL PUNISH IT ACCORDINGLY.

[But how can a servant of God possibly serve God by bracketing Him out, or passing Him over ?]

YOU ARE NOT SERVANTS OF GOD. YOU ARE FANATICAL SUPPORTERS OF AN EXCOMMUNICATED BASTARD.

[If one thinks about it, that is the first little step towards a great apostasy !]

YOU AND THE SSPX THAT YOU REPRESENT HAVE APOSTATIZED ALREADY. WHEN YOU REJECTED THE CHURCH OF ROME AND THE OFFICE OF PETER THEN YOU FELL INTO HERESY, APOSTASY AND SCHISM.

[As Bishop Fellay points out, 40 years of experience confirm these principles - the battlefield of Catholic Tradition is littered with the corpses of organizations which started out nobly, but failed to grasp the importance of the doctrinal problem.]

40 YEARS HAVE PASSED BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS STILL THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE MISSIONARY OF CHARITY OF MOTHER TERESA ALONE IS EVEN GREATER THAN THE SSPX. WHILE YOUR SOCIETY IS A PIECE OF SHIT STILL. IT IS NOT EVEN ONE PERCENT OF THE CATHOLIC POPULACE. YOU'VE FAILED TO RALLY PEOPLE TO YOUR SIDE BECAUSE THE SENSUS FIDEI HAVE SMELLED YOUR TRUE COLORS - ENEMIES OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND TRAITORS TO TRADITION.

[( pls. don't edit anything on my comments in the long run. hehehe)]

OF COURSE. DO YOU THINK THAT I WILL BE AFRAID OF YOUR REASONING. I FIND IT HILARIOUS AND PATHETIC. HA, HA, HA...

THE MORE THE SSPX PEOPLE OPEN THEIR MOUTHS THE MORE THEY ARE CONDEMNING THEMSELVES. HA, HA, HA... THE MORE THEY ARE PROVIDING US WITH REASONS THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER CATHOLIC IN FAITH BUT LEFEBVRISTS!

[Kyrie eleison.]

THANK YOU FOR PRAYING IN GREEK. SEE, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT AS STUPID AS THE SSPX TO ADVOCATE 'LATIN ONLY'. HA, HA, HA...

5 comments:

  1. Bishop de Galarreta's arguments in favour of the doctrinal discussions currently taking place between Rome and the Society of St Pius X.
    this was once argued that there is little hope of any agreement coming out of the discussions, on the grounds that you cannot mix oil and water. If you shake furiously a bottle containing both, the oil and water will mingle for as long as the shaking goes on, but as soon as it stops, the oil and water separate again. It is in their nature. Being lighter, oil is bound to float on top of water.
    It is likewise in the nature of the true Church's divine doctrine and neo-modernism's humanistic doctrine to be able to mingle but not mix. The "letter" or documents of Vatican II made them mingle, but not even Vatican II's masterpieces of mingling, e.g. "Dignitatis Humanae" on religious liberty, could get the two to mix. The aftermath of Vatican II, in accordance with its "spirit", demonstrated this. That "spirit of the Council" is still tearing the Church apart. Benedict XVI's "hermeneutic of continuity" is a recipe for continuing to shake furiously, or should we say resolutely, but the religion of God and the religion of man will still not mix. They still fly apart.
    Then why did some quote Bishop de Galarreta favouring the discussions ? For two reasons. Firstly, as to the discussions' main effect, in none of his arguments - read them carefully - did he expect or hope that oil and water can be made to mix. On the contrary, when he said that he looked forward to the discussions being terminated in the spring of next year, he surely implied that the shaking of the bottle should not go on indefinitely, especially if that were to foster in anybody the illusion that oil and water can eventually be made to mix. Secondly, all of his arguments mentioned side-effects of the discussions, whereby the contacts which they bring about between Rome and the SSPX act as anti-freeze, both in the radiator of Romans wishing to freeze off the SSPX, and in the radiator of SSPX wishing to freeze off Rome.
    others has the honour of agreeing with his colleague that Rome-SSPX contacts are good for the Universal Church, so long as there is no question of the SSPX failing in its Providential mission of helping to guard from today's Rome the Deposit of the Faith for when tomorrow's Rome will come back to its Catholic senses. "Heaven and earth shall pass away", says Our Lord, "but my words shall not pass away" (Lk.XXI,33).

    Kyrie eleison.

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  2. For further meaningful exchange of ideas and debate:

    A carefully well-researched article on the four Reasons why the SSPX is in Schism
    http://whyiamacatholic.com/SSPX/ReasonsForSchism.htm

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  3. THANK YOU SO. ITS A WONDERFUL SITE.

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  4. [Bishop de Galarreta's arguments in favour of the doctrinal discussions currently taking place between Rome and the Society of St Pius X.]

    AND WHO IS THIS CALDERETA? I DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIS AUTHORITY AND HIS BISHOPRIC UNLESS HE IS UNITED WITH PETER AND THE BISHOPS OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    OUTSIDE THE CHURCH ARE THE HERETICAL AND SCHISMATIC DOGS, FILTHY AND MALICIOUS HERETICS WHO ARE ATTACKERS OF THE MOST HOLY CHURCH OF GOD. SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE EXCOMMUNICATED LEFEBVRE OF CONDEMNABLE MEMORY. VICIOUS IN HIS REBELLION AND VICIOUS IN HIS VILENESS.

    [this was once argued that there is little hope of any agreement coming out of the discussions, on the grounds that you cannot mix oil and water.]

    YOU ARE THE OIL AND WE ARE THE WATER. BUT THE HOLY WATER AND THE HOLY OIL BOTH BELONGS TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH NOT TO THE SCHISMATICS LIKE YOU.

    [If you shake furiously a bottle containing both, the oil and water will mingle for as long as the shaking goes on, but as soon as it stops, the oil and water separate again.]

    HA, HA, HA... IT MEANS THAT WE CAN NO LONGER BE UNITED AGAIN. SO BE IT. GOOD RIDDANCE. SAYONARA! AU REVOIR! FAREWELL TO THE CONCUBINE.

    [It is in their nature.]

    THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH CAN NEVER BE IN COMMUNION WITH THE HERETICS AND SCHISMATICS LIKE YOU. THE JERUSALEM IN HEAVEN IS THE MOTHER OF ALL WHILE YOU BELONG TO WHORE OF BABYLON.

    [Being lighter, oil is bound to float on top of water.]

    THE WATER IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BUT THE OIL WHICH IS FILTHY IS THE SSPX. THEY TRY TO DECEIVE PEOPLE BY CLAIMING TO BE CATHOLICS BUT SOON THE SENSUS FIDEI WILL FIND THEIR VENOM AND HYPOCRISY ON THE SURFACE.

    [It is likewise in the nature of the true Church's divine doctrine and neo-modernism's humanistic doctrine to be able to mingle but not mix.]

    THAT IS WHY THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH ARE NEVER MIXED WITH THESE THINGS. THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS AND CONSTANTLY PURE IN ITS DOCTRINE.

    [ The "letter" or documents of Vatican II made them mingle, but not even Vatican II's masterpieces of mingling, e.g. "Dignitatis Humanae" on religious liberty, could get the two to mix.]

    DIGNITATIS HUMANAE IS FREE FROM NEO MODERNISM. IT IS FILLED WITH BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES OF LOVE OF NEIGHBOR AND RESPECT OF OTHER PEOPLE. UNLIKE THE MIND OF LEFEBVRE WHO WAS SO VILE, CAPRICIOUS, MALICIOUS AND PHARISAICAL IN HIS INTERPRETATION OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH.

    FREEDOM COMES FROM GOD. SLAVERY FROM THE DEVIL. THAT IS WHY WE UPHELD RELIGIOUS LIBERTY BECAUSE WE OPPOSE RELIGIOUS SLAVERY. WHERE THE SPIRIT OF GOD IS THERE IS FREEDOM. IT MEANS THE HOLY SPIRIT IS ABSENT IN THE HERESY OF LEFEBVRE BECAUSE IT REJECTS EVEN THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHT OF MEN... TO FREELY CHOOSE HIS RELIGION.

    THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES THAT IT IS SHE WHICH IS THE ONE AND TRUE CHURCH BUT SHE STILL RESPECTS OTHERS WHO DISAGREE WITH HER. LEFEBVRE IS SO EVIL THAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS. HE WANTED TO IMPOSE HIS RELIGION ON ALL, LIKE WILLIAMSON. THUS, THEY ARE BOTH FOOLS DUE TO SEPARATION FROM THE SEE OF PETER.

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  5. [The aftermath of Vatican II, in accordance with its "spirit", demonstrated this.]

    2 Corinthians 3:17 [Douay-Rheims Bible] "Now the Lord is a Spirit. And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY."

    SO, ST. PAUL ONLY CONFIRMED THAT VATICAN II IS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD. THEN LEFEBVRE AS A REBEL IS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE DEVIL.

    WHEREVER THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS THERE IS LIBERTY!

    VATICAN II UPHELD RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. WHILE THE LEFEBVRISTS HATE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. TRULY DEMONIC THIS CULT IS.

    [That "spirit of the Council" is still tearing the Church apart.]

    HA, HA, HA... THE SSPX IS THE ONE TEARING THE CHURCH APART BUT THEY FAILED TO DO SO. LIKE LUCIFER WHO SUCCEEDED IN DECEIVING THE MINORITY OF ANGELS ONLY A HANDFUL JOINED LEFEBVRE. NOT EVEN 1 PERCENT AND MANY OF THEM HAS RETURNED ALREADY. HA, HA, HA...

    [Benedict XVI's "hermeneutic of continuity" is a recipe for continuing to shake furiously, or should we say resolutely, but the religion of God and the religion of man will still not mix. They still fly apart.]

    THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE POPE TO SHAKE BECAUSE VATICAN II IS ALREADY PROMULGATED AND FINISHED. IT IS LIKE A BREAD THAT IS COOKED AND PREPARED. WE ARE MERELY ENJOYING ITS BOUNTIFUL FRUITS. ONLY THE SSPX ARE UNHAPPY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PRACTICE RELIGIOUS SLAVERY.

    [Then why did some quote Bishop de Galarreta favouring the discussions ?]

    WHO IS THIS BISHOP CALDERETA?

    [For two reasons. Firstly, as to the discussions' main effect, in none of his arguments - read them carefully - did he expect or hope that oil and water can be made to mix.]

    ONLY AN IDIOT WILL ASK THAT QUESTION. TELL HIM TO COME TO ME AND I WILL POUR HIM THOSE OIL RIGHT ON HIS HEAD AND WITH A TORCH LIGHTED NEARBY. TELL HIM NOT TO WORRY BECAUSE I WILL ALSO POUR WATER AFTER I THREW HIM THE TORCH. HA, HA, HA...

    THESE QUESTIONS ARE MADE FOR MELODRAMATICS. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SSPX THEY ARE FULL OF DELUSIONS. THEY FAIL TO SEE REALITY OVER THEIR ILLUSIONS.

    [On the contrary, when he said that he looked forward to the discussions being terminated in the spring of next year, he surely implied that the shaking of the bottle should not go on indefinitely, especially if that were to foster in anybody the illusion that oil and water can eventually be made to mix.]

    TELL HIM TO GO TO THE MOON. MAYBE IN THE OUTER SPACE HE CAN MIX THEM. HA, HA, HA... ON OUR PART, WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO JOIN HIM IN HIS FOOLISH SHAKING AND MIXING. WE ARE BUSY DOING SOMETHING ELSE. WE HAVE NO TIME TO LISTEN TO WACKY OLD FOOLS MIXING WATER AND OIL.

    [Secondly, all of his arguments mentioned side-effects of the discussions, whereby the contacts which they bring about between Rome and the SSPX act as anti-freeze, both in the radiator of Romans wishing to freeze off the SSPX, and in the radiator of SSPX wishing to freeze off Rome.]

    HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE TALKING LIKE A REFRIGERATOR. WHAT A REFRIGERATED THEOLOGY. HA, HA, HA...

    THE ROMAN CHURCH WOULD NOT BOTHER TO FREEZE SSPX. WE RATHER LET THEM ROT IN THE SUNLIGHT.

    [others has the honour of agreeing with his colleague that Rome-SSPX contacts are good for the Universal Church, so long as there is no question of the SSPX failing in its Providential mission of helping to guard from today's Rome the Deposit of the Faith for when tomorrow's Rome will come back to its Catholic senses.]

    HA, HA, HA... YOUR YESTERDAY'S ROME IS THE ROME OF TODAY. THE ROME OF THE FUTURE WILL BE THE ROME OF TODAY AS WELL.

    WOE TO YOU BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO BE TRAITORS TO THIS ONE AND ONLY ROME.

    ["Heaven and earth shall pass away", says Our Lord, "but my words shall not pass away" (Lk.XXI,33).]

    AND THE WORD OF THE LORD IS THAT "YOU ARE PETER AND UPON THIS ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH AND THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT."

    WE BELONG TO PETER AND YOU BELONG TO THE GATE OF HELL.

    [Kyrie eleison.]

    MAY THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD GRANT YOU THE GRACE TO RETURN TO PETER.

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