The Appearance of the Risen Christ to the Apostles. St. Thomas touching the mark of the wound, exclaiming: "MY LORD AND MY GOD"
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[3. PASUGO Jan. 2004, p. 33ff: (Regarding the Logos in John 1): What was with God in the beginning was His concept or plan or idea (logos) about the Christ who would be coming to the world. The term logos does not refer to someone who was co-existing with God in the beginning.]
HA, HA, HA... HERE THEY ARE TRULY PROVEN AS LIARS. LET US CHECK THE BIBLE:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
THERE IS THE LOGOS. THE LOGOS WAS GOD.
[2The same was in the beginning with God.]
THE LOGOS WITH GOD FROM ETERNITY... FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THIS IS THE ETERNAL EXISTENCE OF THE LOGOS.
[3All things were made by HIM; and without HIM was not any thing made that was made.]
LOOK AT THE PERSONAL PRONOUN USED. THE BIBLE DOES NOT USE THE WORD 'IT' PROPER FOR NON PERSONAL THINGS SUCH AS PLAN, PROJECT, IDEAS, ETC.
IT CLEARLY REFERS TO SOMEONE. IN GOOD NEWS BIBLE WHICH IS A FAVORITE OF THE MANOLISTAS: "HE was the same as God". Again personal pronoun. The Logos is SOMEONE.
4In HIM was life; and the life was the light of men.
ONCE AGAIN. ITS PERSONAL PRONOUN. THE LOGOS IS A PERSON NOT A PLAN OR CONCEPT. THE MANALOS ARE EATING TOO MUCH "LECHE PLAN". HE, HE, HE...
[Christ existed only when he was born. He had no prior existence.]
WRONG. "IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE LOGOS" AND THE LOGOS WAS WITH GOD FROM THE BEGINNING. NOTHING WAS CREATED WITHOUT HIM. SO, IF THERE IS NO CHRIST IN CREATION NOTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE.
[The word "God" in the third clause of John 1:1 is not a noun but an adjective...]
IT IS A NOUN. IN ENGLISH IT IS RENDERED 'THE LOGOS IS GOD' BUT IN GREEK: "KAI THEOS EN HO LOGOS" = AND GOD IS THE LOGOS.
[What does it mean that the logos was divine?]
THE GREEK USED THE WORD 'THEOS' WHICH MEANS 'GOD'. THE LOGOS IS GOD, NOT JUST 'THE LOGOS IS DIVINE'. THE LOGOS IS TRULY GOD.
[It means that the word of God is with power...]
WRONG. THE LITERAL TERM IS "AND GOD IS THE LOGOS". MEANING THE WORD OF GOD IS GOD. THERE IS NO POWER STATED THEREIN. IT DOES NOT SPEAK ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD HAVING A POWER, BUT THAT THE LOGOS IS GOD.
[The concept of incarnation grossly violates the biblical teaching concerning the immutability of God.]
IT DOES NOT VIOLATE THE IMMUTABILITY OF GOD BECAUSE GOD IS THE LORD OF CREATION SO HE CAN UTILIZE TO THE FULL THE MATERIAL CREATION IN ORDER TO BRING ABOUT HIS SALVIFIC PLAN TO MANKIND.
IT IS MORE STUPID TO TEACH THAT A MAN LIKE FELIX MANALO WHO HAD SEVERAL WIVES AND A RAPE CASE AT THAT COULD BE AN ANGEL.
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a helpful info for us catholics to know about the misleading doctrines of the INC. ty fr, abe. God bless you
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU BRO. DONNY. LET US PRAISE THE LORD.
ReplyDeleteChrist is not the one true God because he clearly said that the Father is the only true God.
ReplyDeleteMoreover, it is also clearly stated in Bible that JesusChrist is the mediator between God and men.
So Christ is not the one true God because the one who mediates and the one to whom he mediates could not be referring to only one entity? They must be different? Are they not?
If Christ is also God, it will follow that you have two Gods and not just one true God! It is just a simple addition: 1 + 1 = 2. It is ABSURD to think that 1 + 1 = 1
[Christ is not the one true God because he clearly said that the Father is the only true God.]
ReplyDeleteTHE FATHER CALLED JESUS 'GOD' CATEGORICALLY AND EXPLICITLY:
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
YOUR POSITION MAKES GOD THE FATHER A LIAR.
[Moreover, it is also clearly stated in Bible that JesusChrist is the mediator between God and men.]
JESUS IS MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN BECAUSE JESUS IS THE GOD WHO BECAME MAN:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God. The only Son, who is the same as God and is at the Father's side, he has made him known. [Good News Bible]
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JESUS IS GOD AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JESUS IS MAN BECAUSE JESUS IS THE GOD WHO BECAME MAN.THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT "JESUS IS NOT GOD". WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JESUS IS THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN BUT NO STATEMENT THAT JESUS IS 'MAN ONLY'. WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
[So Christ is not the one true God because the one who mediates and the one to whom he mediates could not be referring to only one entity? They must be different? Are they not?]
CHRIST IS THE ONE TRUE GOD BECAUSE HE AND THE FATHER ARE ONE:
John 10:30 The Father and I are one.
THE MEDIATOR AND THE ONE TO WHOM HE IS MEDIATING COULD BE THE SAME PERSON. IF A SUPER RICH MAN WILL GO TO HIS WORKERS INCOGNITO LIKE A SIMPLE EMPLOYEES THEN HE CAN MEDIATE BETWEEN THE EMPLOYEES AND THE OWNER DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE IS THE SAME BEING.
[If Christ is also God, it will follow that you have two Gods and not just one true God!]
IF THE BIBLE AND JESUS ARE NOT LIARS IN SAYING THAT JESUS AND THE FATHER ARE ONE THEN THERE ARE NO TWO GODS BUT ONE. YOU ARE THE ONE LYING NOT JESUS AND THE BIBLE. SORRY FOR YOU.
[It is just a simple addition: 1 + 1 = 2. It is ABSURD to think that 1 + 1 = 1]
YOUR MISTAKE IS NOT ABOUT ABSURDITY BUT ABOUT STUPIDITY. GOD IS THE SUPREME BEING, THE HIGHEST AND GREATEST BEING. THEREFORE YOU SHOULD USE THE HIGHEST MODE OF MATHEMATICS FOR HIM.
THERE ARE 4 MODES BY ORDER OR DEGREE OF IMPORTANCE:
4. SUBSTRACTION
3. DIVISION
2. ADDITION
1. MULTIPLICATION
THE HIGHEST IS NOT 'ADDITION' BUT 'MULTIPLICATION'. SO, IT MUST BE THE ONE TO BE USED FOR GOD. SO THEN,
1 X 1 = ONE (1)
I REPREAT. YOUR MISTAKE IS NOT ON ABSURDITY BUT ON STUPIDITY.
Christ clearly said, FATHER... THEY MAY KNOW YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
ReplyDeleteHe did not say, THEY MAY KNOW YOU AND ME THE ONLY TRUE GOD because THEY SHOULD MULTIPLY YOU AND ME AND THE PRODUCT IS ONE GOD.
Where in the Bible it says that we should multiply the Father and Christ?
Where in John 10:30 it says that Christ and the Father are one GOD? Are they ONE entity numerically?
Do you believe that Christ is in INCOGNITO when he was sent by the FATHER?
Do you believe that the Jesus who is the mediator between God and men the same person as the Father to whom He mediates?
John 1:18 (Good News Bible) has an erroneous rendering. If you will study it further and be truthful to yourself you can see the contradiction that such translation of the verse will produce.
Moreover, the true God has a begotten Son whose name is Jesus Christ, If Jesus Christ is the true God, who is His begotten Son whose name must be Jesus Christ?
[Christ clearly said, FATHER... THEY MAY KNOW YOU THE ONLY TRUE GOD.]
ReplyDeleteJESUS DIDN'T SAY: "I AM A FAKE GOD."
JESUS PROCLAIMS THE FATHER AS GOD AND THE FATHER PROCLAIMS JESUS AS GOD. AND JESUS SAID "THE FATHER AND I ARE ONE." SO THEY ARE ONE GOD.
WHEN THE FATHER SAID THAT JESUS IS GOD IT MEANS THAT HE IS GOD.
[He did not say, THEY MAY KNOW YOU AND ME THE ONLY TRUE GOD because THEY SHOULD MULTIPLY YOU AND ME AND THE PRODUCT IS ONE GOD.]
HA HA HA... AND HE DIDN'T SAY ALSO "THEY SHOULD ADD ME AND YOU AS 1 + 1 =2. HA HA HA...
JESUS SAID THAT THE FATHER IS ONE TRUE GOD BUT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT HE IS ONE FAKE GOD.
THE FATHER DECLARED THAT JESUS IS GOD AND THEREFORE IT IS TRUE. JESUS IS TRUE GOD. OTHERWISE THE FATHER WILL NO LONGER BE GOD BUT A LIAR AND BEARER OF FALSEHOOD. I RATHER BELIEVE GOD RATHER THAN YOU OR FELIX MANALO.
[Where in the Bible it says that we should multiply the Father and Christ?]
WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAYS THAT WE SHOULD USE 'ADDITION' FOR THE FATHER AND THE SON?
THE BIBLE SAYS THE FATHER AND CHRIST ARE ONE. SO WE ARE SAYING THEY ARE ONE. YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE TWO. YOUR POSITION IS DEMONIC. WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS ONE, IT IS ONE... NOT TWO. TO CLAIM OTHERWISE IS DEMONIC.
THERE IS A STATEMENT IN THE BIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD BUT NO STATEMENT THAT JESUS IS "NOT GOD". OUR POSITION IS SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE AND YOURS IS NOT.
[Where in John 10:30 it says that Christ and the Father are one GOD?]
ReplyDeleteWHERE IN JOHN 10:30 IT SAYS THT CHRIST AND THE FATHER ARE NOT ONE GOD? IT SAYS THEY ARE ONE.
THE FATHER IS GOD ACCORDING TO JESUS. THEN THE FATHER DECLARES THAT JESUS IS GOD. SO, DOES IT MAKES TWO GODS. NO. BECAUSE THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE "ONE". SO, ONE GOD NOT TWO GODS.
[Are they ONE entity numerically?]
THEY ARE ONE. THAT'S ALL. ITS UP TO YOU IF YOU WILL USE THE TERM 'NUMERICALLY' TO THEIR ONENESS. NO MATTER WHAT THE CONCLUSION IS THAT THEY ARE NOT TWO BUT ONE.
YOU USED 1 + 1 = 2. WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT THE FATHER AND JESUS ARE TWO? JESUS DIDN'T SAY "THE FATHER AND I ARE TWO". HA HA HA... NO, NO, NO... NADA, NUNCA, NEVER... IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA... JESUS SAID "THE FATHER AND I ARE ONE." SO WE SAY THEY ARE ONE. HA HA HA...
[Do you believe that Christ is in INCOGNITO when he was sent by the FATHER?]
IT WAS A MERE EXAMPLE. IF YOU DONT WANT TO TAKE THAT EXAMPLE ITS UP TO YOU. I CAN CHANGE MY EXAMPLE IF YOU WANT BUT I THINK ITS USELESS FOR YOU. BECAUSE YOU ALREADY DENY WHAT GOD THE FATHER HAD DECLARED THAT JESUS IS GOD. AND FOR YOU WHAT IS ONE IS NOT ONE BUT TWO. HA HA HA...
[Do you believe that the Jesus who is the mediator between God and men the same person as the Father to whom He mediates?]
FIRST, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PERSON? WILL YOU PLEASE DEFINE WHAT IS PERSON FOR ME AND FOR OUR READERS? PLEASE DO GIVE US THE OFFICIAL DEFINITION AND MEANING OF 'PERSON' ACCORDING TO THE TEACHING OF FELIX MANALO THE SO-CALLED ANGEL WHOSE INTESTINES BURST OUT LIKE JUDAS ISCARIOT. HA HA HA...
[John 1:18 (Good News Bible) has an erroneous rendering. If you will study it further and be truthful to yourself you can see the contradiction that such translation of the verse will produce.]
REALLY? HA HA HA... HOW COME YOUR INC MINISTERS ON TV REGULARLY USE THAT TRANSLATION? SO, WHAT IS THE CORRECT BIBLE TO USE? DO WANT THE LAMSA TRANSLATION? THE KING JAMES VERSION? HA HA HA...
WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL BIBLE OF THE IGLESIA NI MANALO? HA HA HA... EVEN MANALO USED THE BIBLE TRANSLATED BY CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS WHICH LATER HE CLAIMED TO BE FALSE. HA HA HA...
YOU DO NOT EVEN HAVE YOUR OWN BIBLE TRANSLATION. WHY? YOU WERE AFRAID TO COMMIT MISTAKES AND YOU LACK SCHOLARS TO DO SO. HE HE HE...
[Moreover, the true God has a begotten Son whose name is Jesus Christ, If Jesus Christ is the true God, who is His begotten Son whose name must be Jesus Christ?]
INDEED JESUS IS THE BEGOTTEN SON OF THE FATHER BUT BEING THE BEGOTTEN SON DOES NOT MEAN "HE IS NOT GOD". ACTUALLY, IT WAS AS THE BEGOTTEN SON THAT THE FATHER CALLED JESUS GOD. READ AGAIN:
Heb 1:8 But UNTO THE SON he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
HA HA HA... SO, THE BIBLE CATEGORICALLY REFERS TO 'THE SON' AS THE ONE DECLARED BY THE FATHER TO BE 'GOD'. HA HA HA...
NOW, WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT "THE SON IS NOT GOD"? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
Father Abe, iyon pong itinanong sa inyo kung sino ang anak ni Cristo kung siya ang tunay na Diyos ay siya rin itinanong sa akin noong Iglesia na ka-opisina ko. Hindi ko po masagot. Dahil sa totoo naman na ang tunay na Diyos ay may anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo.
ReplyDeleteKung si Cristo nga po ang tunay na Diyos bakit wala siyang anak na Jesucristo ang pangalan? Nalalabuan pa ako sa sagot natin.
[Father Abe, iyon pong itinanong sa inyo kung sino ang anak ni Cristo kung siya ang tunay na Diyos ay siya rin itinanong sa akin noong Iglesia na ka-opisina ko. Hindi ko po masagot. Dahil sa totoo naman na ang tunay na Diyos ay may anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo.]
ReplyDeleteSAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA KAPAG ANG DIOS AY WALANG ANAK NA ANG PANGALAN AY JESUCRISTO E HINDI NA SIYA DIOS? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
[Kung si Cristo nga po ang tunay na Diyos bakit wala siyang anak na Jesucristo ang pangalan? Nalalabuan pa ako sa sagot natin.]
SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA KAPAG ANG DIOS AY WALANG ANAK NA ANG PANGALAN AY JESUCRISTO E HINDI NA SIYA DIOS? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
ANG SABI NG MGA MANOLISTA ANG 'AMA' ANG IISANG TUNAY NA DIOS. NGAYON, SABI NG AMA NA IISANG TUNAY NA DIOS ANG ANAK AY DIOS. ITO BANG IISANG TUNAY NA DIOS NG MGA MANOLISTA SINUNGALING O HINDE?
KUNG SINUNGALING SIYA E HINDI NA SIYA DIOS.
KUNG HINDI SIYA SINUNGALING IT MEANS TALAGANG TUNAY NA DIOS SI CRISTO.
MAY SINABI BA ANG AMA NA SI CRISTO AY 'PEKENG DIOS'?
Pasensiya na po sa kakulitan ko pero talagang naguguluhan pa rin ako sa sagot natin. Hindi na po siguro natin dapat hanapin sa Biblia ng letra por letra na kapag ang Diyos ay walang anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo ay hindi na siya Diyos.
ReplyDeleteMalinaw na po kasi na sinasabi sa Biblia na ang tunay na Diyos ay may anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo. Sinasabi po natin na si Cristo ang tunay na Diyos. Di dapat po ay mayroon siyang anak na Jesucristo ang pangalan kung tunay na siya nga ang tunay na Diyos. Bakit wala nga po tayong maipakita. Sabi pa po nila sa akin ay tayo ang dapat na magbigay ng patunay dahil tayo ang nagsasabi na tunay na Diyos si Cristo at ang isa sa ikakikilala sa tunay na Diyos ay may anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo. Kung wala raw tayong maipakita na ganitong katangian si Cristo ay nangangahulugan na hindi nga siya ang tunay na Diyos.
Pasensiya na po sa kakulitan ko dahil sa nanggigigil na ako doon sa ka-opisina ko at parang nadadaya na rin niya ang iba pa naming kasamahan. Naisasama na nga sa mga gathering nila eh. Wala na po ba tayong mas magandang isasagot sa kanila?
[Pasensiya na po sa kakulitan ko pero talagang naguguluhan pa rin ako sa sagot natin.]
ReplyDeleteMAGULO ANG UTAK MO HINDI ANG SAGOT NAMIN. MABABAW ANG LOGICAL REASONING MO.
[Hindi na po siguro natin dapat hanapin sa Biblia ng letra por letra na kapag ang Diyos ay walang anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo ay hindi na siya Diyos.]
ABA'Y DAPAT HANAPIN YON DAHIL SI CRISTO AY TINAWAG NG BIBLIA NA DIOS. KAYA DIOS SIYA. SO ANG DIOS AY DIOS KAHIT WALANG ANAK. HA HA HA... KAYA NGA KATANGAHAN ANG CLAIM NG MGA MANOLISTA NA DAPAT AY MAY ANAK ANG DIOS. DAHIL SI CRISTO AY WALANG ANAK SUBALIT TINAWAG NA DIOS.
[Malinaw na po kasi na sinasabi sa Biblia na ang tunay na Diyos ay may anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo.]
MALINAW DIN NA SINABI SA BIBLIA NA ANG ANAK AY DIOS. KAYA ANG DIOS MAY ANAK DIN NA MAY AMA.
[Sinasabi po natin na si Cristo ang tunay na Diyos.]
ANG AMA ANG NAGSABI NA DIOS ANG ANAK:
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
WALANG SINABI ANG AMA NA YUN LANG MAY ANAK ANG DIOS KASI TINAWAG NIYANG DIOS ANG ANAK NA WALANG ANAK SUBALIT MAY AMA. HA HA HA... NAKU, UTAK GALAPONG KA. HA HA HA... WAG KA NANG MAGKUNWARING CATOLOCO. HA HA HA...
[Di dapat po ay mayroon siyang anak na Jesucristo ang pangalan kung tunay na siya nga ang tunay na Diyos.]
SAAN NAKASULAT NA ANG DIOS DAPAT MAY ANAK? SAAN? WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE. DAHIL ANG ANAK NA WALANG ANAK AY TINAWAG NG BIBLIA NA DIOS.
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[Bakit wala nga po tayong maipakita.]
BULAG KA AT TANGA KA KASI KAYA WALA KANG MAKITA. HINDI MO NAKIKITA NA ANG AMA AY NAGSABI NA DIOS ANG ANAK. SAAN NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA DAPAT MAY ANAK ANG DIOS?
[Sabi pa po nila sa akin ay tayo ang dapat na magbigay ng patunay dahil tayo ang nagsasabi na tunay na Diyos si Cristo at ang isa sa ikakikilala sa tunay na Diyos ay may anak na ang pangalan ay Jesucristo.]
KATANGAHAN NA NAMAN. DAPAT PAREHONG MAGBIGAY NG PATUNAY DAHIL PAREHONG MAY PANINIWALA.
SABI NG BIBLIA SI CRISTO AY DIOS. KAYA DIOS SIYA. SABI NG DEMONIONG SI FELIX MANALO E "TAO LANG" SI CRISTO. HE HE HE... SAAN YON SA BIBLIA? WHERE CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
[Kung wala raw tayong maipakita na ganitong katangian si Cristo ay nangangahulugan na hindi nga siya ang tunay na Diyos.]
TANGA PALA SILA E. GUMAGAWA SILA NG REQUIREMENT NA WALA SA BIBLIA. WALANG SINABI ANG BIBLIA NA DAPAT MAY ANAK ANG DIOS. DAHIL SI CRISTO AY TINAWAG NA DIOS KAHIT WALANG ANAK. SI CRISTO AY DIOS NA WALANG ANAK SUBALIT MAY AMA.
[Pasensiya na po sa kakulitan ko dahil sa nanggigigil na ako doon sa ka-opisina ko at parang nadadaya na rin niya ang iba pa naming kasamahan.]
ANG DRAMA MO NAMAN PARANG TOTOO. HA HA HA...
[Naisasama na nga sa mga gathering nila eh. Wala na po ba tayong mas magandang isasagot sa kanila?]
NAPAKA GANDA NA NG SAGOT NATIN. AT KATANGAHAN ANG TANONG NILA. NAPAKA BABAW NG ARGUMENTO NI MANALO. HA HA HA...
Yes, we have different beliefs about God and Christ, but let's make our sharing of beliefs in a more humane and professional way. We both agree that we should love our neighbors as we love ourselves although they are our enemies in faith.
ReplyDeleteI know you are a highly educated person much more a refined one. So I'm expecting you to be as such because you are a Catholic priest and a representative of your church. Let's not degrade ourselves by harsh words that will stir up anger instead of enlightenment. We should as much as possible have peace with everyone! Should we not? We should all the more strive to glorify God and not our true enemy-Satan! I hope i am clear about this.
I used the term person which means individual or separate entity.
Do you believe that the Jesus who is the mediator between God and men the same person or individual as the Father to whom He mediates or Jesus is a separate entity or person from the Father?
Thank you po Father sa pagtitiyaga ninyo sa kakulitan ko. Pasensiya na po kaya lang nasasaktan naman ako na sabihan ninyo ako ng tanga. Siguro nga po ay mabagal akong umintindi pero hindi naman po siguro ako tanga.
ReplyDeleteKaya mo ba na harapin sa neutral ground ang sinumang representative ng INC sa isang maginoong pampublikong debate? Kung totoong di ka takot sa mga ministro namin ipahayag mo na lalabanan mo sila. Kung hindi huwag na lang sagutin ang tanong ko--alam ko na na sagot sa tanong ko.
ReplyDeleteSIGURO NGA HINDI KA TANGA. PERO WAG MONG HAYAAN ANG IYONG ISIP NA LASUNIN NG KATANGAHAN NG MGA MANALISTA DAHIL SILA ANG TANGA.
ReplyDeleteANG SABI ANG TUNAY NA DIOS DAW DAPAT MAY ANAK? HA HA HA... SAAN NASULAT YAN SA BIBLIA? WALA..
ANG SABI ANG TUNAY AT IISANG DIOS AY ANG AMA. NGAYON, SINABI DIN NA ANG AMA AT SI JESUS AY IISA. KAYA IISANG DIOS SILA.
GAMITIN NATIN ANG REASONING NILA:
SA HEB 1:8 ANG SABI NG AMA ANG ANAK AY DIOS.
KUNG ANG ANAK AY DIOS E DI ANG DIOS MAY AMA.
NGAYON, ANG DIOS AMA BA MERONG AMA? HE HE HE... MERON O WALA? HE HE HE...
Thank you po uli Father at nauunawaan ninyo ako. Sana po ay maliwanagan din ang mga kaopisina ko na dinadaya nila.
ReplyDeleteWELCOME BROD. GOD BLESS YOU. MAY HE EMPOWER YOU AGAINST THE AGENTS OF FELIX MANALO THE FALSE ANGEL.
ReplyDelete[Kaya mo ba na harapin sa neutral ground ang sinumang representative ng INC sa isang maginoong pampublikong debate? Kung totoong di ka takot sa mga ministro namin ipahayag mo na lalabanan mo sila. Kung hindi huwag na lang sagutin ang tanong ko--alam ko na na sagot sa tanong ko.]
ReplyDeleteOO KAYA KO.
SI EDUARDO MANALO BA KAYANG TUMAYO AT HUMARAP SA DEBATE SA ISANG NEUTRAL GROUND?
[I used the term person which means individual or separate entity.]
ReplyDeleteIS THIS THE OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF PERSON BY THE INC? I DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR PERSONAL WORD FOR IT. I'M ASKING FOR THE OFFICIAL STAND OF THE INC.
IT APPEARS TO ME THAT YOUR DEFINITION OF PERSON IS CONFUSED WITH 'BEING'. AN ENTITY OR AN INDIVIDUAL IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY A PERSON BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST A 'BEING'.
[Do you believe that the Jesus who is the mediator between God and men the same person or individual as the Father to whom He mediates or Jesus is a separate entity or person from the Father?]
THE ANSWER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ON THAT QUESTION IS VERY CLEAR BUT FIRST BEFORE I GIVE IT I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME THE OFFICIAL MEANING OF THE WORD PERSON BY THE INC. OTHERWISE, I AM ONLY DEALING WITH YOUR PERSONAL OPINION.
I AM A PRIEST AND MINISTER OF MY CHURCH. I SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY ON MY EXPLANATION OF OUR DOCTRINE. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE A PASTOR OR AN INC AUTHORITY ON THE MATTER.
Sabi mo kaya mo na humarap sa ministro namin sa public debate? bakit ang usapan sa amin kagabi sa pagdodoktrina ay hinahamon ka na raw pero di ka na makasagot? Di sinungaling ka pala.
ReplyDeletesino ang tatay ng sinungaling? Si satanas
Saan bahagi ng sinungaling? Sa dagat-dagatang apoy.
guys, don't strain yourself too much.
ReplyDeleteyes, INC are a bunch of liars.
and you don't need to expend so much effor to prove that.
INC say Rome 16:16 mentions 'Church of Christ' by name. check any version of the Bible you can get hold of. it doesn't say it.
[Sabi mo kaya mo na humarap sa ministro namin sa public debate? bakit ang usapan sa amin kagabi sa pagdodoktrina ay hinahamon ka na raw pero di ka na makasagot? Di sinungaling ka pala.
ReplyDeletesino ang tatay ng sinungaling? Si satanas
Saan bahagi ng sinungaling? Sa dagat-dagatang apoy.]
WAG NINYO AKONG IDAMAY SA KAHANGALAN NINYO. KAYO ITONG MGA DEMONIONG NAGTATAGO TAPOS AKO PA ANG BABALIKTARIN HINYO. HE HE HE... KAYO ANG ANAK NG AMA NINYONG DIABLO. ANG MASAMANG ANGHEL NA IBINAGSAK SA LUPA. KAYA ANG LIDER NINYO AY APO AT ANAK NG PEKENG ANGHEL. ANGHEL NA MAY ANGHIT AT MAY LIBOG.
The Manalo family cannot even face the henchmen of Soriano, and Soriano is still hiding abroad. The Soriano worshipers challenge the church of Manalo to let the Manalo family come out especially Eraño, to come out and face Soriano. But the Manalo worshipers went high blood. They resorted to violence.
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