Tuesday, September 28, 2010

REFUTING A DATING DAAN MEMBER ON LIFE-AFTER DEATH

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jc said...

the story of Abraham and Lazarus is a parable told by Jesus to his disciples. Wala pang judgement na nagaganap.

At totoo nmang walang purgatoryo o limbo sa Bible, accept the fact.

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[the story of Abraham and Lazarus is a parable told by Jesus to his disciples. Wala pang judgement na nagaganap.]

THE STORY OF ABRAHAM AND LAZARUS IS A PARABLE TOLD BY JESUS. THAT IS WHY IT IS TRUE AND IT CONVEYS THE TRUTH.

THAT PARABLE IS VERY CLEAR. JESUS CATEGORICALLY NARRATED THAT WHEN LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN DIED THEIR BODIES WERE BURIED BUT THE SOUL ARE ALIVE. THE SOUL OF LAZARUS WAS WITH ABRAHAM WHILE THE SOUL OF THE RICH MAN WAS SUFFERING AND WAS COMMUNICATING WITH ABRAHAM. THE PATRIARCH IN TURN TALKED TO THE RICH MAN.

IT COMPLETELY DESTROYS YOUR POSITION THAT THE DEAD DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING.

THE MORE THE PASSAGE BECOMES SUPPORTIVE OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH. THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT SALVATION WILL BE GIVEN 'ONLY' AT THE JUDGMENT DAY AT THE SECOND COMING. THERE IS AN IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT FOR THOSE WHO DIED. IMMEDIATELY, THE LORD REWARDS THE GOOD AND THE EVIL SHALL BE PUNISHED:

Hebrew 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment"

RIGHT AFTER DEATH THERE IS JUDGMENT. FOR THAT REASON THE LORD NARRATED THAT RIGHT AFTER DEATH THE SOULS OF LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN RECEIVED THEIR REWARD AND PUNISHMENT. IT ALSO FITS WHAT JESUS PROMISED THE REPENTANT THIEF: "TODAY YOU SHALL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE" [cf. Luke 23:43].

THE LORD DIDN'T SAY: "TODAY YOU SHALL SLEEP IN DEATH AND YOU WILL NOT KNOW ANYTHING UNTIL JUDGMENT DAY." O NO, NO, NO... THE LORD SAYS "YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE". IT MEANS LIKE ABRAHAM HE SHALL BE ALIVE IN PARADISE OR IN HEAVEN WHERE HE WILL ENJOY HAPPINESS, PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF ETERNAL LIFE.

THIS IS FURTHER SUPPORTED BY THE EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS:

Hebrew 12:22-23 "22But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT"

THE LETTER TO THE HEBREWS WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE JUDGMENT DAY. YET IT ALREADY SPEAKS OF "THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT". IT MEANS THERE ARE ALREADY SPIRITS OF JUST MEN IN HEAVEN.

[At totoo nmang walang purgatoryo o limbo sa Bible, accept the fact.]

MAY PURGATORIO SA BIBLE DULING KA LANG. YUNG LIMBO IT IS ONLY A THEOLOGICAL OPINION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IT IS NOT PART OF THE OFFICIAL TEACHINGS. THEREFORE, I AM NOT NECESSITATED TO DEFEND IT.

21 comments:

  1. Hi Fr. Abe,

    I have few questions about 1 John 5:7, are you familiar with Johannine comma? In the Douay-Rheims Bible and KJV Bible 1 John 5:7 is

    And there are three who give testimony in heaven,

    [the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.]

    8 And there are three that give testimony on earth: the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three are one. [Douay-Rheims]

    7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,

    [the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.]

    8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. [King James Version]

    How come the phrase [the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.] is missing in majority of the Greek manuscripts except Textus Receptus?

    With exemption to DRB and KJV, how come other Bible versions such as NAB, NRSV etc. do not contain those extra words?

    Majority of Bible scholars agreed that the extra phrase was a later addition and is not originally part of the ancient greek manuscripts does this violate the Word of God when they added this phrase?

    I used the passage 1 Jn.5:7 to justify the dogma of Trinity against INC but I was confronted with the Johannine comma dilemma. Thank you very much Father in advance. God Bless!

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  2. the wisdom that given to us by God through Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel is far far far away from your understanding...it shown on your blogs..

    I thank God for I was awake from long sleep.

    Magkaiba ang bulag, sa nagbubulag-bulagan..at lalong mas magkaiba ang tanga sa nagtatanga-tangahan...ang marunong sa nagdudunong-dunungan...Sayang po ang maraming araw na inubos ninyo sa pag-aaral sa religion kung ganyan lang din naman ang mga paraan ninyo ng pagsagot..Totoong walang mauunawaan ang mga miyembro ninyo. Pasensya na po pero iyan kasi ang katotohanang nakikita ng mga duling kong mga mata as you've said. Sana po bigyan pa kayo ng pagkakataon ng Dios na makaunawa ng tunay at totoong aral na nasa Bibliya.

    Magandang araw po sa iyo.

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  3. Catholic Apostate ADD admirerSeptember 29, 2010 10:37 AM

    [[ "TODAY YOU SHALL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE" ]]

    SHALL BE. hindi You are with me in Paradise.

    Priest Abe, malinaw ang post ko sa una na bago pumunta sa langit o impiyerno ang tao ay haharap muna yan sa hukuman ni Cristo.

    saka isang araw lang ito ah. tandaan mo.

    Gawa 17: 31 "Sapagka't siya'y nagtakda ng isang araw na kaniyang ipaghuhukom sa sanglibutan ayon sa katuwiran sa pamamagitan ng lalaking kaniyang itinalaga; na ito'y pinatunayan niya sa lahat ng mga tao, nang siya'y buhayin niyang maguli sa mga patay."

    [[THE LETTER TO THE HEBREWS WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE JUDGMENT DAY. YET IT ALREADY SPEAKS OF "THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT". IT MEANS THERE ARE ALREADY SPIRITS OF JUST MEN IN HEAVEN.]]

    mali pagkaunawa nyo PRIEST ABE, wala pa pong nakarating sa langit ayon sa pahayag ni Juan sa Juan 1:18.

    saka kung totoo yan, hindi na babalik pa si Cristo para buhayin ang mga patay na banal na mababasa sa 1 Tesalonica 4:16-17.

    yung spirit dyan ay tumutukoy yan sa ating pagkatao na siyang kumokontrol sa ating mga paggawa. kung mabuti ang iyong espiritu ay makakagawa ka ng mabuti gaya ng masasabi dito:

    Galacia 5: 22 Datapuwa't ang bunga ng Espiritu ay pagibig, katuwaan, kapayapaan, pagpapahinuhod, kagandahang-loob, kabutihan, pagtatapat,

    23 Kaamuan, pagpipigil; laban sa mga gayong bagay ay walang kautusan.

    P.S. paano yan Priest Abe, pinaliwanag ko ang 1 talata ng Bibliya ng 1 talata di gaya mo na sarili mong paliwanag.

    kasi malinaw na ang aklat ng DIOS ay dapat saliksikin ang sagot mismo rin sa aklat (Isaias 34:16)

    Katunayang walang purgatoryo ay walang parabula na nasabi si Jesus patungkol dito.

    Ang mababasa ay tungkol sa paghuhukom na mapupunta sa langit o impiyerno ang mga tao.

    kung meron, pakilagay nga at baka mapaniwala mo ako then babalik ulit ako sa Inang Simbahan.

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  4. For the benefit of the readers who have the free-will to discern the truth between lies, I hope you will post again this comment of mine, which I have learned from our preacher Bro. Eli Soriano. And here it is:

    A “parable” is any fictive illustration in the form of a brief narrative, generally referring to something that might naturally occur, by which spiritual and moral matters might be conveyed. It illustrates the universal truth, it sketches the setting, describes an action, and show the results.

    The parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:20-31) would like to convey something to us:
    1. There is judgement.
    (Ecc 12:13) Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
    (Ecc 12:14) For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

    2. Love thy neighbor while live.
    (Mar 12:31) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

    3. There is punishment for the evil doer.
    (Pro 19:19) A man of great wrath shall suffer punishment: for if thou deliver him, yet thou must do it again.

    It is very clear that when a man died, his soul will be at God’s hand. And will not immediately enter judgment as you presumed.

    (Job 12:10) In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.

    (Ecc 12:7) Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

    to be continued:

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  5. continuation:

    Mr. Abe said:
    THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT SALVATION WILL BE GIVEN 'ONLY' AT THE JUDGMENT DAY AT THE SECOND COMING. THERE IS AN IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT FOR THOSE WHO DIED. IMMEDIATELY, THE LORD REWARDS THE GOOD AND THE EVIL SHALL BE PUNISHED:

    The Bible says:

    (Joh 6:44) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Please note, Jesus said that He will raise them “at the last day” and not after they died in flesh.


    There is ONE DAY for JUDGEMENT.

    (Act 17:31) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

    You, me, all men will be judged on that day, wherein:

    (Mat 25:31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    (Mat 25:32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    (Mat 25:33) And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    (Mat 25:34) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    (Mat 25:41) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

    You see Mr. Abe, I hope you understand now, what’s the Bible tells about judgment and life after death. I had remember when you said in your one blog that the kingdom of God have not seen yet, and that’s the absolute truth.

    (1Co 2:9) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    And then you used Luke 23:43
    (Luk 23:43) And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

    Bro. Eli taught us that “that when God speaks, it seems its already happened, although it will happened gradually.”

    When Lord Jesus told him (thief) “ shalt thou be with me in paradise”, it does not mean that in that very moment Lord Jesus will bring the thief in paradise as you presumed. All of us will wait for the judgment day, the last day.

    And about the purgatory, it is really hard to defend a thing that does not exist. Actually I made a comment there but not yet posted.

    Thank you very much for posting this. May God open you heart and search for the truth.

    (Act 16:14) And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.


    Praises and thanks be to God always.

    ‘Pag namatay ba ang tao, ano ang mangyayari sa kanyang espiritu?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vfQVjlk0H8&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLOurjsr4sg&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTN6ahYdBs

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  6. [For the benefit of the readers who have the free-will to discern the truth between lies, I hope you will post again this comment of mine, which I have learned from our preacher Bro. Eli Soriano.]

    OF COURSE I WILL POST IT AS LONG AS YOU REMAIN RESPECTFUL AND HUMANE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

    I AM VERY GLAD TO KNOW THAT YOU BELIEVE IN FREE WILL. LET ME SEE HOW YOUR MAMA ELI DISTORTED YOUR MIND.


    [And here it is:]

    LET ME SEE.

    A “parable” is any fictive illustration in the form of a brief narrative, generally referring to something that might naturally occur,]

    FICTIVE ILLUSTRATION REFERS TO THE FACT THAT THE STORY IS FORMULATED BY THE STORY TELLER. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE TRUTH THAT IT CONVEYS IS ERRONEOUS, FICTITIOUS AND MUST NOT BE ACCEPTED.

    [by which spiritual and moral matters might be conveyed.]

    VERY GOOD. HE, HE, HE... IT CONVEYED SPIRITUAL AND MORAL MATTERS.

    ONE OF THESE SPIRITUAL MATTERS IS LIFE AFTER DEATH. LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN DIED AND WERE BURIED YET THEIR SOULS ARE STILL ALIVE. THE MORAL LESSON IS THAT THE FAILURE OF THE RICH MAN TO SHARE HIS WEALTH TO THE POOR EARNED HIM PUNISHMENT IN THE LIFE AFTER DEATH.

    [It illustrates the universal truth, it sketches the setting, describes an action, and show the results.]

    HA, HA, HA... IT MEANS THAT THE DOCTRINE OF LIFE AFTER DEATH IS UNIVERSAL TRUTH. HA, HA, HA... DENIAL OF SUCH IS AN ACT OF LYING. THAT IS WHY YOUR MAMA ELI IS A LIAR.

    [The parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:20-31) would like to convey something to us:]

    YES. IT CONVEYS GOD'S JUSTICE, JUDGMENT, THE DEMAND OF CHARITY, THE ETERNAL REWARDS AND LIFE AFTER DEATH. IT ALSO CONVEYS THAT JUDGMENTS OF THE TWO PROTAGONISTS: LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN WERE HANDED RIGHT AFTER THEIR DEATH. IT IS IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT.

    [1. There is judgement.]

    YES, BUT THE JUDGMENT GIVEN HERE IS IMMEDIATE AFTER DEATH. NOT LATER ON THE COMING OF THE LORD.

    ([Ecc 12:13) Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.]

    YEAH, MAMA ELI MUST FEAR GOD'S COMMANDMENT AND HE SHOULD STOP HIDING FROM HIS RAPE CASE.

    [(Ecc 12:14) For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.]

    YES. IT ALSO SUPPORTS THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH AND GOOD WORKS.

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  7. [2. Love thy neighbor while live.

    (Mar 12:31) And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.]

    RAPING ANOTHER MAN IS ABOMINABLE TO THE LORD AND THEREFORE A VIOLATION OF THE LOVE OF NEIGHBOR. THEN HIDING FROM HOMOSEXUAL RAPE CASE IS NOT AN EXPRESSION OF LOVE OF NEIGHBOR BUT AN ACT OF LAWLESSNESS. MAMA ELI MUST SHOW GENUINE LOVE OF NEIGHBOR BY FACING HIS CASES IN COURT.

    [3. There is punishment for the evil doer.
    (Pro 19:19) A man of great wrath shall suffer punishment: for if thou deliver him, yet thou must do it again.]

    YOUR NUMBER 2 AND 3 ARE CATHOLIC TEACHINGS SO THERE IS NO PROBLEM FOR US.

    [It is very clear that when a man died, his soul will be at God’s hand. And will not immediately enter judgment as you presumed.]

    HA, HA, HA... THAT IS CONTRADICTED BY THE PARABLE ITSELF. BOTH THE BEGGAR AND THE RICH MAN DIED AND THEY WERE REWARDED ALREADY WITH BLESSEDNESS AND PUNISHMENT. ALSO, ABRAHAM IS ALREADY IN HEAVEN. IF THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE LAST JUDGMENT THE LORD SHOULD HAVE STATED THAT THEY WERE SLEEPING OR DEAD IN THE CEMETERY WAITING FOR HIS COMING. HA, HA, HA...

    [(Job 12:10) In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind.]

    THAT STATEMENT 'IN THE HAND OF THE LORD' IS A SPIRITUAL STATEMENT. IT MEANS THAT THE LORD IS TAKING GOOD CARE OF THEM. HOW? BY PUNISHING THE EVIL ONES AND REWARDING THE GOOD ONES.

    THAT STATEMENT IS NOT A DENIAL OF OUR POSITION. NO, NO, NO... BECAUSE BEING IN THE HAND OF THE LORD DOES NOT MEAN DENIAL OF LIFE AFTER DEATH. HE, HE, HE... YOU ARE DRAWING CONCLUSION FROM VERSES THAT DOES NOT STATE YOUR CLAIMS.

    [(Ecc 12:7) Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.]

    THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR CATHOLIC DOCTRINE. WE BELIEVE THAT THE BODY OF THE HUMAN PERSON RETURNS TO DUST WHEN HE DIES. THAT IS WHY WE INTERN AND BURY THE BODIES. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE CATHOLIC CEMETERIES WHILE THE ADD HAS NONE. HA, HA, HA...

    WE ALSO TEACH THAT AS THE BODY RETURNS TO DUST IN THE CEMETERY THE SOUL RETURNS TO GOD. NOW, WHAT WILL GOD DO TO THOSE SOULS? HE PUNISHES THE EVIL AND REWARDS THE GOOD.

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  8. Mr. Abe said:
    THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT SALVATION WILL BE GIVEN 'ONLY' AT THE JUDGMENT DAY AT THE SECOND COMING. THERE IS AN IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT FOR THOSE WHO DIED. IMMEDIATELY, THE LORD REWARDS THE GOOD AND THE EVIL SHALL BE PUNISHED:

    [The Bible says:

    (Joh 6:44) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Please note, Jesus said that He will raise them “at the last day” and not after they died in flesh.]

    HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS TWO DOCTRINE OF JUDGMENT:

    1. THE IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT, and
    2. THE FINAL JUDGMENT

    THE PARABLE OF THE RICH MAN REFERS TO IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT AND JOHN 6:44 POINTS TO THE FINAL JUDGMENT. SO WE ARE CORRECT IN BOTH INSTANCE.

    BESIDES, THERE IS NOTHING IN THE STATEMENT THAT SAYS 'I WILL RAISE THEM UP ON THE LAST DAY ONLY'. O NO, NO, NO...

    EVEN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THERE IS ALREADY A DECLARATION THAT THE SAINTS ARE IN THE COMPANY OF GOD:

    Deuteronomy 33:2-3 "And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them. Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words."

    IN v. 3 IT IS STATED THAT THE SAINTS ARE IN THE HAND OF GOD BUT PRIOR TO THAT IN v. 2 THE SAINTS ARE PRESENTED AS COMPANIONS OF THE LORD. THEY ARE IN THE COMPANY OF THE LORD. SO, THEY ARE NOT JUST DUSTING AS YOU ARE CLAIMING BUT THEY ARE ALIVE WITH THE LORD. THEY HAVE BEEN REWARDED BY BEING WITH HIM.

    ANOTHER IS THAT ON THE FINAL JUDGMENT THE LORD WILL COME WITH HIS SAINTS ALREADY IN HIS COMPANY:

    Jude 1:14-16 (King James Version)

    14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, THE LORD COMETH WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINTS,

    15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

    16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

    THAT PASSAGE SUPPORTS DEUTERONOMY 33. THE JUST ARE ALREADY REWARDED AND HONORED UPON THEIR DEATH PRIOR TO FINAL JUDGMENT AND THOSE WHO WILL BE JUDGED IN THE FINAL JUDGMENT ARE THOSE WHO ARE STILL ALIVE OR HAVE NOT RECEIVED GOD'S DECISION FOR THEM YET.

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  9. [There is ONE DAY for JUDGEMENT.

    (Act 17:31) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

    You, me, all men will be judged on that day, wherein:

    (Mat 25:31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
    (Mat 25:32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
    (Mat 25:33) And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
    (Mat 25:34) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
    (Mat 25:41) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:]

    HA, HA, HA... THIS PASSAGE DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY DENIAL OF THE IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT WHICH THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF CONFIRMED WHEN HE TOLD THE REPENTANT THIEF: "TODAY, YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE" [Luke 23:43]. THE LORD DIDN'T SAY: "WAIT FOR THE FINAL JUDGMENT ON THE LAST DAY". EXCUSE ME.

    THAT PASSAGE ONLY SHOWS THAT THE FINAL JUDGMENT IS ALSO A GENERAL JUDGMENT. IT MEANS THAT THE UNIVERSAL PRONOUNCEMENT OF SALVATION AND DAMNATION WILL BE GIVEN.

    IT IS STATED ABOVE THAT THE LORD WILL COME TOGETHER WITH HIS ANGELS. HOWEVER, ST. JUDE CLARIFIES THAT TOGETHER WITH THE ANGELS GOD WILL ALSO RETURN WITH HIS THOUSANDS OF SAINTS. IT MEANS THAT THESE SAINTS HAVE RECEIVED PRIOR JUDGMENT.

    BESIDES, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SAINTS IN HEAVEN WILL BE GIVEN THE HONOR TO JUDGE THE PRESENT GENERATION:

    Luke 11:32 "The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here."

    THE PEOPLE OF NINEVEH WHO REPENTED IN FASTING AND ASHES WILL BE WITH THE LORD AND WILL BE GIVEN THE HONOR TO JUDGE THE NON-REPENTANT ISRAELITES.

    Matthew 19:28 "Matthew 19:28 (King James Version)

    28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

    NOT ONLY THE NINEVITES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE SAME HONOR WILL BE GIVEN TO THE APOSTLES AND TO THE CHRISTIANS WHO REMAINED FAITHFUL IN THE SERVICE OF THE LORD AS THE LORD HIMSELF STATED IN MATTHEW 11:28.

    THEREFORE, IT IS WELL ESTABLISHED THAT PRIOR TO THE GENERAL AND FINAL JUDGMENT THERE WERE OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN DECLARED SAVED AND HAVE BEEN GIVEN IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT LIKE THE REPENTANT THIEF, ABRAHAM, NINEVITES AND THE APOSTLES.

    [You see Mr. Abe,]

    I CAN SEE THAT YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF SCRIPTURE AS TAUGHT TO YOU BY MAMA ELI IS PARTIAL AND LIMITED. THAT IS WHY YOU DO NOT SEE THE COMPLETE PICTURE THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS KIND OF JUDGMENT HANDED ON BY GOD.

    [I hope you understand now, what’s the Bible tells about judgment and life after death.]

    I UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE BUT YOUR CONCLUSIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLICAL TEXTS YOU ARE USING. NOT AT ALL.

    [I had remember when you said in your one blog that the kingdom of God have not seen yet, and that’s the absolute truth.]

    I DON'T REMEMBER WRITING THAT STATEMENT. FOR SURE YOU'VE FAILED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING.

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  10. [(1Co 2:9) But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.]

    HA, HA, HA... THERE IS NO DENIAL OF IMMEDIATE JUDGMENT HERE. YOU ARE HALLUCINATING.

    [And then you used Luke 23:43
    (Luk 23:43) And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

    Bro. Eli taught us that “that when God speaks, it seems its already happened, although it will happened gradually.”]

    HA, HA, HA... YOU AND MAMA ELI ARE BOTH FOOLS. WHEN GOD SPEAKS SOMETHING IT HAPPENS AT ONCE BECAUSE THE WORD OF GOD IS EFFECTIVE, POWERFUL AND QUICK... IT IS IMMEDIATELY EFFICACIOUS:

    Hebrews 4:12 (King James Version) "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

    [When Lord Jesus told him (thief) “ shalt thou be with me in paradise”, it does not mean that in that very moment Lord Jesus will bring the thief in paradise as you presumed.]

    O NO, NO, NO... JESUS HAS STATED IT VERY CLEARLY AND CATEGORICALLY... "TODAY" AND NOT "LATER ON THE LAST DAY". HA, HA, HA... MAMA ELI IS DISTORTING THE WORDS OF JESUS. HA, HA, HA... AND HE HAS FOOLED YOU. WE DO NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO BE FOOLED BY MAMA ELI. HA, HA, HA...

    [All of us will wait for the judgment day, the last day.]

    O NO, NO, NO... THE SAINTS AND THOSE WHO HAVE DONE GOOD ARE ALREADY GIVEN THEIR ETERNAL REWARD. THEY ARE ALREADY IN HEAVEN AND THEY WILL ACCOMPANY THE LORD ON THE FINAL JUDGMENT.

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  11. [And about the purgatory, it is really hard to defend a thing that does not exist.]

    IT WILL BE HARDER FOR YOU TO DEFEND HOW YOUR MAMA ELI BECAME A GENUINE MESSENGER OF GOD AND HOW YOUR CULT KEPT ON CHANGING ITS NAME EVERY TIME YOUR MAMA ELI IS LOOSING IN COURT. IT WILL BE HARDER FOR YOU TO PROVE BIBLICALLY HOW THE NEPHEW OF YOUR MAMA ELI WILL BE THE SUCCESSOR IN THE LEADERSHIP OF DATING DAAN. IT WILL BE HARDER FOR YOU TO DEFEND WHY YOU ARE DEMANDING THAT YOUR MEMBERS WORSHIP FACING THE EAST. HE, HE, HE...

    AND IT WILL BE HARDER FOR YOU TO PROVE BIBLICALLY WHY YOUR LEADER WHO HAS A HOMOSEXUAL RAPE CASE IN COURT IS HIDING IN COWARDICE.

    [Actually I made a comment there but not yet posted.]

    REALLY, IT WILL BE PROPERLY TAKEN SOON. JUST WATCH FOR IT.

    [Thank you very much for posting this. May God open you heart and search for the truth.]

    YOU ARE WELCOME. MAY THE LORD OPEN YOUR HEART TO THE TRUTH HE HAS ENTRUSTED TO THE CHURCH AND FREE YOU FROM THE INVENTED TEACHINGS OF MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST HIDING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

    [(Act 16:14) And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.]

    LYDIA IS NOT FROM APALIT AND HE RECEIVED THE FAITH FROM THE APOSTLES NOT FROM MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST. YOUR CULT IS NEWLY INVENTED BY MAMA ELI THE HIDING HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST.

    YOUR FAITH IS NOT THE SAME AS THE APOSTOLIC FAITH OF LYDIA.

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  12. [[ "TODAY YOU SHALL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE" ]]

    SHALL BE. hindi You are with me in Paradise.

    HA, HA, HA... NAPAKATANGANG SAGOT. PINUTOL MO E. ANG SABI "TODAY YOU SHALL BE WITH ME IN PARASIDE" HINDI "ON THE LAST DAY YOU SHALL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE". HA, HA, HA...

    YANG 'TODAY' NA IYAN, NOON YAN HABANG NAKABAYUBAY SI CRISTO AT ANG REPENTANT THIEF. THE FOLLOWING DAY TAPOS NA ANG 'TODAY' NA IYON. NASA PARAISO NA ANG REPENTANT THIEF BEFORE THE LAST JUDGMENT. HA, HA, HA...

    [Priest Abe, malinaw ang post ko sa una na bago pumunta sa langit o impiyerno ang tao ay haharap muna yan sa hukuman ni Cristo.]

    WALA KAMING ARAL NA BAGO PUMUNTA ANG ISANG TAO SA LANGIT AY HINDI HUMAHARAP SA HUKUMAN NI CRISTO.

    ANG REPENTANT THIEF AY HUMARAP SA HUKUMAN NI CRISTO DAHIL HINUKUMAN SIYA NI CRISTO TAPOS NIYANG MAGMAKAAWA DITO HABANG NAKABAYUBAY SA KRUS.

    [saka isang araw lang ito ah. tandaan mo.]

    HA, HA, HA... MALAYA KA SA IYONG ILUSYON. DAHIL ANG REPENTANT THIEF AY HINUKUMAN NI CRISTO BAGO DUMATING ANG HULING PAGHUHUKOM.

    [Gawa 17: 31 "Sapagka't siya'y nagtakda ng isang araw na kaniyang ipaghuhukom sa sanglibutan ayon sa katuwiran sa pamamagitan ng lalaking kaniyang itinalaga; na ito'y pinatunayan niya sa lahat ng mga tao, nang siya'y buhayin niyang maguli sa mga patay."]

    NAGTAKDA NG ISANG ARAW ANG PANGINOON. PERO HINDI SINASABING IYAN AY KAISA-ISANG ARAW LAMANG. NUNG SINABI NIYA SA REPENTANT THIEF 'TODAY' ANG 'TODAY' NA IYAN YA ISANG ARAW LAMANG AT HINDI DALAWA.

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  13. [[THE LETTER TO THE HEBREWS WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE JUDGMENT DAY. YET IT ALREADY SPEAKS OF "THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT". IT MEANS THERE ARE ALREADY SPIRITS OF JUST MEN IN HEAVEN.]]

    mali pagkaunawa nyo PRIEST ABE, wala pa pong nakarating sa langit ayon sa pahayag ni Juan sa Juan 1:18.

    HA, HA, HA... TIGNAN NATIN ANG JUAN 1:18

    Juan 1:18 [Ang Biblia] "Walang taong nakakita kailan man sa Dios; ang bugtong na Anak, na nasa sinapupunan ng Ama, siya ang nagpakilala sa kanya."

    HA, HA, HA... WALANG SINASABI DYAN NA WALANG TAONG NAKAPASOK SA LANGIT. ANG SABI DIYAN WALANG TAONG NAKAKITA KAILAN MAN SA DIOS. HA, HA, HA... HINDI KA SUPORTADO NG TALATA MO.

    NGAYON, ITO NAMAN ANG TALATA KO. SA LUMANG TIPAN PA LANG ANG DIOS AY MAY KASAMA NANG MGA BANAL... MGA SAINTS:

    Deut 33:2 And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.


    [saka kung totoo yan, hindi na babalik pa si Cristo para buhayin ang mga patay na banal na mababasa sa 1 Tesalonica 4:16-17.]

    HINDI, BABALIK PA RIN SI CRISTO KAHIT TUTUO IYON. KASI ANG BALAK TALAGA NI CRISTO AY ISAMA ANG KALULUWA NG MGA LIGTAS NA SA KANYANG PAGBABALIK UPANG SILA MAN AY TUMULONG SA PAGHUKOM SA MGA ISRAELITA:

    Jude 1:14-16 (King James Version)

    14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, THE LORD COMETH WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF HIS SAINTS,

    15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

    [yung spirit dyan ay tumutukoy yan sa ating pagkatao na siyang kumokontrol sa ating mga paggawa.]

    HA, HA, HA... ANG GALING MO NAMANG MAG-IMBENTO NG KAHULUGAN. TALAGANG HANDA KANG BALUKTUTIN ANG MGA BAGAY PARA LANG PAGTAKPAN SI MAMA ELI. HA, HA, HA..

    [kung mabuti ang iyong espiritu ay makakagawa ka ng mabuti gaya ng masasabi dito:

    Galacia 5: 22 Datapuwa't ang bunga ng Espiritu ay pagibig, katuwaan, kapayapaan, pagpapahinuhod, kagandahang-loob, kabutihan, pagtatapat,

    23 Kaamuan, pagpipigil; laban sa mga gayong bagay ay walang kautusan.]

    HA, HA, HA... ESPIRITU SANTO ANG TINUTUKOY DIYAN NA NAGBIBIGAY NG GRASYANG KABANALAN. WALANG SINASABI DIYAN NA ANG ESPIRITU AY ANG ATING PAGKATAO. HA, HA, HA...

    [P.S. paano yan Priest Abe, pinaliwanag ko ang 1 talata ng Bibliya ng 1 talata di gaya mo na sarili mong paliwanag.]

    PALPAK ANG PALIWANAG MO. HA, HA, HA... DAHIL ANG MGA TALATA MO AY HINDI SUMUSUPORTA SA IYONG MGA CLAIMS.

    [kasi malinaw na ang aklat ng DIOS ay dapat saliksikin ang sagot mismo rin sa aklat (Isaias 34:16)]

    KAYA NGA SALIKSIKIN MONG MABUTI PARA HINDI KA UTO-UTO SA MGA IMBENTONG ARAL NI MAMA ELI. HA, HA, HA....

    [Katunayang walang purgatoryo ay walang parabula na nasabi si Jesus patungkol dito.]

    MERONG PURGATORIO KASO BULAG KA LANG TANGGAPIN ANG ARAL NA ITO. PERO KAPAG PINATUWAD KA NI MAMA ELI SA SIKATAN NG ARAW TUMUTUWAD KA NA PARANG MUSLIM KAHIT WALANG NAKASAAD SA BIBLIA NA DAPAT TUMUWAD SA SIKATAN NG ARAW TUWING SASAMBA.

    [Ang mababasa ay tungkol sa paghuhukom na mapupunta sa langit o impiyerno ang mga tao.]

    WALANG MABABASA NA SA HULING PAGHUHUKOM LAMANG MAKAKAPASOK SA LANGIT ANG MGA NAMATAY NA MGA BANAL AT MABUBUTI. WALA. NILOLOKO KA LANG NI MAMA ELI.

    [kung meron, pakilagay nga at baka mapaniwala mo ako then babalik ulit ako sa Inang Simbahan.]

    MALALA NA PALA ANG ISIP MO E. E DI PUMUNTA KA DUON SA POST KO ON PURGATORY AT DUON MO QUESTIONIN ANG MGA TALATANG BINIGAY NAMIN. BAKIT DITO KA NAGTATANONG NG PURGATORIO. HE, HE, HE... E LIFE AFTER DEATH ANG ISSUE RITO.

    KE BUMALIK KA O HINDI E HINDI KA NAMIN KAILANGAN. AYAW NAMIN NG MGA BALIW AT MAKITID ANG ISIP SA INANG SIMBAHAN. NASA INANG SIMBAHAN KA NA E LUMIPAT KA PA SA IGLESIA NG MGA TALIPANDAS.

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  14. Magandang araw po Padre. Wala po talaga tayong mapapala kung dadaanan natin ANG DATING DAAN NA NILAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO.

    -RCCKnight

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  15. Dear Bro. Isahel,

    The issue of the Johannine Comma is not a problem for us Catholics because even if it is not considered as a part of the Scriptures it is clearly part of our SACRED TRADITION.

    However, for us Catholics that verse is truly part of the Word of God because the Latina Vulgata and the Douay-Rheims contained it. But the NAB and the JB did not because the major Greek manuscripts do not contain them. However, the Truth that the passage contain is TRUE for us Catholics and is apostolic in origin.

    Now let me share to you this beautiful study concerning support for the authenticity of the Johannine Comma. It proves beyond any doubt that the verse is part of the SACRED TRADITION OF THE CHURCH:

    It is not true that 1 John 5:7 is absent in all pre-l6th century Greek manuscripts and New Testament translations. The text is found in eight extant Greek manuscripts, and five of them are dated before the 16th century (Greek miniscules 88, 221, 429, 629, 636). Furthermore, there is abundant support for 1 John 5:7 from the Latin translations. There are at least 8000 extant Latin manuscripts, and many of them contain 1 John 5:7f; the really important ones being the Old Latin, which church fathers such as Tertullian (AD 155-220) and Cyprian (AD 200-258) used. Now, out of the very few Old Latin manuscripts with the fifth chapter of First John, at least four of them contain the Comma. Since these Latin versions were derived from the Greek New Testament, there is reason to believe that 1 John 5:7 has very early Greek attestation, hitherto lost. There is also reason to believe that Jeromes Latin Vulgate (AD 340-420), which contains the Johannine Comma, was translated from an untampered Greek text he had in his possession and that he regarded the Comma to be a genuine part of First John. Jerome in his Prologue to the Canonical Epistles wrote, "Irresponsible translators left out this testimony [i. e., 1 John 5:7f] in the Greek codices." Edward F. Hills concluded, "It was not trickery that was responsible for the inclusion of the Johannine Comma in the Textus Receptus, but the usage of the Latin speaking church."

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  16. WISDOM DAW NI MAMA ELI AT NI DANIEL RAZON. HA, HA, HA... HABANG TUMATAGAL AY DUMADAMI ANG RECORDS NG MGA CONTRADICTIONS SA PINAGSASABI NI MAMA ELI. SI KUYA DANIEL NAMAN AY DUWAG... PATABAING GUYA. NAGHIHINTAY LANG NA MAMATAY SI MAMA ELI PARA MANAHIN ANG CORONA NG MS. UNIVERSE. KAHIT NA INUTIL SA DEBATE AT HINDI LUMALABAS SA TV AT RADIO PARA MANGARAL. HA, HA, HA...

    ANG WISDOM NI DANIEL AY WISDOM SA SHOWBIZ AT BUSINESS. HA, HA, HA...

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  17. face bro.eli soriano..
    he is open, punta lang po kayo sa bible exposition.. malay niyo tama kayo? hehehe
    face him po.. then learn!

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  18. BUANG KA PALA E. NASA TV LANG SI MAMA ELI DUON E. NASA MALAYO. HA, HA, HA...

    HINDI YON FACE TO FACE. DAPAT HARAPAN. MUKHAAN. TINDIGAN. FORMAL DEBATE. MAY RULES. MAY MODERATOR.

    BAKIT DUWAG BA SI MAMA ELI MO AT NAGTATAGO SA IBANG BANSA? HA, HA, HA... PANG BOBO LANG IYANG MGA BIBLE EXPOSITION NIYA. KUNG TALAGANG MAGALING E LALABAN NG HARAPAN. DAHIL ANG MGA DEBATISTA NG MGA CATOLICO AT IGLESIA E NAGHAHARAP TALAGA.

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  19. Father may tanong po sa akin ang ibang sekta eto po ay kung "pwede bang batayan ng doktrina ang isang parable?"

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  20. KUNG PARABLE NI JESUS O PARABLE SA BIBLE PWEDE KASI SALITA YON NG DIOS. YUNG PARABLE NG IBANG TAO HINDE.

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