Pope John Paul the Great and a Moslem leader
- Why did the Pope (John Paul II) kissed the Koran? Is he recognizing the legitimacy of the Koran and all the teachings contained therein.? I can't find any justifiable reason about what he did. It was a very shameful thing and a slap on the Church as the true Church of Jesus. Another mistaken move in the name of extreme and false ecumenism! Ecumenism means inviting all people to the unity of the Catholic Faith not compromising the truths of the Faith for the sake of superficial unity!
- Fr. Abe, CRS said...
- [Why did the Pope (John Paul II) kissed the Koran?]
- BECAUSE IT WAS OFFERED TO HIM TO BE KISSED. IF HE REFUSED HE WOULD HAVE INSULTED HIS HOSTS. THE POPE DID IT AS A SIGN OF RESPECT TO THE MOSLEMS WHO LOVE THAT BOOK BUT OF COURSE, THE MOSLEMS KNOW THAT THE POPE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE KORAN.
- [Is he recognizing the legitimacy of the Koran and all the teachings contained therein.?]
- DEFINITELY NOT.
- THE POPE WENT TO THE COUNTRY HE WAS VISITING THEN TO STRENGTHEN THE FAITH OF THE CATHOLICS. BESIDES THE POPE WEARS THE CROSS AND HIS VERY PERSON IS A MANIFESTATION OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH. JOHN PAUL THE GREAT LIVED AND DIED A CATHOLIC UNLIKE LEFEBVRE WHO LIVED AND DIED AN EXCOMMUNICATED BASTARD.
- THE POPE ENGAGED THE MOSLEMS IN DIALOGUES BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO LESSEN THE TENSIONS BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLES AND TO SHOW HIS GOODWILL LIKE THE LORD JESUS WHO SPEAKS WITH THE SAMARITANS OR THE PHARISEES OR THE MEMBERS OF THE SANHEDRIN THE POPE IS ALSO ENGAGING IN DIALOGUE WITH OTHERS. UNLIKE LEFEBVRE WHO WAS USELESS AND NEVER FACED ISLAM FOR DIALOGUES. HE WAS LIKE ANNAS AND CAIAPHAS WHO WERE SO ARROGANT ON OTHERS.
- IF THE SSPX ARE AGAINST ISLAM THEN LET THEM FACE THE MOSLEMS FAIRLY AND SQUARELY AND REJECT THE KORAN RIGHT ON THEIR FACES. LET ME SEE IF THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO SO.
- [I can't find any justifiable reason about what he did.]
- YOU CAN'T FIND ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOVE IN YOUR HEART AND YOU ARE NOT IN THE POSITION OF THE POPE WHO WANTED TO END WARS BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLES.
- THE SSPX ARE ONLY GOOD IN SOWING HATE BUT A FAILURE IN UNDERSTANDING ACTS OF LOVE AND GENEROSITY. THEY ARE ALWAYS BITTER IN ECUMENISM, IN LITURGY... IN EVERYTHING. THEY ARE THE MODERN DAY PHARISEES WHO DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY GOOD IN OTHERS EXCEPT WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT.
- THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT ACT IS THE DIVINE COMMAND OF "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR". IF YOUR FRIENDS LOVE A BOOK SO MUCH THAT THEY CONSIDER IT SACRED, THEN AT LEAST OUT OF FRIENDSHIP SHOW RESPECT ON THAT BOOK, OR HIS SHOES, OR HIS MOTHER, OR HIS GARDEN... EVERYTHING THAT YOUR FRIENDS LOVE YOU WILL LOVE EVEN THOUGH IN MANY OCCASIONS YOU DISAGREE WITH THOSE THINGS...
- [It was a very shameful thing and a slap on the Church as the true Church of Jesus.]
- IT WAS NOT SHAMEFUL. IT WAS A FRIENDLY GESTURE, A MANIFESTATION OF RESPECT OF OTHERS. DEFINITELY IT WAS NOT A SLAP ON THE CHURCH BECAUSE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT ENERGIZED THE CHURCH AND STRENGTHENED IT MORE THAN YOU DO.THERE IS NO POPE IN HISTORY WHO GATHERED AND TALKED TO THE YOUTH OF THE WORLD THE WAY JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DID. BESIDES, OTHER POPES NEVER ENCOUNTERED THAT SITUATION BECAUSE THEY SIMPLY SCRATCH THEIR BACKS INSIDE THE VATICAN AND NEVER WENT OUT TO VISIT EVERY NATIONS AND PEOPLES AND CULTURES OF THE WORLD AS JOHN PAUL THE GREAT, PAUL VI AND BENEDICT XVI DID. AMONG THEM ALL JOHN PAUL THE GREAT WAS THE GREATEST MISSIONARY POPE. NOT EVEN ST. PAUL COULD EQUAL WHAT HE DID PRACTICALLY FOR THE MISSIONS OF THE CHURCH.
- ARE YOU AWARE THAT UNDER THE DYNAMIC LEADERSHIP OF JOHN PAUL THE GREAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH INCREASED BY MORE THAN 100 MILLION IN AFRICA ALONE AND WE DEFEATED THE MOSLEMS IN NUMBER OF CONVERSIONS IN THAT CONTINENT?
- AFTER THE GULF WARS IT WAS EASY FOR THE MOSLEMS TO DECLARE WAR AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BUT THROUGH THE ECUMENICAL EFFORTS OF POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT THE TENSION DIDN'T TURN INTO A FULL CLASH OF TWO RELIGIONS.
- JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DID THAT WHILE THE SSPX LEADERSHIP WERE SILENT AND USELESS.
- [Another mistaken move in the name of extreme and false ecumenism!]
- THE FALSE ECUMENISM IS REFUSAL OF DIALOGUE. THAT IS NOT CATHOLIC THAT IS SATANIC. THAT IS INHUMAN.
- THE SSPX AND THE ULTRA TRADITIONAL ARE ANGRY AT THAT BECAUSE THE POPE SHOWED TOO MUCH GOODWILL. A KIND OF GOODWILL THAT IS ABSENT IN THEIR HEARTS. THEY ARE ANGRY BECAUSE THE POPE HAS EXCEEDED THEIR CRITERION OF GOODNESS AND PEACE.
- [Ecumenism means inviting all people to the unity of the Catholic Faith not compromising the truths of the Faith for the sake of superficial unity!]
- THE POPE NEVER COMPROMISED. NEVER EVER. SHOWING KINDNESS IS NOT COMPROMISING. IT IS CALLED 'CHARITY' AND IT COMES FROM THE THEOLOGY OF THE CROSS.
- BESIDES, JOHN PAUL II CONVERTED MORE PEOPLE TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH MORE THAN THE EXCOMMUNICATED REBEL LEFEBVRE.
- READ THE CONVERSION STORIES OF FORMER PROTESTANTS AND ATHEISTS WHO CONVERTED TO THE FAITH THEY SHOWER JOHN PAUL THE GREAT WITH PRAISES AND GRATITUDE FOR HELPING THEM FIND THE TRUTH IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. WE NOVUS ORDO PEOPLE ARE THE ONES CONVERTING THE HERETICS BACK TO THE CATHOLIC FOLD NOT THE SSPX.
- WHEN JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DIED THE MOSLEM LEADERS INCLUDING THOSE OF SYRIA AND IRAN AND PAKISTAN CAME TO PAY HOMAGE. IT MEANS THAT THE FRIENDSHIP IS REAL. WHEN LEFEBVRE DIED NOT EVEN THE BIRDS WEEP. WHEN JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DIED THE WHOLE WORLD CRIED EXCEPT THE EVIL HEARTS OF SSPX AND THE SEDEVACANTISTS.
- YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT READING THE CONVERSION STORIES OF HUNDREDS AND EVEN THOUSANDS OF PROTESTANT MINISTERS AND PASTORS CONVERTING TO THE CHURCH. YOU ONLY LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH AND BLAME IT ON THE POPE EXCEPT YOURSELVES.
- THANK GOD FOR JOHN PAUL THE GREAT. JOHN PAUL II WE LOVE YOU! JOHN PAUL II WE LOVE YOU! JOHN PAUL II WE LOVE YOU!
- VIVA EL PAPA! DOWN WITH THE SSPX ANIMALS - HERETICS AND SCHISMATICS.
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[Why did the Pope (John Paul II) kissed the Koran?]
ReplyDeleteKAILANGAN BA NAMAN PATI ITO ITANONG PA? SIMPLE LANG NAMAN ANG SAGOT NYAN!!
SAPAGKAT SI POPE JOHN PAUL II AY RUMERESPETO SA MGA KAPATID NATING MUSLIM!!
HINDI SYA KATULAD NG IBANG MINISTRO AT MGA PASTOR NA AKALA MO KUNG SINONG UMASTA!! TINGNAN NYO ANG GINAWA NI INGKONG ELI SA MGA KAPATID NA MUSLIM AT KAY MUHAMMAD?! KASI ANG HINDI MARUNONG RUMESPETO SA PANINIWALA NG IBA AY MGA WALANGHIYA!! PATI PRIVACY PAKIKIALAMAN KA PA!! TO THE POINT NA IHA-HACK PA ANG ACCOUNT MO!! NAKOW, MAGBAGO NA KAYO MGA ALAGAD NI SATANAS!! FEELING NYO MALILIGTAS KAYO SA GINAGAWA NYO?!! LALO NYO LANG PINAPABIGAT ANG PARUSA NYO MGA ULUPONG!!!
Did John Paul II taught about Q'ran? He did not. CHeck out the vatican website and see if he preached about Q'ran
ReplyDeleteIf Saint Paul..St. Peter..or the First Apostles of Christ were in that position..
ReplyDeleteAre they going to do the same thing?
YES, THEY WILL DO THE SAME THING. ST. PETER AND ST. PAUL WERE STRONG AGAINST THE ENEMIES OF THE CHURCH BUT THEY WERE KIND AND GENTLE TO JEWS AND GENTILES WHO WERE INVITING THEM IN PEACE AND IN CHARITY.
ReplyDeleteTHEY ARE NOT LIKE THE SSPX WHO ARE FULL OF PRIDE AND ARE REJECTING OTHERS. THEY WILL FOLLOW JESUS WHO WAS SO KIND AND UNDERSTANDING TO OTHERS.
sa pananaw ko po hindi gagawin nila peter, paul ang paghalik sa quran kung alam po nila na ito po ay puno ng kasinungalingan tungol po kay Jesus.
ReplyDeleteang paghalik po ba ay simbolo ng pagrespeto na kung alam po ng mga muslim na hindi naniniwala ang mga tunay na christian sa quran?
kung pakainin din po natin ng baboy ang ating mga bisitang muslim kakainin din ba nila nito bilang respeto? o isa po itong insulto sa kanila na pakainin sila ng baboy?
[sa pananaw ko po hindi gagawin nila peter, paul ang paghalik sa quran kung alam po nila na ito po ay puno ng kasinungalingan tungol po kay Jesus.]
ReplyDeleteNIRERESPETO KO ANG PANANAW MO. SUBALIT RESPETUHIN MO RIN ANG PANANAW NG IBA.
ANG SUCCESSOR NI ST. PETER AY HINDI IKAW AT HINDI RIN AKO. ANG SUCCESSOR NIYA AY ANG SANTO PAPA. OFFICIALLY, THE ONE WHO CAN SPEAK FOR ST. PETER AY HINDI IKAW O AKO KUNDI ANG SANTO PAPA.
PLEASE BEAR IN MIND NA ANG ATING PANGINOONG JESUS AY NAKIHALUBILO SA MGA MAKASALANAN AT SA MGA TAONG PARA SA MENTALIDAD NG MARAMI AY HINDI DAPAT SAMAHAN AT KAIBIGANIN. KAYA NAMAN ANG ATING MGA SANTO PAPA AY HINDI CLOSE MINDED SA RELATIONSHIP SA IBANG MGA CULTURES AND RELIGIONS BUT RESPECTFUL.
[ang paghalik po ba ay simbolo ng pagrespeto na kung alam po ng mga muslim na hindi naniniwala ang mga tunay na christian sa quran?]
YES, ANG PAGHALIK AY TANDA NG RESPETO. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS AN ADULTERER. SHE IS A BEST FRIEND FROM HIGH SCHOOL DAYS. EVERY TIME SHE SEES ME SHE HUGS AND KISS ME LIKE A BROTHER. BUT I DISAGREE WITH HER ON HER ADULTEROUS RELATIONSHIP. WHEN I RETURN HER FRIENDLY GESTURE THAT IS A SIGN OF RESPECT TO HER PERSON BUT NOT AN ACCEPTANCE OF HER FAULTS.
IT IS NOWHERE AGREED UPON THAT WHEN YOU KISS A THING OR SOMEONE IT MEANS THAT YOU UPHELD EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING ERRONEOUS IN THAT PERSON OR THING. O NO, NO, NO... DON'T PUT MALICE IN THE CHARITABLE ACT.
[kung pakainin din po natin ng baboy ang ating mga bisitang muslim kakainin din ba nila nito bilang respeto?]
WE ARE THE CHRISTIANS. THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. WE DO NOT GIVE CHARITY AND EXPECT OTHERS TO DO THE SAME TO YOU.
THE POPE DIDN'T FORCE THEM TO KISS THE BIBLE OR TO EAT PORK. BUT WHEN THE POPE CALLED THEM TO OPPOSE ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTION IN CAIRO CONFERENCE THE MOSLEM COUNTRIES RESPONDED POSITIVELY WHILE THE CHRISTIAN PRESIDENTS AND PRIME MINISTERS DISOBEYED THE POPE. BECAUSE OF THE MOSLEM SUPPORTS THE UNITED NATIONS FAILED TO IMPOSE ABORTIONS AND CONTRACEPTION IN CAIRO AND BEIJING CONFERENCES.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE SSPX AND SOME ULTRA TRADITIONAL THEY DO NO LOOK AT THINGS IN WIDER PERSPECTIVE.
MUCH MORE DURING THE GULF WAR, THE POPE SUCCESSFULLY GATHERED THE MOSLEM LEADERS IN ASSISI TO PRAY WITH JEWISH RABBI AND THE POPE. SO THAT THE MUCH FEARED 'CLASH OF FAITH' DIDN'T MATERIALIZE AND THE TALIBAN FAILED TO CONVINCE MOST OF THE ARAB WORLD TO SUCCUMB TO THEIR TOTALLY ANTI-WEST AND ANTI-CHRISTIAN AGENDA.
[o isa po itong insulto sa kanila na pakainin sila ng baboy?]
YES. THAT IS WHY OUR CHRISTIAN CHARITY DEMANDS US NOT TO OFFER PORK TO MOSLEMS BUT WHEN THEY OFFER US FOOD ON TABLE WE EAT THEM BECAUSE OUR CHRISTIAN LAW IS MORE UNDERSTANDING.
NOW, DO YOU WANT TO THINK LIKE MOSLEMS OR TO THINK LIKE CHRIST? ACT AND THINK LIKE A CHRISTIAN.
catholics really originated from the union of catholicism and paganism. the first catholic emperor wanted to have a bigger religion, so he enticed the pagan romans to join the newly formed catholic church then.
Deletecatholicism is indeed the RELIGIOUS PROSTITUTE mentioned in the Bible.
don't tell us that respect is the main issue here.
what did Jesus do when there were vendors in the church? didn't he drive them out for His Father's glory and not thinking of "respecting" the vendors?
what did Jesus say to the pharisees every time they criticized Him?
let me remind you about the INQUISITION -- when the roman catholics killed thousands of people who refused to join the catholic church? was there any RESPECT for people?
we respect the muslims.
but showing respect to the muslims does not need to kiss their koran.
you better read the koran, then you will understand why IT COMPLETELY OPPOSES the Bible.
you also better read the Bible -- for you to understand why we should not accept the authority of their god which the koran was dedicated.
REMEMBER TO LOVE (OUR LIVING) GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND - matthew 22:37
hindi pamumulitika!
napaka modernist ang sagot...hahay...
ReplyDeletedi ko po alam kong paano nanging successor ng pope si peter o si paul pero hindi po ito importante sa akin. ang mas mahalaga po ay ang moralidad sa paghalik sa quran.
ReplyDeletewala rin pong problema sa pakikihalubilo sa lahat ng tao kasama po dyan ang mga makasalanan tulad ko. kahit po hindi kayo pope ay alam naman siguro ninyo na ang quran ay ang pangunahing kasangkapan ng mga muslim sa kanilang paniniwala. paniniwalang iba ang sinasabi tungkol sa Jesus na nasa bible.
halimbawa po may kaibigan kayong gumagamit ng bawal na gamot. siguro po mahal ninyo ang inyong kaibigan pero kung pakitaan po kayo ng sangkadamak na bawal na gamot bibigyan po ba ninyo siya ng magandang paglagyan o ano pa man para sa kanyang bawal na gamot bilang respeto sa kanya kahit po hindi kayo gumagamit?
tama po na isang insulto sa kanila kung maghain tayo ng baboy pero kahit po muslim sila ay alam po nila ang tumanggi sa alam nilang marumi.
[di ko po alam kong paano nanging successor ng pope si peter o si paul]
ReplyDeleteAKO RIN HINDI KO ALAM KUNG SAAN MO NAKUHA YAN DAHIL HINDI YAN ANG SINULAT KO KUNDI ITO:
"ANG SUCCESSOR NI ST. PETER AY HINDI IKAW AT HINDI RIN AKO. ANG SUCCESSOR NIYA AY ANG SANTO PAPA. OFFICIALLY, THE ONE WHO CAN SPEAK FOR ST. PETER AY HINDI IKAW O AKO KUNDI ANG SANTO PAPA."
MALINAW ANG TINUKOY KO NA ANG SANTO PAPA ANG SUCCESSOR NI ST. PETER AT HINDI SI ST. PETER ANG SUCCESSOR NG POPE. BINALIGTAD MO E.
[pero hindi po ito importante sa akin. ang mas mahalaga po ay ang moralidad sa paghalik sa quran.]
HINDI KO ALAM KUNG ANONG KLASENG MORALIDAD MERON KA KASI PATI ANG MABUTI AY MINAMASAMA MO.
[wala rin pong problema sa pakikihalubilo sa lahat ng tao kasama po dyan ang mga makasalanan tulad ko.]
MABUTI NAMAN. KUNG ANG TAONG MAKASALANAN AY KAYA MONG PAKIHALUBIHAN BAKIT HINDI MO MATANGGAP ANG GINAWA NG PAPA NA PAGPAPAHAYAG NG PAGGALANG AT PAGMAMAHAL SA MGA MUSLIM AT SA KANILANG BANAL NA AKLAT.
[kahit po hindi kayo pope ay alam naman siguro ninyo na ang quran ay ang pangunahing kasangkapan ng mga muslim sa kanilang paniniwala. paniniwalang iba ang sinasabi tungkol sa Jesus na nasa bible.]
ANO ANG GUSTO MONG GAWIN NG POPE DURAAN YUNG BIBLE? SUMAMA KA SAKIN KAPAG INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE AT PAHAHARAPIN KITA SA MGA IMAMS. TAPOS PAG NASA HARAP MO NA ANG AKLAT NA PARA SA KANILA AY BANAL DURAAN MO O ITAPON MO. ANO ANG MANGYAYARI?
ANG INIISIP MO LANG ANG PANANAW MO. ANG PAPA HINDI MAKITID ANG ISIP. TINITIGNAN NYA ANG BAGAY NA IYON AS A GESTURE OF PEACE AND OF LOVE. KASI HE IS DEVELOPING A CULTURE OF MUTUAL RESPECT. KAYA NGA HANGGANG NGAYON PINASASABUGAN ANG MGA TREN, EROPLANO, SUBWAYS ALL OVER THE WORLD PERO HINDI ANG VATICAN CITY BAKIT? KASI EPEKTO YON NG GOOD WILL NG POPE.
KUNG ANG PAPA AY MAKITID ANG ISIP MATAGAL NANG NAGKAROON NG MADUGONG RELASYON ANG MGA MUSLIM AT KRISTIANO SA PANAHON NATIN.
MADALI LANG NAMAN MAGTAPANG TAPANGAN KUNO AT IREJECT ANG MGA MOSLEMS PATI ANG QUR'AN. SA YO MADALI KASI WALA KA SA CAMERA AT SA MEDIA. KUNG IKAW AY SANTO PAPA MAS MATAAS AND MORAL DEMAND KESA SA IYO.
[halimbawa po may kaibigan kayong gumagamit ng bawal na gamot.]
ANG KAIBIGAN NG POPE NA NAG-ANYAYA SA KANYA AY ISANG PEACE LOVING AND FRIENDLY AND HIGHLY RESPECTED MUSLIM LEADER. HINDI DRUG ADDICT.
[siguro po mahal ninyo ang inyong kaibigan pero kung pakitaan po kayo ng sangkadamak na bawal na gamot bibigyan po ba ninyo siya ng magandang paglagyan o ano pa man para sa kanyang bawal na gamot bilang respeto sa kanya kahit po hindi kayo gumagamit?]
ANG QUR'AN AY HINDI ILLEGAL DRUGS. ITO AY RELIGIOUS BOOK NA MINAMAHAL NG MAHIGIT ISANG BILYONG TAO.
[tama po na isang insulto sa kanila kung maghain tayo ng baboy pero kahit po muslim sila ay alam po nila ang tumanggi sa alam nilang marumi.]
KUNG ITINUTURING MONG MARUMI ANG QUR'AN BAKIT HINDI KA MAGLAGAY NG PUBLIC CAMPAIGN TO DESTROY AND BURN IT? BAKIT HINDI MO ITO SIRAIN AT UDYUKAN ANG GOBIERNO NA SIRAIN ANG MGA ITO?
MAGALING KA LANG MAGSALITA NG GANYAN KASI NAGTATAGO KA. ANG SANTO PAPA AY HINDI NAGTATAGO, SIYA AY TAONG NAKAHARAP SA MGA LIDER NG ISLAM AT NAKIKIPAG-USAP. MADALI LANG MAGTAPANG TAPANGAN AT MAGDUNONG DUNUNGAN DAHIL ANONYMOUS KA. REVEAL YOUR IDENTITY AND SAY THAT PARA MALAMAN MO ANG MORAL, SOCIAL, RELIGIOUS AT SPIRITUAL IMPLICATION NG IYONG PANANAW.
[napaka modernist ang sagot...hahay...]
ReplyDeletePWEDE BA. WAG MONG IPAKITA SA AKIN ANG KATANGAHAN MO KUNG ANO ANG MODERNISM.
MODERNISM IS THE HERESY REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH ON MATTERS OF FAITH AND MORALS. HERE, I AM DEFENDING THE POPE AGAINST THE SELF-PROCLAIMED MORALISTS WHO ARE HIDING IN ANONYMITY LIKE THE MODERNISTS OF OLD.
KUNG ANG PAPA AY MAKITID ANG ISIP MATAGAL NANG NAGKAROON NG MADUGONG RELASYON ANG MGA MUSLIM AT KRISTIANO SA PANAHON NATIN.
ReplyDeletematagal naman talaga may madugong relasyon ang muslim at Christians. look at history, battles are left and right.. so makitid ang mga utak nga mga Popes dati?
[matagal naman talaga may madugong relasyon ang muslim at Christians. look at history, battles are left and right.. so makitid ang mga utak nga mga Popes dati?]
ReplyDeleteIF THE MOSLEMS WILL ATTACK EUROPE MILITARILY AS THEY DID IN LEPANTO THEN WE ARE MORALLY COMPELLED TO DEFEND OUR TERRITORIES. BUT IF THEY ARE INVITING US IN PEACE THERE IS NO NEED TO ATTACK MILITARILY.
kikitid talaga ng mga utak ng mga add, inc, born again n yan.
ReplyDelete@anonymous
duraan ang Qur'an? Cge subukan nyo, tpos i reveal mo identity mo dito.
I'm kind of scared to comment. I am not a supporter of the S.S.P.X. but I would not refer to them as dogs or animals. We have to even show our enemies love. The current Holy Father is working to reconcile the S.S.P.X. and the Vatican, and I hope he is successful. I support our Holy Father and was loyal to Pope John Paul II as well. But the S.S.P.X. deserve the same ecuminism as the Muslims and other non-Catholics, I hope.
ReplyDeleteHOW CAN THEY DESERVE SOMETHING THAT THEY HATE?
ReplyDeletefr. http://www.zimdiaspora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5271:michael-jackson-is-in-hell-pope-john-paul-ii-is-not-in-heaven-either&catid=73:music&Itemi What can you say about that, states that PJP II is on hell??? fr.. idon't believe .
ReplyDeleteTska fr. I had a frnd ask to me kung si satan daw nkakagawa ng miracle so pwd daw na ang mga saint "kuno" na na-ongoing trough canonization ay gawa gawa lng di-umano po ng evil? tska papanu daw po nakakashure ang katoliko na ang mga saints ay nasa heaven na ?? and praying and helping us? FR PLS ANSWER ME,SO THAT I CAN DEFEND OUR FAITH GOD BLESS
TIGNAN MO ANG KAWALANG HIYAAN NANG MGA BORN AGAIN NA IYAN. SABI NILA HINDI DAW TAYO SURE NA NASA HEAVEN ANG MGA SAINTS. E BAKIT ANG KAPAL NG MUKA NILANG SABIHIN NA NASA HELL SI POPE JOHN PAUL II? DI BA PROOF LANG IYAN NA MGA IPOCRITO SILA.
ReplyDeleteMAY POWER ANG CHURCH NATIN NA SABIHIN KUNG SINO ANG NASA LANGIT DAHIL SA ATIN IPINAGKALOOB ANG SUSI NG KAHARIAN NG LANGIT. KAY SAN PEDRO ITO IPINAGKALOOB ANG FIRST POPE NG CATHOLIC CHURCH.
The Holy Qur'an comments on how Christians and Jews battle on who is on the right side. The Jews say that Mary was a whore and Jesus was the result of this. The Christians invent all activities to promote ecumenism but they "hate" each other! Jesus, the son of Mary, (whom Christians adore as God!) would be happy to be recognized as bastard (Jews) while the Christians "hate each other" as they continue Jesus' message of love??? Poor Jesus, crucified once again by people like you!
ReplyDeleteAllahu akbar!
-- Abdullah Bou Farahi
THE MOORS WERE THE ONE WHO CONQUERED JERUSALEM AND MURDERED THE CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND ANNIHILATED THEM. THEN THEY TRIED TO EXTERMINATE THE CHRISTIANS IN EUROPE THROUGH SPAIN AND FRANCE.
ReplyDeleteNOW, THE MOSLEMS ARE FAMOUS FOR THEIR TERRORISTS ACTS.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF JESUS.
nakakalito naman ang santo papa,,,,d ko alam kung ano ang totoo
ReplyDeleteHINDI NAKAKALITO ANG SANTO PAPA. ANG KALITUHAN AY NASA IYONG PAG-IISIP. ANG GINAWA NG PAPA AY ACT OF CHARITY, EXPRESSION OF LOVE OF NEIGHBOR. WALA SIYANG SINABI NA TAMA ANG QUR'AN. DON'T STRETCH YOUR IMAGINATION BEYOND WHAT IS A SIMPLE GESTURE OF PEACE EXTENDED BY THE POPE.
ReplyDeletePARENG NAGTATANONG, ANONG GUSTO MONG GAWIN NI POPE NOON? SUNUGIN YUNG QUR'AN GAYA NUNG GINAWA NUNG PASTOR NA PROTESTANTE SA AMERIKA?
ReplyDeletePURO KAYO BATIKOS....
(ISAGANI DURANGO)
BUTI KA PA BRO. ISAGANI MAY UTAK. SILA WALANG LAMAN ANG KUKOTE. MAKITID ANG MGA ISIP. YUNG KABAITAN NG PAPA E MINAMASAMA PA.
ReplyDeleteSALAMAT PO PADRE
ReplyDeleteHEHE NAGKABABASAG YUNG FLOWER VASE AT PIGURIN SA TABI KASI LUMAKI YUNG ULO KO SA SINABI NIYO, HEHE..
ANG PROBLEMA PO KASI DITO SA MGA ITO EH PURO BATIKOS PALIBHASA EH HINDI SILA YUNG NASA GANOONG SITWASYON,
HALIMBAWA, MAY ISANG KAIBIGAN KA NA LUMAKI SA ISANG PAMILYANG MAPAMAHIIN. YUNG KAIBIGAN MO E INIMBITAHAN KA SA SALU-SALO. DAHIL KAIBIGAN MO TUTUGON KA SA IMBITASYON. PAG PUNTA MO SA TAHANAN MAY MGA PANINIWALA SILA NA DI MO MASAKYAN. PERO DAHIL BISITA KA AT PARA HINDI MO MASAKTAN ANG DAMDAMIN NG KAIBIGAN MO AT NG KANYANG PAMILYA GINAWA MO YUNG MGA BAGAY NA PINANINIWALAAN NILA. PERO ALAM MO SA SARILI MO NA HINDI TALAGA YON MAKAKA-APEKTO SA IYO.
AT KUNG INIISIP NG MGA ITO NA NAKAKATISOD (SOUNDS LIKE BORN AGAIN HUH) ANG GINAWA NI POPE EH SORRY KAYO KASI KAYO ANG DAPAT UMUNAWA KASI BAKA KUNG DI NIYA GINAWA YUN EH MASAKTAN ANG DAMDAMIN NG MGA MUSLIM AT LALO PANG MAGKAROON NG GAP ANG MGA MUSLIM AT KRISTIYANO.
KUNG NAKATAYO KA SA KABILANG PANIG NG ILOG AT NASA KABILANG PANIG NAMAN ANG MGA KAAWAY MO AT MAY MGA BATO KA, TATLO ANG PWEDE MONG PAGPILIAN NA PWEDE MONG GAWIN SA MGA BATO
UNA, IPANGBATO MO YUNG MGA BATO NA MERON KA
PANGALAWA, GUMAWA KA NA LANG NG PADER PARA DI MO NA SILA MAKITA O
PANGATLO, GUMAWA KA NG TULAY PARA SA PAGKAKASUNDO.
ANG SANTO PAPA AY GINAWA ANG PANGATLO.
ANG MGA HANGAL PANO KAYA GINAGAMIT ANG MGA BATO?
(ISAGANI DURANGO)
[catholics really originated from the union of catholicism and paganism. the first catholic emperor wanted to have a bigger religion, so he enticed the pagan romans to join the newly formed catholic church then.]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... VERY DISTORTED VIEW OF HISTORY. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS THE ONE THAT DEFEATED PAGANISM IN THE ENTIRE EUROPE AND TO ACCUSE US OF UNITING WITH PAGANISM IS A GROSS IGNORANCE.
THE FIRST ROMAN EMPEROR DESTROYED THE PAGAN TEMPLES IN FAVOR OF CHRISTIANITY AND PROMOTED THE CHURCH TO THE BEST OF HIS ABILITIES. IT WAS NOT THE EMPEROR WHO CONVERTED THE PAGANS BUT THEY WERE CONVERTED BY CATHOLIC MISSIONARIES WHO USED THE POWER OF THE WORD OF GOD TO DEFEAT PAGANISM. EVEN PRIOR TO THE CONVERSION OF THE FIRST CHRISTIAN EMPEROR THE CATHOLIC FAITH WAS PENETRATING THE ROMAN EMPIRE EVEN THOUGH WE SUFFERED ABOUT 200 YEARS OF PERSECUTIONS INCLUDING CRUCIFIXIONS, BEHEADINGS, BEING BURNED ALIVE AND FEEDING TO THE LIONS. YET INSTEAD OF DECREASING WE INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY AND IN TURNED VANQUISHED THE PAGAN ROME.
[catholicism is indeed the RELIGIOUS PROSTITUTE mentioned in the Bible.]
IF YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT THE WHORE OF BABYLON IS A CITY AND NOT A CHURCH. SO PLEASE STOP SPREADING YOUR STUPIDITY.
[don't tell us that respect is the main issue here.]
ReplyDeleteRESPECT IS THE MAIN ISSUE HERE. I'M TELLING YOU THAT.
[what did Jesus do when there were vendors in the church? didn't he drive them out for His Father's glory and not thinking of "respecting" the vendors?]
THE POPE ENTERED THE MOSQUE AND NOT THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM AND THE IMAM WHO SHOWED HIM THE QUR'AN WAS NOT A VENDOR BUT AN ISLAMIC SCHOLAR.
WHAT DID JESUS DO WITH NICODEMUS? WITH THE SAMARITAN WOMAN? HE TALKED TO THEM IN PEACE AND WITH RESPECT.
[what did Jesus say to the pharisees every time they criticized Him?]
THE MOSLEM SCHOLARS WHO MET THE POPE WERE NOT CRITICIZING JESUS. SO, DO YOU WANT THE POPE TO THROW THEM OUT OF THE MOSQUE LIKE VENDORS? ARE YOU STUPID TO SUGGEST THAT? TAKE NOTE, THE POPE WAS A GUEST IN THAT COUNTRY AND IN THAT MOSQUE. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT OK, GO ON. ENTER THAT MOSQUE AND DO IT. LET US SEE IF YOU WILL COME OUT ALIVE.
[let me remind you about the INQUISITION -- when the roman catholics killed thousands of people who refused to join the catholic church? was there any RESPECT for people?]
OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE AN IDIOT IN THE HISTORY OF INQUISITION. THE INQUISITION WAS NOT ENTIRELY A CATHOLIC PRACTICE BUT A SECULAR PRACTICE. AND IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE INQUISITION IT WAS A TRIAL WITH PRESENTATIONS OF EVIDENCE AND DEFENSE PANEL. IT WAS MADE UNDER THE RULE OF LAW PROPER OF THOSE TIMES. THOSE FOUND GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST THE COUNTRY WERE GIVEN THE DEATH PENALTY. ALL COUNTRIES OF THOSE TIMES WERE HAVING DEATH PENALTY. THE CAPITAL PUNISHMENTS WERE ONLY RECENTLY REMOVED IN MANY COUNTRIES.
[we respect the muslims.]
HYPOCRITE.
[but showing respect to the muslims does not need to kiss their koran.]
IF YOU DON'T NEED IT ITS UP TO YOU. BUT OUR POPE FELT THAT HE NEEDED TO DO IT TO SHOW EXTRAORDINARY MANIFESTATION OF FRIENDSHIP AND CHARITY AND GOOD WILL. DON'T IMPOSE YOUR PERSONAL CHOICE ON US.
[you better read the koran, then you will understand why IT COMPLETELY OPPOSES the Bible.]
THE POPE HIMSELF SAID SO. THE FACT THAT HE IS A CATHOLIC MEANS HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE KORAN OR ELSE HE BECAME THE AYATOLLAH OF IRAN. THE POPE KISSED THE KORAN TO SHOW GESTURE OF FRIENDSHIP AND RESPECT AND GOOD WILL TO HIS HOSTS. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.
[you also better read the Bible -- for you to understand why we should not accept the authority of their god which the koran was dedicated.]
I HAVE READ THE BIBLE MANY TIMES OVER AND I ARRIVED AT THE SAME CONCLUSION. BUT KISSING SOMETHING SO DEAR TO OTHER PEOPLE SUCH AS THEIR FACES AND THEIR BOOKS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISLAMIC THEOLOGY OF GOD BUT A SIMPLE ACT OF BENEVOLENCE. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU IS THAT YOU ARE LIKE A PHARISEE, YOU ARE SEEING EVIL EVEN IN GOOD ACTS.
[REMEMBER TO LOVE (OUR LIVING) GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND - matthew 22:37
hindi pamumulitika!]
THE POPE IS NOT A POLITICIAN BUT A MAN OF GOD AND A MAN OF PEACE. HE CAME TO THAT MOSQUE TO BRING THE PEACE OF CHRIST AND HE MANIFESTED IT BY HIS FRIENDLY AND LOVING GESTURE. IT WAS AN ACT OF CHARITY. UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO CHARITY IN YOUR HEART SO THAT YOU FAILED TO UNDERSTAND IT. SORRY FOR YOU.