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Hi Fr. Abe
Magtatanong lang po sana ako about the recent event na nangyari. This is about the Case of Mr. Celdran and the reproductive health bill.
As I browse the net po, I found out that there are many people who is supporting Mr. Celdran's stand on the health bill. As I read comments and reactions from people supporting him I got to know that many of them are catholics.
kasi many of the comments that i read ay ganito "I am catholic but I believe the church must not interfere with state affairs" o ganito po "I am catholic but I support the RH BIll". Now ganito po, kung ang Catholic church po ay tutol sa RH bill ano po ang mangyayari sa mga tao na sumusuporta sa bill na iyan? consider po ba sila na Catholic? kasi hindi naman po sila united with the church teachings?
Salamat po,, Godbless..
- Fr. Abe, CRS said...
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[Magtatanong lang po sana ako about the recent event na nangyari. This is about the Case of Mr. Celdran and the reproductive health bill.]
MR. CELDRAN VIOLATED OUR RIGHTS AS CATHOLICS TO WORSHIP FREELY AND PEACEFULLY. THE BISHOPS AND PRIESTS INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL WERE PEACEFUL AND ORDERLY AND WERE NOT ATTACKING ANYONE. HE CAME THERE JUST TO INSULT THEM AND IN TURN HE DESECRATED OUR SACRED TEMPLE.
HE IS FREE TO SHOUT AND TO EXPRESS HIMSELF BUT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT IN LUNETA AND NOT INSIDE MANILA CATHEDRAL. MR. CELDRAN HAS VIOLATED OUR RIGHT TO FREE WORSHIP.
[As I browse the net po, I found out that there are many people who is supporting Mr. Celdran's stand on the health bill.]
BECAUSE THEY ARE DECEIVED BY THE SECULARISTIC MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
[As I read comments and reactions from people supporting him I got to know that many of them are catholics.]
WELL, THEY COULD BE MOSTLY BORN AGAIN, PROTESTANTS AND INC BUT THEY PRETEND TO BE CATHOLICS IN ORDER TO MAKE IT APPEAR THAT THE CHURCH IS DIVIDED.
[kasi many of the comments that i read ay ganito "I am catholic but I believe the church must not interfere with state affairs"]
SINCE WHEN IT BECAME A STATE AFFAIR THE ACT OF PUTTING A CONDOM ON A MANS' SEXUAL ORGAN OR A WOMANS' GENITALS?
THAT IS NOT POLITICAL IT IS MORAL ISSUE. WELL, IF THEY WANT TO USE THEM LET THEM DO IT. WE CANNOT OPPOSE THOSE WHO WANT TO DO THOSE THINGS BUT THEY MUST NOT USE TAXPAYERS MONEY FOR THE RUBBERS THAT THEY PUT ON THEIR MOST SENSITIVE PARTS.
[o ganito po "I am catholic but I support the RH BIll".]
HE OR SHE IS A TRAITOR TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. ONE WITH A DISTORTED VIEW OF MORALITY AND SEXUALITY.
[Now ganito po, kung ang Catholic church po ay tutol sa RH bill ano po ang mangyayari sa mga tao na sumusuporta sa bill na iyan?]
THEY CAN DO IT IF THEY WANT IT. WE CANNOT OPPOSE THOSE WHO WANT IT. THAT'S FREEDOM. IF THEY WANT TO COMMIT SUICIDE OR STEALING HOW CAN WE STOP THEM? THE CHURCH HAS NO POLICE POWER.
BUT, THEY CANNOT USE OUR TAXES TO BUY CONTRACEPTIVES FOR THEIR OWN SEXUAL PLEASURES.
[consider po ba sila na Catholic?]
THEY ARE CONSIDERED AS CATHOLICS IN STATE OF GRAVE SIN AND AT THE SAME TIME DISOBEDIENT TO THE TEACHING MAGISTERIUM OF THE CHURCH.
[kasi hindi naman po sila united with the church teachings?]
IT MEANS THEY ARE TRAITOR TO THE CHURCH AND THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. BUT UNLESS FORMAL EXCOMMUNICATION IS HANDED OR THEY HAVE COMMITTED ACTS PUNISHABLE BY IMMEDIATE EXCOMMUNICATION SUCH AS ABORTION THEY ARE STILL CATHOLIC ALBEIT AN UNFAITHFUL ONE. THE EXCOMMUNICATION IS NOT EASILY HANDED KAHIT NA SA MGA TAONG MATINDI ANG KASALANAN. KAILANGAN ANG TAO MISMO ANG NAGPAPAKITA NA AYAW NA NIYANG MAGING CATOLICO DAHIL SA KANYANG TINUTURO O GINAGAWA.
[Salamat po,, Godbless..]
GOD BLESS YOU TOO.
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Fr. Abe tanung lang po, bakit po yung mga supporters ng communism na Catholic at followers ng Freemasonsry na Catholic automatically excommunicated?
ReplyDeleteBakit po ayaw gawin ito ng simbahan sa mga supporters ng RH bill na yan?
kailangan magkaisa na tayong mga natitirang loyal na catholics na labanan ang RH bill, sana di matuloy talaga... yaw ko matulad ang Pilipinas sa mga european countries masyadong liberated sa sex.. tapos marami parin abortion dun kahit uso ang gumagamit sa kanila ng contraceptives..
ReplyDeletetsk tsk tsaka nakakainis din talaga, masyado marahas ang pananalita ng mga proRH laban sa simbahan, protestants siguro mga yun.. kung catholic sila, umalis nalang silang mga traydor ..
Anonymous(Catholic) said "I am catholic but I believe the church must not interfere with state affairs."
ReplyDeleteOO NGA! PERO BILANG SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO NA PINANGGALINGAN NG PANANAMPALATAYA MO KAILANGAN MONG SUMUNOD SA SIMBAHAN! ANG SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO AY MERONG MORAL ASCENDANCY SA BAWAT NILALANG! SA BAWAT TAO! SA BAWAT BUHAY NA NASA SINAPUPUNAN! ANG MGA HINDI SUMUSUNOD SA ARAL NG SIMBAHAN AY MGA TAONG SUMUSUWAY SA DIYOS! KAYA NGA MERONG SIMBAHAN KASI ITO ANG VOICE OF GOD!(TAKE NOTE SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO LANG HA. HINDI KASAMA ANG MGA PROTESTANTE AT IGLESIA NG MGA TAMPALASAN!) TINGNAN MO NUNG PANAHON NG LUMANG TIPAN, KANINO PINADADALA NG DIYOS ANG KANYANG MENSAHE SA LIPI NG ISRAEL? SA MGA PROPETA! MGA TAONG NASA TEMPLO NA KATUMBAS NIYON SA PANAHON NATIN NGAYON AY ANG SANTO PAPA LANG AT HINDI SA MGA MINISTRO NI SATANAS!!
KATOLIKO KA? WELL, MAY FREE WILL KA.. KUNG SUSUNOD KA O HINDI PERO PAG DUMATING SA ATIN ANG SUMPA.. PASENSYAHAN NA LANG!!
PAHABOL PO FATHER:
ReplyDeleteHINDI OVER POPULATED ANG PILIPINAS!! KUNG OVER POPULATED TAYO E DI SANA NAKATAYO NA LANG TAYONG LAHAT SA 7,107 ISLANDS NG PILIPINAS! ANG PROBLEMA SA PILIPINAS... UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH!!
MGA PULITIKONG GARAPAL, MGA IGLESIANG GARAPAL SA PANGUNGURAKOT SA MIYEMBRO, MGA NEGOSYANTENG WALANG SELF-CONTENTMENT ETC.
SABI NGA NI BAMBOO.. "HABANG MAY TATSULOK AT SILA ANG NASA TUKTOK DI MATATAPOS ITONG GULO."
KAILANGAN LANG NATIN BALIKTARIN ANG TATSULOK KUNG KAYA NATIN..
I will support the catholic church in this fight! The church is my shepherd.. no to RH Bill!!!
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU. MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT BE UPON YOU. MAY THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY BLESS YOU.
ReplyDeletethis is outrage!
ReplyDelete($*% You RH Bill!
$%#@ You RH Bill!
Banzai!
aaahaaahhhh! @$&* You RH Bill!
lol
[Fr. Abe tanung lang po, bakit po yung mga supporters ng communism na Catholic at followers ng Freemasonsry na Catholic automatically excommunicated?
ReplyDeleteBakit po ayaw gawin ito ng simbahan sa mga supporters ng RH bill na yan?]
KASI ANG FREEMASONRY AY REJECTION OF OUR CATHOLIC GOD AND TOTAL REJECTION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE GOAL OF FREEMASONRY IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE CHURCH.
ANG MGA SA RH BILL, BAGAMAT GUSTO KONG PATAWAN NA SILA NG EXCOMMUNICATION, AY HINDI NAMAN BUONG BUO ANG REJECTION NG CHURCH. ILANG ASPETO LANG ANG HINDI SILA SUMASANG-AYON.
DAPAT MAG-ISIP NA ANG SIMBAHAN NG MAS MATINDING ACTION LABAN SA MGA TRAIDOR NA ITO.
WAG NATING KALIMUTAN ANG PANGALAN NG PASIMUNO NG RH BILL NA YAN.. SI CONG. EDCEL LAGMAN.. WAG NYONG PAG-AKSAYAHAN NG INK ANG PANGALAN NYA SA 2013!!
ReplyDeleteKUNG I-LIFESTYLE CHECK KAYA NATIN ITONG TUTA NI MADAM GLORIA NA ITO!!
KAPAL NG FACE!! DAPAT SYA ANG IEXCOMMUNICATE E!!
HINDI KO IPAGKAKATIWALA ANG KALULUWA KO SA EDCEL LAGMAN NA YAN. TUTA NG PAGNANAKAW NUONG NAKARAANG ADMINISTRASYON.
ReplyDeleteMAGKAKASANGGA YAN SILA NILA GLORIA!! LIFESTYLE CHECK DAPAT SA KANYA!!
ReplyDeleteHi Fr. Abe,
ReplyDeleteI'm not too familiar with the RH bill. I am a catholic, however, one of the things which I don't necessarily agree is the stand of the church against contraception. I believe every human being has a choice which is why God has given us free will, to make our own choice. The church is there to guide us in making sure that we make the "right" (according to the society's norms) choice. The Church should never dictate to the people what they should do as human nature would tell us, the more you try to control the people the more they will retaliate. Having said that, I'm not saying that the Church must approve of contraception, all I'm saying is that the Church must provide the people the choice. If the bill is there (sorry, I'm not too familiar with the bill), does that mean all the people will adopt it?It means, the people are given the choice.
In this entire saga, I'm just disappointed why the Church is reacting like this. They have said their point but I'm sure the Church has more pressing issues that she needs to solve too. This issue - population control, is not only a MORAL issue but a SOCIAL one which is why the government is trying to do something about it. Will the Church share the responsibility if more social problems are created if we don't try to curb the population explosion? I don't think so, at the end of the day, we blame it to the government, although I'm not saying they're not to be blamed, coz they also have faults. Be that as it may, I sincerely hope that the Church will stop bashing PNOY (or other Catholics)if he (they) support artificial contraception. At the end of the day, if the Church has really done a good job in inculcating to its people what is morally right, then the same people will do the right thing.
[Hi Fr. Abe,]
ReplyDeleteHELLO THERE.
[I'm not too familiar with the RH bill.]
I SUGGEST THAT YOU BE FAMILIAR WITH IT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF THE ILLEGAL ELEMENTS CONTAINED THEREIN.
[I am a catholic, however, one of the things which I don't necessarily agree is the stand of the church against contraception.]
IT IS A PITY THAT YOU CHOSE TO DISOBEY THE FAITH AND MORALS OF YOUR OWN CHURCH. A CATHOLIC IS ONE WHO BELEIVES AND PRACTICES HIS CATHOLIC FAITH NOT THE FAITH AND PRACTICES OF ABORTIONISTS AND ANTI-LIFE ADVOCATES.
IT PAINS ME THAT YOU CHOSE TO BE A TRAITOR TO THE CHURCH AND TO THE FAITH THAT ST. LORENZO RUIZ AND BLESSED PEDRO CALUNGSOD GAVE UP THEIR LIVES FOR.
[I believe every human being has a choice which is why God has given us free will, to make our own choice.]
IT IS TRUE THAT GOD GAVE US THE FREEDOM AND THE FREE WILL AND BECAUSE OF THEM WE DO HAVE A CHOICE. HOWEVER, GOD ALSO ASKED US TO CHOOSE WHAT IS GOOD AND AVOID WHAT IS EVIL. GOD DIDN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A FREE WILL WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT. BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A THING AS GOOD AND EVIL.
WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS EVIL? EVERYTHING THAT IS LIFE-GIVING, LIFE ENHANCING, LIFE-PROMOTING IS GOOD AND EVERY THING THAT DESTROYS, HARM AND PREVENT LIFE IS EVIL.
CONTRACEPTIVE IS EVIL BECAUSE IT PREVENTS LIFE.
[The church is there to guide us in making sure that we make the "right" (according to the society's norms) choice.]
ReplyDeleteWRONG.
THE CHURCH IS THERE TO GUIDE IS IN MAKING SURE THAT WE MAE THE "RIGHT" CHOICE ACCORDING TO THE NORM OF GOD... NOT OF THE SOCIETY. THE SOCIETY IS EASILY GOVERNED BY MOB RULE AND BY CAPRICES OF THE FEW. MOST OF THE TIME IT CHOOSES WHAT IS CONVENIENT RATHER THAN WHAT IS REALLY GOOD.
[The Church should never dictate to the people what they should do as human nature would tell us,]
I THINK YOU ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT THE CHURCH IS. THE CHURCH BEING THE BODY OF CHRIST IS THE MOTHER AND TEACHER OF HER MEMBERS. IT IS HER DUTY TO TEACH TO HER MEMBERS WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS EVIL ESPECIALLY SPIRITUAL AND MORAL ISSUES LIKE CONTRACEPTION AND ABORTION.
IT IS DEMONIC TO SAY THAT THE CHURCH SHOULD JUST BE SILENT AND ALLOW HER MEMBERS TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. THOSE WHO WANT TO COMMIT ADULTERY THEY JUST DO IT. THOSE WHO WANT TO STEAL THEY MUST BE ALLOWED TO DO IT. SO, WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE GOVERNMENT TO RELEASE THE AMPATUAN THEY MADE A CHOICE TO KILL. WHY DO WE HAVE TO PUT THEM TO TRIAL AND IMPRISON THEM FOR THEIR CHOICES?
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS A RELIGION THAT TEACHES HER DOCTRINES TO PEOPLE. HOW CAN YOU STILL CLAIM THAT YOU ARE A CATHOLIC IF YOU ARE NO LONGER BELIEVING ON HER TEACHINGS, PRINCIPLES AND METHODS OF GOVERNING. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOUR GOVERNMENT ASK YOU TO PAY YOUR TAXES AND MUST PASS AN EXAMINATION BEFORE GETTING A PUBLIC LICENSE YOU WILL OBEY IT NO MATTER HOW DIFFICULT. YET THE BENEVOLENT TEACHING AUTHORITY OF YOUR CHURCH IS BECOMING BURDENSOME FOR YOU.
YOU ARE FREE TO DISOBEY THE CHURCH, BUT YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO TELL YOUR CHURCH TO STOP TEACHING HER MEMBERS. WE WILL DO IT AS LONG AS THERE IS STILL ONE PERSON WHO IS WILLING TO LISTEN TO US. AND EVEN IF THAT ONE WILL BECOME A TRAITOR LIKE YOU, WE WILL STILL SPEAK TO THE STONES AND TO WINDS THE TRUTH OF OUR FAITH IF NO ONE ELSE WILL LISTEN.
ASKING US TO STOP TEACHING IS LIKE IMPRISONING THE WIND.
[the more you try to control the people the more they will retaliate.]
ReplyDeleteWE DO NOT TRY TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE. THEY CAN INSERT HOW MANY CONDOMS THEY WANT TO INSERT IN THEIR BODIES. THEY CAN EVEN SWALLOW THEM IF THEY WANT. THEY CAN DRINK A FULL BOX OF PILLS IN ONE SHOT WITHOUT A SINGLE PRIEST OR NUN TO STOP OR CONTROL THEM. NO, NO, NO...
WE ARE ONLY TEACHING AND PREACHING. AND WE ARE DOING IT INSIDE OUR CHURCHES AND IN OUR BLOGS OR WEBSITES OR IN OUR COLUMNS IN NEWSPAPERS OR ON RADIO OR TV RIGHT IN OUR PROGRAMS. WE NEVER ENTER YOUR HOUSES MUCH MORE YOUR BEDROOMS TO CONTROL YOU. NO, NO, NO...
YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS IN THE REALMS OF YOUR PRIVACY. YOU CAN BED YOUR WIFE OR YOUR MISTRESS OR YOUR PET DOG OR A MONKEY THE POPE, THE CARDINALS, BISHOPS AND PRIESTS SHALL NEVER KNOW. SO STOP HALLUCINATING THAT WE WILL CONTROL YOU. YOU ARE FREE AS A WIND AND AS A BIRD.
[Having said that, I'm not saying that the Church must approve of contraception,]
HOW NICE OF YOU. HOW VERY KIND. OF COURSE, THE CHURCH SHALL NEVER APPROVE CONTRACEPTION. WHAT IS IMMORAL AND ANTI-LIFE SHALL NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE CHURCH.
[all I'm saying is that the Church must provide the people the choice.]
YEAH, WE ARE PROVIDING YOU WITH A CHOICE. A CHOICE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH, GIVING LIFE OR PREVENTING LIFE. GOOD OR EVIL. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CHOOSE WHAT IS GOOD AND IT IS YOU WHO WILL DECIDE IT NOT ME, NOT THE POPE, NOT THE BISHOP AND NOT THE CARDINAL.
THAT IS WHY YOUR CALL TO GIVE YOU THE CHOICE IS VERY PATHETIC. YOU ARE SHOWING ME THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT OF YOUR CATHOLIC FAITH. THE CATHOLICS ARE THE FREEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
[If the bill is there (sorry, I'm not too familiar with the bill), does that mean all the people will adopt it?It means, the people are given the choice.]
YEAH, THEY ARE GIVEN THE CHOICE TO USE THE CONDOMS OR NOT, TO DRINK THE PILLS OR NOT, TO CASTRATE THEMSELVES OR NOT.
BUT WHAT THE CHURCH IS TELLING IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO BUY CONDOMS AND PILLS FOR THE USE OF YOUR OWN GENITALS AND THAT OF YOUR SEXUAL PARTNER THEN USE YOUR OWN MONEY NOT THE MONEY OF THE GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE THE MONEY OF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT MEANT FOR YOUR SEXUAL ENJOYMENT BUT FOR INFRASTRUCTURES, EDUCATION AND MEDICAL NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.
FULFILL THE NEEDS OF YOUR LIBIDO WITH YOUR OWN MONEY DON'T INCLUDE THE MONEY OF THE CATHOLICS WHO ARE NOT TRAITORS TO GOD AND TO THE CHURCH AS YOU DO.
[the more you try to control the people the more they will retaliate.]
ReplyDeleteWE DO NOT TRY TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE. THEY CAN INSERT HOW MANY CONDOMS THEY WANT TO INSERT IN THEIR BODIES. THEY CAN EVEN SWALLOW THEM IF THEY WANT. THEY CAN DRINK A FULL BOX OF PILLS IN ONE SHOT WITHOUT A SINGLE PRIEST OR NUN TO STOP OR CONTROL THEM. NO, NO, NO...
WE ARE ONLY TEACHING AND PREACHING. AND WE ARE DOING IT INSIDE OUR CHURCHES AND IN OUR BLOGS OR WEBSITES OR IN OUR COLUMNS IN NEWSPAPERS OR ON RADIO OR TV RIGHT IN OUR PROGRAMS. WE NEVER ENTER YOUR HOUSES MUCH MORE YOUR BEDROOMS TO CONTROL YOU. NO, NO, NO...
YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS IN THE REALMS OF YOUR PRIVACY. YOU CAN BED YOUR WIFE OR YOUR MISTRESS OR YOUR PET DOG OR A MONKEY THE POPE, THE CARDINALS, BISHOPS AND PRIESTS SHALL NEVER KNOW. SO STOP HALLUCINATING THAT WE WILL CONTROL YOU. YOU ARE FREE AS A WIND AND AS A BIRD.
[Having said that, I'm not saying that the Church must approve of contraception,]
HOW NICE OF YOU. HOW VERY KIND. OF COURSE, THE CHURCH SHALL NEVER APPROVE CONTRACEPTION. WHAT IS IMMORAL AND ANTI-LIFE SHALL NEVER BE ACCEPTABLE TO THE CHURCH.
[all I'm saying is that the Church must provide the people the choice.]
YEAH, WE ARE PROVIDING YOU WITH A CHOICE. A CHOICE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH, GIVING LIFE OR PREVENTING LIFE. GOOD OR EVIL. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CHOOSE WHAT IS GOOD AND IT IS YOU WHO WILL DECIDE IT NOT ME, NOT THE POPE, NOT THE BISHOP AND NOT THE CARDINAL.
THAT IS WHY YOUR CALL TO GIVE YOU THE CHOICE IS VERY PATHETIC. YOU ARE SHOWING ME THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT OF YOUR CATHOLIC FAITH. THE CATHOLICS ARE THE FREEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
[If the bill is there (sorry, I'm not too familiar with the bill), does that mean all the people will adopt it?It means, the people are given the choice.]
ReplyDeleteYEAH, THEY ARE GIVEN THE CHOICE TO USE THE CONDOMS OR NOT, TO DRINK THE PILLS OR NOT, TO CASTRATE THEMSELVES OR NOT.
BUT WHAT THE CHURCH IS TELLING IS THAT IF YOU WANT TO BUY CONDOMS AND PILLS FOR THE USE OF YOUR OWN GENITALS AND THAT OF YOUR SEXUAL PARTNER THEN USE YOUR OWN MONEY NOT THE MONEY OF THE GOVERNMENT. BECAUSE THE MONEY OF THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT MEANT FOR YOUR SEXUAL ENJOYMENT BUT FOR INFRASTRUCTURES, EDUCATION AND MEDICAL NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE.
FULFILL THE NEEDS OF YOUR LIBIDO WITH YOUR OWN MONEY DON'T INCLUDE THE MONEY OF THE CATHOLICS WHO ARE NOT TRAITORS TO GOD AND TO THE CHURCH AS YOU DO.
[In this entire saga, I'm just disappointed why the Church is reacting like this.]
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE REACTION OF THE CHURCH. SHE SIMPLY OPPOSES SOMETHING THAT SHE BELIEVES TO BE EVIL. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?
IF OTHERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUPPORT THE RH BILL THE CHURCH HAS THE RIGHT TO OPPOSE IT. IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT ON CONDOMS OR EVEN TO DRINK IT WITH WHISKY OR BRANDY THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TEACH AGAINST IT. TEACHING AND PREACHING CONTRARY ON SOMETHING IS NOT DEPRIVING OTHERS OF THEIR FREEDOM. SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH THAT?
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO OBEY YOUR CHURCH SO YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE THE CHURCH OR FOUND YOUR OWN RELIGION. BE AN ATHEIST, A MOSLEM OR WHAT. NOT THAT I WANT YOU TO LEAVE. I WANT YOU TO STAY. BUT IF YOU STAY YOU BETTER STAY BECAUSE YOU ARE CONVINCED THAT YOUR CHURCH IS TEACHING YOU THE TRUTH COMING FROM GOD. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE TRUTH OF GOD IS IN CONDOMS OR IN NOYNOY AQUINO WHO IS PRO-RH BILL FINE. YOU CAN ATTEND MASSES WITH NOYNOY AQUINO AS YOUR PRIEST. YOU CAN HAVE THE AUTHORS OF RH BILL LIKE EDCEL LAGMAN AS YOUR SPIRITUAL GUARDIANS.
IF YOU DO NOT TRUST THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS AND THE PRIESTS THEN TRUST THE POLITICIANS. THEY WILL LEAD YOU TO HEAVENLY LIFE BECAUSE THEY WILL BRING YOU TO THE TRUTH MORE THAN THE POPE. THE CONGRESSMEN ARE MORE HOLY, MORE VIRTUOUS, MORE MORAL, MORE CLEAN AND MORE CONVINCING FOR YOU THAN YOUR POPE WHO IS SUPPOSE TO BE THE SUCCESSOR OF ST. PETER FOR CATHOLICS LIKE YOU AND ME.
[They have said their point but I'm sure the Church has more pressing issues that she needs to solve too.]
ReplyDeleteTHE CHURCH IS ACTIVE IN ALL PRESSING ISSUES THAT SHE NEEDS TO SOLVE TOO. SHE HAS BUILT MORE ORPHANAGES THAN THE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS RECEIVING OUR TAXES, SHE HAS MORE HOME FOR THE AGED, SHE HAS BUILT BETTER SCHOOLS THAN THE GOVERNMENT OWNED WHO ARE MOSTLY ROTTEN AND DECAPITATED.
[This issue - population control, is not only a MORAL issue but a SOCIAL one which is why the government is trying to do something about it.]
IT IS MORAL, SPIRITUAL, DOCTRINAL, SOCIAL, LEGAL, ETC.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE POLITICIANS WILL HAVE IN HEART THE SOCIAL WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE OR THEY WERE PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY THE CONDOMS AND PILLS FACTORIES AND MULTI NATIONAL CORPORATIONS TO MAKE THE BODIES OF OUR WOMEN THE DUMPING SITES OF THEIR MEDICAL JUNKS?
[Will the Church share the responsibility if more social problems are created if we don't try to curb the population explosion?]
THE CHURCH IS DOING ITS SHARE OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THE SOCIAL SPHERE. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS FEEDING MORE STREET CHILDREN THAN THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. TRY TO VISIT THE DSWD CENTERS. THEIR SOCIAL SERVICES ARE TOO SUPERFICIAL. GO TO THE CHARITABLE INSTITUTIONS OF THE PRIESTS AND NUNS: FREE EDUCATION, BOARD AND LODGING, TRAININGS FOR FINDING JOBS. GO TO DON BOSCO CENTERS, HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE, AND COMPARE THEM TO THOSE GIVEN BY YOUR BELOVED CORRUPT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
THE CONGREGATION IN WHICH I BELONG HAS BUILT FIVE LARGE ORPHANAGES IN THE PHILIPPINES AND HAS GIVEN THOUSANDS OF SCHOLARSHIPS TO MANY STUDENTS FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS OF ITS PRESENCE IN THE PHILIPPINES. DO YOU KNOW THAT? DO YOU KNOW THAT IN THE WORLD THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS MORE INSTITUTIONS OF CHARITIES AND EDUCATION FOR THE POOR THAN THE UNITED NATIONS?
YOU ARE SPEAKING AS IF THE CHURCH IS NOT DOING SOMETHING FOR THE SOCIETY. EXCUSE ME. I ADVISE YOU TO LIST ALL DSWD INSTITUTIONS THEN VISITS ALL INSTITUTIONS OF MOTHER TERESA OR OF DON BOSCO OR OF DAUGHTERS OF CHARITY AND YOU WILL SEE WHICH IS MORE NUMEROUS AND BETTER IN QUALITY.
HERE IN SORSOGON THE DSWD INSTITUTION FOR THE POOR BOYS IS VERY POOR IN QUALITY BUT THOSE RUN BY THE PRIESTS AND NUNS ARE VERY VERY BEAUTIFUL AND LARGER. THERE ARE ONLY ABOUT 20 BOYS UNDER THE GOVERNMENT CENTER BUT THAT OF THE PRIESTS TAKES CARE OF MORE THAN 50 AND THE NUNS OF MORE THAN 30.
"I am catholic but I support the RH BIll"
ReplyDelete--- professional boxer ako, pero ayoko sumunod sa rules ng sports kc gusto ko sa bayag ko buntalin ang opponent.
or
--- Democrat ako, pero yung mga tenets ng Communism ang guiding principles ko.
HA, HA, HA... VERY GOOD ANALOGY BRO. ANONYMOUS.
ReplyDeletenice po tlga fr., that is right po, kasi the Church only teaches God's Word because that is why she is established and not the laws of men.......the stand of the Church in the RH Bill means that the Church is really God's Church because whoever loves God was hated by the Word so as the Church with RH Bill.....just what Saint Paul says that the time will come when the people will not listen to the Gospel but will only listen to the teaching that agrees with them or that satisfies their ears........same as today, the some people said that the Church intereferes with politics but the reality was that they don't want to listen anymore to the truth of the Gospel that's why they even want to curtail the Church in teaching truth..........they even persecuted the church with insults....which proves more that the Catholic Church is really God's Church because it fights for what is God's since life is God's own property not man's that is why the Church opposes RH Bill because the Church only fight the rights of God....
ReplyDeleteThank you.
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