Tuesday, October 12, 2010

DEBUNKING PASTOR ANTHONY PEZZOTA ON THE APPARITION OF MARY IN FATIMA by Bro. Marwil N. Llasos, O.P.

The Blessed Virgin Mary appeared in Cova da Iria, Fatima in Portugal before the three children: Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco.

Aegis-Judex said...

Pax tecum, Father Abe!

Interrogative: What can you say viz. the accsations that the BVM of the appartitions (e.g. Our Lady of Fatima) is really the Antichrist? I've been wondering what your response to those kuffar from rev1911.webs.com would be.

Gloria in Excelsis Deo!

Aegis-Judex

October 9, 2010 6:59 PM

Bro. Marwil N. Llasos said...

Bro. Aeigis-Judex:

Accusations of that sort are nothing but recycled garbage. "Dr." Anthony Pezzotta, author of Truth Encounter also had that claim. We already debunked Pezzotta's allegation. Please visit my article on The Truth About Appariitons in this site:

Thank you.

October 12, 2010 1:19 PM
Bro. Marwil N. Llasos said...

Let me post here an excerpt from my article:

In page 155 of his book, Dr. Pezzotta asks: “Who really appeared [at Fatima], Mary or an impostor?" Pezzotta claims that –

"While some would never dare to ask, “Who really appeared to the children, Mary of an impostor? the question must be asked in the interest of truth."

Pezzotta suggests that the Catholic Church never asked the question of who really appeared to the children at Fatima. The sly innuendo of Pezzotta is that the Church never bothered to raise that question “in the interest of truth.” I am sorry to say that aside from being intellectually dishonest, Dr. Anthony Pezzotta seems to be totally ignorant of the facts regarding the events at Fatima. The commission that inquired into the events of Fatima asked that question first and foremost. After a thorough and grueling investigation by the commission of the events at Fatima, the Bishop of Leiria-Fatima pronounced that it was indeed Mary, the Mother of Jesus, who appeared to the three children at the hamlets Fatima. In so doing, the Church follows the Biblical standards in its discernment of private revelations:

"Despise not prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good" (1 Thess. 5:20-21).

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1 Jn. 4:1).

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit; neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them" (Mt. 7:16-20).

Of course, Dr. Pezzotta has already made up is mind that the Lady who appeared at Fatima was an impostor. Having made up his mind, he doesn’t want to be bothered anymore by evidence to the contrary. Hence, when he asked the question of who really appeared to the children allegedly in “in the interest of truth,” Pezzotta was actually not interested in the answer because he already prejudged the case. For Dr. Anthony Pezzotta, it was already a foregone conclusion: it was an impostor who appeared at Fatima. Is that intellectual honesty?

Pezzotta argues that the “fact that she brought down a “ball of fire” from heaven proves nothing. I am amazed why despite the proliferation of Fatima literature, this scholar and expect on Catholicism fails to cite any reference that Our Lady of Fatima “brought down a ‘ball of fire’ from heaven.” What Pezzotta must have in mind is the “dancing sun” phenomenon witnessed by more than 70,000 people – some of whom are unbelievers. Of course, the “ball of fire” from heaven, by itself, proves nothing. The Church based its pronouncement on the authenticity of the apparitions at Fatima on the totality of factors – the message, the supernatural events, etc.

The Baptist pastor identifies Our Lady of Fatima with the false prophet in Revelation 13:13. According to Pezzotta –

"The Bible specifically states that a false prophet in the last days will cause fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of man in order to commend worship of the antichrist" (Rev. 13:13) x x x x

Notice that Pezzotta does not directly quote Revelation 13:13 and merely paraphrases it. I believe that Pezzotta does that on purpose because he doesn’t want his readers to discover that he is distorting God’s Word. I shudder at how this Baptist pastor twists the Word of God. To misuse God’s sacred Word is rank sacrilege. Dr. Pezzotta exhibits no qualms in perverting God’s Word just to suit his own interest or advance his personal agenda. I invite the reader to read the complete context in Revelation 13:11-18 –

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

The verse refers to the “beast,” a real historical person who will appear at the end time. I have a problem with Pezzotta’s exegesis. How the apparition at Fatima could qualify as the fulfillment of the prophecy above is beyond me.

At Fatima, Our Lady did not “cause fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of man in order to commend worship of the antichrist” as Pezzotta would have us believe. What happened there at Fatima was a solar phenomenon (popularly known as the “dancing sun”) predicted three months earlier to occur at a particular place at the particular time. This solar phenomenon was witnessed by more than 70,000 people (some of whom were atheists) and not “in full view of man” [all humanity].

Furthermore, Our Lady of Fatima never commended worship of the antichrist. On the contrary, she asked all to “stop offending the Lord Our God because He is already too much offended.”

Here we see how Rev. Anthony Pezzotta distorts facts and the Bible just to discredit the apparition of the Blessed Mother at Fatima

October 12, 2010 1:25 PM

32 comments:

  1. Pezzota is a great traitor. He was once a priest.

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  2. That's an opinion of a pastor who was not there and was not even born at that time of miracle. Anti-catholicism really makes a lot of tax-free money. It even makes one a millionaire and thousands ripped off.

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  3. Dear Father,
    Tanong lang po tungkol sa pagpakita ng Berhin sa tatlong bata NA SINA LUCEA,HACINTA AT FRANSISCO,mabasa po ba ito sa bible,at ito ba opisyal na turo ng simbahang katoliko?

    Salamat Father.....

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  4. Ang pagpapakita ng Mahal na Ina ni Jesus bilang babaeng nagniningning sa kalangitan ay mababasa sa Bibliia:

    Rev. 12:1 "At ang isang dakilang tanda ay nakita sa langit: isang babae na nararamtan ng araw, at ang buwan ay nasa ilalim ng kaniyang mga paa, at sa kaniyang ulo ay may isang putong na labingdalawang bituin"


    In English:

    "And there APPEARED a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars"


    The Apparition in Fatimma is founded on this Biblical passage. First there is the apparition in the sky. Second, it is the Mother of Jesus who appeared and third, she is clothed with light.

    ANG APPARITIONS MAGING NG ANGHEL, SANTO O NG MAHAL NA INA NI JESUS AY BIBLICAL. AT ITO AY NASA DOCTRINA NG SANTA IGLESIA. Ang pagpapakita ng Mahal na Virgen sa Fatima ay dineclara ng Santa Iglesia na 'authentic' at karapat-dapat paniwalaan.

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  5. Apparantly the Scriptures says that even Satan can appear as an angel of light...So in other words, Satan can and may appear in the person of Mary to deceive many people..that's a possibility...and he could even use the Scripture to be more convincing.

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  6. IT IS MORE A POSSIBILITY FOR SATAN TO DISGUISE AS MARTIN LUTHER OR JOHN CALVIN OR JIMMY SWAGGART OR WILDE ALMEDA OR ANTHONY PEZZOTA. HE HE HE...

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  7. One question Fr. Abe, CRS

    From your at post http://bromarwilnllasos.blogspot.com/2009/03/truth-about-apparitions-part-one.html, It says:
    Pezzotta recounts how he eavesdropped on the conversations of the crowd who went to the exhibit. He says that some of them talked about (and even betted) how powerful certain images were more powerful than the others.

    There’s absolutely no way to verify the anecdote of Pezzotta. Assuming it really happened, it simply means that there are misguided Catholics who do not know their faith very well. However, Pezzotta should not pass off the erroneous, if not ridiculous, views of the uninformed or mis-informed Catholics to be the official teaching of the Church.

    - Why have you said that "there are misguided Catholics". Isn't that mean, people are not taught to read the "Word of God"(Holy Bible)?

    Why it has an Exhibit? Does God teaches people to create IMAGES or any GRAVEN image? That just made people learn a NON Biblical doctrine. Why was the exhibit held anyways? to promote those graven images or statutes? It was said from Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:" How then the practice of creating graven images still exerted?

    I believed Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior that He Washed my Sins and I'm now one of His Children. (John 1:12).

    I know we have reasons and beliefs and wherein we stand... I would love to hear from you.

    Please no rude comments...let's just talk based on the Truth(The Word of God)John 3:32.

    --
    Clint

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  8. Pezzota is a great pastor. He found the truth in Christ, that only Him must be followed and not those priests, papas, cerdinals, etc. Pezzota only proved that the doctrines of Roman Catholic are not bible-based. He found everything when he found Christ. Better read the bible first before you judge Anthony Pezzota. Godbless!

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  9. PEZZOTA IS A COWARDLY BORN AGAIN PASTOR. HE WAS THOROUGHLY DEFEATED BY JAMES AKIN OF CATHOLIC ANSWERS IN THEIR 'PRIESTHOOD' DEBATE AND SINCE THEN HE REFUSED TO DEBATE THE CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS. HE FAILED MISERABLY TO REFUTE THE BIBLICAL FOUNDATION OF CATHOLIC FAITH.

    ATTY. MARWIL LLASOS ISSUED A FORMAL CHALLENGE TO DEBATE PEZZOTA ON MARY BUT HE REMAINED SILENT.

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  10. The anonyomous guy Father obviously does not know what he is saying. I debunked Pezzotta's arguments and I dare his minions to refute me. It seems that this anonymous guy is closed-minded. What truth are you saying? Pezzotta is a certifiable liar and a twister of God's words. An ignoramous and a charlatan. That's what he is. The statement of that anonymous guy is a sweeping generalization that doesn't hold water. Give specifics, cite instances, provide details and let's debate. Be prepared to defend each and every allegation of Pezzotta. And I will be delighted to demolish each and every one of them.

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  11. One question Fr. Abe, CRS

    From your at post http://bromarwilnllasos.blogspot.com/2009/03/truth-about-apparitions-part-one.html, It says:

    [I fully take responsibility to respond to the question because it was my article that Rev. Fr. Abe Arganiosa, CRS had the kindness to post in his blog.]

    Pezzotta recounts how he eavesdropped on the conversations of the crowd who went to the exhibit. He says that some of them talked about (and even betted) how powerful certain images were more powerful than the others.

    [That’s what Pezzotta claims in his book Truth Encounter. Do you have that book? You can check it out.]

    There’s absolutely no way to verify the anecdote of Pezzotta.

    [This is absolutely correct. It is just Pezzotta’s claims. Who are his witnesses to prove it happened? What are his documentary evidence to back up his claim? None at all. So, I repeat: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO VERIFY THE ANECDOTE OF PEZZOTTA. Were you there?]

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  12. Assuming it really happened, it simply means that there are misguided Catholics who do not know their faith very well. However, Pezzotta should not pass off the erroneous, if not ridiculous, views of the uninformed or mis-informed Catholics to be the official teaching of the Church.

    [Yes, that was my comment. What’s wrong with it?]


    - Why have you said that "there are misguided Catholics".

    [Yes, there are misguided Catholics are there are misguided Muslims, Protestants, Born Again Christians. We don’t have the monopoly of this. Even the apostle Paul severely chided the early Galatian Christians for their “foolishness” (Gal. 3:1).]

    Isn't that mean, people are not taught to read the "Word of God"(Holy Bible)?

    [Your conclusion does not follow your premise. Even if people are taught to read the Bible, is there any guarantee that they will do the right thing all the time. Satan even went as far as quoting the Bible. Was he ever converted? Or is it even possible to?

    Across the years, may people – Protestants and Born Again Christians included – have read the Bible. But is it any guaranty that they will not twist the Scripture? On the contrary, the Bible categorically says, “As also in his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do with other Scriptures, unto their own destruction” (2 Peter 3:16), So what else is new?]

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  13. Why it has an Exhibit?

    [Because the images are works of art. Haven’t you gone to museums where works of art are on exhibit?]

    Does God teaches people to create IMAGES or any GRAVEN image?

    [Aren’t you aware that he did? This goes to show your ignorance of the Bible which also makes you misguided. In Exodus 25:18-22, God did instruct his chosen messenger Moses to create IMAGES of gigantic cherubims. Aren’t these GRAVEN IMAGES? I am astonished that you do not know that.]

    That just made people learn a NON Biblical doctrine.

    [So God teaches a non-biblical doctrine, huh? Remember it was God Himself who INSTRUCTED Moses to create those images in Exodus 25:18-22. I can add more verses but that would be superfluity. It’s enough that there is an instance in the Bible that God commanded the creation of images. So the Bible teaches non-biblical doctrines? You are making the Bible contradict itself. Worse, you make God contradict Himself. Isn’t that blasphemy?]

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  14. Why was the exhibit held anyways? to promote those graven images or statutes?

    [As I said these are art pieces that’s why they are put on display for art appreciation. So, if a museum puts on exhibit Buddha, or Bulul or any of the anitos, does that mean the museum also promotes graven images?]

    It was said from Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:" How then the practice of creating graven images still exerted?

    [Well, go a few chapters after verse 20 where God Himself commanded the making of giant images. I cited Exodus 25:18-22, and as I said, I can add more. How come you are selective in your Bible quotes?]

    I believed Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior that He Washed my Sins and I'm now one of His Children. (John 1:12).

    [And so do we. Don’t claim it for yourself. And by the way, we just don't "believed" - WE BELIVE, always in the present tense, not in the past.]

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  15. I know we have reasons and beliefs and wherein we stand... I would love to hear from you.

    [I have given you the answers and I hope you search your Bible for these truths that are hidden from you. Your selective Bible quotes simply means you do not have the Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth. So help you God.

    I also love to hear from you about my questions. I shall be waiting.]

    Please no rude comments...

    [Which of my comments above are rude? “Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?” (Gal. 4:16).]

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  16. let's just talk based on the Truth (The Word of God) John 3:32.

    [Sure, why not? But let me just say that the Truth is a Person, not a book. The Truth is Jesus Christ, the Way, the TRUTH and the Life (Jn. 14:16). How come you do not know that? Maybe, you are not in the Truth because if you are, you won’t miss it. And the Word of God is also a Person, not a book – Jesus Christ (Jn. 1:1, Rev. 19:14).

    Let me check your citation for the Word of God. You used John 3:32. What does it say? Here: “And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.” Where is the Word of God there? Oops. Please don’t full us with your wrong citations. Be very careful. Your lack of grasp on the Bible shows. And to ask you back your own question, were you not taught the "Word of God"?]

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  17. Kung mamatay ka ngaun Bro. Marwil N. Llasos, san ka mapupunta? at bakit ka mapupunta dun?

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  18. SA LANGIT AT HINDI MO KASAMA SA IMPYERNONG PINANGGALINGAN MO! LUMAYO KA SATANAS!

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  19. HA HA HA... SIEMPRE SA LANGIT KASAMA NILA MAMA MARY, ST. PETER AT ST. JOSEPH. HE HE HE

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  20. Mr Marwil, seems you're doing some judgement on a person. How can you say a person is SATAN when he is asking you a sincere question that people might know of your answer? I have posted a comment here and you never approved it I guess? I also have a crucial question with that if you still remember. WE or YOU can never JUDGE a person because the WORD OF GOD DOES! AND WE WILL FACE in the JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST and that's for SURE. Romans 14:10.

    Fr. Abe, what's the FUN of your answer? that's a serious question that each of us should know the exact answer while we are yet here on earth. It seems you have shown you uncertainty of your salvation didn't you? But I don't know...and I'm not judging anyone here of your salvation.

    If a man can't sure of his salvation, then what's the purpose of the CHURCHES or any RELIGIOUS GROUP? It's not for PROFIT, It's not for any personal intent or gain but to let people know about SALVATION THROUGH JESUS CHRIST and for SPIRITUAL MATURITY..Wasn't it?

    I hope to converse with you more and to know more about you and your FAITH in Christ Jesus.

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  21. Mr Marwil, seems you're doing some judgement on a person.

    [You and your ilk are the most judgmental people I know by condemning Catholics to hell because to you we are not saved. You are a hypocritical by your double standard!]

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  22. How can you say a person is SATAN

    [How can I know if that person is not Satan or anybody under diabolical influence? That person does not even have the decency to identify himself. He hides beneath the cloak of anonymity just like of your father the devil]

    when he is asking you a sincere question that people might know of your answer?

    [I gave a sincere answer and that is written right there. I said I know where I will go when
    I die. Don’t you get it?]

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  23. I have posted a comment here and you never approved it I guess?

    [Your guess is just a guess. You never double check your facts. It seems you are fond of guesswork. Because if you did your homework thoroughly, your comments have been posted and answered.

    Here it is:

    http://thesplendorofthechurch.blogspot.com/2011/10/more-from-atty-marwil-llasos-on-pastor.html

    And also here:

    http://bromarwilnllasos.blogspot.com/2011/10/responding-to-pezzotta-defender.html

    So please stop accusing us that were are approving and posting your comments. We did and we answered them. It’s your duty now to respond.]

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  24. I also have a crucial question with that if you still remember. WE or YOU can never JUDGE a person because the WORD OF GOD DOES! AND WE WILL FACE in the JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST and that's for SURE. Romans 14:10.

    [Yes, and that Word of God is a Person, not a book – Jesus Christ. And it is Him that will judge the living and the dead. Are you saying we don’t know these things? If so, how judgmental of you!]

    Fr. Abe, what's the FUN of your answer?

    [Ano ngayon ang pakialam mo kung nasiyahan si
    Father sa sagot? Pakialamero ka naman masyado.]

    that's a serious question that each of us should know the exact answer while we are yet here on earth.

    [That’s why I gave you a serious answer.]

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  25. It seems you have shown you uncertainty of your salvation didn't you? But I don't know...and I'm not judging anyone here of your salvation.

    [Your inconsistency rears its ugly head. After implying that Fr. Abe is not certain of his salvation yet you backtrack by saying you are not judging him of his salvation? You are neither here not there.]

    If a man can't sure of his salvation, then what's the purpose of the CHURCHES or any RELIGIOUS GROUP?

    [I know where you are coming from. Let me test your grasp of Scripture. Cite verses that say that man can be sure of his salvation.]

    It's not for PROFIT

    [Tell that to your pastors!]

    It's not for any personal intent or gain

    [Tell that again to your pastors!]

    but to let people know about SALVATION THROUGH JESUS CHRIST and for SPIRITUAL MATURITY..Wasn't it?

    [Who said it isn’t? Name names.]

    [I hope to converse with you more and to know more about you and your FAITH in Christ Jesus.
    Go ahead. We love responding to you. Be sure of our rock-solid FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD SAVIOR AND GOD.]

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  26. Bro. Marwil N. Llasos.. How's your devotion with God? How's your relationship in God?

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  27. Very fine. It has never been any better. God has always been the center of my life and He is mightily using me to do His will. My devotion to Him has been in its finest, deepest and most personal. I wish I could share that devotion to you, too.

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  28. Anu po yung assurance ninyo kung bakit sa langit kayo mapupunta?

    [Personal para sa akin iyon. Binigyan ako ng assurance kung bakit sa langit ako makakapunta. At pinanghahawakan ko ang Salita ng Dios ayon sa katuruan ng Kanyang Simbahan kung bakit ako naniniwala na may assurance ako. Kung gusto mo malaman, magpakilala ka, makipagkita ka at magpa-aral ka. Salamat sa interest mo kung bakit gusto mong malaman.]

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  29. A word to Anonymous from another Anonymous:

    Anonymous said...

    Pezzota is a great pastor. He found the truth in Christ, that only Him must be followed and not those priests, papas, cerdinals, etc. Pezzota only proved that the doctrines of Roman Catholic are not bible-based. He found everything when he found Christ. Better read the bible first before you judge Anthony Pezzota. Godbless!
    October 26, 2011 11:00 AM

    Another Anonymous said...

    Who says Pezzotta found the truth in Christ? Like Luther and the majority of Protestants, Pezzotta is just another apostate from the Catholic Church and their apostasy will reveal the son of perdition (cf 2 Thes 2:3). They are Satan's offspring (cf Gen 3:15), his junior antichrist, as foreseen by John: Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that the antichrist was coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. Thus we know this is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of our number; if they had been, they would have remained with us. Their desertion shows that none of them was of our number (1 Jn 2:18-19). Apostate Catholics are no friend of Jesus (cf Jn 15:14)as they have more than one Lord (to them, the Lord of Elizabeth (cf Lk 1:43) is not God), more than one faith, and more than one baptism (cf Eph 4:5). I saw the video of Pezzotta enjoying his second baptism as a prize for becoming an apostate Catholic.

    I am praying that all apostate Catholics will see the light before it is too late for their souls. Amen.

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  30. Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)...

    "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME"
    "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME"
    "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME"
    "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME"
    "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME"

    o other than that... :)

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    1. WELL, THIS ANONYMOUS IS STUPIDLY IGNORANT OF CATHOLIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE OF MARY. MARY LEADS US TO JESUS:

      John 2:5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

      SO, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS BUT MARY TEACHES US TO LISTEN AND TO FOLLOW JESUS. SHE IS A MODEL OF CHRISTIAN DISCIPLESHIP.

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  31. Tama ba naman yan? Ginawang mantra ang "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME" "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME" "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME" "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME" "no one comes to the father except THROUGH ME." Akala ko ba ayaw sa paulit-ulit. Tapos nag-uulit-ulit nama. Ngayon ang hamon ko diyan sa anonymous ay ganito, saang doctrina ng Iglesia Catolika niya mababasa na itinatatwa natin ang sinabi ni Jesus na "no one comes to the father except through Me?" Ngayon, pag walang naipakita, aba namamaratang na walang basehan. Tama ka Father Abe, hindi natin itinuturo na si Maria ay daan sa Ama. Bagkus siya ang nagtuturo sa atin kay Jesus. Malinaw iyan sa Juan 2:5. Pulpol lang na Born Again ang hindi alam iyan.

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