Pope Benedict XVI speaking
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Even Pope Benedict XVI acknowledges that there was a "hermeneutic of rupture" that happened in some circles of the Church. Paul VI even says that "the smoke of Satan has entered the Church." These are not my words. They're from the Popes.
- Fr. Abe, CRS said...
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[Even Pope Benedict XVI acknowledges that there was a "hermeneutic of rupture" that happened in some circles of the Church.]
HERMENEUTIC OF RUPTURE IS DIFFERENT FROM SAYING THAT VATICAN II IS TEACHING ERRORS AND HERESIES. IT SPEAKS OF PASTORAL PROBLEM AND NOT DOCTRINAL VIOLATIONS OR THE CHURCH SUCCUMBING TO ERRORS. O NO, NO, NO. THE POPE SIMPLY HIGHLIGHTED THAT IN SOME AREAS IN THE LIFE OF THE CHURCH THE IMPLEMENTATIONS OF VATICAN II FAILED TO BE FULLY REALIZED AS INTENDED. THE POPE WAS SIMPLY TROUBLE-SHOOTING THE PASTORAL LIFE OF THE CHURCH.
THE POPE SIMPLY PRESENTS THE PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH. OF COURSE, IT IS COMMON IN ALL ERA FOR THE CHURCH TO BE CONFRONTED BY PROBLEMS. BUT SHE NEVER FELL INTO DOCTRINAL ERROR. NEVER EVER.
STOP IMPOSING YOUR SSPX HALLUCINATIONS ON THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[Paul VI even says that "the smoke of Satan has entered the Church." These are not my words. They're from the Popes.]
POPE PAUL VI WAS REFERRING TO LEFEBVRE WHO KEPT ON ATTACKING, MALIGNING HIM AND ARCH. BUGNINI. IT WAS LEFEBVRE'S LUCIFERIAN REBELLION THAT HURT POPE PAUL VI, OF BLESSED MEMORY, MOST.
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Ednard:
ReplyDeletefather abe
the sspx is making issue again with Paul VI and smoke of satan
Jimmy akin has said his words were misquoted
http://jimmyakin.typepad.com/defensor_fidei/2006/11/the_smoke_of_sa.html
[POPE PAUL VI WAS REFERRING TO LEFEBVRE WHO KEPT ON ATTACKING]
ReplyDeleteThe issue of Lefebvre did not exist yet by the time Pope Paul VI made a statement like that... why are you putting that tag to Lefebvre? Liar!
Fr. Abe,
ReplyDeleteI beg to disagree with some if not all of your points.
1. "Hermeneutic of Continuity" and "Hermeneutic of Rupture" are two opposing schools of Vatican II. Modernists, including Archbishop Bugnini, thought that in Vatican II, the Church put an end to its history and recreated a new one; thus, the Hermeneutic of Rupture. This is a dangerous approach to Vatican II as this would mean the Church was in error prior to the Council. The Pope is correcting this error. Benedict XVI is telling us that there is no pre and post Vatican II Church. He is telling us that the Church did not experience rupture in Vatican II. Instead, the Church experienced reform, an organic development, a continuity of its past.
Hermeneutic of rupture is not in essence a pastoral matter. It is a theological, therefore doctrinal, matter. I say so because this approach would put the entire theological framework of the Church in disarray. This is precisely the reason that this theologian pope is so concerned of this approach as this will destroy everything that the Church believes in. Hence, the Pope is telling us that Vatican II should be viewed as an Hermeneutic of Continuity.
2. The so called "smoke of satan" was never referring to Lefebre. Cardinal Virgilio Noe, the chief Vatican liturgist during the pontificate of Paul VI, revealed that when Pope Paul VI spoke about the "smoke of Satan" entering the Catholic Church, he was referring to liturgical abuses. According to Noe: the Pope "meant to include all those priests or bishops and cardinals who didn't render worship to the Lord by celebrating badly Holy Mass because of an errant interpretation of the implementation of the Second Vatican Council. He spoke of the smoke of Satan because he maintained that those priests who turned Holy Mass into dross in the name of creativity, in reality were possessed of the vainglory and the pride of the Evil One. So, the smoke of Satan was nothing other than the mentality which wanted to distort the traditional and liturgical canons of the Eucharistic ceremony." Of course, the "smoke" entered through Bugnini and his minions. In the Philippines, we are unfortunate for having Dom Anscar Chapungco and Fr. Genaro Diwa. How I wish Msgr. Andrade outlived Chapungco and Diwa so that he could work on the on the restoration of the sense of the sacred in the Liturgy without these two stumbling blocks. With Chapungco and Diwa in the helm, we Filipinos have no hope of seeing the "reform of the reform" project of Benedict XVI to come to reality soon.
God bless you Father for you defense of the Catholic faith. On the other hand, I hope you are not like Chapungco and Diwa. They, I suppose, authored the recent horrible statement of the Liturgists after their annual meeting here in Manila.
Hello Father... I have a question po. In the Catechism it says there that all the baptized are in communion, although imperfectly, in the Catholic Church. Does it mean that they are also Catholics? Sino po ba talaga Father ang mga members of the Catholic Church? Father, the Church also teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation. But those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the truth have the "assurance" or possibility of salvation. How about those who attack the Church, her doctrines, etc.? Example po yung mga INC, ADD, Born-Again, Protestants and the likes.
ReplyDeleteA Problem with Vatican II's Lumen Gentium:
ReplyDeleteConcerning the Church itself, there is one word that in this text , which is perhaps the most harmful word in the whole Council documents.
In the Latin text, it is: "Ecclesia Dei subsistit in Ecclesia Catholica" #8. This means "the Church of God subsists or takes its concrete form, is realised 'in the Catholic Church'.
The truth of the matter is that. The whole truth is: 'Ecclesia Dei est Ecclesia Catholica - the Church of God is the Catholic Church'. If you say that the Church of God subsists in the Catholic Church, you mean that there are two different entities: the Church of God and the Catholic Church and it is quite by chance that these two entities come together.
[In the Catechism it says there that all the baptized are in communion,although imperfectly, in the Catholic Church.]
ReplyDeleteYES. BAPTISM IS THE FIRST CRITERION TO BE IN COMMUNION WITH THE CHURCH. IT IS CALLED IMPERFECT BECAUSE THE FULLNESS OF THE SACRAMENTS OF INITIATION SHALL BE COMPLETED WITH THE RECEPTION OF THE SACRAMENTS OF CONFIRMATION AND THE HOLY EUCHARIST.
BESIDES, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE VALIDLY BAPTIZED THAT BELONGS TO OTHER CHURCHES LIKE THOSE IN THE ORTHODOX OR IN SOME PROTESTANT CHURCHES WHO WERE VALIDLY BAPTIZED WITH WATER AND THE TRINITARIAN FORMULA WITH RIGHT INTENTION.
[Does it mean that they are also Catholics?]
THEY ARE CHRISTIANS BUT NOT CATHOLICS. IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST BUT NOT IN COMMUNION WITH THE ONE AND ONLY CHURCH.
[Sino po ba talaga Father ang mga members of the Catholic Church?]
YUNG BAPTIZED IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR THE BABIES. FOR THE GROWN UP THEY MUST UPHELD THE CATHOLIC FAITH AND IN COMMUNION WITH THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS.
[Father, the Church also teaches that outside the Church there is no salvation.]
YES. IT MEANS THAT THE CHURCH IS GOD'S MEANS OF SALVATION. BUT THE CHURCH NEVER TAUGHT THAT ONLY CATHOLICS SHALL BE SAVED.
[But those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the truth have the "assurance" or possibility of salvation.]
CORRECT.
[How about those who attack the Church, her doctrines, etc.? Example po yung mga INC, ADD, Born-Again, Protestants and the likes.]
THEY ARE THE HERETICS. THEY ARE ENEMIES OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH. THEY ARE NOT CATHOLICS AT ALL. BUT WE REFRAIN IN SAYING THAT THEY WILL GO TO HELL BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE JUDGE ON THIS MATTER IS JESUS THE SAVIOR ALONE. IT IS NOT OUR BUSINESS TO DETERMINE WHO IS SAVED OR NOT BE SAVED. OUR DUTY IS TO PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL TO EVERY ONE.
[A Problem with Vatican II's Lumen Gentium:]
ReplyDeleteTHAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM OF VATICAN II BUT YOUR OWN CREATED PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS NOT IN VATICAN II DOCUMENTS BUT IN YOUR MIND.
[Concerning the Church itself, there is one word that in this text , which is perhaps the most harmful word in the whole Council documents.]
IT IS YOUR MALICIOUS MIND THAT CREATES THE HARM IN YOUR FAITH NOT THE DOCUMENT OF VATICAN II.
[In the Latin text, it is: "Ecclesia Dei subsistit in Ecclesia Catholica" #8. This means "the Church of God subsists or takes its concrete form, is realised 'in the Catholic Church'.]
THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. IT IS A THEOLOGICAL PRESENTATION OF THE FACT THAT THE CHURCH IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[The truth of the matter is that. The whole truth is: 'Ecclesia Dei est Ecclesia Catholica - the Church of God is the Catholic Church'.]
THAT IS EXACTLY THE CORRECT MEANING OF THE VATICAN II TEXT. IT PROCLAIMS THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE ONE AND TRUE CHURCH. THE CHURCH IS TOTALLY PRESENT IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
OF COURSE, VATICAN II USED A THEOLOGICAL MANNER OF PRESENTING IT RATHER THAN THE SIMPLE SLOGAN MANNER THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING WHICH IS VERY CHEAP.
FOR INSTANCE, THE ECUMENICAL COUNCIL OF NICAEA DIDN'T JUST SIMPLY STATED 'JESUS IS GOD' BUT IT EMPLOYED 'HOMOOUSIOS' WITH THE FATHER OR IN ENGLISH 'CONSUBSTANTIAL WITH THE FATHER'. LOOK AT THAT. WHY NOT SIMPLY SAY 'JESUS IS GOD'? WHY DID THEY USED A PHILOSOPHICAL TERM THAT ONLY SCHOLASTIC PHILOSOPHERS AND THEOLOGIANS CAN FULLY GRASP? SEE WHAT I MEAN?
NOW, IF THERE IS ONE WHO IS CRAZY AND START QUESTIONING IT: "IF JESUS IS CONSUBSTANTIAL WITH THE FATHER WHAT IS THE MEANING OF 'CON'? IT MEANS THAT THE SUBSTANCE OF JESUS IS CONTRARY TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FATHER?" NOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE INTERPRETATION IS FAULTY AND INCORRECT. HOW? BUT FOLLOWING THE OFFICIAL INTERPRETATION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. NOT OUR OWN PERSONAL INTERPRETATION.
HOW ABOUT 'TRANSUBSTANTATION'? IS IT FREE FROM WRONG INTERPRETATION? NO! ONE CAN ARGUE THAT IT IS WRONG. WHY? BECAUSE THE WORD 'TRANS' COULD MEAN 'TRANSFER'. THAT THE SUBSTANCE OF DIVINITY OF JESUS TRANSFERS ONLY TO THE BREAD.
HOW ABOUT THEOTOKOS? I HAVE ENCOUNTERED A PERSON WHO CLAIMS THAT MARY IS NOT MOTHER OF GOD. WHY? BECAUSE THEOTOKOS SIMPLY MEANS 'GOD BEARER'.
THE SAME WITH SUBSISTIT. IF YOU WANT TO DISTORT ITS MEANING IT IS YOUR FAULT BUT FOR US CATHOLICS IT MEANS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE CHURCH OF GOD.
[If you say that the Church of God subsists in the Catholic Church, you mean that there are two different entities: the Church of God and the Catholic Church and it is quite by chance that these two entities come together.]
WE DO NOT MEAN THAT. SUCH INTERPRETATION IS CONCOCTED BY YOUR MIND PREGNANT WITH MALICE. IT IS JUST THE LIES INVENTED BY THE SSPX AND THE SEDEVACANTISTS.
@ Annonyous, tungkol doon sa mga heretiko, masasabi ko batay sa personal na opinyon na walang kaligtasan para sa kanila dahil itinakwil nila ang katotohanan na itinuturo ng Inang Simbahan. Malaking kasalanan ang maniwala sa heresy.Tanging ang Iglesia Katolika lamang ang siyang haligi ng Katotohanan.
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[Paul VI even says that "the smoke of Satan has entered the Church." These are not my words. They're from the Popes.]
ReplyDeletePOPE PAUL VI WAS REFERRING TO LEFEBVRE WHO KEPT ON ATTACKING, MALIGNING HIM AND ARCH. BUGNINI. IT WAS LEFEBVRE'S LUCIFERIAN REBELLION THAT HURT POPE PAUL VI, OF BLESSED MEMORY, MOST.
WHy did you not post my message? takot kang malaman ng iba na nag sisinungaling ka??
The issues of Lefebvre did not exist during the time Pope Paul the VI mentioned " The Smoke of Satan has entered the Church". it is impossible that Pope Paul VI was referring to Msgr Lefebvre!
Liar!
DEAR BROTHER FOREST-KING,
ReplyDeleteI HAVE NOTHING TO OPPOSE ON WHAT YOU HAVE STATED. IF I AM IN DIALOGUE WITH A FELLOW CATHOLIC THEN I WILL STATE ALMOST THE SAME THING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, MY OPPONENT IS NOT LOOKING AT VATICAN II AS A HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY BUT AS SOMETHING CONTAMINATED BY ERRORS AND HERESY. SUCH EXPLANATION IS NOT APPPROPRIATE FOR HIM.
AS I EXPLAINED, THAT MATTER IS AN INTERNAL PROBLEM IN OUR HOUSE - THE CHURCH. THOSE WHO DISOBEY OUR HOLY FATHER HAS NO RIGHT TO DISTORT HIS STATEMENT TO SUIT THEIR CLAIMS THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ABANDONED THE SACRED TRADITION OF THE CHURCH.
PLEASE DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME BECOMING LIKE DIWA. HE, HE, HE... I PERSONALLY LOVE THE TRIDENTINE MASS AND AM ONE OF THE FEW PRIESTS WHO CELEBRATE IT.
IF TLM IS UNDER ATTACK I WILL DEFEND IT. BUT IF THE NOVUS ORDO IS UNDER ATTACK I WILL DEFEND IT ALSO BECAUSE I AM A MINISTER OF THE CHURCH AND I LOVE ALL LITURGICAL TRADITION OF THE CHURCH NOT JUST ONE.
[The issue of Lefebvre did not exist yet by the time Pope Paul VI made a statement like that... why are you putting that tag to Lefebvre? Liar!]
ReplyDeleteYOU AND LEFEBVRE ARE THE LIARS.
LEFEBVRE PRETENDED TO BE AGAINST DIGNITATIS HUMANAE YET HE SIGNED IT FOR APPROVAL. HYPOCRITE.
THE PROBLEM OF LEFEBVRE DIDN'T START IN 2O10 IT STARTED RIGHT AFTER THE COUNCIL OR EVEN BEFORE IT ENDED.
Thank you Fr. Abe. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDelete[The issues of Lefebvre did not exist during the time Pope Paul the VI mentioned " The Smoke of Satan has entered the Church". it is impossible that Pope Paul VI was referring to Msgr Lefebvre!
ReplyDeleteLiar!]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR...
THE POPE MENTIONED ABOUT 'THE SMOKE OF SATAN HAS ENTERED THE CHURCH'. THAT IS A PROPHECY AND A STATEMENT OF FACT.
FIRST, POPE PAUL VI PROPHESIED ABOUT THE COMING REBELLION THAT LATER LEFEBVRE WILL PERPETRATE.
SECOND, WHEN THE POPE SAID IT LEFEBVRE'S REBELLION WAS STILL IN PLANNING STAGE SO IT WAS ONLY A SMOKE THEN.
BY ALL MEANS IT FITS MARCEL LEFEBVRE, THE REBELLIOUS WACKY OLD FOOL.
Good day Fr.,
ReplyDeletePwede paki elaborate sa "Outside the Church there is no salvation", mahirap kasi maintindihan sa mga katulad namin na walang alam sa theology. Ito din kasi binabato ng mga taga ADD sa atin na pareho daw tayo ng doktrina sa INC. Thanks a lot.
Dear Bro. Noel,
ReplyDeleteAng ibig sabihin ng Doctrina na iyan ay ang katotohanang ang Santa Iglesia ay ang Katawan ni Cristo na siyang bukod tanging LORD and SAVIOR ng sangkatauhan. Dahil ang Santa Iglesia ay Katawan ni Cristo siya ang Sacramento or Means of Salvation of all at ang grasya ng kaligtasan ay binibigay ni Cristo sa pamamagitan niya.
Subalit, nireject ng Santa Iglesia ang turo na mga Catolico lang lang maliligtas. Iyan ang aral ng paring si Feeny or Feenyism na kinondena ng Church. Ang Dios lang ang makapagsasabi kung sino ang maliligtas dahil siya lang ang nakakatalos ng puso, isip at gawain ng lahat.
Pinoproklama lang ng Simbahan ang kanyang role as means of Salvation subalit hindi nya tinuturo na mga miembro lang niya ang maliligtas dahil ang kaligtasan ay para sa lahat at ang paghuhusga ay bukod tanging kay Cristo lang.
Father ano po personal thoughts/opinions nyo tungkol po sa liturgy ni Frs. Chupungco and Diwa?
ReplyDeleteFather, ano po masasabi nyo tungkol po sa mga televised Masses ng SVD and others?
Father, bakit po hindi na nagsusuot ng sutana ang mga pari? Kahit polo hindi rin sinusuot, naka jersey lang, shorts,etc...kahit nasa official functions....
Some priests also said that they are no longer bound to pray the Divine Office...Nuon po, dito sa amin, talagang makikita namin mga pari nagbre-breviary, paikot-ikot sa harap ng Simbahan reciting the breviary....
Thanks po, Father!
YUNG MGA EREHE DYAN NA INGGITERA KAY KRIS AQUINO DAHIL MARAMING BOYS... HEHEHE WAG MAGPANGGAP!! KITA NA ANG FEATHERS MO.. ISA KANG MULANGAW!!
ReplyDeleteKILALA NAMIN NI FATHER ABE KUNG SINO YUNG INGITERA KAY KRIS AQUINO DYAN...
SAKA YUNG LOKARET NA BUDDY MONG SAKRISTAN NA TALO PA ANG SANTO PAPA SA PAGBIBIGAY NG DIRECTIVES.. KILALA NAMIN KAYO NILA FATHER ABE!!
SMOKE OF SATAN KA PA!! AYUN NA NGA ANG SMOKE OF SATAN SI LEFEBVRE NA NGA!! SYA ANG REPRESENTATIVE NI LUCIFER SA ADMINISTRATION NG CATHOLIC CHURCH!!
ReplyDeleteKUNG MAY KRISTO... NATURAL MAY JUDAS ISCARIOTE!!
[Father ano po personal thoughts/opinions nyo tungkol po sa liturgy ni Frs. Chupungco and Diwa?]
ReplyDeleteANG LITURGY NI FR. CHUPUNGCO CALLED MISA NG SAMBAYANANG PILIPINO AY HINDI INAPROBAHAN NG HOLY SEE. KAYA HINDI IYAN DAPAT GAMITIN.
[Father, ano po masasabi nyo tungkol po sa mga televised Masses ng SVD and others?]
BAKIT ANONG MASAMA SA TELEVISED MASSES NILA? HINDI KO ITO NAKIKITA KASI NAGMIMISA AKO SA SIMBAHAN KUNG LINGGO AT NO TIME MANUOD.
[Father, bakit po hindi na nagsusuot ng sutana ang mga pari? Kahit polo hindi rin sinusuot, naka jersey lang, shorts,etc...kahit nasa official functions....]
AS FAR AS I KNOW DURING OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS ANG MGA PARI AY NAKADAMIT NG ALB, CHASUBLE AT STOLE DURING THE MASS. GANON DIN TUWING MAGDARAOS NG SACRAMENTS. YON ANG MGA OFFICIAL FUNCTIONS NG PRIESTS.
KAPAG NAMAN MGA NON SACRAMENTAL FUNCTIONS USUALLY THEY ARE WEARING ROMAN COLLAR, SUTANA OR CLERICAL BARONG. THERE IS STILL SIGNS OF THEIR CLERICAL STATE.
VATICAN II DIDN'T SAY THAT PRIESTS MUST NOT WEAR THEIR CASSOCK OR ROMAN COLLAR. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAME TO BE LIKE THAT IN THE PHILIPPINES. OUR FAITHFUL SHOULD PROTEST IT TO THE HOLY SEE. HE, HE, HE...
[Some priests also said that they are no longer bound to pray the Divine Office...]
THAT IS NOT TRUE. THEY ARE BOUND TO PRAY THE DIVINE OFFICE.
[Nuon po, dito sa amin, talagang makikita namin mga pari nagbre-breviary, paikot-ikot sa harap ng Simbahan reciting the breviary...]
GANON PA RIN NAMAN NGAYON. THEY ARE STILL DOING THAT. SIGURO ANG PARI NYO AY GINAGAWA YON SA CHAPEL OR CHURCH HINDI AROUND THE CHURCH.
[Thanks po, Father!]
WELCOME.
Kasi yung sa televised Masses they are adding words to the proper prayers of the Missal. They are altering some formularies.
ReplyDeleteTHAT IS WRONG. YOU SHOULD WRITE A FORMAL LETTER TO THE PRIEST ADDRESSED TO THE STATION AND THE BISHOP WHERE THE TV STATION IS LOCATED.
ReplyDeleteTHESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE NOBODY BRING THEM TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BISHOP AND NOBODY COMPLAINS.
WE CAN EFFECT CHANGE NOT BY JOINING REBEL SOCIETY BUT BUT BEING AN AGENT OF CHANGE INSIDE THE CHURCH LIKE ST. FRANCIS AND OUR SAINTS.
THE POPE MENTIONED ABOUT 'THE SMOKE OF SATAN HAS ENTERED THE CHURCH'. THAT IS A PROPHECY AND A STATEMENT OF FACT.
ReplyDeleteYOu are the Liar! where is your proof that it is a prophesy? If you are not lying, then you are not logical.. You are only making your own interpretation of the Pope's statement. Abe the Liar! the demonic Fat man!
FIRST, POPE PAUL VI PROPHESIED ABOUT THE COMING REBELLION THAT LATER LEFEBVRE WILL PERPETRATE.
kahit sino pang itatanong mo.. kahit si Pope Benedict XVI pa itatanong mo di cya sang ayon sayo..
It is evident that this man so called Abe or "Fr Abe" or what ever you call IT.. Abe the Fat Man wacky old-looking fool! to the second level major major..
Look!!! "The smoke of Satan HAS ENTERED the Church", not "the smoke of Satan will enter the Church" sabi mo Lefebvre is outside the CHurch? how come he has entered the CHurch??!
SINUGNALING!!! alam ko hindi mo ito ipost bcoz u are Certified Public Liar!
TAMA nga ako hindi mo nga pinost...
Forgive me Fr, you may not post this, but i just want you to realize that you can err too. Fr it is a fact that Our Holy Mother Church is penetrated by enemies. The truth is WE ARE under attack. Our enemies is inside the Church pretending to be bishops and cardinals (though they are validly ordained) This events that happen in our days are already prophesied Fr. Pope Paul VI was right that the smoke of Satan has enter the Church. I am not naming names Fr but its a fact.
Sana you will realize. Forgive me for my foul words but i found it necessary for you to wake up...
[Sana you will realize. Forgive me for my foul words but i found it necessary for you to wake up...]
ReplyDeleteI FORGIVE YOU. DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL BECOME BELIEVABLE JUST BY CALLING ME THAT?
THE ANTI-CHRIST ARE THOSE WHO OPPOSE AND DISOBEY THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE BODY OF CHRIST. LEFEBVRE DISOBEYED AND HE WAS EXCOMMUNICATED.
YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT THE BISHOPS AND PRIESTS BEING ENEMIES OF THE CHURCH IS BASED ON CONSPIRACY THEORIES FED ON YOU BY THE SSPX AND THE SEDEVACANTISTS.
WELL, IF THAT IS THE CASE I STAND WITH THE VICAR OF CHRIST AND YOU GO ON WITH THAT ILLICIT GROUP... GO ON... CONTINUE YOUR REBELLION AGAINST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND BE CONVINCED THAT YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE SCHEMES OF THE ANTI-CHRIST.
It was even prophesied by our Lady in her various (and approved by the Church) apparitions that there are insiders in the Church who are leading it on the wrong way. "Bishops and priests will be fighting/opposing each other...
ReplyDeleteO NO, NO, NO... THE BLESSED VIRGIN DIDN'T SAY THAT. IT WAS ONLY THE SSPX AND THE SEDEVACANTISTS WHO ARE INVENTING SO CALLED MESSAGES OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY. THEIR ALLEGED MARIAN MESSAGES ARE FAKE.
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