The Spirit of Truth
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Good day Fr. Abe. Bajalina again here...
I read in one of Eli Soriano's websites saying that there is one thing that GOD cannot do and that is "GOD CANNOT LIE OR DECEIVE HIMSELF." They base this from the scriptures....
“That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie..." (Heb 6.18)
"In hope of eternal life, which God that cannot lie, promised before the world began.” (Titus 1.2)
Eli says that those who say that "Nothing is impossible with God" are misled. Because of this premise, he would imply that if one would say that ALL things are possible with God, logically does it mean is it possible that GOD can lie or deceive itself?
Because we as Catholics believe that God is omnipotent, ominiscient and omnipresent. In particular omniscience of God, if there is God cannot do and that he can deceive himself, then the doctrine of omniscience can be in question or would it be so?
And how can we say about the verse from the scriptures that all things are possible:
"Nothing is impossible with God..." (Lk 1.37) on the Annunciation story
"What is impossible for men is possible for God..." (Lk 18.27)...
Will it contradict GOD himself as all-knowing? Hope all who read your answer on this comment will be enlightened.
God Bless Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam...
- Fr. Abe, CRS said...
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[Good day Fr. Abe. Bajalina again here...]
GOOD DAY TOO.
[I read in one of Eli Soriano's websites saying that there is one thing that GOD cannot do and that is "GOD CANNOT LIE OR DECEIVE HIMSELF."]
IT ONLY SHOWS THE STUPIDITY OF MAMA ELI THE HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST NOW HIDING ABROAD FOR FEAR OF ARREST.
FIRST, HUMAN BEINGS' ACTION IS BASED ON 'CAN DO' AND 'CAN'T DO'. WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE WE RELY ON PHYSICAL ABILITIES. THERE IS AN EXTENT AND LIMIT OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND THEREFORE THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T DO.
THAT PRINCIPLE IS PROPER ONLY FOR CREATURES AND LIMITED BEINGS BUT NOT FOR GOD. BECAUSE IMPERFECTIONS IS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. DOING EVIL SUCH AS LYING, DECEIVING, STEALING ARE NOT MANIFESTATION OF POWER, GREATNESS BUT OF WEAKNESS.
NOW GOD IS PERFECT, ALL POWERFUL AND ALMIGHTY. SINCE HE IS PERFECT THERE IS NO EVIL IN HIM. THUS THE ABSENCE OF EVIL IN HIS BEING IS ACTUALLY THE PROOF OF HIS PERFECTION AND SUBLIME GOODNESS NOT A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. COMMITTING SIN IS NOT A POWER TO DO BUT INABILITY TO DO.
WHAT IS STUPID IN HIS ASSERTION IS THAT HE IS APPLYING TERMINOLOGIES PROPER FOR CREATURES TO THE CREATOR. HIS REASONING IS EVIL AND DEFECTIVE. FOR INSTANCE, GOD CANNOT LIE WHILE MAMA ELI SORIANO CAN LIE. SO WHO IS MORE POWERFUL BETWEEN GOD AND MAMA ELI? IF WE WILL FOLLOW HIS PRINCIPLE OF 'CAPABILITY' AND 'NON CAPABILITY' THEN MAMA ELI IS BETTER THAN GOD. THE DOG IS CAPABLE OF DYING AND GOD IS NOT CAPABLE OF DYING, THEN THE DOG IS BETTER THAN GOD IF WE WILL APPLY THE STUPID REASONING OF MAMA ELI.
PERFECTION AND ULTIMATE GREATNESS IS SHOWN BY THE ABSENCE OF WEAKNESS AND OF EVIL FOR THAT GOD IS PERFECT, THE GREATEST BEING AND THE MOST POWERFUL OF ALL BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIL OR WEAKNESS IN HIM. THERE IS NO LIMITATION IN GOD: HE IS INFINITE IN TIME [ETERNAL] AND INFINITE IN SPACE [IMMENSITY].
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[They base this from the scriptures....
“That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie..." (Heb 6.18)]
IT MEANS THAT GOD IS PERFECTLY TRUE. TO BE A LIAR IS NOT A SIGN OF POWER BUT A PROOF OF WEAKNESS. GOD IS MORE POWERFUL THAN MAMA ELI WHO IS A LIAR.
THE REASON WHY THE WORD IMMUTABLE IS USED IN GOD. BECAUSE WE HUMAN BEINGS ARE 'MUTABLE', WE ARE CAPABLE OF CHANGE: ONE TIME TELLING THE TRUTH AND ANOTHER TIME TELLING A LIE. GOD IS IMMUTABLE IT MEANS HE IS UNCHANGING... HE IS TRUE YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. THAT'S THE REAL POWER THAN BEING CAPABLE OF LYING WHICH IS NOT POWER BUT WEAKNESS AND STUPIDITY.
- TELLING THE TRUTH AND SPEAKING A LIE IS ACTUALLY ONE ACT ONLY, THAT IS, SPEAKING. THE DIFFERENCE IS NOT ON THE ACT BUT ON A QUALITY OF THE ACT. ONE IS TRUTHFUL WHILE THE OTHER IS DEVOID OF TRUTH. SINCE GOD IS TRUTH THERE IS NO LIE PRESENT IN HIS ACT OR HIS SPEECH.
["In hope of eternal life, which God that cannot lie, promised before the world began.” (Titus 1.2)]
IT MEANS THAT GOD IS CONSTANT IN BEING THE ULTIMATE GOOD AND THE SOURCE OF ALL GOOD. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT GOD IS TRUTH ITSELF AND CONSTANT IN HIS BEING TRUTHFUL.
THE CAPACITY TO LIE AS IN THE CASE OF MAMA ELI WHO IS HIDING FOR HOMOSEXUAL RAPE IS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS. THAT IS ONLY PROPER FOR IMPERFECT AND SINFUL BEINGS.
[Eli says that those who say that "Nothing is impossible with God" are misled. Because of this premise, he would imply that if one would say that ALL things are possible with God, logically does it mean is it possible that GOD can lie or deceive itself?]
HA, HA, HA... THE MORE HE SHOWS HIS STUPIDITY. BECAUSE EVIL IS NOT A 'THING'. EVIL IS NOT SOMETHING. EVIL IS NOTHING. ONLY GOOD IS BEING WHILE EVIL IS MERE ABSENCE OF GOOD.
GOD CAN DO 'ALL THINGS' MEANING GOD DOES EVERYTHING GOOD AND PERFECT. THE IDIOT DOES NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE TERM 'GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING'. IT IS VERY FAR FROM SAYING: 'GOD CAN DO EVIL'.
GOD CAN DO ALL THINGS YES BUT WE DO NOT TEACH THAT GOD CAN DO ALL ''EVIL'. LYING IS NOT A THING IT IS MERELY AN ACT THAT IS DEVOID OF TRUTH. WHAT EXIST IS THE SPEECH NOT FOUNDED ON TRUTH. WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR SPEAKING? MOUTH, TONGUE, LIPS, VOCAL CHORDS, ETC. GOD CAN CREATE EACH OF THEM. SO HE CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS.
LYING IS NOT A THING. IT IS A MERE ABSENCE OF TRUTH IN A STATEMENT UTTERED.
[Because we as Catholics believe that God is omnipotent, ominiscient and omnipresent. In particular omniscience of God, if there is God cannot do and that he can deceive himself, then the doctrine of omniscience can be in question or would it be so?]
O NO, NO, NO... MAMA ELI IS AN IDIOT IN PHILOSOPHY BECAUSE HE IS A HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUT. HE DIDN'T STUDY LOGIC. HA, HA, HA..
FIRST, OMNIPOTENT MEANS GOD IS THE MOST POWERFUL. NOW, LYING, DECEIVING, STEALING IS NOT POWER BUT WEAKNESS. SO, THE TERM OMNIPOTENT MEANS GOD IS DOING ALL THINGS WITHOUT EVIL. THE TERM IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE BIBLICAL VERSES. WHILE THE TERM OMNISCIENT MEANS GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING. BUT WHAT IS THAT KNOWLEDGE? IT IS FULLNESS OF TRUTH. DECEPTION IS NOT TRUTH SO THERE IS NO DECEPTION IN GOD. IT MAKES GOD BETTER THAN THOSE LIMITED BY THE EVIL OF LYING AND DECEIVING.
[And how can we say about the verse from the scriptures that all things are possible:
"Nothing is impossible with God..." (Lk 1.37) on the Annunciation story]
IT MEANS TWO THINGS:
1. EVERY 'THING' IS POSSIBLE WITH GOD. WHEN WE REFER TO THINGS IT IS NOT JUST CONFINED TO MATERIAL THINGS BUT IT REFERS TO EVERY BEING... TO ALL THINGS THAT EXIST. GOD CREATED EVERYTHING THAT EXIST.
2. 'NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD' MEANS WHAT IS CONTRARY TO THE BEING OF THINGS HAS NO ROOM IN THE VERY LIFE OF GOD. EVIL SUCH AS LYING, STEALING, DECEIVING ARE NOTHING, i.e., they are mere absence of things that are supposed to be there. INDEED, IN GOD NOTHING DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE HE IS THE GOD OF EVERY BEING, OF EVERY EXISTENCE... OF EVERY THING NOT OF NOTHING.
["What is impossible for men is possible for God..." (Lk 18.27)...]
IT IS SUPPORTIVE OF OUR POSITION.
IS COMPLETE AVOIDANCE OF LYING POSSIBLE FOR MAN? NO. THEN, TOTAL OR COMPLETE AVOIDANCE OF LYING IS POSSIBLE FOR GOD.
PERFECTION IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR MAN SO IT IS POSSIBLE FOR GOD.
[Will it contradict GOD himself as all-knowing?]
DEFINITELY NOT. IT ALL THE MORE SUPPORTS THE OMNIPOTENT AND OMNISCIENT AND ETERNITY OF GOD.
[Hope all who read your answer on this comment will be enlightened.]
I DO HOPE SO.
[God Bless Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam...]
PRO DEO ET ECCLESIA!
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biblically speaking, in simple terms..
ReplyDeletemeron bang hindi mgagawa ang Dios?
ang sabi sa biblia meron..
ang sagot, IMPOSIBLE MAGSINUNGALING ANG DIOS..
yun ang sagot..pero hindi ibig sabihin Magiging Mababa ang Power ng Dios..GOD IS PURE GOOD..
kaya kapag may nagsabi lahat MAGAGAWA NG DIOS..mali yon..
biblically speaking..hwag lang lilikutin yung nakasulat..
ang liwanag eh..IMPOSIBLE, CANNOT LIE..edi hindi pwde..bakit kaya ayaw maniwala ng iba? NAKASULAT NAKA..NO NEED TO EXLPAIN.
[biblically speaking, in simple terms..]
ReplyDeleteHINDI NGA SIMPLE ANG SAGOT NI MAMA ELI. KASI HINDI NYA NILILINAW KUNG BAKIT ANG DIOS AY 'ALMIGHTY' AYON SA BIBLIA TAPOS SASABIHIN NYA NA MERONG HINDI MAGAGAWA. SA IBANG TALATA SINASABING 'NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD' TAPOS IPIPILIT NIYA NA MERONG IMPOSIBLE SA DIOS.
HE IS WEAKENING THE ALMIGHTY POWER OF GOD.
[meron bang hindi mgagawa ang Dios?
ang sabi sa biblia meron..]
DIYAN MAKIKITA ANG KATANGAHAN NI MAMA ELI.
KASI PINAGHIHIWALAY NIYA ANG DIVINE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD. ANG DIOS AY ALMIGHTY OR ALL-POWERFUL BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALL-HOLY. THAT IS INTERCONNECTED. ALL POWERFUL BUT WITHOUT SIN.
ANOTHER THING IS THAT HE IS PUTTING ON EQUAL BASIS GOOD ACTS AND SINFUL ACTS. THE CONCEPT OF BEING ALL-POWERFUL ACTUALLY SIGNIFIES ABSENCE OF SIN YET HE IS DEMONICALLY INSISTING THAT TO BE ALL-POWERFUL IT MUST INCLUDE THE ABILITY AND CAPACITY TO COMMIT SIN.
HE IS DEMEANING THE BEING OF GOD.
[ang sagot, IMPOSIBLE MAGSINUNGALING ANG DIOS..]
TALAGANG HINDI NAGSISINUNGALING ANG DIOS SUBALIT SI MAMA ELI ANG NAGSISINUNGALING. HE CANNOT RECONCILE THE ALL-HOLINESS OF GOD AND HIS BEING ALL-POWERFUL. THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO SIN IN GOD IS ACTUALLY THE PROOF THAT HE IS ALL-POWERFUL YET FOR MAMA ELI HE TEACHES THAT 'GOD IS NOT ALMIGHT OR ALL-POWERFUL OR THAT HE CANNOT DO EVERY THING.' OF COURSE GOD CAN DO EVERY THING BECAUSE ALL THE THINGS OF THIS WORLD HE CREATED. SIN CAME LATER AS A CONSEQUENCES OF HUMAN ACTS CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD. IT MEANS IT IS NOT A THING BUT A PRIVATION.
[yun ang sagot..pero hindi ibig sabihin Magiging Mababa ang Power ng Dios..GOD IS PURE GOOD..]
ReplyDeleteMALI. KASI ISINAMA NYO SA CONCEPT NG 'GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING' ANG SINNING. THE DOCTRINE THAT GOD CAN DO EVERYTHING REMOVES ANY SUPPOSITION OF LIMITATION IN GOD. WHILE THE INTERPRETATION OF MAMA ELI ENTAILS LIMITATION ON THE PART OF GOD. SINLESSNESS IS NOT LIMITATION BUT PERFECTION.
MAKITID ANG UTAK NI MAMA ELI PANG GRADE ONE ANG LOGIC.
[kaya kapag may nagsabi lahat MAGAGAWA NG DIOS..mali yon..]
TAMA YON. KASI HINDI NAMAN GAWAIN NG DIOS ANG MAGKASALA. KAYA HINDI IYON KASAMA SA POSSIBILITY NIYA. ANG CONCEPT NG KASALANAN AY SA TAO AT SA ANGHEL LANG POSIBLE HINDI SA DIOS.
ANG SALITANG GOD CANNOT LIE SIMPLY EXALTS THE SINLESSNESS OF GOD SUBALIT HINDI NITO TINUTURO NA IYON AY LIMITATION ON THE PART OF GOD. PAG SINABI NI MAMA ELI NA MERONG HINDI MAGAGAWA ANG DIOS THAT IS GIVING LIMIATION TO THE POWER OF GO.
[biblically speaking..hwag lang lilikutin yung nakasulat..]
KAYA NGA DALAWA ANG NAKASULAT E HINDI LANG ISA:
1. ["In hope of eternal life, which God that cannot lie, promised before the world began.” (Titus 1.2)]
2. "What is impossible for men is possible for God..." (Lk 18.27)
PAREHO YAN. PINAGBABASEHAN MO ANG NUMBER 1 SUBALIT WINAWALANG SAYSAY MO NAMAN ANG NUMBER 2.
MAGKASAMA YAN.
WALANG SINASABI SA TITUS 1:2 NA "MERONG HINDI MAGAGAWA ANG DIOS" O NA MALI ANG DOCTRINANG "GOD CAN DO ALL THINGS". ST. PAUL SIMPLY PROCLAIMS THE SINLESSNESS OF GOD. MAMA ELI DISTORTED ITS ORIGINAL INTENT AND INSTEAD QUESTIONED THE 'ALMIGHT POWER OF GOD'.
ANG DOCTRINANG 'GOD CAN DO ALL THINGS' IS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO CREATION - THAT GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH, AND ALL THINGS VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE. ANG KATANGAHAN NI MAMA ELI HE APPLIED HIS MISINTERPRETATION OF TITUS 1:2 TO THIS DOCTRINE. HE IS OUT OF CONTEXT AND OUT OF LINE.
[ang liwanag eh..IMPOSIBLE, CANNOT LIE..]
HA, HA, HA... WALANG SINABI DIYAN NA HINDI MAGAGAWA NG DIOS ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY E MALIWANAG NGA NA "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD". SA MABUTING BALITA:
"Sapagkat WALANG HINDI MAPANGYAYARI ang DIOS." Lucas 1:37
KAYA KATANGAHAN NA ITURO NA MERONG HINDI MAPANGYAYARI ANG DIOS. ANO ANG DAPAT ITURO? ANO ANG TAMANG INTERPRETASYON NG TITUS 1:2? ANG DIOS AY WALANG KASALANAN. YUN LANG.
SA TITUS 1:2 ANG DIOS AY WALANG KASALANAN.
SA LUCAS 1:37 WALANG HINDI MAPANGYAYARI ANG DIOS.
E DI WALANG SALUNGATAN. WALANG LIMITATION ON THE PART OF GOD. HE IS PERFECT, SINLESS AND ALL-POWERFUL AT THE SAME TIME UNDER THE SAME RESPECT.
[edi hindi pwde..]
TALAGANG HINDI PWEDENG MAGSINUNGALING ANG DIOS SUBALIT MALI NA SABIHING MERON SIYANG HINDI KAYANG GAWIN. LAGPAS NA YON SA NASUSULAT. WAG LALAGPAS SA NASUSULAT. HE, HE, HE...
HINDI NAMAN GAWAIN NG DIOS ANG PAGSISINUNGALING. YAN AY GAWAIN NG DIABLO AT NG MGA TAONG MAKASALANAN.
[bakit kaya ayaw maniwala ng iba? NAKASULAT NAKA..NO NEED TO EXLPAIN.]
NAKO, NAPAKA BABAW NG PAG-IISIP. PINAPAHAYAG NI PABLO NA HINDI MARUNONG MAGSINUNGALING ANG DIOS... YAN AY POSITIVE. MEANING: GOD IS ALL-GOOD, ALL-HOLY. BINABOY NI MAMA ELI. GINAWANG: "MERONG HINDI MAGAGAWA ANG DIOS". HA, HA, HA... BINAGO ANG INTENSIYON NI PABLO. GINAWA NIYANG NEGATIVE SA DIOS. IMBES NA POSITIVE NAGING NEGATIVE. NA-DENY PA TULOY ANG ALMIGHTY POWER OF GOD.
yan ang nangayari sa mga taga ADD na masyadong literal ang interpretasyon sa Bibliya, kung ano mabasa ayun na kaya yung diyos nila e may puwit at nanganganak at binigyan pa ng kahinaan ang diyos, ang positibo ginawang negatibo...mga nabulid na sa kadiliman ang mga utak nito...
ReplyDeleteKaya nga mahirap ipaliwanag ang nakasulat sa bibliya, kailangang merong nagtuturo at taga gabay na simbahan kong ano dapat ang ibig sabihin, kasi kong sariling interpretasyon lang ang gagamitin, aba eh, baka heresy ang kahahantungan mo.
ReplyDeleteMagandang pagpapaliwanag Father. . .
Magandang araw po ulit Padre. Kakaiba talaga ang oryentsyon ng mga taga ANG DATING DAAN NA NILAKARAN NG MASASAMANG TAO pag dating sa Dios. Biruin po ninyo, ang Dios daw may matris, puwit, pangil at kaliskis. Meron din daw po siyang hindi alam. Si Jesus naman daw po eh nung nakapako sa krus eh masama at nakaramdam daw po Siya ng halay. Kaya rin daw po hindi pumayag si Jesus na hawakan Siya ni Maria Magdalena ay baka raw po makuryente.Hindi lamang po iyan, yun daw pong naramdaman ng lalaki, babae, bakla at tomboy eh naramdaman daw po Niya! Grabe pong pamumusong ano Padre?
ReplyDelete-RCCKnight
HABANG TUMATAGAL AY KUNG ANO ANONG MGA KABALIWAN ANG TINUTURO.
ReplyDeletePURIHIN ANG PANGINOON BRO. NOEL.
ReplyDeleteFr. Abe goodDay po!
ReplyDeletenkakatawa nman po...verry obvious nman po yata n tlagang walang pinag-aralan..hehehe.. n remember ko po nung inimbitahan ako ng kakilala s ADD Center nila, curious kasi ako kung panu sila mag simba... pagpasok ko po may attendance sheet n susulatan, nasabi ko po s k kilala ko n "may attendance pala dito?s amin s katoliko wala!"hehehe... ang simba po s kanila ay manunod lng ng Vedio tape ni Ingkong ELi.hehehe..kung ano ang ginagawa ng nsa video ginagaya po nila gaya nung lumuhod ang nsa video,lumuhod din po sila..hehehe.. pagsamba n s kanila yon.hehehe
ngayon po wala npo ang center nila n malapit lng s Sto.Rosaryo Parish Toril,kasi kahit anung gawin nila hindi po lilipat s kanila ang mga katoliko, lage kasing binabaha ng mga nagsisimba pag linggo bawat Misa s parokya.hehehe..kaya yon , lumipat cguro ng ibang lugar.hehehe
KITAM, GANYAN PALA SUMAMBA ANG MGA TUTA NI MAMA ELI. HA, HA, HA...
ReplyDeleteface bro.eli soriano in a debate..
ReplyDeletenot on the back..
truth will always prevail!
to god be the glory!
IF YOU WANT ME TO FACE MAMA ELI ON THE FRONT THEN TELL HIM TO CONFRONT ME FACE TO FACE. TELL HIM TO STOP HIDING IN HELL.
ReplyDeleteHE DOES NOT EVEN SAY WHERE HE IS AND THEN YOU DARE TO TELL ME THAT I AM FIGHTING YOUR MAMA ELI AT THE BACK. EXCUSE ME.
SI MAMA ELI ANG NAGTATAGO HINDI AKO.