Pope Benedict XVI in Barcelona, Spain
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Obviously you are a member of the majority who wish to crucify the true Catholic church which subsists in the SSPX and other traditionalist groups. Why don't you go join the masonic Cardinal Bugnini and the other judases of the Church wishing to betray all true Catholics for the expense of the truth. Oh! by the way I'm not a coward, my name is Br. John Mark Hair S.F.O., and even though I don't agree with Bishop Williamson, I believe your attempt to slander the SSPX which most certainly is the only faithful Catholic order left in the world who haven't bought into this oneworld religion lie, and compremised with false religions such as Islam, Judaism, and Protestantism as well as so-called orthodoxy is nothing more than liberal blustering is unfounded unwarranted and sacrelege. My email is anglocross1210@aol.com. Anyone with half a brain left wishing to discuss this honestly without cheepshots, feel free to email me. There is no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church. As the Catholic Church is the only Church Christ founded Matt. 16:18, and Christ is the way not a way John 14:6, and no salvation is found other then in him Acts 4:12, as his Body the Church it follows that: No salvation outside Christ, no salvation outside his body. Think about it before you jump on the bandwagon to make a name for yourself liking the praises of men rather then doing what is right and not rejoicing over the persecutions of a bishop, particularly since you are only a priest and therefore lower than the bishop. It is a shame that Christ's Church should be divided by such as yourself. Note: I will not discuss false doctrine or heresy with anyone writing to me except to condemn what the Church condemns. signed Br. John Mark Hair S.F.O.
- Fr. Abe, CRS said...
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[Obviously you are a member of the majority who wish to crucify the true Catholic church which subsists in the SSPX and other traditionalist groups.]
OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A FOOL. HA, HA, HA... SINCE WHEN DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SUBSISTS IN THE SSPX? HA, HA, HA... YOU SEE HERETICS LIKE YOU ARE FOND OF INVENTING DOCTRINES.
IMAGINE, HOW IDIOTIC YOU ARE. THE SSPX REJECTS THE FORMULA 'subsistit' FOR THE CHURCH IN THE DOCUMENT LUMEN GENTIUM YET HERE YOU ARE SWALLOWING YOUR OWN VOMIT BY ATTRIBUTING 'SUBSISTIT' FOR SSPX. HOW DARE YOU! SHAME ON YOU!
IN WHAT DOGMATIC PRONOUNCEMENTS DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACH THAT SHE SUBSISTS IN THE SSPX?
YOU ARE SHAMELESS IN YOUR LIES AND DECEITS. YOUR DOGMATIC DELUSIONS HAVE REACHED YOUR NERVE IN THE BRAIN.
[Why don't you go join the masonic Cardinal Bugnini]
THE SO-CALLED MASONIC MEMBERSHIP OF ARCH. BUGNINI IS INVENTED BY SSPX AND THE SEDEVACANTISTS TO JUSTIFY THEIR LITURGICAL REBELLION.
BUGNINI IS AN ARCHBISHOP NOT A CARDINAL SO I AM SURPRISED BY YOUR IGNORANCE OF THIS BASIC FACT.
YOU ARE SO CONVINCED BY THE LIES THAT YOU YOURSELVES HAVE INVENTED.
[and the other judases of the Church wishing to betray all true Catholics for the expense of the truth.]
LEFEVBRE IS THE JUDAS OF THIS CONTEMPORARY TIME. HE IS THE TRAITOR TO THE CHURCH.
[Oh! by the way I'm not a coward, my name is Br. John Mark Hair S.F.O.,]
VERY GOOD. AT LEAST I KNOW YOUR NAME IF IT IS TRULY YOUR NAME AND IDENTITY.
[and even though I don't agree with Bishop Williamson, I believe your attempt to slander the SSPX which most certainly is the only faithful Catholic order left in the world who haven't bought into this oneworld religion lie,]
HA, HA, HA... YOU ARE ALREADY IDIOTIC. WHO TOLD YOU THAT WE BOUGHT THIS 'ONE WORLD RELIGION LIE'. HA, HA, HA... THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE BUSY CONVERTING TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THE NON CATHOLICS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE 'ONE AND ONLY CHURCH'... THAT IS THE DOGMA OF OUR FAITH.
DON'T IMPOSE ON US YOUR OWN STUPIDITIES AND HALLUCINATIONS.
[and compremised with false religions such as Islam, Judaism, and Protestantism as well as so-called orthodoxy is nothing more than liberal blustering is unfounded unwarranted and sacrelege.]
STUPID AGAIN. DIALOGUE IS NOT COMPROMISING BUT CONVINCING. ONLY FOOLS REJECT DIALOGUE. WE NEVER COMPROMISED; IT SO HAPPENED THAT THE SSPX ARE IRRATIONAL THAT THEY REFUSE INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUES. THEY PREFER INTER-RELIGIOUS WAR. THE POSITION OF SSPX IS DEMONIC IN NATURE AND IN ORIGIN. IT IS INHUMAN AND IRRATIONAL.
[My email is anglocross1210@aol.com. Anyone with half a brain left wishing to discuss this honestly without cheepshots, feel free to email me.]
BETTER DISCUSS IT HERE. DON'T HIDE IN PERSONALIZED MESSAGES. SHOW YOUR TRUTH IN PUBLIC. LET ME SEE IF YOU REALLY POSSESS HALF OF HUMAN BRAIN.
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[There is no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church.]
THAT IS WHY BY THAT STANDARD LEFEBVRE IS IN HELL BECAUSE HE DIED OUTSIDE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. HE DIED EXCOMMUNICATED.
AND THAT IS WHY THE SSPX IS IN DANGER OF HELL BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN FULL COMMUNION WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[As the Catholic Church is the only Church Christ founded Matt. 16:18,]
THAT PROMISE WAS GIVEN TO PETER AND TO THE OFFICE OF PETER. IT IS THE POPE THAT CARRIES THAT AUTHORITY AND NOT LEFEBVRE AND DEFINITELY NOT BERNARD FELLAY. SO YOUR SOUL IS IN DANGER.
[and Christ is the way not a way John 14:6,]
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC DOGMA SAYS THAT CHRIST IS THE 'THE WAY' -- THE ONLY WAY. WE NEVER TAUGHT THAT CHRIST IS 'A WAY'. NEVER. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES THAT JESUS IS 'A WAY'? WHO? TELL ME.
[and no salvation is found other then in him Acts 4:12,]
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TEACHING AND PREACHING. SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
[as his Body the Church it follows that: No salvation outside Christ, no salvation outside his body.]
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TEACHING. THAT IS WHY THE SSPX IS IN DANGER BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE THE BODY OF CHRIST.
[Think about it before you jump on the bandwagon to make a name for yourself liking the praises of men rather then doing what is right]
I AM NOT JUMPING ON ANYTHING. I AM WELL SECURED IN MY CATHOLIC FAITH IN FULL COMMUNION WITH THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO JUMPED TO THE SSPX. SO, TELL THAT TO YOURSELF.
I AM NOT ENJOYING THE PRAISES OF MEN. IN THIS BLOG I RECEIVE BOTH PRAISES AND CURSES AND JEERS... WHO CARES ABOUT IT? I AM ONLY DOING MY DUTY AS A DEFENDER OF THE FAITH.
[and not rejoicing over the persecutions of a bishop,]
HE IS NOT OUR BISHOP. HE IS THE BISHOP OF A TREACHEROUS GROUP. AND WE DO NOT ACCEPT WHAT HE HAS DONE. WE ARE NO PRO-HITLER.
[particularly since you are only a priest and therefore lower than the bishop.]
HA, HA, HA... IF LEFEBVRE IS NOT OBEYING THE POPE HOW CAN YOU EXPECT ME TO RESPECT AND OBEY YOUR BISHOPS. IF YOU WANT TO BE RESPECTED, LEARN HOW TO RESPECT THE PROPER AUTHORITIES OF THE CHURCH. SHOW EXAMPLE. DON'T BE HYPOCRITES.
[It is a shame that Christ's Church should be divided by such as yourself.]
HA, HA, HA... EXCUSE ME. IT IS LEFEBVRE WHO SATANICALLY COMMITTED EXCOMMUNICABLE ACTS AND YOUR PRESENT BISHOPS WERE PARTICIPANTS OF THOSE DEMONIC ACTS THEN YOU WILL ACCUSE US OF DIVIDING THE CHURCH. HA, HA, HA....
THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH IS ACTIVE WITH OUR COMMUNION WITH THE SEE OF PETER. THE SSPX IS OUTSIDE OF IT.
[Note: I will not discuss false doctrine or heresy with anyone writing to me except to condemn what the Church condemns. signed Br. John Mark Hair S.F.O.]
THAT IS EXACTLY MY POSITION. THAT IS WHY WE REJECT THE SSPX BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN FULL COMMUNION WITH THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER. IT IS LIVING IN A CONDEMNABLE STATE.
Signed: REV. FR. ABE P. ARGANIOSA, CRS
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Father Did NOT Archbishop Bugnini Made some Mistakes In Creating the Novus Ordo?
ReplyDeleteJOSEMARIA,
ReplyDeleteWHAT ARE THOSE MISTAKES?
1. SIMPLIFYING THE MASS AS HE WAS DIRECTED BY THE HOLY FATHER, PAUL VI, WAS NOT A MISTAKE BUT A GOOD JOB DONE.
2. USING THE VERNACULAR IN THE MASS IS BIBLICAL, HISTORICAL, PATRISTIC AND LITURGICALLY SOUND. THAT IS GOOD. IT IS THE DOCTRINE OF 'LATIN ALONE' WHICH IS WRONG. THE CHURCH NEVER APPLIED THE DOCTRINE OF 'LATIN ALONE'.
3. HAVING A SECOND READING IN THE MASS EVERY SUNDAY AND FESTIVITIES IS A GOOD DECISION TOO. AS WELL AS HAVING THE RESPONSORIAL PSALM.
ONLY THOSE WHOSE MIND ARE INFESTED BY THE DEMON OF REBELLIOUSNESS LIKE LEFEBVRE AND THE SSPX CONSIDER THESE THINGS AS MISTAKES OR EVIL. NO, NO, NO, NO... THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOOD.
MUCH MORE, YOUR STATEMENT 'CREATING THE NOVUS ORDO' IS WRONG. THE NOVUS ORDO IS MADE EXACTLY LIKE THE TLM. IT IS ACTUALLY A SIMPLIFIED VERSION OF THE TLM:
1. Entrance Procession
2. Kissing of the Altar
3. Sign of the Cross
4. Greeting
5. Penitential Rite
6. Kyrie
7. Gloria
8. Prayer
9. Readings:
a) First Readings mostly from Old Testament
b) Responsorial Psalms from the Psalter of David
c) Second Readings from the Epistles
d) Alleluia
e) Gospel
10. Sermon or Homily
11. Creed
12. Prayer of the Faithful
13. Offertory & Prayer Over the Gifts
14. Preface
15. Sanctus
16. Anaphora or Canon
17. Pater Noster
18. Agnus Dei
19. Holy Communion
20. Final Prayer
21. Blessing
22. Kissing of the Altar
23. Processional
TELL ME, WHICH OF THAT ARE BAD,EVIL OR NOT FOUNDED ON SACRED TRADITION? ARE THE PSALMS NOT FOUNDED ON TRADITION? HOW ABOUT THE PRAYER OF THE FAITHFUL?
EVERY SINGLE DETAIL OF NOVUS ORDO COMES FROM TLM OR OTHER LITURGICAL TRADITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. LEFEBVRE IS JUST TO SENILE TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
I am extremely surprised someone calling himself "loyal" to the teachings of the Church lambasted you Father. I never heard any Catholic priest insulting another Catholic in public. This only shows that the SSPX are not Catholic. They are traitors of the Faith.
ReplyDeleteGood defense Father Abe, good job! God bless you and your priestly ministry.
THANK YOU SO BRO. CATHOLIC DEFENDER.
ReplyDeleteCardinal Vidal lends his support to the SSPX's Rosary Crusade against the Reproductive Health Bill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRS67QP9068
ReplyDeleteAs does Archbishop Aniceto: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8aXZQJHXjk
Dear Br. John Mark Hair S.F.O
ReplyDeleteIt is your group and other few Traditionalist are the one trying to destroy our ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH THE ONE FOUNDED BY OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF HIS VICAR HERE ON EARTH. The one founded your group SSPX died EXCOMMUNICATED LEFEBVRE. Others who Founded Catholic Institutions or Religeous group most of them become Saints. By the way I have known and it is the fact Fr. Abe congregation clerics Regular of Somasca is founded by St. Jerome Emilliani.
The biggest Sin of your founder is not following and RESPECTING THE DECISION OF THE POPE AND DECISION OF THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE NOVUS ORDO MASS, By the way your beloved founder signed also only later He rejected it( Your group has new excuse He signed the attendance sheet only ha ha ha). By doing so He created another sin He now put in question the authority of the Pope. So to make it short Who gave that Authority to The POPE OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST RIGHT? or now you also do not believe the Words of our LORD JESUS OR THE BIBLE? Because your group do not recognize the authority of the POPE YOUR GROUP STILL CAN NOT ACCEPT THE VALIDITY OF THE EXCUMMUNICATION OF YOUR FOUNDER ISNT IT? You can accept it or not but it is still a fact He died excummunicated.
Now by the Act of Charity of our POPE BENEDICT 16, Lifted the excummunication to your 5 Bishops including your beloved Bishop Williamson
by believing they will make effort for the full cummunion to RCC. But what good action your beloved Bishop done nothing except to be interviewed and give his views about nazism/Hitler, class act of your beloved lord bishop very nice indeed. So now kindly tell us what good measure your group doing for us to believe and feel that we belong to ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH? Because we also cannot accept your rebellion to our POPE. And unless your Bishop under the leadershp of our Cardinal and your Priest under our deocess Bishop we will never attend your illicit functions. And Please stop pretending you belong to us. You cannot accept the Authority of the POPE but you keep on using Him on attracting people to join your group.
Lastly I quoted you statements to Fr. Abe [particularly since you are only a priest and therefore lower than the bishop ) I also want to tell you that since your only a Brother therefore lower than the Priest still I show you respect because you are religeous man, I hope you are (Proffesed Brother or studying for Priesthood). The actions of your beloved Bishop not only unacceptable to Fr. Abe But to the whole world not only to the Catholics but other religion also so stop covering for him.
I Pray to OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, To Mama Mary The Mother Of GOD and to All Angels and Saints
that someday we are trully belong to ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH THE BODY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Maria Remedios Aquirre
LOOK AT HOW THESE SSPX DECEIVE PEOPLE.
ReplyDeleteWHEN THEY ARE ATTACKING THE BISHOPS AND CARDINALS ON LITURGY THEY CALL THEM LIBERALS AND MODERNISTS. NOW IN ORDER TO APPEAR AS IF THEY ARE CATHOLICS THEY ARE DROPPING THE NAMES OF OUR CARDINALS AND BISHOPS TO GAIN AN IOTA OF LEGITIMACY. HE, HE, HE... HYPOCRITES THE SSPX ARE. VERY HYPOCRITE.
OUR CARDINAL AND BISHOPS SUPPORTED THE ROSARY BUT NOT THE SSPX. THEIR CANONICAL PROBLEMS REMAIN. UNLESS IT IS SOLVED THERE WILL BE NO RECONCILIATION... THEY MUST RETURN TO FULL COMMUNION WITH PETER.
SHOWING VIDEOS OF OUR BISHOPS WITH THEIR DECEIVING PRIESTS IS SO IRONIC. IMAGINE, THEY HATE TO SEE OUR POPE AND BISHOPS AND PRIESTS DOING ECUMENICAL DIALOGUES WITH OTHERS. YET THEY ARE EAGER FOR VIDEO AND PHOTO OPS WITH THEM. TYPICAL SSPX HYPOCRISY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14CLNTDiyCY&feature=share
ReplyDeleteAno pong masasabi nyo dito na ang pasko ay galing lang sa pagan worshipping, moreover inaamin ng catholic church sa encyclopedia nila na di alam ang petsa ng panganganak kay Cristo, why conclude and celebrate dec 25 as birthday of Christ
NAKU, LAOS NA YAN. NABUGBOG NA DITO ANG MGA PANINIRA NA IYAN. DITO MO TIGNAN ANG AMING MGA SAGOT:
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