Wednesday, June 15, 2011

RAPID GROWTH OF THE CHURCH IN VIETNAM DESPITE THE MARTYRDOM AND PERSECUTION

The 117 Martyrs of Vietnam
 
Vietnam's Story of Corruption and Martyrdom
Director of AsiaNews Tells of Tolerance and Violence
ROME, JUNE 13, 2011 (Zenit.org).- Religious freedom is perhaps growing in Vietnam, but it depends on the caprices of the government.


So more than religious freedom, says Father Bernardo Cervellera, we can speak of a certain religious tolerance.


The director of AsiaNews explained this in an interview with the television program "Where God Weeps" of the Catholic Radio and Television Network (CRTN) in cooperation with Aid to the Church in Need.


Q: Some 10% of the Vietnamese population is Catholic. Things have improved, but is religious freedom possible in Vietnam today?


Father Cervellera: There are some improvements, for example, in the past few years the seminaries, which before were limited to a fixed number of candidates, have now been opened and there are more and more vocations. There is also a certain tolerance of the government toward, for example, medical care provided by the sisters, education in kindergartens and so on. I would say tolerance, not permission, [is the correct term]. In some ways there is more freedom but all these freedoms depend on the will of the government, which sometimes will allow or withdraw it.


Q: But there is still violence against Christians?


Father Cervellera: In some areas of Vietnam, for example in the north and among the hill tribes, there is still violence. In Sung La and other dioceses, and other smaller cities and villages, Catholics cannot celebrate Masses for Christmas or Easter and are prohibited from having catechesis and teaching their children the faith because the local government does not allow any expression of faith at all. In practical terms, they want to destroy the Catholic faith.


Q: From where do you get your information?


Father Cervellera: Our information comes from sources inside Vietnam. It is very dangerous for them to send us this information. Various dioceses in Vietnam have also been courageous enough to publish on their Internet sites news and speeches from their bishops, evaluations and criticism of some violations of religious freedom -- so through these Internet sites, we are also able to get news.


Q: You write in AsiaNews that anti-Catholic violence is often a consequence of corruption?


Father Cervellera: Most of the violence against the Catholic Church now in Vietnam happens because of graft and corruption of the Communist Party cadres. Vietnam is in transition. Prior to this transition there was a centralized communist economy. Now they are moving toward a capitalistic economy and because of this, many cadres of the Communist Party are taking over and becoming owners of buildings, which before belonged to the churches -- even Buddhist temples or buildings of other faiths. This is illegal because the law in Vietnam states that all these buildings or lands that have been expropriated from the Church or others are to be returned when these properties are no longer used by the state.


Q: And there we find the problem?


Father Cervellera: Yes, these communist cadres take these properties to be their own and develop them as resorts or villas to be later sold in the growing real estate market in Vietnam. The Church however is trying to claim these properties back. It has happened in Hanoi, Saigon, Vinh and in many places -- and the Catholics are right in their request. The response of the communist regime has been violent. They arrest, or beat these Catholics who have demanded a return of their lawful properties. A priest was thrown out of the second floor of a building while another priest was beaten into a coma. There is violence and it is a way of muzzling the voices and rights of these Catholics.


Q: Vietnamese Catholics need prayer.


Father Cervellera: Every persecuted Church needs support and first of all through prayer: prayers from the Church around the world because nobody can withstand the suffering and persecution from a lack of religious freedom without the strength that prayer gives. There is also another consideration: the fact that Vietnam now is becoming more and more a country with many international business relations -- these business relations should also be an avenue to communicate the importance of human rights and respect for religious freedom. In this way business will be better because, if freedom of religion is absent then all the other aspects of human rights, and also the freedom to engage in economic endeavors, is in peril.


Q: Is Vietnam's history of martyrdom one reason why the Church is growing rapidly?


Father Cervellera: I think so. Vietnam is, with China, one of the most persecuted Churches in Asia, at least in the last few centuries. In the 18th and 19th centuries, there were, perhaps, 200,000 Vietnamese martyrs. This martyrdom has been the seed for a new life of the Church. The second aspect that I think makes the life of the church in Vietnam so strong is its unity.


Q: Where does this unity come from?


Father Cervellera: This unity comes from the education that the Jesuits gave to them and also from the witnesses in the Church to the people of Vietnam throughout the history of the Church in Vietnam. Church personalities today receive more trust than government officials.


Q: One of the great witnesses was Cardinal François-Xavier Nguyễn Văn Thuận. Can you tell us something about his life?


Father Cervellera: He is one of the greatest personalities in contemporary Vietnam. François Nguyễn Văn Thuận was a priest and he became bishop some months before the invasion of the North Vietnamese into the South. He was the auxiliary bishop of Saigon during that period. Bishop Văn Thuận gave all to the service of the people in the South: to the poor, to children, for education, for the building of houses and so on.


Q: Why then was he put in prison?


Father Cervellera: He was imprisoned, first of all, because he was a relative of the last president of South Vietnam and secondly, because he was a bishop. He was a passionate advocate for his people and the people followed him, and this is why he was imprisoned for 13 years of which nine were spent in solitary confinement. Bishop Văn Thuận -- later Cardinal Văn Thuận -- wrote a great book, a journal, about his time in prison in which he says that in times of desperation, prayer was his sole consolation. He also mentions in this book how he celebrated Mass in secret and how his relatives sent him so called "medicines," which was in fact the wine, and how he saved prison bread for the host. It is a very moving journal, a very moving book. There is also one very moving element in this book: Many of his prison guards slowly became very friendly toward him and many converted because of his witness.


Q: What impression did he make on you when you met him?


Father Cervellera: He was very calm. I met him in Rome. If I remember correctly, the Vatican obtained his release with the stipulation by the Vietnamese government that he would never go back to Vietnam. I met him when he was the secretary of [the Pontifical Council for] Justice and Peace. He was, how can I say, very quiet but very deep in his insight and was always very committed to Vietnam. He would meet refugees here in Italy or people would come from all over the world to visit him. He was always working and always supporting the Church in Vietnam with, what I would say, was a very placid calmness as if to say: "We know that Christ will always be victorious. There is no hurry and no anguish."


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This interview was conducted by Marie-Pauline Meyer for "Where God Weeps," a weekly television and radio show produced by Catholic Radio and Television Network in conjunction with the international Catholic charity Aid to the Church in Need.

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On the Net:

Aid to the Church in Need: www.acn-intl.org

Where God Weeps: www.wheregodweeps.org/countries/vietnam

7 comments:

  1. magandang araw po father.

    Gusto ko sanang malaman ang kahulugan sa talata na nakasulat sa Isaias 66:17,kung totoo po bang mga Katoliko ang tinutukoy na kumakain ng karne ng baboy na MASUSUNOG SA APOY sa panahon ng paghuhukom ng Dios..,prophecy pa daw,,hindi pa nagaganap,,,magaganap pa sabi sa kaibigan kong SDA,,
    sana po father mabigyan mo po ng sagot para masagot ko rin po ang mga bintang sa mga kapitbahay at kaibigan kong SDA(seventh day adventists)

    Maraming salamat po!!!

    dan

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  2. MAGANDANG ARAW PO SA IYO FATHER.

    TANONG KO SANA KUNG:

    (1)NASA CATHOLIC CHURCH PARIN BA NG EL SHADDAI MOVEMENT NA UNDER SA PAMUMUNO NI MIKE VELARDE?...
    (2)TOTOO PO BANG MAY MGA PRACTICES ANG CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC RENEWAL MOVEMENT NA NACONTRADICT SA TOTOONG BELIEFS AND PRACTICES SA ATING SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO?

    MAY NABASA KASI AKONG SITE NA NAGSASABING MAY MGA KAMALIAN NA TINUTURO SA CCRM..

    MARAMING SALAMAT PO,,SANA BIGYAN NYO NG SAGOT KASI ISA RIN PO AKONG MIEMBRO SA CCRM....

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  3. 1. OFFICIALLY SPEAKING THE EL SHADDAI IS A CATHOLIC MOVEMENT.

    2. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE PRACTICES THAT CONTRADICT THE BELIEFS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. I DON'T THINK SO. PLEASE GIVE EXAMPLES IF YOU KNOW SOME.

    SIGURO NANINIRA LANG IYONG SITE NA IYON.

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  4. [magandang araw po father.]

    MAGANDANG ARAW DIN NAMAN.

    [Gusto ko sanang malaman ang kahulugan sa talata na nakasulat sa Isaias 66:17,]

    WELL, LET US READ THAT PASSAGE THEN:

    Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

    ITO AY TUNGKOL SA MGA NAGPA PRACTICE NG PAGAN WORSHIPS NA BAHAGI NG KANILANG PAGSAMBA SA MGA DIOS DIOSAN ANG SELF-PURIFICATIONS SA MGA KAKAHUYAN O MGA HALAMANAN, THEN KUMAKAIN SILA NG MGA HILAW NA KARNE NG BABOY AT MGA LIZARDS AT MGA DAGA.

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  5. [kung totoo po bang mga Katoliko ang tinutukoy na kumakain ng karne ng baboy na MASUSUNOG SA APOY sa panahon ng paghuhukom ng Dios..]

    HINDI TAYO YAN. KASI ANG ATING PAGSAMBA AY HINDI SA GARDEN KUNDI SA TEMPLO NG DIOS. ISA PA, ANG SABI SA NEXT PASSAGE AY MAGKAKALOOB ANG DIOS NG MGA PRIESTS. E TAYO ANG MAY PRIESTS. KAYA HINDI TAYO ANG KAAWAY NG DIOS:

    Isaiah 66:21 "I will make some of them priests and Levites." [Good News Bible]

    SA ATIN KUMUHA ANG DIOS NG MGA PARI AT HINDI SA SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS DAHIL WALA NAMAN SILANG PRIESTS. GALIT NGA SILA SA MGA PRIESTS. HE HE HE... AKO AY PRIEST OF GOD. HE HE HE...

    HINGGIL NAMAN SA PAGKAIN NG KARNE NG BABOY. ANG HALOS LAHAT NG MGA OLD TRANSLATIONS ANG GINAMIT AY SWINE, IBIG SABIHIN MGA WILD BOAR. ANG ORIGINAL NA HEBREW WORD NA GINAMIT AY:

    H2386
    חזיר
    chăzîyr
    khaz-eer'
    From an unused root probably meaning to inclose; a hog (perhaps as penned): - boar, swine.

    ANG ATING MGA BABOY AY HINDI WILD BOAR KUNDI GALING SA PIGGERY AT SA PUBLIC MARKET. PWEDENG KAININ ANG LAHAT NG NABIBILI SA MGA MARKET:

    1 Cor 10:25 You are free to eat anything sold in the meat market, without asking any questions because of your conscience. [Good News Bible]

    ANG WORD NA CARNE NAMAN ANG GINAMIT SA ORIGINAL AY FLESH WHICH SIGNIFIES NA HILAW NILANG KINAKAIN IYON KAYA KARUMALDUMAL. ITO ANG ORIGINAL NA HEBREW WORD:

    H1320
    בּשׂר
    bâśâr
    baw-sawr'
    From H1319; flesh (from its freshness); by extension body, person; also (by euphemism) the pudenda of a man: - body, [fat, lean] flesh [-ed], kin, [man-] kind, + nakedness, self, skin.

    SEE, THAT IS FLESH FROM ITS FRESHNESS...

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  6. E HINDI NAMAN TAYO KUMAKAIN NG CARNE NG BABOY NA HILAW. NILULUTO NATIN NA LECHON, LECHONG KAWALI, APRITADA, SINIGANG AT IBA PA. HE HE HE... ISA PA, YUNG MGA DATING BAWAL NA PAGKAIN AY PWEDE NANG KAININ SA NEW TESTAMENT:

    Act 10:9 Nang kinabukasan nga samantalang sila'y patuloy sa kanilang paglalakad, at nang malapit na sa bayan, si Pedro ay umakyat sa ibabaw ng bahay upang manalangin, nang may oras na ikaanim;
    Act 10:10 At siya'y nagutom at nagnais kumain: datapuwa't samantalang nangaghahanda sila, ay nawalan siya ng diwa;
    Act 10:11 At nakita niyang bukas ang langit, at may isang sisidlang bumababa, gaya ng isang malapad na kumot, na nakabitin sa apat na panulok na bumababa sa lupa:
    Act 10:12 Na doo'y naroroon ang lahat ng uri ng mga hayop na may apat na paa at ang mga nagsisigapang sa lupa at ang mga ibon sa langit.
    Act 10:13 At dumating sa kaniya ang isang tinig, Magtindig ka, Pedro; magpatay ka at kumain.
    Act 10:14 Datapuwa't sinabi ni Pedro, Hindi maaari, Panginoon; sapagka't kailan ma'y hindi ako kumain ng anomang bagay na marumi at karumaldumal.
    Act 10:15 At muling dumating sa kaniya ang tinig sa ikalawa, Ang nilinis ng Dios, ay huwag mong ipalagay na marumi.
    Act 10:16 At ito'y nangyaring makaitlo: at pagdaka'y binatak sa langit ang sisidlan.


    YUNG BABOY E DATING BAWAL SUBALIT LATER ON ITO AY PINAYAGAN NA NG DIOS DAHIL NALINIS NA NG DIOS. KASI SA UMPISA NAMAN TALAGA HINDI SILA MADUMI. ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY, KASAMA NA ANG MGA HAYUP, AY GINAWA NG DIOS NA MABUTI:

    Gen 1:31 "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good." [King James Versiion]

    ORIGINALLY ANG MGA NILIKHA NG DIOS AY HINDI LANG GOOD KUNDI VERY GOOD PA. BAGAMAT NAGKASALA ANG TAO SUBALIT LATER ON MATAPOS ANG PAGLILIGTAS NI CRISTO TINANGGAL NA NG DIOS ANG PAGBABAWAL NG PAGKAIN NG ANUMANG HAYOP. BASTA MALINIS AT NABIBILI SA PAMILIHAN O MEAT MARKET E PUEDENG KAININ.

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  7. [,prophecy pa daw,,hindi pa nagaganap,,,magaganap pa sabi sa kaibigan kong SDA,,]

    KE NAGANAP YAN O HINDI E HINDI TAYO ANG TINATAMAAN NIYA. HE HE HE...

    PERO ITO ANG MATINDING PROPESIYA NA SAPUL ANG MGA SDA:

    Isaias 3:12 Tungkol sa aking bayan, mga bata ang mga mamimighati sa kanila, at mga babae ang mangagpupuno sa kanila. Oh bayan ko, silang nagsisipatnubay sa iyo, mangagliligaw sa iyo, at sisira ng daan ng iyong mga landas.

    AYAN, ANG DIOS MISMO ANG NAGBABALA NA MASAMA ANG BABAE ANG MANGAGPUPUNO. E ANG SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST E SI ELLEN GOULD WHITE ANG FOUNDER, TEACHER AND PREACHER. SIYA ANG PUNO NILA. NAKU, AKMANG-AKMA SA KANILA ANG PROPESIYA NA IYAN. HA HA HA... KAYA SILA NALIGAW AT SUMIRA NG KANILANG LANDAS PATUNGO SA DIOS. MASAMA NA BABAE ANG LIDER NG IGLESIA NG DIOS. KAYA NGA ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH AY MERONG ALL-MALE PRIESTS AND BISHOPS. DAHIL ANG MGA PARI SA TEMPLO NG DIOS NOONG LUMANG TIPAN AY PAWANG MGA LALAKI AT ANG 12 APOSTLES PATI MGA DISCIPLES AY MGA LALAKI RIN. HINDI BABAE.

    KUNG GUSTO NILA NG MAS LATEST NA HULA ITO:

    Rev 13:17-18 No one could buy or sell without this mark, that is, the beast's name or the number that stands for the name. This calls for wisdom. Whoever is intelligent can figure out the meaning of the number of the beast, because the number stands for the name of someone. Its number is 666.

    ANG NAME NI ELLEN GOULD WHITE KAPAG BINILANG AYON SA ROMAN NUMERALS ANG KATUMBAS AY 666. ITO ANG BILANG:

    •The Founder of SDA

    ELLEN GOULD WHITE
    E
    L = 50
    L = 50
    E
    N

    G
    O
    V = 5
    L = 50
    D = 500

    W [V + V] = 10
    H
    I = 1
    T
    E
    ______________
    TOTAL 666

    AYAN, AKMANG AKMA. LALO NA YUNG HARLOT NA NAKASAKAY DUON SA HALIMAW AYON SA BOOK OF REVELATION AY BABAE. SI ELLEN GOULD WHITE IYON.

    [sana po father mabigyan mo po ng sagot para masagot ko rin po ang mga bintang sa mga kapitbahay at kaibigan kong SDA(seventh day adventists)]

    NAWA AY MAKATULONG ITO SA IYO.

    [Maraming salamat po!!!]

    WELCOME AND GOD BLESS YOU.

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