Thursday, June 2, 2011

RESPONDING TO FR. JOHN CARROLL, S.J. OF ATENEO ON CBCP OPPOSITION TO RH BILL



La Naval de Manila

Fr. John Carrol of the Ateneo wrote: “With all due respect for the position of the Philippine bishops, I do not see that total opposition to the bill necessary, once one gets past the polemics. First of all, the bill does not legalize contraceptives; they are already legal and may be purchased in any drugstore. What the bill proposes to do – rightly or wrongly – is to subsidize the cost of contraception as well as natural family planning to the poor.”

Fr. Carrol laments that the Church has backed itself into a no-win situation. “If the bill passes over the total opposition of the hierarchy, there will be gloating in some quarters and a sense of “Who’s afraid of the big bad Church?” If it is defeated by the opposition of the Church, I fear a powerful backlash at the Church’s “interference in politics” and “reliance on political power rather than moral suasion”—the beginnings of an anti-clericalism such as overwhelmed formerly Catholic bastions as Spain and Ireland.”
FR. ABE:
Fr. Carroll simply shows ignorance of the CBCP position against the RH Bill. Indeed the use of Contraceptives is already legal but we oppose the use of public funds for the purchase and distribution of those contraceptives as pushed in the Bill. Let the Condomists and Sy-PILL-ists buy their own condoms and pills using their own money not the government funds coming mostly from Catholic taxes and in blatant insult against our faith since the use of Contraceptives is contrary to our Catholic Faith and Morals. This is not simply polemics but a defense of the Faith which we inherited from the Apostles. I PRAISE THE LORD THAT FR. CARROLL IS NOT ONE OF OUR BISHOPS AND THAT HE IS NOT OUR POPE, otherwise our faith would be spilled to the ground lke the post nocturnal condoms.



"Fr. Carrol laments that the Church has backed itself into a no-win situation". Ha ha ha... That is a very cheap understanding of the Church position. The Church fought against sin and immoralities regardless of the situation. Win or loose the Church must stand against Contraceptives. John the Baptist fought in a no-win situation against Herod and so did Jesus before Caiaphas, Herod and Pilate. Peter and Paul fought in a no-win situation against Emperor Nero as well as the Roman Martyrs. The Pope did the same against Henry VIII when he wanted to Divorce Catherine of Aragon with a threat of separating the Church of England. Cardinal Sin fought in a no-win situation during the EDSA 1 & EDSA 2. Blessed Pope John Paul the Great fought in the same situation during the Cairo Conference against Bill Clinton's effort to impose abortion and contraception in that U.N. Summit. The Church fights with the sword of faith and with strength of the Spirit regardless of the political backlash and the public opinion. THOSE WHO ARE AFRAID TO FIGHT IN NO-WIN SITUATIONS ARE COWARDS.



“If the bill passes over the total opposition of the hierarchy, there will be gloating in some quarters and a sense of “Who’s afraid of the big bad Church?” If it is defeated by the opposition of the Church, I fear a powerful backlash at the Church’s “interference in politics” and “reliance on political power rather than moral suasion”—the beginnings of an anti-clericalism such as overwhelmed formerly Catholic bastions as Spain and Ireland.” I FIND THIS REASONING HILARIOUS AND PATHETIC. If ever we decide not to oppose the RH Bill will these Condomists and SyPILLists stop opposing the Catholic Church? NO. They will continue their Anti-Clericalism. So, it is better to fight them tooth and nail rather than allow them to use the public funds to the detriment of our Catholic Faith. We are not here to please and to kowtow to the whims and caprices of the atheists, agnostics and anti-Catholics. The Church must teach, proclaim, protect and defend the Gospel of Life in season or out of season, regardless of the opposition. FR. CARROLL SOUNDS LIKE A POLITICIAN RATHER THAN A SHEPHERD OF SOULS.

23 comments:

  1. Praise the Almighty God for the wisdom and right conviction of Fr. Abe! Many souls will enter the heaven because of his faithfullness to Christ's teaching and the Church. May God continue to bless you more Fr. Abe!

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  2. TO GOD BE THE GLORY. VIVA LA SANTA IGLESIA CATOLICA! VIVA EL PAPA!

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  3. fr. abe divorse bill naman ang ang pinag kakaabalahan ng mga mambabatas ngayon. anti-family ba itong mga mambabatas natin. no to divorse legalization.

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  4. ay may mga pari rin palang pabor sa rh bill fr.? hindi lamang po yan sila naliwanagan fr. naway ang espirito ng diyos ay bibigyan sila ng kaliwanagan..

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  5. Father, di ko po maintindihan kung bakit ganyan ang stand ng karamihan sa jesuit sa usapin ng RH bill. Kaya cguro ganun na lang kalakas ang loob ng mga Ateneo professor nang magpahayag sila ng suporta sa nasabing bill dati. Dapat cguro pagsabihan yang mga yan ng ating mga obispo, kasi nakakagulo po cla sa tunay na posisyon ng Santa Iglesia. Najujustify pa tuloy pati ung mga teachers/professors ng ateneo na gumagamit ng contraceptives dahil sa mga ipinalalabas nila na statememnts...

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  6. Good Rebuttal Fr. Abe! I share your conviction with this one

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  7. IT IS TIME TO SHOW TO TO THE THEOLOGICAL REBELS THAT WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THEIR JUNKS.

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  8. [Father, di ko po maintindihan kung bakit ganyan ang stand ng karamihan sa jesuit sa usapin ng RH bill. Kaya cguro ganun na lang kalakas ang loob ng mga Ateneo professor nang magpahayag sila ng suporta sa nasabing bill dati. Dapat cguro pagsabihan yang mga yan ng ating mga obispo, kasi nakakagulo po cla sa tunay na posisyon ng Santa Iglesia. Najujustify pa tuloy pati ung mga teachers/professors ng ateneo na gumagamit ng contraceptives dahil sa mga ipinalalabas nila na statememnts...]

    ANG SOCIETY OF JESUS AY ITINATAG NI ST. IGNATIUS OF LOYOLA UPANG IPAGTANGGOL ANG SANTA IGLESIA LABAN SA HERESIES OF PROTESTANTS. UNFORTUNATELY PARANG YUNG IBA SA KANILA AY TILA NA ENGGANYO NG HERESIA.

    KUNG TITIGNAN MO ANG SINULAT NILA VERY SUBTLE. KUNWARI HINDI AGAINST SA TEACHING NG CHURCH, KUNWARI CONCERN ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE CHURCH BUT IN REALITY IT IS AN ACT OF DEFIANCE. AS IF DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE BATTLE YOU SUDDENLY REALIZE THAT YOUR FELLOW SOLDIERS IN YOUR OWN CAMP IS PUNCHING YOU ON THE FACE WHILE YOUR ENEMIES ARE SENDING YOU FLYING BULLETS.

    LET US PRAY THAT THEY WILL BE TRUE TO THEIR MISSION AND DEFEND THE GOSPEL OF LIFE.

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  9. [ay may mga pari rin palang pabor sa rh bill fr.? hindi lamang po yan sila naliwanagan fr. naway ang espirito ng diyos ay bibigyan sila ng kaliwanagan..]

    KASO HINDI TAHASANG SINASABI NA PRO-RH BILL SIYA. HE SIMPLY CRITICIZES THE BISHOPS. VERY CLEVER.

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  10. [fr. abe divorse bill naman ang ang pinag kakaabalahan ng mga mambabatas ngayon. anti-family ba itong mga mambabatas natin. no to divorse legalization.]

    TALAGANG BAKBAKAN NA ANG GUSTO NILA. FIGHT FOR LIFE, FIGHT FOR THE SACREDNESS OF MARRIAGE.

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  11. ang pag aasawa ay hindi tulad ng kaning mainit na kung mapaso ay pwedeng iluwa.

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  12. Kahit dito sa Amerika, the Jesuits are known for deviant theology.Sadly may mga paring pinoy (definitely not you, Father Abe) na gumagaya sa kanila.

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  13. MY LOYALTY AND ALLEGIANCE IS ON JESUS, MY LORD AND KING, THROUGH HIS VICAR ON EARTH - THE BISHOP OF ROME. VIVA EL PAPA.

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  14. Dear Father,
    Ano naman ang aksyon ng simbahan tungkol sa mga pari ng pabor sa RH Bill?Diba dapat i excomunicate sila?because they are opposed to the teaching authority to the chuch.

    Good day father...
    Bro Donato

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  15. MY LOYALTY AND ALLEGIANCE IS ON JESUS, MY LORD AND KING, THROUGH HIS VICAR ON EARTH - THE BISHOP OF ROME. VIVA EL PAPA. ---Fr.Abe


    Yan ang gusto ko at talaga namang dapat marinig sa ating mga kaparian! hindi base ang opinyon sa katalinuhan ng mundo, kungdi sa karunungan ng Diyos! Kaya nman patuloy akong naniniwala sa Santa Iglesia at sa mga hinirang na tagapagturo nito lalo n kay Padre Abe. At kahit pa ilan sa mga matatalinong Heswitang iyan ang tumutuligsa sa ating mga mahal na obispo, pasalamat pa din ako at binigyan tayo ng isang Padre Abe na may lakas ng loob manindigan sa katotohanan. Mababait ang mga pari, pero hindi lahat ay may angking tapang at pagmamalasakit sa Banal na simbahan... padre, salamat at nililinaw mo ang lahat ng ito, kasi akala ko noon, pagpinanigan ng paring heswita... eh yun na ang tama, hindi pala. Sabi pa ni Fr.Bernas hindi daw infallible ang Humanae Vitae. Eh ang tanong ko, sino ang infallible, SIYA? Mas madunong pa siya sa Papa? Sana hintayin nyang siya ang maging santo papa bago siya magsasalita ng ganyan. TAMPALASAN!

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  16. BRO. DONATO, NAPAKA BAIT NG SANTA IGLESIA. HINDI SIYA BASTA BASTA NAGPAPATAW NG EXCOMMUNICATION.

    LET US PRAY SA MGA TRAIDOR NA ALAGAD NG SIMBAHAN NA MAGING TAPAT SA TURO NG SANTA IGLESIA NA PINATUTUPAD NG SANTO PAPA.

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  17. SALAMAT SA SUPORTA DEAR ANONYMOUS. THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR COWARDICE; THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE KNIGHTS OF THE CHURCH TO UNSHEATHE THEIR SWORDS AND FIGHT FOR THE FAITH.

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  18. ok father maraming salamat po

    bro donato...

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  19. Fr. Abe, thank you for responding to Fr. Carroll's article. I recall, I emailed to you the link to his Inquirer article and i requested you to refute his claims. Thank you once again and God bless!

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  20. I remember James... it took me some time to do so.

    During this difficult and hazardous moment in our life as Catholics let us cling to THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER as the bastion of orthodoxy. If we are with him then the Lord's promise shall be efficacious upon us: THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.

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  21. Fr. Abe nalulungkot lang po ako sa mga Liberal thingking ng ilang mga Jesuits. Parang sinisira nila ang Stand ng Church since the are part of the church parang watak watak tayo :(

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  22. NAKAKALUNGKOT NGA NA PINILI NG MGA JESUITS MAGING TRAIDOR SA SANTA IGLESIA.

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