Pope Benedict XVI meets the Palestinians
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Father may nabasa po ako sa mga Anti Catholic blog. Ayon po sa kanila,
The little horn of Daniel 7:8, ang tinutukoy daw po dyan ay ang Papacy
kasi sabi daw po ng Daniel 7:25,"He will speak words against the Most
High and opress the saints. He will try to change their religious laws
and festivals and the saints will be under his dominion for 3 1/2
years." eh pinalitan daw po ng Pope ang Sabbath ng Panginoon from
Saturday (Exodus 20:8-11) (Hebrews 4:9-11) to Sunday which is the pagan
day of the sun,at ang tawag daw po natin sa Pope ay Holy Father eh sabi
daw po nila ang tinawag lang po ni Jesus na Holy Father ay ang Ama (John
17:11). Sabi pa po nila na the Beast of the Sea (Revelation 13:1) ay
ang Secretary General ng UNO and killing him would be impossible. Sabi
pa raw po nila the Second Beast of the earth (Revelation 13:11) ay ang
Vatican "who has horns like a lamb but speaks like a dragon." Yung Pope
daw ayon sa kanila will perform miracles and wonders para mang akit sa
tao na sambahin yung Secretary General ng UNO, who is the Antichrist.
The Pope daw, ayon sa kanila ay "The False Prophet". (Revelation 19:20)
at ipopromote daw po niya yung Mark of the Beast system and those who
refused this will be killed and may not buy or sell (Revelation
13:15-17). Hindi po ako naniniwala sa kanila since it was the Catholic
Church put an end to paganism in Rome, pero pakisagot po yung mga
paratang po nila laban sa Catholic Church. Salamat po at nawa'y
pagpalain po kayo ng Diyos at ni Jesus!!!
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[Father may nabasa po ako sa mga Anti Catholic blog. Ayon po sa kanila,
The little horn of Daniel 7:8, ang tinutukoy daw po dyan ay ang Papacy
kasi sabi daw po ng Daniel 7:25,"He will speak words against the Most
High and opress the saints. He will try to change their religious laws
and festivals and the saints will be under his dominion for 3 1/2
years."]
HA HA HA... JUAN CARLO, JUST LOOK AT THE VERSE:
Daniel 7:25,"He will speak words against the Most High and opress the saints."
TANONG: SINO ANG NAG-OPPRESS SA MGA SAINTS CATHOLICS BA O ANG MGA ANTI-CATHOLICS?
SILANG MGA ANTI-CATHOLICS. THEY HATE THE SAINTS OF GOD. THEY ARE ATTACKING US FOR HAVING SAINTS. HE HE HE, THE POPE IS THE NUMBER ONE SUPPORTER AND LOVER OF SAINTS BECAUSE HE PROCLAIMS THE SAINTS. HE HE HE... BESIDES THE POPE NEVER UTTERED A WORD AGAINST THE MOST HIGH.
[eh pinalitan daw po ng Pope ang Sabbath ng Panginoon from Saturday (Exodus 20:8-11) (Hebrews 4:9-11) to Sunday which is the pagan day of the sun,]
PALPAK TALAGA IYANG MGA SABADISTA NA IYAN NA MGA TUTA NG DEMONIA AT IMPAKTANG SI ELLEN GOULD WHITE, ANG BABAENG 666 ANG PANGALAN.
TIGNAN ULI NATIN ANG SABI SA PROPESIYA NI DANIEL:
Daniel 7:25,"He will speak words against the Most High and opress the saints. He will try to change their religious laws and festivals and the saints will be under his dominion for 3 1/2 years."
ANG SABI THEY WILL TRY TO CHANGE THEIR RELIGIOUS LAWS. HE HE HE...
TANONG: SILA BA MAY RELIGIOUS LAWS NA IMPLENTED NA NUON PA?
WALA. BAGO LANG SILA.
ANG CATHOLIC CHURCH AY MERONG CODE OF CANON LAW OR ECCLESIASTICAL-RELIGISOU LAWS. YAN AY BATAS NG SANTA IGLESIA PARA SA BUONG SIMBAHAN SA BUONG DAIGDIG. HE HE HE... NASAAN ANG ECCLESIASTICAL-RELIGIOUS LAW NILA? NASA LAWAY NI ELLEN GOULD WHITE.
TANONG: SINO ANG NAGBAGO NG FESTIVALS?
SILA HINDI TAYO. DAHIL TAYO LANG NAMAN ANG MAY FESTIVALS, TAYO LANG ANG MAY FEAST OR FIESTA SILA WALA. HA HA HA... TINANGGAL NILA ANG MGA CHRISTIAN FESTIVALS.
ANG MAY GAWA NG CALENDAR NG CHRISTIAN WORLD TODAY AY ANG SANTO PAPA AT IYON AY PINUNO NG POPE NG MARAMING FESTIVALS OF THE LORD AND OF THE SAINTS. HA HA HA... KAYA TALBOG SA KANILA ANG PROPESIYA.
SABI PA E AAWAYIN O SASAKUPIN NG ANTI-CRISTO ANG MGA SANTO. ANG TINUTUKOY NYAN AY ANG MGA DEMONIONG HARI, EMPERADOR NA NAGPAPATAY SA MGA CATHOLIC MARTYR-SAINTS GAYA NI EMPEROR NERO, CALIGULA, HENRY VIII AT IBA PA.
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TUNGKOL NAMAN SA PAGSAMBA SA DIOS SA SUNDAY E TALAGA NAMANG ANG MGA
CRISTIANO AY NATITIPON TUWNG SUNDAY OR THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK DAHIL
IYON ANG RESURRECTION DAY OF THE LORD JESUS SAMANTALANG ANG SATURDAY AY
ANG ARAW NG PAMAMAHINGA NG MGA PHARISEO AT NG MGA ISRAELITA NA UNDER PA
MOSAIC LAW. TAYONG MGA CHRISTIANS AY HINDI NA UNDER NG MOSAIC LAW BUT
THE LAW OF JESUS. BESIDES, ANG DAY OF REST AY HINDI SATURDAY ONLY PATI
RIN ANG FIRST DAY EVEN DURING THE OLD TESTAMENT TIMES:
Levitico 23:7 "Sa UNANG ARAW ay magkakaroon ng banal na pagpupulong: anomang gawang paglilingkod ay huwag ninyong gagawin."
ANG PAGTIGIL SA TRABAHO AY HINDI LANG SATURDAY KUNDI PATI SUNDAY AY MAAARI RING GAWING ARAW NG PAMAMAHINGA. GAYA NG SABI SA TAAS ANG UNANG ARAW ANG DAY PARA SA "BANAL NA PAGPUPULONG" O "HOLY CONVOCATION" O "SACRED ASSEMBLY". KAYA SA ARAW NA IYAN TAYO NAGKAKATIPON BILANG MGA CATOLICO. Hindi lang first day of the Week, Sabbath din ang First Day of the Month:
Levitico 23:24 Salitain mo sa mga anak ni Israel, na iyong sabihin, Sa ikapitong buwan, sa UNANG ARAW NG BUWAN, ay magkakaroon kayo ng takdang kapahingahan, na pinakaalaalang may tunog ng mga pakakak banal na pagpupulong nga.
KAYA YUNG CLAIM NG SDA NA SATURDAY LANG ANG SABBATH E PALPAK KASI IBA IBANG ARAW PUMAPATAK ANG FIRST DAY NG KADA BUWAN. HE, HE, HE...
ITO PA ANG IBANG TALAGA NA NAGPAPAHAYAG NA PWEDENG SABBATH ANG FIRST DAY:
Levitico 23:35 "Sa UNANG ARAW ay magkakaroon ng banal na pagpupulong; kayo'y huwag gagawa ng anomang gawang paglilingkod."
KITAM. WALANG NAKASULAT SA BIBLIA NA SATURDAY LANG ANG SABBATH. IMBENTO LANG IYAN NI ELLEN GOULD WHITE.
ACTUALLY ANG SUNDAY AY VERY SPECIAL SABBATH KASI ITO ANG IKA FIRST DAY AT IKA EIGTH DAY WHICH IS SACRED TO GOD:
Levitico 23:39 "Gayon ma'y sa ikalabing limang araw ng ikapitong buwan, pagka inyong natipon ang bunga ng lupain, ay magdidiwang kayo sa Panginoon ng kapistahang pitong araw: ang UNANG ARAW ay magiging takdang kapahingahan, at ang IKAWALONG ARAW ay magiging takdang kapahingahan."
UNANG ARAW NA TAKDANG KAPAHINGAHAN. VERY CLEAR YAN SA BIBLE.
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ITO NAMAN ANG SABI NG NEW TESTAMENT:
ANG SABBATH SA BAGONG TIPAN:
Ang ating Panginoong Jesucristo ay namamahinga ng Sabbat at nagpupunta sa Sinagoga dahil Judio siya. Gayon din ang mga Apostles... Judio sila.
Subalit ang Panginoong Jesus ay kilala sa hindi pagsunod sa Sabbath dahil naglalakad sila ng Sabbath, nagpapagaling, nangangaral at iba pa. Ito ang kinagalit ng mga Pariseo kay Jesus. Subalit ipinaglaban ito ng Panginoon:
Juan 5:16-17 "At dahil dito'y pinagusig ng mga Judio si Jesus, sapagka't ginagawa niya ang mga bagay na ito sa araw ng sabbath. Datapuwa't sinagot sila ni Jesus, Hanggang ngayo'y gumagawa ang aking Ama, at ako'y gumagawa."
IBIG SABIHIN BAGAMAT ANG CREATION AY NATAPOS NA NG DIOS SUBALIT ANG ACTIVITY OF GOD AND OF THE LORD IN SAVING, HEALING, PURIFYING, SANCTIFYING THE WORLD ARE CONTINUOUS. KAYA NGA ANG MGA ESPECIAL NA GAWAIN TULAD NG SA MGA DOCTOR, PARI, MGA NAGTITINDA NG PAGKAIN AY DAPAT MAGPATULOY KAHIT ARAW NG PAMAMAHINGA.
AT ANG PINILI NIYANG ARAW NG TAGUMPAY LABAN SA KASALANAN AT SA KASAMAN - ANG DAY OF RESURRECTION AY SUNDAY - HINDI SATURDAY:
Marco 16:1 At nang makaraan ang sabbath, si Maria Magdalena, at si Mariang ina ni Santiago, at si Salome, ay nagsibili ng mga pabango, upang sila'y magsiparoon at siya'y pahiran. At pagkaumagang-umaga nang unang araw ng sanglinggo, ay nagsiparoon sila sa libingan nang sikat na ang araw.
Lucas 24:1-2 Datapuwa't nang unang araw ng sanglinggo pagkaumagang-umaga, ay nagsiparoon sila sa libingan, na may dalang mga pabango na kanilang inihanda. At nasumpungan nilang naigulong na ang bato mula sa libingan.
KAYA NAMAN ANG MGA CRISTIANO AY NAGTITIPON PARA MAGHATI HATI NG TINAPAY GAYA NG INIUTOS NI JESUS SA LAST SUPPER TUWING SUNDAY AT HINDI SATURDAY:
Act 20:7 At nang UNANG ARAW ng sanglinggo, nang kami'y nangagkakapisan upang pagputolputulin ang tinapay, si Pablo ay nangaral sa kanila, na nagaakalang umalis sa kinabukasan; at tumagal ang kaniyang pananalita hanggang sa hatinggabi.
ITO RIN ANG ARAW NG PAGTITIPON NG MGA MANANAMPALATAYA:
1 Corinto 16:2 Tuwing UNANG ARAW ng sanglinggo ang bawa't isa sa inyo ay magbukod na magsimpan, ayon sa kaniyang iginiginhawa, upang huwag nang gumawa ng mga ambagan sa pagpariyan ko.
LAGI NATING TATANDAAN NA SI JESUS ANG "LORD OF THE SABBATH":
Mark 2:28 "So the Son of Man is LORD even of the Sabbath."
DAHIL SUNDAY ANG DAY OF HIS TRIUMPH, THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION ANG SUNDAY ANG DAY OF THE LORD!
TANDAAN MO. SINUSUNOD NATIN ANG PAMAMAHINGA NG SABADO AT SUMASAMBA TAYO SA DIOS TUWING LINGGO DAHIL ITO ANG "DAY OF THE LORD" - ITO ANG DAY OF RESURRECTION - THE TRIUMPH OF JESUS OVER SIN AND DEATH.
ANG ATING PAGSAMBA AY NAG-UUMPISA NG SABADO HANGGANG LINGGO.
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[at ang tawag daw po natin sa Pope ay Holy Father eh sabi daw po nila
ang tinawag lang po ni Jesus na Holy Father ay ang Ama (John 17:11).]
ANG TAWAG NI JESUS KAY GOD THE FATHER AY "ABBA" SAMANTALANG ANG POPE AY HINDI TINATAWAG NA ABBA [Mark 14:36] KUNDI 'PAPA' NA IBIG SABIHIN TAO SIYANG IGINAGALANG BILANG FATHER-FIGURE. MAGKAIBA YON. ABBA ANG TUNAY NA TAWAG SA DIOS NG MGA CRISTIANO [Rom 8:15/ Gal 4:6] HINDI PAPA, HINDI POPE.
ANG AMA AY THE HOLIEST OF ALL FATHERS BECAUSE HE IS GOD. SUBALIT MERONG IBANG MGA FATHERS SA BIBLIA NA LOWER SA GOD THE FATHER GAYA NG ATING GMA BIOLOGICAL FATHERS AT MGA PATRIARCHS NA PAWANG TINAWAG NA AMA SA BIBLE.
SUBALIT, HINULA RIN NG PROPETA ISAIAS NA ANG MAGTATAGLAY NG SUSI NG KAHARIAN NG ISRAEL AY TATAWAGING AMA NG MGA TAO:
Is 22:20 At mangyayari sa araw na yaon, na aking tatawagin ang aking lingkod na si Eliacim na anak ni Hilcias:
Is 22:21 At aking susuutan siya ng iyong balabal, at patitibayin siya ng iyong pamigkis, at aking ipagkakatiwala ang iyong pamamahala sa kaniyang kamay: at siya'y magiging AMA SA MGA NANANAHAN SA JERUSALEM, at sa sangbahayan ni Juda.
Is 22:22 At ang katungkulan sa sangbahayan ni David ay iaatang ko sa kaniyang balikat; at siya'y magbubukas, at walang magsasara; at siya'y magsasara, at walang magbubukas.
ANG MGA TALATANG ITO AY NAGKAROON NG KATUPARAN SA NEW TESTAMENT:
Mt 16:18 At sinasabi ko naman sa iyo, na ikaw ay Pedro, at sa ibabaw ng batong ito ay itatayo ko ang aking iglesia; at ang mga pintuan ng Hades ay hindi magsisipanaig laban sa kaniya.
Mt 16:19 Ibibigay ko sa iyo ang mga susi ng kaharian ng langit: at anomang iyong talian sa lupa ay tatalian sa langit; at anomang iyong kalagan sa lupa ay kakalagan sa langit.
ANG MGA SUSI NG KAHARIAN NG LANGIT AY IPINAGKALOOB KAY SAN PEDRO AT SA KANYANG MGA KAHALILI BILANG LIDER NG SANTA IGLESIA. DAHIL TULAD NG SABI SA IS 22 ANG AUTORIDAD NG KEEPER OF THE KEY IS AN OFFICE, ISANG KATUNGKULAN NA IPINAPASA SA KAHALILI.
DAHIL SI SAN PEDRO AT ANG MGA POPES NA KANYANG KAHALILI AY ANG KEEPER OF THE KEYS TINATAWAG SILANG "AMA" O ANG TAMANG TERM AY "PAPA".
BAKIT HOLY? BAKIT SANTO PAPA?
KASI HE IS THE LEADER OF THE HOLY PEOPLE OF GOD NA WALANG IBA KUNDI ANG CHURCH. ITO MISMO ANG PINATUNAYAN NI SAN PEDRO:
1 Peter 2:5 "Come as living stones, and let yourselves be used in building the spiritual temple, where you will serve as HOLY PRIESTS to offer spiritual and acceptable sacrifices to God through Jesus Christ." [Good News Bible]
THE POPE IS THE LEADER OF THIS HOLY PRIESTS. HE IS A HOLY PRIEST, A SANTO PAPA.
1 Peter 2:9 "But you are the chosen race, the King's priests, THE HOLY NATION, God's own people, chosen to proclaim the wonderful acts of God, who called you out of darkness into his own marvelous light." [GNB]
THE POPE IS THE LEADER OF THAT HOLY NATION. SO, KABILANG SIYA SA BAYANG BANAL NG DIOS KAYA BANAL SIYA.
NGAYON, KUNG AYAW NG MGA SABADISTA NA TAWAGING BANAL ANG MGA PASTOR NILA E DI ANO SILA? MGA MAKASALANAN AT MGA KAMPON NG KASAMAAN... YON ANG KABALIGTARAN NG BANAL E. HE HE HE...
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[Sabi pa po nila na the Beast of the Sea (Revelation 13:1) ay ang Secretary General ng UNO and killing him would be impossible.]
TANUNGIN MO ANG REPRESENTATIVE NG UNO HINGGIL DIYAN, WAG AKO. DAHIL HINDI AKO TAGASUNOD NG SECRETARY GENERAL NG UNO.
[Sabi pa raw po nila the Second Beast of the earth (Revelation 13:11) ay ang Vatican "who has horns like a lamb but speaks like a dragon."]
MAPAKA TANGA NAMAN NILA. YUNG UNANG BEAST AY TAO, SECRETARY GENERAL TAPOS IYONG IKALAWA AY ESTADO NA NAPAKA-LIIT. HE HE HE... NAGSASALITA BA NAMAN ANG VATICAN E ESTADO IYON? PARANG ANG STATE OF CALIFORNIA NAGSASALITA BA YON? HA HA HA...
[Yung Pope daw ayon sa kanila will perform miracles and wonders para mang akit sa tao na sambahin yung Secretary General ng UNO, who is the Antichrist.]
KELAN PINASAMBA NG POPE SA MGA TAO ANG SECRETARY GENERAL NG UNO? E MAGKAIBA NGA SILA NG RELIGION. HALOS LAHAT NG MGA UNO SEC. GENERAL AY HINDI CATHOLIC. HE HE HE... MGA UTAK GALAPONG TALAGA ITONG MGA SABADISTA.
[The Pope daw, ayon sa kanila ay "The False Prophet".]
ANG FALSE PROPHET AY ANG DEMONIA NILANG PROPHETA NA SI ELLEN GOULD WHITE NA ANG PANGALAN AY EQUIVALENT NG 666. IYAN ANG BABAENG PATUTUT, ANG WHORE OF BABYLON.
[(Revelation 19:20) at ipopromote daw po niya yung Mark of the Beast system and those who refused this will be killed and may not buy or sell (Revelation 13:15-17).]
TANGA PALA SILA E. KELAN PA KAILANGAN NG MARK MULA SA PAPA BAGO MAKABILI SA PALENGKE? HE HE HE... WALA. ANG TATAK NA GINAGAMIT SA PAMPILI NG MGA BAGAY AY TATAK NG GOBIERNO, MOSTLY DOLLARS. YON GALING YON SA BANSA NA PINAGMULAN NG DEMONIANG SI ELLEN GOULD WHITE NG MGA SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS. HE HE HE...
[Hindi po ako naniniwala sa kanila since it was the Catholic Church put an end to paganism in Rome,]
TAMA.
[pero pakisagot po yung mga paratang po nila laban sa Catholic Church. Salamat po at nawa'y pagpalain po kayo ng Diyos at ni Jesus!!!]
ITO NA IYON. GOD BLESS YOU TOO.

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Good day Father Abe . . napagandang nasagot nyo ang mga katanungan na yan,kasi ganyan din mag akusa ang mga SDA dito sa Palawan,nagtatanong lang sila pero me kasamang paghuhusga . . kahit paulit ulit mong paliwanagan di pa rin makaintindi . . kung di po ako nagkakamali humula rin ang kanilang founder na si ellen white na magugunaw ang mundo noon?pero namatay na lang sya di pa nagunaw ang mundo . . sinusunog na sa impyerno ang kaluluwa sa kasinungalingan . . good work father,ipagpatuloy po ninyo ang pagtatangol sa katolisismo . . sana rin po magkaroon din po kayo ng pagkakataon makapunta ng PPC,Palawan at makapag seminar . . God bless & More power ! ! Patrick CD of PPCity . .
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU VERY MUCH BRO. PATRICK. I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO GIVE APOLOGETIC TALKS IN PUERTO PRINSESA CITY. UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO INVITATION YET AND NO GROUP TO ORGANIZE IT THERE.
ReplyDeleteLeviticus 23:7 "Sa UNANG ARAW ay magkakaroon ng banal na pagpupulong: anomang gawang paglilingkod ay huwag ninyong gagawin."
ReplyDeleteThis is not the first day of the week, rather the first of the seven days of the feast of unleavened bread." It is important to read the verses before and after a verse, or the wole chapter, to have a full and right understanding of that verse.
WHETHERE IT IS SUNDAY OR NOT YOUR DOCTRINE OF SATURDAY ONLY IS DESTROYED BY THAT VERSE BECAUSE THE FIRST DAY OF THE FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD IS NOT FALLING ON SATURDAY EVERY YEAR. IT PROVES OUR ASSERTION THAT SABBATH IS NOT EXCLUSIVE OF SATURDAY. MUCH MORE, IT IS ALSO A FACT THAT THE RESURRECTION DAY IS SUNDAY THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK. THE TRIUMPH OVER DEATH OF THE LORD OF SABBATH IS SUNDAY NOT SATURDAY.
ReplyDeleteUNDERSTAND CLEARLY THE SIGNIFICATION OF THE VERSE AND DO NO CLOSE YOUR MIND TO THE FACT THAT SABBATH IS NOT EXCLUSIVE OF SATURDAY.
"Only one kind of Sabbath was given to Adam, and one only remains for us. See Hosea 2:11. `I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.' All the Jewish sabbaths did cease when Christ nailed them to his cross. Col.2:14-17. These were properly called Jewish sabbaths. Hosea says, `her sabbaths.' But the Sabbath of which we are speaking, God calls `my Sabbath.' Here is a clear distinction between the creation Sabbath and the ceremonial. The one is perpetual; the others were merely shadows of good things to come." - Life and Views, pp. 161, 162.
ReplyDeleteYOUR SABBATH IS THE SABBATH OF THE PHARISEES, NOT THE SABBATH OF CHRISTIANS. WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT THE CHRISTIANS WERE GIVEN THE COMMAND TO FULFILL THE SATURDAY SABBATH OF THE JEWS? THE CHRISTIANS WERE GATHERING TOGETHER ON SUNDAY.
ReplyDeleteFr. Abe, you did not get my point. You said, “GAYA NG SABI SA TAAS (Leviticus 23:7) ANG UNANG ARAW ANG DAY PARA SA "BANAL NA PAGPUPULONG" O "HOLY CONVOCATION" O "SACRED ASSEMBLY". KAYA SA ARAW NA IYAN TAYO NAGKAKATIPON BILANG MGA CATOLICO.”I want to point out that the Sabbath being pertained to in that verse is not the weekly Sabbath. Rather it is one of those ceremonial sabbaths that were abolished when Jesus died on the cross. We need to know that there are many sabbaths in the Bible and that only one Sabbath remains and that is the seventh-day weekly Sabbath, the Sabbath of the Lord.
ReplyDeleteThis is from a brother: “The seventh-day Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world. It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation. Of that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part, Christ declares, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law." So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power.”
The Sabbath was embodied in the law given from Sinai; but it was not then first made known as a day of rest. The people of Israel had a knowledge of it before they came to Sinai.This is why the 4th commandment says “REMEMBER to keep the Sabbath holy.”
I cannot find any verse in the Bible saying that the seventh-day Sabbath was abolished by Jesus and that Sunday or the first day of the week has replaced it. “As was his custom, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day. “ (Luke 4:16) "Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets” (Matthew 5:17). Reading all throughout the story of Jesus’ life here on earth when He was human makes it clear that He and His disciples all kept the seventh-day Sabbath holy. My mind is so open to the truth. Fr. Abe I am not challenging you to give me evidences from the Bible of your claim that the seventh-day Sabbath was abolished and that Sunday is now the Lord’s day. I just want to know the truth (if ever there is a greater truth than what I am clinging to). I don’t want any debate but just a discussion to come up with the truth.
The Sabbath of the Jews or the Israelites you are pertaining to are the ceremonial sabbaths. That which is to be kept holy up to now and in the world to come is the Sabbath of the Lord, the one in the 4th commandment, the Sabbath in the creation story.
ReplyDeleteFr. Abe, you did not get my point. You said, “GAYA NG SABI SA TAAS (Leviticus 23:7) ANG UNANG ARAW ANG DAY PARA SA "BANAL NA PAGPUPULONG" O "HOLY CONVOCATION" O "SACRED ASSEMBLY". KAYA SA ARAW NA IYAN TAYO NAGKAKATIPON BILANG MGA CATOLICO.”I want to point out that the Sabbath being pertained to in that verse is not the weekly Sabbath.]
ReplyDeleteTHAT'S IT. IT PROVES THAT YOUR SATURDAY SABBATH IS NOT THE ONLY SABBATH. THERE IS A SABBATH GIVEN BY GOD WHICH IS NOT THE SEVENTH DAY BUT ON THE FIRST DAY. SO, THE SDA DOCTRINE OF SATURDAY ONLY IS DESTROYED HERE.
[Rather it is one of those ceremonial sabbaths that were abolished when Jesus died on the cross.]
O NO, NO, NO... THE FEAST OF THE UNLEAVENED BREAD WAS NOT ABOLISHED. WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT THE FEAST OF THE UNLEAVENED BREAD WAS ABOLISHED?
REMEMBER THAT WHEN JESUS TOOK THE UNLEAVENED BREAD AND THE CHALICE WITH THE GRAPE WINE AND ORDERED THE APOSTLES DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME WAS MEANT TO CONTINUE THE FEAST OF THE UNLEAVENEED BREAD. AND THE APOSTLES CONTINUED THAT BREAKING OF THE BREAD, NOT ONLY ONCE A YEAR BUT ON FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK WHICH IS SUNDAY:
Act 2:42 "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."
THE BREAKING OF THE BREAD BECAME PART OF THE LIFE OF THE CHRISTIANS AS JESUS COMMANDED THEM TO DO THIS IN REMEBRANCE OF ME. THEY DIDN'T WAIT FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO REPEAT THE ACTIONS OF THE LORD IN LAST SUPPER. AND THEY WERE DOING IT ON SUNDAY:
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
THERE, THE DISCIPLES CAME TOGETHER TO BREAK BREAD WHEN? THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK. SO THEIR HOLY CONVOCATION BY WHICH THEY PARTAKE OF THE UNLEAVENED BREAD AS JESUS DID IS NOT ON SATURDAY BUT SUNDAY.
THE DISCIPLES CAME TO GATHER TOGETHER NOT ON SATURDAY BUT ON SUNDAY. WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT THE DISCIPLES GATHERED TOGETHER ON SATURDAY AND NOT ON SUNDAY?
[We need to know that there are many sabbaths in the Bible and that only one Sabbath remains and that is the seventh-day weekly Sabbath, the Sabbath of the Lord.]
ReplyDeleteWHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT THE SATURDAY SABBATH IS THE ONLY SABBATH THAT REMAINS? WHERE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE.
[This is from a brother: “The seventh-day Sabbath was not for Israel merely, but for the world. It had been made known to man in Eden, and, like the other precepts of the Decalogue, it is of imperishable obligation. Of that law of which the fourth commandment forms a part, Christ declares, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in nowise pass from the law." So long as the heavens and the earth endure, the Sabbath will continue as a sign of the Creator's power.”]
THAT IS A PHARISAICAL BELIEF. THE DISCIPLES WERE GATHERING ON SUNDAY TO BREAK BREAD NOT ON SATURDAY WHICH IS THE SABBATH OF THE PHARISEES.
[The Sabbath was embodied in the law given from Sinai; but it was not then first made known as a day of rest. The people of Israel had a knowledge of it before they came to Sinai.This is why the 4th commandment says “REMEMBER to keep the Sabbath holy.”]
IT IS NOWHERE STATED THERE THAT IT WAS THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH. WHAT IS STATED IS THAT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH. DEFINITELY WE KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH, BUT ON THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION NOT ON THE DAY OF THE PHARISEES.
[I cannot find any verse in the Bible saying that the seventh-day Sabbath was abolished by Jesus and that Sunday or the first day of the week has replaced it.]
ReplyDeleteIT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE VERY POOR UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. BECAUSE THE NEW TESTAMENT DOES NOT SPEAK OF A SINGLE SABBATH BUT OF TWO SABBATH. AND THAT OTHER SABBATH IS THE DAY OF THE RESURRECTION:
Mat 28:1 ᾿ĪĻὲ Γὲ ĻαββάĻĻν, ĻĪ·͂ͅ ἐĻιĻĻĻĪŗĪæĻ ́ĻĪ·ͅ εἰĻ Ī¼Ī¹́αν ĻαββάĻĻν, ἦλθε ĪαĻὶα Ī·̔ ĪαγΓαληνὴ καὶ Ī·̔ į¼Ī»Ī»Ī· ĪαĻία θεĻĻĪ·͂Ļαι ĻĪæ̀ν ĻάĻον. [Opse de sabbaton te epiphoskouse eis mian sabbaton elthen Maria e Magdalene kai e alle Maria theo resai ton taphon.]
SEE, THERE ARE TWO SABBATON THERE. THE OLD SABBATON WHICH IS THE SEVENTH DAY AND THE NEW SABBATON WHICH IS THE FIRST DAY - THE DAY OF RESURRECTION. THEY ARE BOTH SABBATON.
THAT IS WHY ST. PAUL DEVELOPED THE THEOLOGY OF NEW CREATION, WHEREIN THE DISCIPLES ARE PART OF NEW CREATION... THEY ARE NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST [Gal 6:15, 2 Cor 5:17]. THAT NEW CREATION IS THE DAY OF RESURRECTION THE NEW SABBATH. AGAIN, SUNDAY IS REFERRED AS THE FIRST SABBATON. FOR ST. PAUL THE OLD CREATION IS NO MORE WHAT COUNTS IS THE NEW CREATION:
Gal 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation [NIV]
YOU BELONG TO THE OLD CREATION WHILE THE TRUE CHRISTIANS BELONG TO THE NEW CREATION. THE FIRST SABBATON IS THE RESURRECTION OF THE LORD.
[“As was his custom, he went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day. “ (Luke 4:16)]
HA HA HA... THIS IS CHEAP SHOT BECAUSE JESUS IS A JEW AND THE RESURRECTION SABBATH DIDN'T OCCUR YET THAT TIME.
["Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets” (Matthew 5:17).]
YEAH, JESUS DIDN'T DESTROY THE SABBATH HE SIMPLY MADE IT NEW. HE CHOSE THE FIRST SABBATH FOR HIS GLORIOUS DAY... HIS DAY OF TRIUMPH OVER SIN AND DEATH. THAT FIRST SABBATH IS SUNDAY.
[Reading all throughout the story of Jesus’ life here on earth when He was human makes it clear that He and His disciples all kept the seventh-day Sabbath holy.]
O NO. THE LORD JESUS OBEYED THE SABBATH PRIOR TO HIS RESURRECTION BECAUSE HE WAS A JEW BUT WHEN HE RESURRECTED HE WAS NO LONGER GOING INSIDE THE TEMPLE ON THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH INSTEAD HE WAS APPEARING TO THE DISCIPLES ON SUNDAYS.
[My mind is so open to the truth. Fr. Abe I am not challenging you to give me evidences from the Bible of your claim that the seventh-day Sabbath was abolished and that Sunday is now the Lord’s day. I just want to know the truth (if ever there is a greater truth than what I am clinging to). I don’t want any debate but just a discussion to come up with the truth.]
THAT IS THE TRUTH. THERE ARE TWO SABBATH IN THE ORIGINAL GREEK WORD OF THE BIBLE. THE FIRST DAY WHICH IS THE DAY OF RESURRECTION, SUNDAY, WAS ALSO CALLED SABBATH BY THE APOSTLES. AND THE DISCIPLES WERE GATHERING TOGETHER ON SUNDAY NOT ON SATURDAY.
SHOW ME A VERSE THAT SHOW THAT THE CHRISTIANS GATHERED TOGETHER ON SATURDAY AFTER THE RESURRECTION. CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE. HE HE HE... HOPE YOU WILL ALSO OPEN YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEART AND YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH. GET AWAY FROM THE SABBATH OF THE PHARISEES.
[The Sabbath of the Jews or the Israelites you are pertaining to are the ceremonial sabbaths.]
ReplyDeleteO NO, THAT IS THE FIRST DAY SABBATH OF THE FEAST OF THE UNLEAVENED BREAD WHICH IS THE SAME FEAST COMMANDED BY CHRIST TO BE DONE BY THE APOSTLES DURING THE LAST SUPPER. IT WAS A PASSOVER AND FEAST OF THE UNLEAVENED BREAD. THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE CEREMONIAL. HE HE HE... BESIDES IF IT IS SABBATH THEN IT IS SABBATH.
[That which is to be kept holy up to now and in the world to come is the Sabbath of the Lord, the one in the 4th commandment, the Sabbath in the creation story.]
THE 3RD COMMANDMENT IS SPEAKS OF "KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH DAY". THERE IS NO MENTION OF "THE SEVENTH DAY SABBATH ONLY". O NO, NO, NO... YOU ARE LIMITING THE WORD OF GOD TO SUIT THE INVENTED DOCTRINE OF ELLEN GOULD WHITE. THE SABBATH OF THE CHRISTIANS WHO BELONGS TO THE NEW CREATION IN CHRIST IS SUNDAY THE SABBATH AFTER THE SABBATH. THE SUNDAY SABBATH IS THE FIRST SABBATH.
Fr. Abe I am wondering how the fourth commandment became the 3rd? The Sabbath is on the fourth, right? typo error?
ReplyDeleteIt's nice having discussion with you Fr. Abe. I'll be back next week. I'll be out of connection for a while because I have no internet connection in the house...
God bless us all!
In the numbering of the Catholic Church the Sabbath command is on the 3RD. It is not typo error but the ancient Catholic numbering much older than the numbering of Ellen Gould White. We were the ones who put the Chapter and the Verses in the Bible not the SDA and not Ellen Gould White so we have the authority to speak about the right numbering of the Commandments.
ReplyDeleteSee you next week then. God bless us all.