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Like Satan and this Snake, our hidden opponent wants to attack us from his hidden position.
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Hi, Call me GEB. You may already have some info about me. I posted my
comments and replies to one of your (Catholic) blogs. But your fellow
Catholic Defender, ISAHEL ALFONSO, quitted. Are you aware about this?
How about you, ARE YOU NOT A QUITTER LIKE HIM? If so, can you assure me that you will not also delete my valid comments and replies? Even if they are unfavorable and might put you and you beloved church to shame?
Let me know. Thank You!
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IF YOU WANT A FULL SCALE WAR THEN REVEAL YOUR FULL AND TRUE IDENTITY...
THE REAL ONE AND YOUR TRUE RELIGION. THEN WE WILL SQUARE WITH YOU FAIRLY
AND SQUARELY. IF YOU WILL HIDE YOURSELF THE WAY YOU ARE HIDDEN NOW THEN
THERE YOU ARE NOT FAIR. YOU SIMPLY WANT TO MAKE A TARGET OUT OF US
WHILE YOU WANT YOUR OWN TO BE HIDDEN. O NO, NO, NO... FIGHT A FAIR FIGHT
SO THAT YOU SHOW HOW SINCERE YOU ARE IN FIGHTING FIRE WITH FIRE.
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It seems that you really want a fair and square discussion. If that is
true, I'm greatly pleased. Prove then that there is more in your words
than air and it is not simply pompousness or pretentiousness!
It is you who created this blog to defend your faith to anyone who will doubt or question the truthfulness of your faith. Is your reply a humble admission that you cannot defend your belief if someone’s identity is unknown to you? You are giving your readers options on how they will identify themselves. One of them is anonymous or a pseudonym which distinguish themselves from others. DID YOU GIVE THIS CHOICE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT TO ACCUSED HIM OF BEING UNFAIR WHEN YOU ARE MESSED UP? IS IT YOUR WAY OUT IN YOUR WEAKNESSES AND INCAPABILITIES IN DEFENDING YOUR FAITH? CAN’T YOU DEFEND IN THIS BLOG YOUR FAITH AGAINST THOSE WHO QUESTION OR DOUBT YOUR BELIEF IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PERSONAL IDENTITY OR YOU CAN?
Allow me to make a “MINOR” correction in your words. I’m not fighting fire with fire. If that is your way of fighting, then it’s your choice but I won’t do that. I WILL QUENCH YOUR FIRE WITH WATER!
I hope you won’t do the same DECEPTIONS AND MISREPRESENTATIONS to your readers as what your fellow Catholic Defender, ISAHEL ALFONSO (who failed to look for solutions to an argument which made him quit) did in our supposed to be worthwhile discussion.
Shall I need to say, “PLEASE POST MY REPLY”?
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[It seems that you really want a fair and square discussion. If that is true, I'm greatly pleased.]
OF COURSE, I WANT A FAIR AND SQUARE DISCUSSION AND I'M GLAD THAT IT IS EVIDENT TO YOU AND THAT YOU ARE PLEASED WITH IT.
[Prove then that there is more in your words than air and it is not simply pompousness or pretentiousness!]
THERE IS NO NEED FOR ME TO PROVE IT BECAUSE I HAVE PROVEN IT. PERHAPS IT IS YOU WHO HAVE NOT PROVEN YOURSELF. YOUR CLAIM OVER AND AGAINST BRO. ISAHEL ALFONSO IS 'HOT AIR'.
BRO. ISAHEL HAS A POPULAR BLOG SIMILAR TO MINE AND WE'VE BEEN EXCHANGING WITH SO MANY PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS. WHILE YOU ARE ENTERING WITH PRETENTIOUS HOT AIR AS IF WE ARE NO MATCH TO YOU. EXCUSE ME. WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH ONLY ONE PERSON HERE. OUR BLOGS ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE FOR A SINGLE PERSON FULL OF HOT AIR LIKE YOU. WE HAVE EXCHANGED WITH SO MANY PEOPLE ALREADY WITH SEASONED EXPERIENCE IN PUBLIC FORUMS. UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM. I HARDLY KNOW YOU. WHO ARE YOU? ARE YOU A BIRD, A PLANE, A DOG OR SIMPLY AN ANIMAL?
IF YOU ARE REALLY THAT GOOD AS YOU CLAIM YOU ARE THEN OPEN YOUR OWN BLOG PRESENTING YOUR OWN DOCTRINES AND FAITH AND WE WILL VISIT YOU FROM VARIOUS DIRECTIONS AND WE SHALL SEE IF YOU ARE AS EFFECTIVE AS WE ARE.
[It is you who created this blog to defend your faith to anyone who will doubt or question the truthfulness of your faith.]
NICE THAT YOU KNOW THAT. AND I HOPE YOU KNOW AS WELL THAT AS THE OWNER OF THIS BLOG I HAVE TH PRIVILEGE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS OR IDEAS I PREFER TO ANSWER OR COUNTERACT AS I DEEM NECESSARY.
SO, FAR YOU DON'T HAVE THE NECESSARY CREDIBILITY TO MERIT MY FULL ATTENTION. I DO NOT SHADOWBOX. I DEAL WITH THOSE WHOM I CONSIDER IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO MERIT MY ATTENTION. SO FAR, YOU ARE ONLY HOT AIR AND NOTHING MORE.
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[Is your reply a humble admission that you cannot defend your belief if someone’s identity is unknown to you?]
YOU ARE FREE TO SPECULATE BASED ON YOUR DELUSIONS. BESIDES, HALLUCINATIONS ARE FREE IN THIS COUNTRY. SO ENJOY YOURS. HA HA HA...
SPEAKING OF HUMILITY... YOU ARE VERY HUMBLE WHEN YOU CLAIMED THAT BRO. ALFONSO IS A QUITTER AGAINST YOU? HOW NICE. HOW TOUCHING.
[You are giving your readers options on how they will identify themselves.]
IT IS NOT ME WHO GAVE THAT OPTION BUT THE GOOGLE COMPANY. IF THE MESSAGE FROM NON CATHOLICS ARE CIVIL AND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF DECENCY I POST THEM EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE AGAINST MY BELIEFS. THOSE WITH CURSES AND OBSCENITIES I REJECT.
BESIDES, THOSE I POSTS ARE USUALLY CLEAR IN THEIR POSITION: INC, ADD, JW, SDA, ATHEISTS, ETC. SO, WE CAN EASILY EXCHANGE IDEAS. WE CAN COMPARE OUR DOCTRINES. BUT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW YOUR FAITH, YOUR CHURCH AND YOUR DOCTRINES.
IT WILL MAKE OUR EXCHANGE ONE-SIDED. YOU CAN ATTACK ME WITH IMPUNITY BUT IT WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO HIT YOUR POSITION. EXCUSE ME. THAT IS NOT FAIR.
INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAITH AND YOUR CHURCH. LET ME KNOW YOUR DOCTRINES... THE REAL ONE NOT BASED ON DECEPTION. THEN YOU CAN QUESTION MY FAITH AND I WILL QUESTION YOURS. YOU ATTACK AND I WILL DEFEND, I WILL ATTACK AND YOU WILL DEFEND.
THAT IS THE RULE OF CHIVALRY. THAT IS THE BUSHIDO CODE. THERE IS RULE IN DEBATES WHETHER IN CLASSROOMS, IN PUBLIC PLAZAS OR IN BLOGS.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN THEN YOU ARE A PLAIN COWARD.
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[One of them is anonymous or a pseudonym which distinguish themselves
from others. DID YOU GIVE THIS CHOICE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMMENT TO
ACCUSED HIM OF BEING UNFAIR WHEN YOU ARE MESSED UP?]
INDEED I OPENED THIS BLOG. SO YOU HAVE TO ABIDE TO THE DEMANDS OF THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE... YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OWNER. NOT THAT YOU WILL IMPOSE WHAT YOU WANT ON ME. IF ON OTHERS I DIDN'T DEMAND SUCH A THING THAT IS MY PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AS AN OWNER. I CAN LET ANYONE I WANT INTO MY OWN HOUSE AND IN MY OWN TERRITORY. YOU WANT TO ENTER THIS TERRITORY BY CHALLENGING ME WITH 'HOT AIR' SUPERIORITY THEN SHOW YOURSELF. EXCUSE ME, SNAKES ARE NOT ALLOWED HERE.... IN FILIPINO 'BAWAL ANG AHAS DITO' OR BETTER 'PINAPATAY ANG AHAS DITO'! HA HA HA...
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN THEN YOU ARE A PLAIN COWARD. ON MY PART, I AM NOT HIDING. I AM FULLY REVEALED WHILE YOU ARE LURKING IN THE DARK LIKE THE EVIL SHELOB IN LORD OF THE RING OR LIKE THE PIRATES AND HOLD-UPPERS, OR RATHER LIKE SATAN.
[IS IT YOUR WAY OUT IN YOUR WEAKNESSES AND INCAPABILITIES IN DEFENDING YOUR FAITH?]
MY CAPABILITIES TO DEFEND OUR CATHOLIC FAITH DOES NOT NEED ANY PROOF. THE SUCCESS AND NUMEROUS READERS AND VISITORS OF THIS BLOG ARE LIVING TESTIMONIES FOR THAT. IT IS THE ANONYMOUS LIKE YOU WHO DON'T HAVE CREDIBILITY. YOU LACK NOT ONLY THE IDENTITY BUT ALSO THE COMPETENCE AND THE PROOF FOR SUCH.
I HAVE SERIES OF EXCHANGES HERE WITH THE PASTORS OF BEREANS, OF OTHER PASTORS OF THE BORN-AGAIN AND BAPTISTS AND EVEN PROFESSIONALS OF VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS. WHAT HAVE YOU GOT? HOT AIR.
[CAN’T YOU DEFEND IN THIS BLOG YOUR FAITH AGAINST THOSE WHO QUESTION OR DOUBT YOUR BELIEF IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR PERSONAL IDENTITY OR YOU CAN?]
OF COURSE I DO. I DID THAT AND I'M DOING IT STILL. THE RECORDS ARE HERE IN THE ARCHIVES. THE READERS HAVE READ THEM AND HAVE FOLLOWED THEM. BUT HOW ABOUT YOUR CLAIMS WHERE ARE THEY? AND EVEN IF YOU SHOW SOMETHING WHAT IS YOUR PROOF THAT YOU WERE THE ONE WHO DID THOSE THINGS? HOW CAN WE DETERMINE WITH CERTAINTY IF YOU WERE REALLY THE SOURCE OF THOSE IDEAS?
FOR SPECIAL PEOPLE WITH HOT AIR LIKE YOU I RATHER WANT TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SPECIAL. I WANT A FAIR AND SQUARE SWORD-FIGHTING. IN THAT CASE YOU CAN TRULY CLAIM VICTORY OVER ME, NOT AS A PIRATE ATTACKING IN THE DARK BUT AS A ONE WHO STOOD HIS GROUND TO A FELLOW MAN IN AN OPEN ARENA.
[Allow me to make a “MINOR” correction in your words. I’m not fighting fire with fire. If that is your way of fighting, then it’s your choice but I won’t do that. I WILL QUENCH YOUR FIRE WITH WATER!]
AFTER CLAIMING THAT YOUR PREVIOUS OPPONENT QUIT AGAINST YOU THAT STATEMENT IS ANOTHER HOT AIR. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY AND COMPETENCE TO PRETEND TO BE QUENCHING FIRE WITH WATER. IT SOUNDS NICE BUT ITS UNCONVINCING.
THE VERY FACT THAT YOU DEMAND TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN I'M ASKING YOU TO REVEAL YOURSELF AND YOUR POSITION IS A PROOF OF YOUR HYPOCRISY AND COWARDICE. IT IS A CLEAR MANIFESTATION THAT YOU ARE TREACHEROUS AND UNJUST.
ENOUGH OF YOUR SWEET-TALKING. REMOVE YOUR MASK. WEARING 'THE MASK OF ZORRO' IS NO LONGER FASHIONABLE THESE DAYS... IT'S AN OLD MOVIE. HA HA HA....
[I hope you won’t do the same DECEPTIONS AND MISREPRESENTATIONS to your readers as what your fellow Catholic Defender, ISAHEL ALFONSO (who failed to look for solutions to an argument which made him quit) did in our supposed to be worthwhile discussion.]
THIS IS JUST HOT AIR FROM A HIDDEN PIRATE OF THE CARIBBEAN. HA HA HA... WELL, JUST TO MAKE YOU HAPPY: 'I'M IMPRESSED... BY YOUR UNFOUNDED CLAIMS." HA HA HA...
[Shall I need to say, “PLEASE POST MY REPLY”?]
THERE IS NO NEED. WE WILL ENJOY IT AS A PROOF OF THE COWARDICE OF AN ANTI-CATHOLIC WHO REFUSES TO FIGHT FAIRLY AND SQUARELY. AN ANTI-CATHOLIC WHO PREFERS TO FIGHT THE WAY THE CRIMINALS, THE ASSASSINS, THE HOMICIDAL AND THE PIRATES USED TO. HA HA HA... IMAGINE, HOW PROUD YOU ARE OF THAT. HOW PROUD YOU ARE OF ATTACKING OTHERS WHILE HIDING YOURSELF. HA HA HA...
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN PLEASE GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO THIS ANTI-CATHOLIC COWARD. HE WANTS TO ENGAGE ME IN A DISCUSSION WITHOUT TELLING US WHAT AND WHO HE IS! CLAP, CLAP, CLAP!!!
HA HA HA...

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(applauses sarcastically.)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, Father, can I also fight like his way? Somehow a retaliation and/or as a recon guy....
WE CATHOLICS PREFER TO FIGHT HONORABLY. BUT IF THEY WILL CONTINUE LIKE THAT SURELY WE SHALL LEARN THE ART OF WAR. SOON, CATHOLICS WILL IMITATE AND USE THE SAME TECHNIQUE TO RETALIATE IN OTHER NON-CATHOLIC BLOGS. I DO NOT SUGGEST IT THAT IS WHY I AM NOT HIDDEN BUT WARRIORS ADAPT TO VARIOUS SITUATIONS...
ReplyDeleteA person who hides his identity is a person with no credibility. Geb has no credibility at all, he is afraid to reveal himself. Geb if you are not a coward why not come out and debate Catholic Apologist personally? Anti-Catholics know our identity because we do not hide it, we are not cowards like you and your cohorts. It is a total waste of time conversing with you because you keep on misinterpreting the facts and twist our words.
ReplyDeleteSEE, OF COURSE HE IS FREE TO TWIST YOUR WORDS WHY? BECAUSE HE IS HIDDEN. HE WILL NOT BE ASHAMED TO COMMIT FOUL THINGS BECAUSE HE IS HIDDEN. THAT'S A BIG NO, NO, NO...
ReplyDeleteIT MUST BE FAIR AND SQUARE. THE ONE WHO WILL DO FOUL THINGS SHALL BE PUT TO SHAME. IF YOU ARE A HIDING SNAKE THEN YOU CAN ATTACK WITH IMPUNITY. HA HA HA...
parang na-encounter ko na to si GEB fr. Abe! Iglesia ni Cristo member yan, ang yabang nyan sa mga forums feeling authority sa bible at history haha nakakatawa kasi puro lang claims, highly opinionated person pero sa facts and logic ay pordoy, pobre, zero, null!
ReplyDeleteGEB= Gaap,Elathan,Beelzebub
ReplyDeleteAnother stupid and fool heretic. How in the world did he have the nerve to say that you Father can't defend our faith while your blog is being frequently visited by Catholics like me and those who desecrate our beloved Church failed to defend their ignorance? His arguments just doesn't hold any water.
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KUNG INC lang din naman ang SEKTANG kinabibilangan nya.... ano pa bang PWEDENG ipag yabang nya? e ang dami ng INC na nakadebate ng BLOG na ito even sa iba pang Catholic Blogs. e parepareho din lang naman ang KINALALABASAN. tsk..tsk... dream on GEB(Grand Eye Ball???)
ReplyDeleteAs I've said:
ReplyDeleteINC is... UNFAIR.
And, one word to describe INC (1914)... hypocrites!
Regards,
ncv, jr.
TUTA PALA NI MANALO ITONG DUWAG NA AHAS NA ITO. HA HA HA...
ReplyDeleteMeron akong pasabog soon I'm researching for all the criminal cases na sabit ang INC lalo na si Felix Manalo hahaha Let's see kung until saan ang yabang nila...
ReplyDeleteREALLY? HE HE HE... THATS GREAT.
ReplyDeleteSi FYM, na nagtayo ng INC noong year 1914, ay ang itinuturing ng INC bilang sugo o another angel na binabanggit sa Rev. 7:1-4:
ReplyDeleteDRB:
Rev 7:1 After these things, I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that they should not blow upon the earth nor upon the sea nor on any tree.
Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the sign of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3 Saying: Hurt not the earth nor the sea nor the trees, till we sign the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them that were signed. An hundred forty-four thousand were signed, of every tribe of the children of Israel.
INCs, paki-confirm naman po ang mga sumusunod kung tugma sa inyong interpretasyon:
These things – Refer to war (?)
Four angels - Wilson of USA, George of Britain, Clemenceu of France, and Orlando of Italy
Another angels – Other than the four, a messenger of God whose name is Felix Manalo
Four corners of the earth – North, East, West, South
Saw – John’s vision of the future
The rising of the sun – Philippines
Sign of the living God – Preaching function
Father, tanong ko lang po:
1. May verses po ba sa Bible kung saan ang mga political leaders ay tinawag na “angels”?
2. Sino po sa tinatawag nilang Big 4 ang Catholics at Protestants? Sang-ayon po sa doktrina ng INC, ang Catholic at Protestant ay mga apostate churches.
3. Sa Rev. 7:2, meron pong binanggit na “And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels…”. Sa pagkakaunawa ko po, ang “he” refers to FYM. Ibig sabihin po ba na nakipag-communicate itong “another angel” sa four angels?
4. Isa pa po, di po ba dapat e nauna ang “Big 4” bago itong “other angel”? Natatag po ang INC noong 1914 at nabasa ko po somewhere na nagpulong lang itong so-called Big 4 sa Versailles Conference noong 1919?
5. Ano po itong “mizrach” at “kedem”? Ito raw po ang translation ng “east” sa Rev. 7:2 as opposed to kedem.
Father, sana po ay willing din si GEB (hope he's really an INC) na magpaliwanag dito sa blog ninyo. Para “fair” naman po..
Naitanong ko lang po ang ilang questions sa itaas based po sa pagkakaunawa ko sa doktrina ng INC (1914).
May mga kasunod pa po akong katanungan…
ncv, jr.
WELL BROTHER. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH AN ANONYMOUS DEMON. HIS POSITION IS NOT CLEAR AND DEFINITE. EVEN THOUGH REPORTS FROM OUR BROTHERS SAYS THAT HE IS AN INC. WE DON'T KNOW THAT THE MANALO PUPPIES ARE AS COWARDLY AS THAT ONE. HE HE HE... HE IS AFRAID TO FIGHT OPENLY. HE HE HE...
ReplyDeleteNako Father...grabe ang double time nang mga kampon ni Satanas ngayon..they are desperate in putting down the Church of Jesus Christ founded on Peter the Rock. Totoo nga pala ang kasabihan na LIKE FATHER LIKE SON...Their Father is Satan o Lucifer, the father of deceit and lies kaya naman pala puro kabobohan ang kanilang pinapakita ang ginagawa...hay nako...itong mga bagong tayo na sekta o denominasyon ay talagang makakapal ang mukha..matakot kayo sa Diyos mga BUANG kayo! Puro paninira at pamumuna lang ang ginagawa nyo sa Holy Catholic Church! Kung ako kayo...mag isip-isip muna kayo bago kayo manira...Kung ako kayo..i will reflect deeper...sino ba ang historical and true church founded by the Lord Jesus? yan lang! Hwag kayo paloko sa mga PUNO nyong mga TANGA AT BUANG!
ReplyDeleteFather Abe, thanks po sa prayers I arrived in Manila and back in Davao safe and sound. Praise the Lord!
Best regards,
Bro GM
GEB=Gunggong Engot Buwang
ReplyDeleteKahit nonsensical ang pagpopost ni GEB na short for GEBOBO or GEBAHO, napakaganda po ng sagot ninyo sa kanya, Father Abe. Siya nga ay isang tunay na hot air. Para siyang utot lang na biglang mawawala. HE HE HE...
ReplyDeleteNAGPAPAPANSIN SA AKIN. HA HA HA... SA KATATAGO NIYA NA REALIZED NIYA NA WALA NANG PUMAPANSIN SA KANYA. HA HA HA...
ReplyDeleteAng HOT AIR ni GEB (amoy EBAK) ay UTOT sa Tagalog. Bwa ha ha ha ha.
ReplyDelete-GEB
Gunggong na
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ang dami niyong father, akala ko po ba isa lang ang father ung nsa langit....???
ReplyDelete[ang dami niyong father, akala ko po ba isa lang ang father ung nsa langit....???]
ReplyDeleteOO KASI HINDI KAMI TANGA NA KAGAYA MO. NAGBABASA KAMI NG BIBLIA KAYA ALAM NAMIN NA MARAMING TAO ANG TINAWAG NA AMA SA BIBLIA:
Gen 12:1 He asked Abram to leave his father’s house.
Gen 17:5 He made Abraham father of many nations.
Gen 28:13 He called Abraham father of Jacob.
Ex 3:6 …I am the God of thy FATHER…
Ex 3:16 …say…The LORD God of your FATHERS…
Ex 20:12 HONOUR THY FATHER and thy mother… (Also, Dt 5:16)
Ex 22:17 If her FATHER utterly refuse to give her…
Ex 22:22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or FATHERless.
Ex 40:15 …anoint them, as thou didst their FATHER…
Lev 18 Yahweh used ‘father’ for people 9 times.
Lev 19:3 Ye shall fear every man his… FATHER…
Num 12:16 If her (Miriam) FATHER had but spit in her face… (also in Num 13:2)
Jer 7: 7, 14, 18, 22, 25-26 Yahweh called people ‘fathers’ 6 times.
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day that I took them by the hand… [Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day I took them by the hand to lead them out of the Land of Egypt…]
Ezek 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your FATHERS; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
These people who claims to be so knowledgeable in the contents of the Bible, most of the time simply, stumbles and falls when the question of "how the Bible came about? is put into discussion. Since most of them does not even know how this "book" ever became as we know of today.
ReplyDeleteThey reject infallibility and yet they themselves claim to be infallible, believing that what they have read based on their own knowledge is the only correct interpretation.
And yet when the question of how this book has ever became as we know today? They simply shun it off as if the topic in itself is not that important.
Tsk... tsk... tsk... and worst they even claim that they are the one who knows the Truth as if Jesus himself has given them this kind of authority when in reality their existence can only be traced to have begun in the 16th Century.
Hmmm... just what have happened to the people of God between 33AD and December of 1520? and how did the early Christians lived their Christian Faith between 33AD and 70AD if "the Bible alone" is the sole authority? :D
Just my "two cents".