The SSPX and otheR Traditionalists are the REMNANTS of our times. We are Faithful to the Traditions of our Fathers. This "modern day Church" is different from the Church of all Times, the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ. You are tainted with Modernism and Pluralism...and Ecumenism is a sugar coated poison of COMPROMISE...
You are even boasting of the Pope kissing the Qur'an. Hehe, your mind is already poisoned by the so called "ecumenism" a word and practice which was unknown in the True Catholic Church prior to Vatican II...now you are drinking this poison and encouraging people to do the same. So bad for you.
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[The SSPX and otheR Traditionalists are the REMNANTS of our times.]
OH, THIS IS VERY FAMILIAR. THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES, THE MORMONS, THE IGLESIA NI MANALO AND OTHER HERETICS ARE TEACHING THE SAME DOCTRINE. SO, YOU ARE ONLY CONFIRMING TO US ALL THAT THE SSPX IS INDEED HARBORING ON HERESY AND THEOLOGICAL DELUSIONS. HE HE HE...
[We are Faithful to the Traditions of our Fathers.]
YOU ARE UNFAITHFUL TO THE TRADITIONS OF THE FATHERS OF THE CHURCH. YOU ARE FAITHFUL TO YOUR FATHER - THE DEVIL - THE ORIGIN OF DECEPTION AND REBELLION AGAINST GOD AND AGAINST THE CHURCH.
[This "modern day Church" is different from the Church of all Times, the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ.]
YOU ARE FREE TO HALLUCINATE. WHAT YOU ARE STATING IS PROTESTANT STATEMENT DON'T YOU KNOW THAT? THAT IS THE ARGUMENT OF LUTHER AND CALVIN AND THE BORN AGAIN HERETICS: THAT THE CHURCH TODAY IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CHURCH OF THE APOSTOLIC TIMES. YOU SEE, THE DEVIL THAT POSSESSED LUTHER IS THE SAME DEVIL THAT POSSESSED LEFEBVRE.
[You are tainted with Modernism and Pluralism...and Ecumenism is a sugar coated poison of COMPROMISE...]
O NO, NO, NO... WE ARE NOT. THE PROOF IS THAT THE MODERNISTS HATE OUR POPES SO MUCH. THEY ATTACK OUR POPE FOR HIS TEACHING ON ETHICS AND MORALITY FROM ABORTION TO HOMOSEXUALITY, FROM CONTRACEPTION TO DIVORCE. THE MODERNISTS ARE ANTI-POPES JUST LIKE LEFEBVRE AND HIS SSPX DOGS.
THE POPE IS NOT TEACHING PLURALISM. BECAUSE THE POPE PROCLAIMS THE UNIQUENESS AND SUPREMACY OF CHRIST OVER ALL. HE PROCLAIMS THAT THE CHURCH HAS THE FULLNESS OF TRUTH. FOR THAT HE IS UNDER ATTACK BY OTHER RELIGIONS. HAVEN'T YOU NOTICE THAT THE PAGANS ARE AGAINST THE POPE BUT THEY DO NOT CRITICIZE LEFEBVRE? WHY? THEY BELONG TO THE SAME DEVIL.
CONCERNING ECUMENISM. THE POISON OF COMPROMISE IS EXISTING ONLY IN YOUR HEAD WHICH IS RADIOACTIVE WITH LEFEBVRE'S LUNACY. THE POPE NEVER COMPROMISED ANYTHING. JESUS IS STILL OUR ONLY LORD AND SAVIOR, NO MORE NO LESS. ONLY FOOLS WILL SAY OTHERWISE.
ECUMENISM IS DIALOGUE WITH OTHERS BELONGING TO DIFFERENT FAITH SO THAT THEY WILL SEE THE TRUTH OF CATHOLIC FAITH. IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE BIBLE YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT JESUS SHOUTED AT THE PHARISEES BUT TO THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO DIALOGUE HE TALKED WITH THEM PEACEFULLY AS FRIENDS. HE DID THAT TO NICODEMUS, TO THE YOUNG MAN ASKING QUESTION ABOUT WHAT TO DO FOR ETERNAL LIFE AND THE SAMARITAN WOMAN. DIALOGUE IS BASIC TO HUMANITY AND TO CIVILIZATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THE SSPX ARE STILL HUMANS OR IF THEY ARE AT LEAST CIVILIZED HUMAN BEINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE REFUSING DIALOGUE. THEY HYPOCRITICALLY WANT THE HOLY SEE TO DIALOGUE WITH THEM BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO DIALOGUE WITH OTHERS. THEY ARE FOOLS TO BE ETERNALLY DESTROYED... AGENTS OF DIVISIONS.
[You are even boasting of the Pope kissing the Qur'an.]
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE SSPX HAVE BECOME INFESTED BY THE SAME DEMON THAT POISONED THE MIND OF THE PHARISEES. EVEN THE POPE'S ACT OF CHARITY SUCH AS KISSING SOMETHING THAT IS SACRED TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAS BECOME EVIL FOR THEM. THEY SEE EVIL EVEN IN CHARITABLE ACTS. PHARISESS... SADDUCEES... THESE SSPX ARE.
IF THE FACE OF THE MOSLEMS CAN BE KISSED AS A GESTURE OF FRIENDSHIP ALSO THEIR HANDS AND THEIR FEET. ALSO THE MATERIAL THINGS VENERABLE TO THEM. PHARISEES...
[ Hehe, your mind is already poisoned by the so called "ecumenism" a word and practice which was unknown in the True Catholic Church prior to Vatican II...now you are drinking this poison and encouraging people to do the same. So bad for you.]
HA HA HA... THE IDIOT. IS THERE TRIDENTINE LATIN MASS IN THE SACRED SCRIPTURES? NONE. WAS THERE TRIDENTINE LATIN MASS DURING THE TIME OF THE APOSTLES? NONE. NEWNESS OF THE TERM DOES NOT MEAN BEING 'CONTRARY TO TRADITION'. IF THAT IS THE CASE YOU BELONG TO THE DEVILS BECAUSE THERE IS NO 'SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X' IN TRADITION EITHER.
ECUMENISM IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF EVANGELIZATION. IT IS ROOTED IN KERYGMA. THAT THE FAITH BE PROCLAIMED IN SEASON AND OUT OF SEASON. PART OF THAT IS TO EXPLAIN IT TO PEOPLE WILLING TO DIALOGUE ABOUT OUR FAITH. ONLY FOOLS WILL REJECT THAT.
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Because of Ecumenism hundreds of thousands of Episcopalians returned to the Catholic Church. How many Protestants and heretics did the SSPX lure back to the true Church? NONE! The Church Fathers and Counter Reformation Fathers viciously opposed heresies yet they are open to dialogue to those who are willing to listen and accept the teachings of the true Church. St. Francis de Sales converted 60,000 Calvinist in just 4yrs! by sharing with them the splendor of the Church. How about the SSPX how many Protestants were they able to convert? NONE!
ReplyDeleteEXCELLENT BRO. ISAHEL.
ReplyDeleteREMEMBER PETER SEEWARLD? HE IS A FAMOUS ATHEIST JOURNALIST. THEN, HE WAS ASSIGNED TO INTERVIEW THE CARDINAL RATZINGER IN SERIES OF INTERVIEWS IN FORM OF DIALOGUE. THAT INTERVIEW WAS PUBLISHED INTO A BOOK AND BECAME A BESTSELLER. AND THEY BECAME GOOD FRIENDS SO THAT THEY HAVE FOLLOW UP INTERVIEWS. BEFORE RATZINGER BECAME POPE PETER SEEWALD BECAME CATHOLIC. HE HE HE...
THE SSPX PRIESTS ARE BUNCH OF IDIOTS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO DIALOGUE. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE VERY GOOD IN DIVING THE CHURCH INSTEAD OF BRINGING PROTESTANTS IN.
SSPX is a disgrace to St. Pope Pius X.
ReplyDeleteThey don't deserve to be called as SSPX but SOL "Society of Lefebvre"
Pope Pius X is loyal to the Church's doctrine but SSPX are close minded traditionalist.
Even some of SSPX called themselves Catholics but they are not true followers of the Holy Mother Church. Looks like they are wolves in sheep's clothing. A true Catholic should always be loyal to the Successor of Peter.
As Jesus Christ said, "I pray that all may be One just as You and I are One"
SSPX have broken the words of Jesus Christ by separating themselves from the Catholic Church.
WELL SAID BRO. KEB.
ReplyDeleteJesus did not mean that we place God side-by-side of pagan gods. The Jews also did the same exact thing as the "false" ecumenism spirit of today. ;-) God was not pleased to be placed side-by-side of those pagan gods. Jesus did not mean you gain people by profaning God but by converting them toward the True Catholic Faith.
ReplyDelete[Jesus did not mean that we place God side-by-side of pagan gods.]
ReplyDeleteAND WE NEVER MEAN TO PLACE GOD SIDE BY SIDE OF PAGAN gods. NEVER EVER. THAT ACCUSATION IS THE PRODUCT OF THE MALICE AND EVIL INTENT OF THE SSPX NOT OF OUR OWN DOING. THE PROBLEM IS IN THEIR MIND NOT IN OUR ACTIONS AND INTENTIONS.
[The Jews also did the same exact thing as the "false" ecumenism spirit of today.]
YOUR FALSE NOTION OF ECUMENISM. OUR NOTION OF ECUMENISM IS NOT FALSE BUT TRUE. OURS MEANS DIALOGUE AND INVITING OTHERS TO ENTER INTO THE CHURCH. DON'T IMPOSE ON US YOUR OWN DELUSIONS.
[ ;-) God was not pleased to be placed side-by-side of those pagan gods.]
AGAIN, WE ARE NOT IDIOTS LIKE YOU TO PLACE GOD SIDE BY SIDE WITH PAGAN DEITIES. EXCUSE ME. YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND.
[ Jesus did not mean you gain people by profaning God but by converting them toward the True Catholic Faith.]
WE ARE CONVERTING THEM TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH. THE SSPX ARE NOT CONVERTING THEM TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH INSTEAD THEY FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF LUTHER. BUT OUR MISSIONARIES UNDER THE PAULINE MASS CONVERT SO MANY PAGANS TO BECOME CATHOLICS. SO, DREAM ON.
Thank God! Papa Benny is trying to rectify errors of the previous Assisi events: "No inter-religious prayer planned for Assisi event" (http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=12042)
ReplyDeleteFR. ABE:
ReplyDeleteWITH OR WITHOUT PRAYER MEETING IT IS THE POPE'S CALL. AND WHAT JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DID WAS GOOD. THE SSPX FINDS EVIL IN THE GOODNESS OF THE POPES BUT THEY TWIST THE EVIL OF LEFEBVRE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS GOOD. INDEED, SATAN CAN DISGUISE HIMSELF AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT BUT HE CANNOT DECEIVE THE CHURCH WHO EXCOMMUNICATED THE TRAITOR.
Padre,
ReplyDeleteI think the issue raised against the previous Assisi events was the "relativization of the Catholic faith". We (i.e., Catholics, Christians, Moslems, Bhuhdists, Animists, unbelievers etc) can all be "pilgrims of peace", we can respectively commit ourselves/our religion to the cause of peace, but we can never "pray together" as this would consequently put into question to whom do "we" offer our prayer in a singular prayer event.
In the previous Assisi events, who could have had a sane mind that allowed the installation of the statue of Buddha above the tabernacle of a Catholic Church and let the Buddhists to pray there to Buddha in front of the Lord Jesus reserved in the Tabernacle? Who could have had a sane mind that have allowed non-catholic/non-christian prayer service in a Catholic Church as if it is not consecrated and just some kind of an ordinary prayer hall used by protestants?
These practices in the previous Assisi events, covered by international and local media, risked our faith. Many thought that the Catholic belief is just equal and may serve as an alternative to the many different faiths/confessions around the world. Many ordinary Catholics now find it "OK" to attend protestant Sunday services in lieu of the Mass. Many ordinary Catholics now think that the Catholic faith, the Baptist, the INC and Sabadista etc as "pare-pareho [lang yan]".
Truly, called by the Pope, we can all go to Assisi to commit ourselves to peace; but, we can never pray there with the Moslems, Buddhists, Animists and much less with the Atheists, who do not believe in a God but praise only the self.
FR. ABE:
ReplyDelete[I think the issue raised against the previous Assisi events was the "relativization of the Catholic faith". We (i.e., Catholics, Christians, Moslems, Bhuhdists, Animists, unbelievers etc) can all be "pilgrims of peace", we can respectively commit ourselves/our religion to the cause of peace, but we can never "pray together" as this would consequently put into question to whom do "we" offer our prayer in a singular prayer event.]
THE POPE DIDN'T RELATIVIZE THE CATHOLIC FAITH BY PRAYING TOGETHER WITH OTHER RELIGION. HE ONLY SHOWED TO THE WORLD THAT HE IS INDEED THE HEAD OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH AND THAT HIS MORAL AS WELL AS SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN UNITE THE WHOLE WORLD.
WHEN THE POPE INVITED THEM TO PRAY WITH HIM IT WAS AN INVITATION TO PRAY AND NOT TO WORSHIP PAGAN IDOLS. BESIDES, WE BELIEVE THAT THE ONLY ONE GOD IS THE CHRISTIAN GOD AND THEREFORE THE PRAYERS OF OTHERS ARE NIL AND VOID BUT WE STILL RESPECT THEM. WHAT THE POPE HAS DONE IS TOO LEAD THESE PEOPLE IN A WAY OF PEACE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE ONE TRUE GOD AND THE CATHOLIC FAITH. THE LORD JESUS SAID "BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS"... UNFORTUNATELY THE HEART OF LEFEBVRE IS BARREN OF PEACE.
[Inthe previous Assisi events, who could have had a sane mind that allowed the installation of the statue of Buddha above the tabernacle of a Catholic Church and let the Buddhists to pray there to Buddha in front of the Lord Jesus reserved in the Tabernacle? Who could have had a sane mind that have allowed non-catholic/non-christian prayer service in a Catholic Church as if it is not consecrated and just some kind of an ordinary prayer hall used by protestants?]
YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF WHO SHOULD HAVE A MIND TO INVENT SUCH ACCUSATIONS WHEN IN FACT IT WAS NOT DONE DURING THE ASSISI PRAYER MEETING. I SAW IT ON TV BEFORE BUT THERE WAS NO SUCH THING. THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS WERE ONLY GATHERED IN A RECTANGULAR FORM AND THEY RECITED PRAYERS ADDRESSED TO GOD. THE SSPX INVENTED LIES AND THEY HAVE STARTED BELIEVING THEIR OWN LIES. THEY SUCCUMBED TO THEIR OWN PROPAGANDAS.
FR. ABE [Cont.]
ReplyDeleteThese practices in the previous Assisi events, covered by international and local media, risked our faith. Many thought that the Catholic belief is just equal and may serve as an alternative to the many different faiths/confessions around the world. Many ordinary Catholics now find it "OK" to attend protestant Sunday services in lieu of the Mass. Many ordinary Catholics now think that the Catholic faith, the Baptist, the INC and Sabadista etc as "pare-pareho [lang yan]".
THE POPE CLEARLY STATED HIS INTENTIONS FOR THE ASSISI PRAYER MEETING AND NONE OF THEM MENTIONED THAT HE ACCEPT ALL RELIGIONS AS EQUAL. NONE AT ALL.
DURING THE PRAYER MEETING ITSELF THERE IS NO STATEMENT OF THAT KIND. SO WHERE DID YOU GET THAT? THAT IS A PRODUCT OF YOUR IMAGINATION.
THE POPE LEAD THE OTHER RELIGIOUS LEADERS IN PRAYER IS THAT GOOD OR BAD? GOOD! ONLY EVIL-MINDED PEOPLE WILL TURN TO EVIL WHAT IS GOOD. UNFORTUNATELY THE SSPX MIND IS POISONED BY EVIL-INTENTIONS. THEY ARE SEEING GHOSTS WHERE THERE I NONE.
Truly, called by the Pope, we can all go to Assisi to commit ourselves to peace; but, we can never pray there with the Moslems, Buddhists, Animists and much less with the Atheists, who do not believe in a God but praise only the self.
THE POPE PRAYED TO THE LORD JESUS. HE IS THE GREAT INTERCESSOR OF HUMANTY AS THE VICAR OF CHRIST. IF OTHERS DIDN'T PRAY TO GOD THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM BUT THE POPE SHOWED THEM THE GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW IT IS TO PRAY TO THE LORD JESUS. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. WHEN THE WORLD IS AT WAR PEOPLE FROM OTHER FAITH PRAYS TOGETHER AND SO THE POPE INVITED THE WORLD'S RELIGIOUS LEADERS TO PRAY SIDE BY SIDE WITH HIM WHILE HE IS PRAYING TO OUR GOD. IF WE REMEMBER IT RIGHT, PRAYER MEETING AT ASSISI WAS INSPIRED BY THE GULF WAR, BY 911 TERRORISTS ATTACKS AND OTHERS. THOSE WHERE REALLY SPECIAL MOMENTS FOR THE FAMILY OF THE WORLD TO PRAY TOGETHER. AND THE POPE DID THAT WITHOUT VIOLATING THE CREED AND DOGMAS OF THE CHURCH. THE VIOLATION IS AT THE LUNATIC MIND OF THE SUPPORTERS OF LEFEBVRE.
Padre,
ReplyDeleteCertainly, the Pope did not intend to relativize the faith. I would like to believe that his call to gather all religious leaders in Assisi and pray with them was done with good intentions. However, the outcome was different. It paved way for the belief that the Catholic faith is just but one among many. We can all be peacemakers but not in the manner of inter-religious prayer.
Padre, with all due respect, I did not invent any of those events. During the 1986 Assisi event, there occurred a "Prayer in different places". I would like to highlight two:
1. The Los Angeles Times reported that “It was the more esoteric religions that drew the largest crowds of onlookers, the most sought‑after was Chief John Pretty‑onTop” a Medicine Man of the Crow Indians who conducted his superstitious ritual in full Indian regalia, including headdress.
The Indian Chief “offered stentorian intonations against the evil sprits in the Crow language, waving a straw fan like a magic wand. A pieta painting, depicting the dying Jesus with the Madonna looking down on him from behind the altar.”
2. The Buddhists, led by the Dalai Lama, quickly converted the altar of the Church of San Pietro by placing a small statue of the Buddha atop the tabernacle and setting prayer scrolls and incense burners around it. Accordingly, even the Vatican’s Cardinal Oddi voiced public disapproval of the Assisi outrage:“On that day ... I walked through Assisi ... And I saw real profanations in some places of prayer. I saw Buddhists dancing around the altar upon which they placed Buddha in the place of Christ and then incensed it and showed it reverence. A Benedictine protested and the police took him away ... There was obvious confusion in the faces of the Catholics who were assisting at the ceremony.”
Perhaps, the Pope was unaware of this happening while he was praying with Christians in the Lower Basilica. But these happened. Surely, any good Catholic will be unhappy of this show.
[Padre,
ReplyDeleteCertainly, the Pope did not intend to relativize the faith. I would like to believe that his call to gather all religious leaders in Assisi and pray with them was done with good intentions.]
RYAN,
THANKS BE TO GOD. HOWEVER, YOU DID NOT PRESENT IT WELL. YOU ARE MAKING IT APPEAR AS IF THE POPE AND THE CHURCH RELATIVIZED THE FAITH. YOU ARE NOT CLEAR ON YOUR STATEMENTS. BOTH THE POPE'S INTENTIONS AND ACTIONS ON ASSISI PRAYER MEETINGS WERE GOOD. SO DON'T PUT MALICE ON WHAT IS GOOD AND DON'T TWIST THE GOOD TO MAKE IT EVIL.
[However, the outcome was different.]
THE OUTCOME WAS GOOD. IT WAS UNIVERSALLY PRAISED AS SPECIAL MOMENT IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND THAT THE BISHOP OF ROME EXERCISED HIS SPIRITUAL AND MORAL LEADERSHIP ON THE WORLD LEADERS. HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN UNITE THEM IN SUCH A MANNER. NO POLITICAL OR ECCLESIASTICAL OR RELIGIOUS LEADER IN THE WORLD CAN ACCOMPLISH SUCH A THING.
[It paved way for the belief that the Catholic faith is just but one among many.]
IT PAVED THE WAY FOR SUCH AN INTERPRETATION IN YOUR MIND BUT NOT IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. DON'T INSIST THE DISTORTION EXISTING IN YOUR MIND. THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH AND THE ONE YOU THOUGHT TO BE THE OUTCOME OF SOME ACTIONS OF THE CHURCH. GET REAL.
[We can all be peacemakers but not in the manner of inter-religious prayer.]
ReplyDeleteWHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT? YOU ARE NOT THE POPE. ONLY THE POPE CAN SAY SUCH A THING AND HE SAYS OTHERWISE. I DO NOT RECOGNIZE YOUR AUTHORITY ON THAT MATTER. YOUR OPINION IS NICE BUT IRRELEVANT TO THE CASE AT BAR.
[Padre, with all due respect, I did not invent any of those events.]
YOU INVENT THE ACCUSATIONS ARISING FROM IT. YOU DISTORT THE MEANING OF THE EVENT TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SSPX AGENDA. YOU ARE TWISTING THE INTERPRETATIONS OF THE PRAYER MEETING EVENT TO SUIT THE SSPX OBJECTIVE TO UNDERMINE THE VATICAN II AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE. EXCUSE ME, THAT IS FOUL.
[During the 1986 Assisi event, there occurred a "Prayer in different places".]
IT IS BECAUSE THEY MUST PRAY SEPARATELY. SINCE SOME OF THEM BELIEVE IN DIFFERENT DEITY THAN THE REAL ONE THAT WE HAVE. THIS FACT ALONE DISPROVES YOUR EARLIER CLAIMS THAT WE MADE OUR GOD EQUAL TO THEIR gods.
[ I would like to highlight two:
ReplyDelete1. The Los Angeles Times reported that “It was the more esoteric religions that drew the largest crowds of onlookers, the most sought‑after was Chief John Pretty‑onTop” a Medicine Man of the Crow Indians who conducted his superstitious ritual in full Indian regalia, including headdress.
The Indian Chief “offered stentorian intonations against the evil sprits in the Crow language, waving a straw fan like a magic wand. A pieta painting, depicting the dying Jesus with the Madonna looking down on him from behind the altar.”]
THE LOS ANGELES TIMES IS A SECULAR NEWSPAPER WHICH IS DEFINITELY NOT AN AUTHORITY IN CATHOLIC THEOLOGY AND DOCTRINES. OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL OF THAT NEWSPAPER IS TO CREATE SENSATIONAL ISSUES THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THEIR MARKET VALUE.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE INDIANS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS AND THEREFORE ARE PAGANS. THAT IS ALREADY GIVEN. IF THEY PRAYED THAT WAY THAT IS ALREADY GIVEN. BUT TO SAY THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH APPROVED SUCH PRAYER AND THAT WE MADE IT EQUAL WITH OUR INTERCESSORY PRAYERS IS A LIE. THAT IS WHY THEY WERE SEPARATED TO A DIFFERENT ROOM.
[2. The Buddhists, led by the Dalai Lama, quickly converted the altar of the Church of San Pietro by placing a small statue of the Buddha atop the tabernacle and setting prayer scrolls and incense burners around it. Accordingly, even the Vatican’s Cardinal Oddi voiced public disapproval of the Assisi outrage:“On that day ... I walked through Assisi ... And I saw real profanations in some places of prayer. I saw Buddhists dancing around the altar upon which they placed Buddha in the place of Christ and then incensed it and showed it reverence. A Benedictine protested and the police took him away ... There was obvious confusion in the faces of the Catholics who were assisting at the ceremony.”]
IF THE BUDDHISTS DID THAT THEY WERE WRONG. BLAMED THE BUDDHISTS WHO DID THAT AND NOT THE POPE WHO DIDN'T DO IT. BLAMED THE PERSONS IN CHARGE OF SUCH DETAILS. BUT TO CLAIM THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH MADE BUDDHA EQUAL WITH THE LORD JESUS - THE KING OF KINGS - IS A LIE.
IF THERE ARE MISTAKES IN A CERTAIN OCCASIONS WE MUST CORRECT THE MISTAKES. BUT TO CLAIM THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ABANDONING OR DILLUTING OR RELATIVIZING ITS CATHOLIC FAITH TO BE EQUAL WITH THE PAGANS IS WRONG AND A LIE.
BESIDES, THAT UNFORTUNATE MISTAKES IF THEY ARE INDEED TRUE ARE NOT ENOUGH REASONS TO ABANDON THE GOOD OBJECTIVES AND NATURE OF INTER-RELIGIOUS DIALOGUE. WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE, INTER-RELIGIOUS WAR? INTER-RELIGIOUS SNOBBINGS? INTER-RELIGIOUS HATRED? WHAT?
[Perhaps, the Pope was unaware of this happening while he was praying with Christians in the Lower Basilica.]
WHEN THE POPE WAS PRAYING IN THE BASILICA THERE WAS A CLEAR PROGRAM APPROVED FOR THE OCCASION. THAT WAS THE ASSISI PRAYER MEETING NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND. IF A CATHOLIC COMMITTED BLASPHEMY OUTSIDE OF THE BASILICA OR WITHIN THE PARTICO OF A BASILICA IT IS STUPID TO CLAIM THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ALLOWED BLASPHEMY INSIDE THE CHURCHES.
[But these happened. Surely, any good Catholic will be unhappy of this show.]
I DOUBT IT IT REALLY HAPPENED THE WAY YOU ARE DISCRIBING IT. THE SSPX ARE FAMOUS FOR THEIR LIES AND DECEITS. I DON'T TRUST THEM AND THEIR SOURCES.
IF THAT HAPPENED THAT IS UNFORTUNATE BUT I WILL NOT DECEIVE PEOPLE THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OR THE POPE HAVE RELATIVIZED THE FAITH. THAT IS FOUL AND THAT IS DEMONIC.
Hindi kami ignorante, alam namin yan. At alam din namin na nung kinausap ng Panginoong Jesus si Nicodemus, hindi niya kinompromise ang Faith. Dialogue yun in a sense na DALAWA ang nag-uusap, pero hindi yun dialogue dahil wala dun ang prinsipyong "Let us not talk on things that divides us, let us talk on things that unites us."
ReplyDeleteSINONG BALIW ANG NAGTURO SA IYO NANG "LET US NOT TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT DIVIDES US"... HALLUCINATION NA NAMAN. HE HE HE... AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED WE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT UNITE US AND THE THINGS THAT DIVIDE US. HE HE HE... MGA KULANG-KULANG TALAGA ITONG MGA SSPX NA ITO.
THE SSPX ANIMALS ARE BECOMING EXACTLY LIKE THE INC, SDA AND ADD CHARLATANS... THEY ARE FOND OF HIDING IN ANONYMITY. THEY ARE BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER.
ReplyDeleteSiguro kung nabuhay ka sa panahon ng Arianism at nung inExcommunicate ni Pope Liberius si St. Athanasius baka Arian ka na rin kasi pilit mong sinasabi na YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT THE POPE SAYS....HAHA! Hindi naman Diyos ang Santo Papa at pwede siyang magkamali. THe Pope is there to teach the Tradition, not to innovate it. Pwedeng magkamali ang Santo Papa lalo kung hindi siya nagtuturo Ex Cathedra...
ReplyDeleteSEe, almost all the Bishops during the time of Athanasius are Arians and he was excommunicated, madali mong masasabi sa panahon ngayon na tama si St. Athanasius kasi tinitignan mo ang panahon nila ilang daang taon na ang nakakalipas. Pero kung andun ka, malamang isa ka sa mga NAGMUMURA KAY ATHANASIUS at BUMABASTOS SA MGA TAGASUNOD NIYA...HAHA!
GO ON! BE A ROLE MODEL NG KABASTUSAN SA MGA TUTA MO...HAHAHAHA!!!
[Siguro kung nabuhay ka sa panahon ng Arianism at nung inExcommunicate ni Pope Liberius si St. Athanasius baka Arian ka na rin kasi pilit mong sinasabi na YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT THE POPE SAYS....HAHA!]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... TALAGANG SIRA-ULO NA ITONG MGA SSPX ANIMALS NA ITO. IMAGINE, THEY ARE NOW PARROTING THE PROTESTANT ACCUSATIONS AGAINST POPE ST. LIBERIUS. HOY, IF YOU ARE IGNORANT THE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST POPE ST. LIBERIUS IS BASED ON FORGED DOCUMENTS. POPE LIBERIUS WAS A VALIANT DEFEDER OF ST. ATHANASIUS AND WAS EXILED IN DEFENSE OF ST. ATHANASIUS AS WELL AS FOR HIS REFUTATION OF THE ARIAN HERESY.
IN FACT, IN THE LIST OF POPES POSTED IN THE WALLS OF THE BASILICA OF ST. PAUL OUTSIDE THE WALLS HE IS LISTED AS A SAINT, IT IS SUPPORTED BY 16 MARTYROLOGIES AND HIS FEAST DAY WAS ASSIGNED IN PRE-VATICAN II LITURGY ON SEPTEMBER 23. OBVIOUSLY, THE SSPX HAS BECOME PROTESTANTS IN MIND AND HEART AND IN PRACTICE. HOW DARE YOU MALIGN THE POPE ON WHOSE INSPIRATION OUR LADY SHOWED THE DESIGN OF SANTA MARIA MAGGIORE BASILICA. POPE LIBERIUS WAS HIGHLY PRAISED BY STS. ATHANASIUS, AMBROSE AND OTHER OF HIS CONTEMPORARIES. ONLY ENEMIES OF THE FAITH MALIGNS HIM, AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
IF WE ARE LIVING DURING THE TIME OF ST. ATHANASIUS I WOULD BE DEBATING THE ARIANS AS I DEBATED THE HERETICS OF TODAY. IT WAS PAUL VI, JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND RATZINGER-BENEDICT XVI WHO REFUTED THE HERESIES OF TODAY NOT THE SSPX. AND WE THE CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS ARE THE ONES DEBATING THE ENEMIES OF THE FAITH NOT THE SSPX WHO ARE DOING NOTHING BUT SCRATCHING THEIR LEGS IN THEIR EXTRAVAGANT, POMPOUS LITURCIGAL CLOTHES.
WHO AMONG THE PRIESTS OF SSPX ENGAGED THE ARIAN HERESIES OF IGLESIA NI MANALO? NONE! THEY ARE BUNCH OF COWARDS JUST LIKE LEFEBVRE DURING THE VATICAN II. SILENT AND INSIGNIFICANT BUT OUTSIDE HOWLING LIKE A SENILE WOLF IN THE WINTER OF HIS LIFE.
[Hindi naman Diyos ang Santo Papa at pwede siyang magkamali.]
ANG SANTO PAPA ANG PINILI NG DIOS PARA HINDI TAYO MALIGAW SA PAGKAKAMALI. BAKIT SI LEFEBVRE BA DIOS? SI PILAY-FELLAY BA DIOS? SILA BA HINDI NAGKAKAMALI? ANG PAPA MAY DIVINE INSPIRATION SI LEFEBVRE - THAT WACKY OLD FOOL IS NOT INFALLIBLE AND NOT DIVINE. DREAM ON. SA SANTO PAPA AKO HINDI SA ULYANIN MONG LIDER NA SIRA-ULO.
[THe Pope is there to teach the Tradition, not to innovate it.]
ReplyDeleteTHE POPE TEACHES THE TRADITION AND HE DIDN'T INNOVATE. HE PURIFIED IT AND MADE IT SIMPLE. HE REMOVED THE NON-NECESSARIES SUCH AS THOSE EXPENSIVE, EXTRAVAGANT AND POMPOUS CLOTHES.
[Pwedeng magkamali ang Santo Papa lalo kung hindi siya nagtuturo Ex Cathedra...]
MAS LALONG PWEDENG MAGKAMALI SI LEFEBVRE DAHIL KELAN MAN HINDI SIYA PWEDENG MAGTURO NG EX CATHEDRA. ANG SSPX AY HINDI PWEDENG MAGTURO NG EX CATHEDRA DAHIL WALA ITONG KARAPATAN AT AUTORIDAD. MGA NANGANGARAP NG GISING. MANANATILI KAMI SA VICAR OF CHRIST KESA SA EXCOMMUNICADONG KAURI NI LUCIFER AT LUTHER. MGA LITURGICAL AND CANINICAL SSPX TRAITORS. MGA ASONG ULOL SA LABAS NG SANTA IGLESIA.
[SEe, almost all the Bishops during the time of Athanasius are Arians and he was excommunicated,]
YUNG MGA OBISPONG MGA NAGING ARIANS SILA AY TULAD NI LEFEBVRE NA NAGING TRAIDOR SA SANTO PAPA. SI ST. ATHANASIUS AY HINDI LUMABAN SA SANTO PAPA. SA HALIP PINURI PA NIYA SI POPE ST. LIBERIUS DAHIL SA KATAPATAN NITO NA KAHIT NA EXILED PINAGLABAN PA RIN ANG TUNAY NA PANANAMPALATAYA. HINDI SIYA TRAIDOR NA TULAD NI LEFEBVRE.
PEKE AT FORGERY ANG CLAIM THAT POPE ST. LIBERIUS EXCOMMUNICATED ST. ATHANASIUS. IN FACT, SIYA ANG NAGBALIK KAY ST. ATHANASIUS FROM EXILE.
[madali mong masasabi sa panahon ngayon na tama si St. Athanasius kasi tinitignan mo ang panahon nila ilang daang taon na ang nakakalipas.]
TAMA SI ST. ATHANASIUS DAHIL ITO ANG TINURO NG SANTO PAPA AYON SA BIBLIA AT APOSTOLIC TRADITION. SI LEFEBVRE AY HINDI TULAD NI ST. ATHANASIUS... SI ATHANASIUS NILABANAN NIYA SI ARIUS HINDI ANG PAPA. SI LEFEBVRE ANG SANTO PAPA ANG NILABANAN KAYA KAMPON SIYA NG KADILIMAN. SIYA AY MANIFESTATION NG GATE OF HELL NA BINABANGGIT NI LORD SA MATTHEW 16:18.
[Pero kung andun ka, malamang isa ka sa mga NAGMUMURA KAY ATHANASIUS at BUMABASTOS SA MGA TAGASUNOD NIYA...HAHA!]
HA HA HA... GUNI-GUNI MO LAMANG IYAN. SI FELLAY AT SI WILLIAMSON AT ANG MGA PARI NG SSPX AY MGA DUWAG LUMABAN SA MGA ARIAN PASTORS NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO. KAMI ANG LUMALABAN. SURELY, KUNG NANDUON KAMI NUNG PANAHON NI ATHANASIUS GAGAWA RIN AKO NG BLOG REFUTING THE ARIAN HERESIES OF ARIUS. SI LEFEBVRE, FELLAY AT WILLIAMSON TAHIMIK LANG KASI MGA DUWAG. LITURGY LANG ANG PAG-UUSAPAN NILA. MAMIMILI LANG SILA NG MAGAGANDA AT MAMAHALING DAMIT SA CONSTANTINOPLE AT ALEXANDRIA AT SA ROME.
[GO ON! BE A ROLE MODEL NG KABASTUSAN SA MGA TUTA MO...HAHAHAHA!!!]
KAYO ANG MGA BASTOS. MGA LITURGICAL ANIMALS... MGA CANONICAL SERPENTS... MGA ANAK NG INYONG AMANG DIABLO. MGA WALANG SILBI SA LIPUNAN, PURO LANG KAARTEHAN SA LITURHIYA ANG GUSTO.