The Servant of God, His Holiness Pope Paul VI, of Blessed Memory... Viva el Papa. Down with the Traitor Lefebvre.
*****HOW ABOUT TLM BEFORE QUO PRIMUM WAS IT REQUESTED BY THE FAITHFUL?******
No. It developed gradually sa paglipas ng panahon, but what happened was kung anu yung nadevelop gradually sa paglipas ng panahon e biglang pinalitan ng ganoon kadali. At kung pagkukumparahin ang Novus Ordo at Traditional Latin Mass eh hindi sila magkamukha, may pagkakapareho pero mas malaki ang pagkakaiba.Ang daming binago, instead of making it more beautiful, pinapangit. At ang daming inilagay, tinanggal, inilipat o binago sa Misa na nagdulot ng pagdududa ng ilang Katoliko sa Misa."For many" pinalitang ng "For all" Yung "Mysterium Fidei" inilipat sa pagkatapos ng elevation ng Host.Yung pagtanggap ng Hostia sa Kamay, na nagiging cause ng libo-libong abuse.etc.Lahat yan may epekto sa theology ng liturgy, at siyempre it is the faithful's right na magkaroon ng moral certitude sa liturgy. It is the faithful's right to know certainly if those things invalidates the sacraments or not, and if the Novus Ordo Mass profess the Full Catholic Faith like the Traditional Latin Mass.Ayaw niyo palang umatend ang mga Parishioners niyo sa Traditional Latin Mass ng mga SSPX bakit di niyo ibigay sa kanila ang hanap nila. Lalo niyo lang kaming pinalalakas sa pagiging madamot ninyo sa kanila. Haha! WE ARE THE REMNANT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH..THANK YOU JESUS FOR PRESERVING THE TRADITION THROUGH US..AMEN.
Fr. Abe, CRS said...
*****HOW ABOUT TLM BEFORE QUO PRIMUM WAS IT REQUESTED BY THE FAITHFUL?******
[No.]
YOU SEE WHAT KIND OF LITURGICAL ANIMALS YOU ARE. YOU ARE REJECTING THE PAULINE MASS FOR COMING OUT OF A COMMISSION WHEN IT FACT THE TLM WAS THE SAME. IT WAS NOT REQUESTED BY THE PEOPLE AND THE POPE IMPOSED IT ON THE FAITHFUL BY HIS OWN AUTHORITY ALONE AFTER A SPECIAL COMMISSION THAT HE FORMED.
[It developed gradually sa paglipas ng panahon, but what happened was kung anu yung nadevelop gradually sa paglipas ng panahon e biglang pinalitan ng ganoon kadali.]
O NO, NO, NO... IT DIDN'T DEVELOP GRADUALLY. YOU ARE LYING. POPE PIUS V COMMISSIONED A PANEL OF EXPERTS TO COMPOSE IT COMING FROM THE OLDER RITES AND LITURGIES:
"We decided to entrust this work to learned men of our selection. They very carefully collated all their work with the ancient codices in Our Vatican Library and with reliable, preserved or emended codices from elsewhere. Besides this, these men consulted the works of ancient and approved authors concerning the same sacred rites; and thus they have restored the Missal itself to the original form and rite of the holy Fathers. When this work has been gone over numerous times and further emended, after serious study and reflection, We commanded that the finished product be printed and published as soon as possible, so that all might enjoy the fruits of this labor..." [Pope St. Pius V, QUO PRIMUM]
TLM IS AN EFFECT OF A SINGLE WORK. IT WAS A FINISHED PRODUCT COMING FROM A SINGLE POOL OF EXPERTS WHO WORKED ON A TIME DURATION AS REQUESTED BY THE POPE THEN.
[At kung pagkukumparahin ang Novus Ordo at Traditional Latin Mass eh hindi sila magkamukha, may pagkakapareho pero mas malaki ang pagkakaiba.]
HA HA HA... THE ESSENCE IS THE SAME ONLY THE ACCIDENTS OR SUPERFICIAL THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. THEY BOTH HAVE THE FOLLOWING:
1. Entrance Procession
2. Kissing of Altar
3. Sign of the Cross
4. Kyrie
5. The Gloria
6. Readings
7. The Creed
8. Offertory
9. Preface
10. Sanctus
11. Canon
12. Holy Communion
13. Prayer & Blessing
14. Kissing of the Altar
15. Final Procession
BOTH CONTAINS THE THEOLOGY AND DOCTRINES OF TRANSUBSTANTATION AND CHRIST'S ETERNAL SACRIFICE.
THE DIFFERENCE ARE SUPERFICIAL:
1. Latin Language for TLM and Local language for Pauline Mass2. Extravagant and expensive clothes for TLM and simplified for Pauline Mass.
THESE ARE ONLY TWO OF THE EXAMPLES... VERY MINOR THINGS EXCEPT FOR FOOLS LIKE LEFEBVRE.
[Ang daming binago, instead of making it more beautiful, pinapangit.]
MAS MAGANDA NGA KASI SIMPLE AT NAIINTINDIHAN. HINDI PARANG FASHION SHOW OF NOBLES DURING THE TIME OF CHARLEMAGNE. THE USE OF THOSE EXTRAVAGANT AND EXPENSIVE CLOTHES ARE SCANDALOUS FOR THE PEOPLE OF TODAY. EVEN THE KINGS AND THE QUEENS ARE NO LONGER WEARING THOSE KINDS OF CLOTHES. IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP TO REALITY THAT WE ARE NO LONGER LIVING IN MIDDLE AGES.
[At ang daming inilagay, tinanggal, inilipat o binago sa Misa na nagdulot ng pagdududa ng ilang Katoliko sa Misa.]
YUNG MGA NILAGAY AY NAPAKAKA-GAGANDA. LAHAT GALING SA BIBLIA AT SA SACRED TRADITION:
1. RESPONSORIAL PSLAM - Only demons will reject the Psalms which are Messianic Prophecies and Word of God.
2. SECOND READINGS - Only demons will reject the Acts of the Apostles and the Epistles for Reading Readings. These are Word of God.
3. PRAYER OF THE FAITHFUL - Only demons will reject the Intercession of Saints.
THAT IS WHY OBVIOUSLY THE SSPX IS DEMON-INFESTED BECAUSE EVEN THE WORD OF GOD IS BECOMING EVIL FOR THEM.
ANONG TINANGGAL? LATIN? LATIN BECAME THE LANGUAGE OF THE LITURGY WHEN THE USE OF GREEK DIMINISHED. SO WHEN LATIN DIMINISHED THE POPE ALLOWED THE USE OF THE VERNACULAR WITHOUT REMOVING LATIN BECAUSE LATIN IS STILL THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH. IN FACT, LATIN WAS FORMERLY A VULGAR LANGUAGE... LATINA VULGATA. IT WAS FORMERLY A VERNACULAR LANGUAGE USED BY THE CHURCH. SO WHEN THE POPE ALLOWED THE VERNACULAR IT WAS IN ACCORD WITH TRADITION.
SO WHAT KUNG MAY INILIPAT. BAKIT MASAMA BANG MAGLIPAT? ANG TLM NGA NAGLIPAT DIN DAHIL IBA ANG POSITION NG MGA PRAYERS THAN WITH THE MORE ANCIENT BYZANTINE LITURGY.
["For many" pinalitang ng "For all"]
PAREHONG TAMA IYON DOCTRINALLY AND THEOLOGICALLY. DAHIL ANG SALVATION GIVEN BY JESUS AY HINDI LANG FOR MANY KUNDI FOR ALL:
John 1:29 "This is the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world."
THE SALVATION OF CHRIST IS 'FOR' ALL HUMANITY AND NOT ONLY FOR SOME. THIS IS FURTHER EXPLAINED BY ST. PAUL:
1 Timothy 2:3-4 "For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, Who will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."
LEFEBVRE IS IGNORANT OF THESE VERSES AND HE PASSED ON HIS IGNORANCE ON HIS FOLLOWERS.
THE SSPX ARE HYPOCRITES. THEY PRETEND TO BE AGAINST MODIFICATIONS OF THE LITURGY BUT IN FACT THEY DID THE SAME. EXAMPLES:
* INAUDIBLE RECITATION OF THE INSTITUTION NARRATIVE.
DID JESUS SPOKE THE INSTITUTION NARRATIVE: "THIS IS MY BODY" AND "THIS IS MY BLOOD" INAUDIBLY? NO. HE WAS HEARD BY THE APOTLES OTHERWISE HOW DID THEY KNEW THAT HE PRONOUNCED THOSE WORDS. THEY HEARD HIM DURING THE FIRST HOLY MASS. SO WHEN POPE PAUL VI ALLOWED THE RECITATION OF THE CANON TO BE HEARD IT WAS BIBLICAL AND APOSTOLIC AND NOT A MERE INNOVATION DURING THE 16TH CENTURY.
[Yung "Mysterium Fidei" inilipat sa pagkatapos ng elevation ng Host.]
THE TLM ADDED THE WORDS "MYSTERIUM FIDEI" IN THE WORDS OF JESUS WHEN ALL BIBLICAL TEXTS PRESENTING THE INSTITUTION NARRATIVE DO NOT CONTAIN SUCH STATEMENT FROM THE LORD. IT WAS A LITURGICAL INNOVATION. THAT IS WHY POPE PAUL VI DID CORRECTLY TO SEPARATE IT AGAIN FROM THE WORDS OF THE DIVINE MASTER. POPE PAUL VI FOLLOWED THE APOSTOLIC TRADITION.
NAGAGALIT KA DAHIL NILIPAT ANG 'MYSTERIUM FIDEI' KASI BOBO KAYO SA BIBLIA. HINDI NINYO ALAM NA WALA YON SA APOSTOLIC TESTIMONY GIVEN BY ST. MATTHEW, ST. MARK, ST. LUKE AND ST. PAUL IN THEIR LAST SUPPER ACCONT. WALA RIN IYAN SA BREAD OF LIFE DISCOURSE NI ST. JOHN. OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A LATER ADDITION. THE POPE HAS FULL AUTHORITY TO TRANSFER IT.
[Yung pagtanggap ng Hostia sa Kamay, na nagiging cause ng libo-libong abuse.]
SA TLM ANG ABUSES AY NAGAGANAP SA NGALA NGALA AT SA DILA. KUNG ANG TAO AY MAKASALANAN KAHIT NAKALUHOD MAKASALANAN PA RIN. KUNG MAKASALANAN ANG KAMAY MAKASALANAN DIN ANG DILA AT NGALA NGALA AT MGA NGIPIN AT LAPI AT BITUKA AT LALAMUNAN NG TAONG NAGKO KOMUNYON. KAYA PWEDE BA TIGILAN ANG KAIPOCRITOHAN.
[etc.
Lahat yan may epekto sa theology ng liturgy, at siyempre it is the faithful's right na magkaroon ng moral certitude sa liturgy.]
THERE IS MORAL CERTITUDE IN LITURGY. IT IS IN YOUR MINDS THAT THERE IS NO MORAL CERTITUDE BECAUSE OF YOUR DISOBEDIENCE AND REFUSAL TO ACCEPT THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE. ACTUALLY THE POPE ENRICHED THE LITURGICAL THEOLOGY BY MAKING EXPLICIT THE EPICLESIS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE PAULINE MASS, UNLIKE IN TLM THAT IS VERY VAGUE AND AMBIGUOUS. AND BECAUSE OF LATIN MANY OF THE PEOPLE OF PRIOR TO VATICAN II WERE IGNORANT OF THE LITURGY SO THEY PREFER TO RECITE NOVENAS AND ROSARIES DURING THE MASS OBLIVIOUS OF THE ETERNAL SACRIFICE IN FRONT OF THEM.
[ It is the faithful's right to know certainly if those things invalidates the sacraments or not, and if the Novus Ordo Mass profess the Full Catholic Faith like the Traditional Latin Mass.]
HA HA HA... THE PAULINE MASS IS VALID AND NO SSPX DEMONS FROM LEFEBVRE DOWN TO YOU CAN MAKE IT INVALID. IT IS THE POPE WHO IS THE ULTIMATE JUDGE OF THE LITURGY NOT YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE. HE HE HE... SORRY FOR YOU.
[Ayaw niyo palang umatend ang mga Parishioners niyo sa Traditional Latin Mass ng mga SSPX bakit di niyo ibigay sa kanila ang hanap nila. Lalo niyo lang kaming pinalalakas sa pagiging madamot ninyo sa kanila. Haha!]
BINIBIGAY NAMIN AT IBIBIGAY NAMIN ANG HANAP NILA. SUBALIT MINSAN HINDI NAMIN KAGAD IBINIBIGAY DAHIL KONTI LANG NAMAN ANG NAGHAHANAP. ALMOST ALL ARE HAPPY WITH THE PAULINE MASS. HA HA HA... KONTI LANG ANG MGA BALIW NA TULAD NIO SA DAIGDIG NA ITO. ALMOST ALL ARE HAPPY WITH THE MASS OF PAUL VI AND THOSE WHO ASKED FOR TLM ALSO ACCEPT THE PAULINE MASS. SORRY FOR YOU. HA HA HA...
WE ARE THE REMNANT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH..
[THANK YOU JESUS FOR PRESERVING THE TRADITION THROUGH US..]
DON'T BLASPHEME THE LORD JESUS. HE DECLARED THAT THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST PETER. WHILE IN YOUR TEACHING THE POPES HAVE BECOME MODERNISTS. LUTHER ACCUSED THE POPE OF ABANDONING THE TRUE FAITH... LEFEBVRE ACCUSED THE POPE OF ABANDONING THE TRUE FAITH. EXACTLY THE SAME. LUTHER AND LEFEBVRE BELONG TO THE SAME DEVIL OF DISOBEDIENCE. YOU UPHELD NOT THE SACRED TRADITION BUT THE TRADITION OF LUCIFER - REBELLION AND DISOBEDIENCE.
[AMEN.]
THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT. AMEN, AMEN, AMEN.
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Padre, napansin ko po, bakit parang lagi kayong galit pag sumasagot?
ReplyDelete(Robert Poblete)
SINONG HINDI GALIT SA MGA SCHISMATICO AT MGA HERETICO? IKAW BA HINDI KA GALIT SA MGA TRAIDOR SA SANTA IGLESIA?
ReplyDeleteMagandang araw po,
ReplyDeletepwede po ba magtanong.
sino po ba ang pinakahuling apostol na nabuhay at kelan namatay ang pinakahuling apostol?
Akala ko po kasi ay si Apostle Peter pero parang si Apostle John po ata? maraming salamat po
Let us accept the fact that in the Novus Ordo the "reform was radical and a rupture." I totally agree with Dr. Alcuin Reid, an internationally recognized liturgical historian in http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2011/10/interview-with-dr-alcuin-reid-in.html .
ReplyDeleteKung may Apostolic Latter sana na nagturo na ang Novus Ordo Mass ay Protestant in origin,maaring tama ang ang argument ng SSPX kaya wala e at wala talaga...
ReplyDeleteTama lang si Fr. Abe. Tama lang din ang paraan ng pagpapaliwanag niya. Tama lang din para sa mga heretico na maka-resib ng ganung klaseng mga pananalita para magising sila sa katotohanan.
ReplyDeleteNagpapasalamat ako sa Panginoon sa pagkakaroon ng isang katulad ni Fr. Abe na bukod sa matalino nang magpaliwanag ay tunay ngang isang apologist ng simbahang Katoliko.
Idinadalangin ko sa Panginoon na sana ay magpadala pa siya ng maraming Pari na katulad ni Fr. Abe, isang mahusay na Apologist sa panahon natin ngayon.
Mabuhay po kayo Fr. Abe.
Praise God!!!
Praise Jesus!!!
FR. ABE:
ReplyDelete[Let us accept the fact that in the Novus Ordo the "reform was radical and a rupture." I totally agree with Dr. Alcuin Reid, an internationally recognized liturgical historian]
I AGGREE WITH THE POPE BECAUSE THE POPE IS DIVINELY INSPIRED TO PRESERVE THE SACRED TRADITION AND IT IS THE POPE WHO IS THE ULTIMATE JUDGE ON LITURGICAL, CANONICAL AND DOCTRINAL MATTERS... NOT THE WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE AND NOT ANY DOCTOR AROUND. EVEN THE DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH TEACH US TO FOLLOW THE POPE.
FR. ABE:
ReplyDelete[pwede po ba magtanong.
sino po ba ang pinakahuling apostol na nabuhay at kelan namatay ang pinakahuling apostol?
Akala ko po kasi ay si Apostle Peter pero parang si Apostle John po ata? maraming salamat po]
SI SAN JUAN APOSTOL! HE DIED A NATURAL DEATH AND LIVED UNTIL HIS OLD AGE.
With all due respect, then Cardinal Ratzinger had this to say on the new Mass. He and Reid almost say the same.
ReplyDelete"The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In place of the liturgy, fruit of a continual development, they have placed a fabricated liturgy. They have deserted a vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication.They did not want to continue the development, the organic maturing of something living through the centuries, and they replaced it, in the manner of technical production, by a fabrication, a banal product of the moment.
(Revue Theologisches, Vol. 20, Feb. 1990, pgs. 103-104)"
Padre may itatanong po ako,
ReplyDeleteSabi po sa CCC
Who belongs to the Catholic Church?
#836 "All men are called to this catholic unity of the People of God. . . . And to it, in different ways, belong or are ordered: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally ALL MANKIND, called by God's grace to salvation."
Ibig po bang sabihin kahit yung mga unevangelized member din po ng Simbahang Katoliko? Kahit po yung mga hindi baptized?
Salamat po.
P.S. Kalamayin ninyo ang inyong loob sa pagsagot sa tanong ko.
(Robert Poblete)
Let us accept the fact that in the Novus Ordo the "reform was radical and a rupture."
ReplyDeleteas cardinal Montini he gave his point of view in the liturgy that "ceremonies must one again be reduced to a simplier form. THis does not mean however of casting off the beauty of divine service and its symbolic power, but merely shortening ceremonies and removing whatever is repitious and over complicated". (THe Rhine flows into Tiber, pg 27)
I totally agree with Dr. Alcuin Reid, an internationally recognized liturgical historian in http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2011/10/interview-with-dr-alcuin-reid-in.html .
Let us accept the fact that Dr. Alcuin Reid can have his study on liturgy but the final authority on the liturgy rest with Paul VI and his successors. Continuity or rupture the Church- as the council of Trent in its 24th session says-
"It furthermore declares, that this power has ever been in the Church, that, in the dispensation of the sacraments, their substance being untouched, (l) it may ordain,- or change, what things soever it may judge most expedient, for the profit of those who receive, or for the veneration of the said sacraments, according to the difference of circumstances, times, and places."
FR. ABE:
ReplyDelete[Sabi po sa CCC
Who belongs to the Catholic Church?
#836 "All men are called to this catholic unity of the People of God. . . . And to it, in different ways, belong or are ordered: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally ALL MANKIND, called by God's grace to salvation."
Ibig po bang sabihin kahit yung mga unevangelized member din po ng Simbahang Katoliko? Kahit po yung mga hindi baptized?]
OBVIOUSLY NA HINDI MO GINAGAMIT ANG MATA MO AT ANG UTAK MO NUNG BINASA MO ANG ARTICLE NA IYAN NG CCC. GAMITIN ANG ISIP PLEASE.
WALANG SINABI DIYAN NA LAHAT KAHIT HINDI BAPTIZED AY MEMBERS NG CHURCH. WALA. ANG SABI DIYAN "ALL MEN ARE CALLED TO CATHOLIC UNITY"... IBIG SABIHIN GUSTO NG DIOS NA LAHAT NG TAO MAGING CATHOLIC. IKAW AYAW MO BA NON? HE HE HE... ALL PEOPLE ARE ORDERED BY GOD TO THE TRUE FAITH. HINDI SINABING "ALL PEOPLE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH". GETS MO?
NAKU NAMAN, SIMPLENG BAGAY LANG E NILOLOKO PA ANG SARILI.
NGAYON, SINO ANG MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH? NASA NEXT ARTICLE. ITO:
837 "Fully incorporated into the society of the Church are those who, possessing the Spirit of Christ, accept all the means of salvation given to the Church together with her entire organization, and who - by the bonds constituted by the profession of faith, the sacraments, ecclesiastical government, and communion - are joined in the visible structure of the Church of Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but 'in body' not 'in heart.'"321
ANG TUNAY AT DALISAY NA MIEMBRO NG SANTA IGLESIA AY IYONG NAKATANGGAP NG KANYANG MGA SACRAMENTO, NAGPAPAHAYAG NG CATHOLIC "PROFESSION OF FAITH" AT SAKOP NG KANYANG GOVERNMENT.
ANG SSPX AY ILLEGAL AT UNCANONICAL ANG MGA SACRAMENTS AT BINALASUBAS ANG GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY NG CHURCH. KAYA HINDI SILA DALISAY AT TUNAY NA MGA CATOLICO.
Salamat po.
P.S. Kalamayin ninyo ang inyong loob sa pagsagot sa tanong ko.
PANATAG KONG TINATANGGAP ANG MGA KATANGAHAN AT PANLOLOKO NG MGA SSPX. PATI INTERPRETASYON NG CCC AY BINABABOY NINYO.
ReplyDeleteFR. ABE:
ReplyDelete[With all due respect, then Cardinal Ratzinger had this to say on the new Mass. He and Reid almost say the same.
"The liturgical reform, in its concrete realization, has distanced itself even more from its origin. The result has not been a reanimation, but devastation. In place of the liturgy, fruit of a continual development, they have placed a fabricated liturgy. They have deserted a vital process of growth and becoming in order to substitute a fabrication.They did not want to continue the development, the organic maturing of something living through the centuries, and they replaced it, in the manner of technical production, by a fabrication, a banal product of the moment.
(Revue Theologisches, Vol. 20, Feb. 1990, pgs. 103-104)"]
EXCUSE ME. YOU DEFINITELY TAKE THAT QUOTE OUT OF CONTEXT. CARDINAL RATZINGER WAS CORRECTING THE ABUSES IN THE LITURGY BUT HE ACCEPTED THE VALIDITY OF THE PAULINE MASS AND HE HIMSELF CELEBRATED IT WITH DIGNITY AND GRACE. DREAM ON.
THE SSPX DEMONICALLY TWISTS THINGS IN ORDER TO FIND SUPPORT FOR THEIR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION. THEY ARE LIKE DOGS WALLOWING IN MUDPIES.
I think the issue between Rome and SSPX is on the validity of the Novus Ordo. Certainly, just like any Catholic loyal to the Pope, I acknowledge the validity of the new Mass. I am outside that issue between Rome and SSPX.
ReplyDeleteMy concern is simply the acknowledgment of the fact that in the Novus Ordo the "reform was radical and a rupture." It was not an "organic development." But, despite of this, yes, I recognize the Novus Ordo Mass as valid. This, perhaps, is also the line of thought of Reid and Ratzinger. In this way, we remain truly Catholic loyal to the See of Peter.
FR. ABE:
ReplyDelete[I think the issue between Rome and SSPX is on the validity of the Novus Ordo. Certainly, just like any Catholic loyal to the Pope, I acknowledge the validity of the new Mass. I am outside that issue between Rome and SSPX.]
THANKS BE TO GOD. BUT OBVIOUSLY THE POISON OF SSPX ON THE VALIDITY OF THE PAULINE MASS HAS PENERATED YOU ALREADY.
My concern is simply the acknowledgment of the fact that in the Novus Ordo the "reform was radical and a rupture." It was not an "organic development." But, despite of this, yes, I recognize the Novus Ordo Mass as valid. This, perhaps, is also the line of thought of Reid and Ratzinger. In this way, we remain truly Catholic loyal to the See of Peter.
THERE IS NO RAPTURE AND THE CHANGE WAS NOT RADICAL. ACTUALLY, WHEN THE PAULINE MASS WAS INTRODUCED THERE WAS NO RIOTS ON THE STREETS AND NO MAJOR PROTESTS IN THE CHURCHES.
ALMOST ALL THE FAITHFUL ACCEPTED IT THE WAY THE CATHOLICS OF THE 16TH CENTURY OBEYED POPE PIUS V WHEN HE ISSUED THE "NEW RITE" THAT WAS TLM IN QUO PRIMUM. ONLY SOME PROTESTED... THOSE WITH PROTESTANT MINDSET JUST LIKE LEFEBVRE. IN FACT, 99.999999999% OF THE CATHOLICS ACCEPTED THE PAULINE MASS. UNTIL NOW DECADES LATER THE SSPX REMAINS AN INSIGNIFICANT GROUP IN THE LIFE OF THE CHURCH... THE BORN AGAIN AND THE IGLESIA NI CRISTO HAS EXPERIENCED MUCH GREATER GROWTH THAN THESE LITURGICAL TRAITORS.
IF THERE IS A RADICAL CHANGE WHAT IS THAT? I ENNUMERATED THE ESSENCE OF THE MASS ABOVE. WHICH IS LACKING? LATIN? EXCUSE ME. LATIN IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE MASS. THE GREEK MASS IS A TRUE MASS EVEN WITHOUT LATIN.
Puro ka ganyan...pinalalabas mong masama kami.
ReplyDeleteIpost mo yung itinype kong comment. HIndi yung itinatago mo. DECEPTIVE.
ABA AT ANG KAPAL NG MUKA NITO.
ReplyDeleteHINDI KO NA KAILANGANG PALABASIN NA MASAMA KAYO DAHIL TALAGANG MASAMA KAYO. ANG KAPAL NG MUKA NINYONG ATAKIHIN ANG SANTO PAPA TULAD NG MGA PROTESTANTS PERO KUNWARI YOU KEEP CATHOLIC TRADITION. HOW DARE YOU.
YUNG MGA COMMENTS NINYO NAKAPASKEL DITO. AYAN... NAMNAMIN MO ANG COMMENT MONG WALANG SILBI.
hi fr. abe
ReplyDeletemeron din po akong isang kilalang congregation na gumagamit ng TLM type of mass palagi.
i was invited one tym to an ADORE EUCHARISTIC CONGRESS organized by the OATH priests and brothers. that 2 day event nagkaroon po kami ng mass and that is in latin form.
and receiving communion by kneeling and by tounge .
i asked one brother (SEMINARIAN) kung bakt gnun, what he told me is that it is because it is more sacred to celebrate the mass in the chosen language of the church. at para din daw maiwasan ang ibang abuses. it is also better din daw po na mag receive kami ng communion by tounge.
and napansin ko lang na parang napaka sacred din nung mass pag in latin form din.
tapos naka gloves din po ung mga servers nila....
and sila lang po ung nakita kong hindi tumatalikod kapag naka exposed ang sacred host. na parang hndi ko naman nakikita sa ibang mga pari sa parish namin...
i just want to share this one.
naisip ko lang na maganda din ung TLM mass.
by the way fr. im an mhcc here in paranaque.
AVE MARIA.
Fr. Bakit di ka nag oopen ng blog? Bakit ayaw mong sagutin yung post ko? Naiskandalo ka ba? Btw eto pa na maaari mong idagdag sa kaalaman mo about the Novus Ordo.
ReplyDeleteEto ang mga pangalan ng mga protestanteng knunsulta ni Bugnini sa pag-gawa na Novus Ordo: Dr. George, Canon Jasper, Dr. Shephard, Dr. Konneth, Dr. Smith and Brother Max Thurian. Sila ay kinatawan ng mga sumusunod na protestanteng organisasyon: The World Council of Church, the Church of England, the Lutheran Church, and the Protestant Community of Taize.
I research mo ha.
[Fr. Bakit di ka nag oopen ng blog? Bakit ayaw mong sagutin yung post ko? Naiskandalo ka ba?]
ReplyDeleteBAGO KA MAGPA-AGOS SA IYONG GUNI-GUNI GAMITIN MUNA ANG ISIP. KAYA AKO TUMAHIMIK DAHIL UMALIS AKO NG MAHIGIT ISANG LINGGO PARA MAGBIGAY NG MGA SEMINARS AND TALKS UPANG TURUAN ANG MGA CATHOLICS NA WAG PANIWALAAN ANG MGA KASINUNGALINGAN NINYO.
[Btw eto pa na maaari mong idagdag sa kaalaman mo about the Novus Ordo.]
NAKU, NAGDUNONG DUNUNGAN NA NAMAN.
[Eto ang mga pangalan ng mga protestanteng knunsulta ni Bugnini sa pag-gawa na Novus Ordo:]
GAWA-GAWA NYO LAMANG IYAN. ISANG KAULULAN NG MGA SSPX ANIMALS PARA SUSUGAN ANG KANILANG DISOBEDIENCE SA SANTO PAPA. WALA NI ISANG ELEMENTO NG PAULINE MASS ANG GALING SA PROTESTANTS. WALANG WALA.
[Dr. George, Canon Jasper, Dr. Shephard, Dr. Konneth, Dr. Smith and Brother Max Thurian.]
SILA SILA MEMBER NG COMMISSION NA PINILI NI POPE PAUL VI, of Blessed Memory. THEY EXIST ONLY IN THE MALICIOUS MIND OF THE WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE.
SI MAX THURIAN AY NAGING CATHOLIC DAHIL KAY POPE PAUL VI AT DAHIL SA PAULINE MASS. GANON DIN SI DR. SCOTT HAHN, FORMER BAPTIST PREACHER STEVE RAY, MARCUS GRODI, JEFF CAVINS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS MORE. PERO ANG SSXP INUTIL SA PAG CONVERT NG MGA PROTESTANTS.
[Sila ay kinatawan ng mga sumusunod na protestanteng organisasyon: The World Council of Church, the Church of England, the Lutheran Church, and the Protestant Community of Taize.]
NAKAKATAWA. THE CHURCH IS IN ECUMENICAL DIALOGUE WITH THESE GROUPS BUT THEY WERE NOT THE ONES WHO REVISED THE LITURGY. WE ARE TALKING TO THEM JUST LIKE THE HOLY SEE IS TALKING WITH THOSE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH LIKE THE SSPX LITURGICAL AND CANONICAL TRAITORS.
[I research mo ha.]
INDEED I HAVE RESEARCHED AND I'VE FOUND OUT THAT YOUR CLAIM IS BASED ON HEARSAY.
Asan na po ung post ko about challenging you? madaya ka talaga, namimili ka ng comments na ipopost mo..ung kaya mo lang sagutin pinopost mo, mapanlinlang ka...
ReplyDeleteFr. Abe bakit kulang yung comments. Parang before that meron akong isa pang commentyung two part comment na sinagot ko yung ilan mong paratang sa Latin Mass.
ReplyDeleteHay na ko alam mo lang sagutin yung may bala ka? Btw tama ka Max Thurian converted to Catholicism but he condemned the revision of the liturgy. Tska magsuot ka ng salamin at aralin mo yung tagalog mo. sinabi ko ba na sila ang nagrevised? ay ay ay. ang sabi ko KINUNSULTA para ang layo naman nun sa ibig sabihin ng nagrebisa. tsk. tsk. tsk.
ulitin ko ulit ung pako parte sa una kong comment na hindi pinost dahil nasupalpal ka.
naiskadalo ba ang lolo at lola mo sa Misa nung kapanahunan nila dahil sa kasuutan ng pari at magagara at mamahaling kalis?
naiskandalo ba si Don Bosco?
naiskandalo ba si Padre Pio?
Ikaw, kasama ni Bugnini, Anscar Chupungco, ng mga protestante, komunista, atheist at iba pang maka kaliwa at kunyaring katoliko ang naiskandalo...
wag mag deny napost yan sa itaas.
[Fr. Abe bakit kulang yung comments. Parang before that meron akong isa pang commentyung two part comment na sinagot ko yung ilan mong paratang sa Latin Mass.]
ReplyDeleteSINABI KO NA SAYO NA MATAGAL AKONG NAWALA DAHIL SA SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS. INUNA KUNG SAGUTIN ANG MGA LATEST MESSAGES NA NATANGGAP KO KESA SA MGA LUMA. KAYA PASENSIYA KA. KUNG GUSTO MONG MABASA LAHAT NG GUSTO MONG SABIHIN MAGTAYO KA NG SARLI MONG BLOG UPANG MALAMAN MO KUNG MERONG MGA BALIW NA MAGBABASA AT BIBISITA SA BLOG MO AT IDEAS MO. DUON PWEDE MONG ISULAT LAHAT NG GUSTO MO.
[Hay na ko alam mo lang sagutin yung may bala ka?]
WALA KA NGANG BALA E. KUNG ANO MAN ANG MGA KABALIWAN NA SINULAT MO DUON SA MGA IYON E HINDI PARIN SAPAT PARA PAGTAKPAN ANG MGA KABALIWAN AT HEREISYA NG SSPX.
[ Btw tama ka Max Thurian converted to Catholicism but he condemned the revision of the liturgy.]
MAX THURIAN BECAME A CATHOLIC DAHIL KAY POPE PAUL VI AT HINDI DAHIL SA HAYUP NINYONG LIDER NA SI LEFEBVRE. HINDI SUMAPI SA INYO SI MAX THURIAN DAHIL HINDI SIYA SIRA ULO. AT HINDI TUTUONG HE CONDEMNED THE REVISION OF THE LITURGY DAHIL NAGSISIMBA SIYA SA PAULINE MASS. NAMATAY SI MAX THURIAN NA FAITHFUL SA MGA SANTO PAPA HINDI TRAIDOR NA KAGAYA NI LEFEBVRE AT KAGAYA MO.
[Tska magsuot ka ng salamin at aralin mo yung tagalog mo. sinabi ko ba na sila ang nagrevised? ay ay ay. ang sabi ko KINUNSULTA para ang layo naman nun sa ibig sabihin ng nagrebisa. tsk. tsk. tsk.]
TANGA KA PALA E. E DI INAMIN MO NA WALANG KINALAMAN ANG MGA PROTESTANTENG BINANGGIT MO SA LITURGICAL REVISION. ANG PUNTO DIYAN E LAHAT NG ELEMENTO NG PAULINE MASS GALING SA CATHOLIC TRADITION AT SA BIBLIA WALANG GALING SA PROTESTANTE. YAN ANG PATUNAY NA PALPAK ANG AKUSASYON MO. GAWA-GAWA MO LANG IYAN. IMBENTO NI LEFEBVRE - THAT WACKY OLD FOOL.
[ulitin ko ulit ung pako parte sa una kong comment na hindi pinost dahil nasupalpal ka.]
NASUPALPAL? HA HA HA... HINDI ANG URI MO ANG SUSUPALPAL SA AKIN. MAGSAMA PA KAYO NI LEFEBVRE SA IMPIERNO.
[naiskadalo ba ang lolo at lola mo sa Misa nung kapanahunan nila dahil sa kasuutan ng pari at magagara at mamahaling kalis?]
OO. KAYA NGA NANG DUMATING ANG VATICAN II ANG HALOS LAHAT NG OBISPO NA SIYANG REPRESENTATATIVES NG CATHOLIC FAITHFUL FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AY PUMAYAG SA LITURGICAL RENEWAL. KAYA NGA LAHAT NG OBISPO LIBAN SA SIRA ULO MONG LEFEBVRE AY SUMANG-AYON LATER ON SA PAULINE MASS.
KAHIT ANG LIDER NG TRADITIONAL FACTION NA SI CARDINAL OTTAVIANI NAMATAY NG TAPAT SA SANTO PAPA AT NAGMISA NG PAULINE MASS. GAYON DIN SI SIS. LUCIA NG FATIMA AT SI MOTHER TERESA NG CALCUTTA.
[naiskandalo ba si Don Bosco?]
SI DON BOSCO AY HINDI TRAIDOR SA SANTO PAPA. KAYA KUNG SA PANAHON NIYA NAGANAP ANG REVISION HINDI SIYA SASAMA KAY LEFEBVRE SA KATRAIDURAN. HINDI SIYA AHAS NA KATULAD NINYO.
[naiskandalo ba si Padre Pio?]
HINDI NAISKANDALO SI PADRE PIO SA PAULINE MASS. ANG MGA NAKABABATANG CAPUCHIN FRIARS NA KASAMA NIYA AY NAGMIMISA NA NG PAULINE MASS SUBALIT HINDI NAGREKLAMO SI PADRE PIO. HINDI LUMABAN SI PADRE PIO KUNDI HUMINGI NG AUTHORIZATION NA IPAGPATULOY ANG TLM NIYA BECAUSE OF "OLD AGE". SUBALIT HINDI SIYA LUMABAN SA PAPA AT HINDI NAMINTAS SA PAULINE MASS. KAYA SANTO SIYA HINDI KATULAD NG HAYUP NA SI LEFEBVRE NA TRAIDOR AT LAPASTANGAN SA SANTO PAPA. SI PADRE PIO AY PARANG SI CARDINAL OTTAVIANI. PAREHONG TAPAT SA SANTO PAPA.
[Ikaw, kasama ni Bugnini, Anscar Chupungco, ng mga protestante, komunista, atheist at iba pang maka kaliwa at kunyaring katoliko ang naiskandalo...]
HA HA HA... SIRA ULO KA PALA E. PAREHO KAYO NG MGA PROTESTANTE AT COMMUNISTS NA GALIT SA PAULINE MASS AT SA SANTO PAPA. KAYO ANG MAGKA URI. PAREHO KAYONG MGA REBELDE AT ANTI-POPES. MGA KAMPON NG INYONG AMANG DIABLO = LEFEBVRE = LUTHER = LUCIFER!
[wag mag deny napost yan sa itaas.]
HINDI ANG MGA KABABAWAN MO ANG KATATAKUTAN KO.
"OO. KAYA NGA NANG DUMATING ANG VATICAN II ANG HALOS LAHAT NG OBISPO NA SIYANG REPRESENTATATIVES NG CATHOLIC FAITHFUL FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AY PUMAYAG SA LITURGICAL RENEWAL. KAYA NGA LAHAT NG OBISPO LIBAN SA SIRA ULO MONG LEFEBVRE AY SUMANG-AYON LATER ON SA PAULINE MASS."
ReplyDeleteSigurado ka dito Fr. Abe? Nabasa mo ba yung The Rhine Flows into the Tiber? Sigurado na naiskandalo ang mga Obispo kaya nila binago ang Liturhiya? Sige nga patunayan mo na si Archbishop Lefebvre lang ang tumutol dito. Alam mo ang dahilan ng mga Obispo noon ay Obedience. Isang bagay na wala ang mga Obispo ngayon sa pagtutol nila sa Summorum Pontificum at Universae Ecclesiae.
Kung erehe si Archbishop Lefebvre parang ikaw lang ang nagsabi. Maari ka bang magpakita ng isang dokumento mula sa isang opisyal ng Santa Sede na nagsasabi na erehe si Archbishop Lefebvre o katulad nya si Satanas o Lucifer?
"OO. KAYA NGA NANG DUMATING ANG VATICAN II ANG HALOS LAHAT NG OBISPO NA SIYANG REPRESENTATATIVES NG CATHOLIC FAITHFUL FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AY PUMAYAG SA LITURGICAL RENEWAL. KAYA NGA LAHAT NG OBISPO LIBAN SA SIRA ULO MONG LEFEBVRE AY SUMANG-AYON LATER ON SA PAULINE MASS."
ReplyDelete[Sigurado ka dito Fr. Abe? Nabasa mo ba yung The Rhine Flows into the Tiber? Sigurado na naiskandalo ang mga Obispo kaya nila binago ang Liturhiya?]
NABASA KO ANG AKLAT NA IYAN AT MAY KOPYA AKO NIYAN. PINAPAKITA SA AKLAT THAT TEH GREAT MAJORITY OF THE BISHOPS ASKED FOR REFORMS ESPECIALLY THE BISHOPS FROM ASIA AND AFRICA. NATALO SA DEBATE ANG MGA CONSERVATIVES AT NATALO RIN SILA SA BOTOHAN. KUNG TUMUTUTOL KA E DI ILABAS MO ANG EVIDENCIA MO?
SI LEFEBVRE AY ISANG DUWAG. NI HINDI MAN LAMANG UMIMIK DURING THE COUNCIL DEBATES AT NAKATAHIMIK LAMANG. PERO SA LABAS NG COUNCIL AT PAGKATAPOS KUNWARI MATAPANG ANG DUWAG MONG LIDER... TRAIDOR PA DAHIL PINIRMAHAN NIYA ANG MGA DOCUMENTS NG COUNCIL.
[Sige nga patunayan mo na si Archbishop Lefebvre lang ang tumutol dito.]
HA HA HA... MALALA ANG SIRA NG ISANG ITO. HA HA HA... UULITIN KO ANG SINULAT KO:
"AYA NGA NANG DUMATING ANG VATICAN II ANG HALOS LAHAT NG OBISPO NA SIYANG REPRESENTATATIVES NG CATHOLIC FAITHFUL FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AY PUMAYAG SA LITURGICAL RENEWAL. KAYA NGA LAHAT NG OBISPO LIBAN SA SIRA ULO MONG LEFEBVRE AY SUMANG-AYON LATER ON SA PAULINE MASS.
KAHIT ANG LIDER NG TRADITIONAL FACTION NA SI CARDINAL OTTAVIANI NAMATAY NG TAPAT SA SANTO PAPA AT NAGMISA NG PAULINE MASS. GAYON DIN SI SIS. LUCIA NG FATIMA AT SI MOTHER TERESA NG CALCUTTA."
KUNG HINDI BA NAMAN BALIW ANG SSPX DOG NA ITO ANG LINAW LINAW NA SINABI KO NA 'HALOS LAHAT NG OBISPO'... AND LATER ON KAHIT NA YUNG IBA PANG OPPOSITORS NA SINA CARDINAL OTTAVIANI AY NANATILING TAPAT SA SANTO PAPA. HINDI KAYAGA NI LEFEBVRE NA NAGING TRAIDOR.
[Alam mo ang dahilan ng mga Obispo noon ay Obedience. Isang bagay na wala ang mga Obispo ngayon sa pagtutol nila sa Summorum Pontificum at Universae Ecclesiae.]
ANG MGA OBISPO NGAYON AY OBEDIENT, ANG SSPX ANIMALS ANG HINDI OBEDIENT.
ANG MGA OBISPO NGAYON AY HINDI BASTA BASTA NAGPAPATUPAD NG SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM AT UNIVERSAE ECCLESIAE DAHIL ALAM NILA NA GAGAMITIN ITO NG MGA SSPX TRAITORS PARA SA KANILANG DISOBEDIENCE TO THE POPE. ANG SSPX AY PARANG LINTA NA KUMAKAPIT SA SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM HINDI UPANG SUMUNOD KUNDI UPANG MANLOKO NG MGA MANANAMPALATAYA TULAD NG MGA BWITRE AT MGA LOBO. MGA TULISAN.
[Kung erehe si Archbishop Lefebvre parang ikaw lang ang nagsabi. Maari ka bang magpakita ng isang dokumento mula sa isang opisyal ng Santa Sede na nagsasabi na erehe si Archbishop Lefebvre o katulad nya si Satanas o Lucifer?]
MAS MALALA PA SA EREHE SI LEFEBVRE, YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEADER. SIYA AY NAMATAY NA EXCOMMUNICATED. SIYA AY ASONG SINIPA PALABAS NG BAHAY NG DIOS. NAMATAY SIYA SA LABAS NG SANTA IGLESIA WHERE THERE IS NO SALVATION.
[Asan na po ung post ko about challenging you? madaya ka talaga, namimili ka ng comments na ipopost mo..ung kaya mo lang sagutin pinopost mo, mapanlinlang ka...]
ReplyDeleteSINO KA? ANG KAPAL NG MUKA MONG MANG CHALLENGE HABANG NAGTATAGO KA. REVEAL YOUR TRUE IDENTITY AND THEN I WILL CONSIDER YOUR CHALLENGE.
Good evening Father,
ReplyDeleteMagtanong lang Father,Sa Latin Mass daw mayroon daw Prayer of ST.Gabril ngunit pagdating sa Novus Ordo tinangal daw ito?totoo po ba ito?Ano nman itong Prayer of St.Gabril?
DONATO PARAS POTONG JR...
DEAR DONATO,
ReplyDeleteHINDI PRAYER OF ST. GABRIEL KUNDI PRAYER TO ST. MICHAEL.
KAYA INALIS KASI HINDI NAMAN TALAGA PART NG MISA IYON. HINDI NAMAN DOGMA NG SIMBAHAN NA I-RECITE YON SA LAHAT NG MISA. ONE POPE WISHED THAT IT BE RECITED 'AFTER' THE MASS SO IT CAN BE REMOVED ALSO.
HINDI OBLIGASYON NG SANTA IGLESIA NA IPA-RECITE ANG DEVOTINAL PRAYER NA IYON EVERY MASS. YUNG MGA MAY GUSTON I RECITE IYON E DI DASALIN NILA NG 100O TIMES AFTER THE MASS.
Eto ang mga pangalan ng mga protestanteng knunsulta ni Bugnini sa pag-gawa na Novus Ordo: Dr. George, Canon Jasper, Dr. Shephard, Dr. Konneth, Dr. Smith and Brother Max Thurian. Sila ay kinatawan ng mga sumusunod na protestanteng organisasyon: The World Council of Church, the Church of England, the Lutheran Church, and the Protestant Community of Taize.
ReplyDeleteThis statement is historically inaccurate... First, this statement is misleading because it presents that Annibale Bugnini led or "monopolyze" the action of the Consilium ad Exsequendam Constitutionem de Sacra Liturgia (or simply called the "Consilium" the body created By Paul VI incharge of the reform of the liturgy) – the although annibale bugnini was one of peritus of the Consilium serving as the secretary, It must be noted that it was GIACOMO CARDINAL LERCARO of Bolognia who sat its presidency. Here is The first list of periti, with the distribution of the work, was as follows: Father Cipriano Vagaggini, O.S.B., and Father Frederick McManus (sacraments); Monsignor Johannes Wagner (art and music); Canon Aimé-Georges Martimort (general principles); Father Josef Andreas Jungmann, S.J. (Mass); Father Herman Schmidt, S.J. (Divine Office); Father Ansgar Dirks, O.P. (liturgical year and sacred furnishings); Monsignor Emmanuel Bonet (liturgical law); Father Annibale Bugnini, C.M. (secretary). Paul VI himself set the objective of the council and he was constantly informed of the progress of the Consilium.
Source: http://www.litpress.org/excerpts/9780814630358.pdf
Second, those protestant observers were not consulted for the reason they are observers. In his book :Reform of the Liturgy", Annibale Bugnini says that those observers were not really part of the original plan, until Paul VI insisted that the protestants observers were to be there for ecumenical relations.
[i asked one brother (SEMINARIAN) kung bakt gnun, what he told me is that it is because it is more sacred to celebrate the mass in the chosen language of the church.]
ReplyDeleteLATIN IS THE CHOSEN LANGUAGE OF THE ROMAN CHURCH, BUT GREEK WAS ALSO THE CHOSEN LANGUAGE OF THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH TOGETHER WITH LATIN, COPTIC, SYRIAC, ETC. AND NOW THE VERNACULAR LANGUAGES ARE ALSO CHOSEN LANGUAGES OF THE CHURCH.
LATIN IS A CHOSEN LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH BUT "NOT THE ONLY CHOSEN LANGUAGE" OF THE CHURCH. HEBREW AND GREEK ARE ALSO CHOSEN LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH.
[at para din daw maiwasan ang ibang abuses.]
THERE ARE ALSO ABUSES IN LATIN MASS AND THERE ARE ALSO HERESIES COMING OUT OF THOSE WHO CELEBRATE IT. DO YOU THINK THAT FR. MARTIN LUTHER WAS CELEBRATING THE MASS IN ENGLISH BEFORE HE BECAME A HERETIC? NO, HE WAS CELEBRATING IN LATIN. HE HE HE...
[it is also better din daw po na mag receive kami ng communion by tounge.]
I AGREE. BUT IT IS NOT WRONG OR EVIL TO RECEIVE COMMUNION BY THE HAND. IT WAS ALSO APPROVED BY THE CHURCH.
[and napansin ko lang na parang napaka sacred din nung mass pag in latin form din.]
THAT IS YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE. THE GREAT MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE LOVE THE VERNACULAR MASS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO ABANDON IT TO RETURN TO THE OLD FORM. THAT IS WHY, NOT EVEN 1% OF THE CATHOLIC POPULATION JOINED THE REBELLION OF LEFEBVRE, THAT WACKY OLD FOOL.
[tapos naka gloves din po ung mga servers nila....]
THEIR INTENTIONS ARE GOOD AND PRAISEWORTHY BUT IN THE OLD TLM IT WAS THE POPE WHO WEARS GLOVES.
[and sila lang po ung nakita kong hindi tumatalikod kapag naka exposed ang sacred host. na parang hndi ko naman nakikita sa ibang mga pari sa parish namin...]
WELL, IF YOU ARE LEAVING THE ALTAR GOING TO THE MAIN DOOR YOU CANNOT HELP BUT PUT YOUR BACK IN FRONT OF THE ALTAR. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. THE LORD IS NOT CLOSE-MINDED.
[i just want to share this one.]
THANK YOU.
[naisip ko lang na maganda din ung TLM mass.]
OF COURSE, MAGANDA ANG TLM MASS. SUBALIT MALI NA IPAGPILITAN NG MGA REBELDING SSPX NA ITO LANG ANG TUNAY NA MISA NG SANTA IGLESIA. IYON AY TALIWAS SA TRADITION AT ARAL NG SANTA IGLESIA.