BLAMING THE CHURCH FOR THE FAILURE OF MARRIAGE OF AN SSPX

Jesus and the Woman Caught in Adultery by Poussin 1653, Louvre Mauseum in France

 

Anonymous said... 

 

With regards to your final statement respecting "anonymous" opinion regarding annulments:

I have asked the Catholic Church in America and in Rome(for over 20 years), to act on behalf of our valid, sacramental marriage, which the Roman Rota could find no evidence to nullify but rather, this reprobate Pope will do nothing, when, in fact, if he so desired, he could use Papal authority to summon both my wife and her longtime lover to Rome to answer for their adultery, repent or face excommunication. He also could advise the bishop in authority in the US, that this was his EXPRESS WILL to attempt to bring reconciliation or to make conditions such, via formal excommunication, that the unrepentant adulterers would reconsider their whoring!

He does nothing. Nor does my bishop. Nor does their Bishop. Nor will their priest.

Support for open adultery by catholic priests and bishops is everywhere in America. He who says this is not so is a DAMNED LIAR.

If you can find a bishop from the Philippines with the integrity and the balls under his cassock to DEMAND Papal intervention in this case, on behalf of our valid marriage, or who will resign his see on the spot should this weak Pope refuse to be the pastor he is SUPPOSED to be, I will meet him in Rome for our combined audience!

There is no such bishop willing to defend a sacrament, with his see; not one with any large See or widespread reputation for orthodoxy, anyway. I know there are NONE who are good bishops in America. Perhaps the Church in the Pilippines has some decent bishops?

I do not think you really understand how lousy our priests and bishops are respecting marriage. This is certainly true for the two most recent failures called Popes and is true in America.

Karl 

November 29, 2011 1:49 AM  

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[With regards to your final statement respecting "anonymous" opinion regarding annulments:]

YES, MR. KARL THE REPROBATE,

[I have asked the Catholic Church in America and in Rome(for over 20 years), to act on behalf of our valid, sacramental marriage,]

OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE LYING HERE. MATTERS CONCERNING MARRIAGE MUST BE BROUGHT TO THE OFFICE OF THE BISHOP IN YOUR DIOCESE AND NOT 'THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN AMERICA AND IN ROME' WHICH IS VERY VAGUE. BE REAL MAN AND STOP DAYDREAMING.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE, CASES THAT ARE NOT YET SETTLED IN THE DIOCESAN LEVEL CANNOT JUST BE PRESENTED IMMEDIATELY TO THE HOLY SEE IN THE VATICAN. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS FORUM SHOPPING. THAT IS A MISTAKE ON YOUR PART.

[which the Roman Rota could find no evidence to nullify but rather,]

SO, YOUR MARRIAGE IS THEN PRESERVED INTACT BECAUSE THE ROMAN ROTA COULD FIND NO EVIDENCE TO NULLIFY IT. YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT THE ROMAN ROTA DEFENDED THE SANCTITY AND INTEGRITY OF YOUR MARRIAGE. SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?

[this reprobate Pope will do nothing,]

YOU ARE A FOOL. THE POPE IS NOT A REPROBATE, YOU ARE.

IF YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT YOU KNOW THAT THE ROMAN ROTA DECIDES CASES AS THE ARM OF THE POPE. IT HAS A DELEGATED AUTHORITY FROM THE HOLY FATHER AND THE POPE BEING FAITHFUL TO THE COMMAND OF THE LORD THAT "THOSE WHOM GOD HAD UNITED LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER" CONFIRMED THE VALIDITY OF YOUR MARRIAGE.

[when, in fact, if he so desired, he could use Papal authority to summon both my wife and her longtime lover to Rome to answer for their adultery, repent or face excommunication.]

IDIOT. THE POPE IS NOT STUPID LIKE YOU. IF YOU ARE ANGRY WITH YOUR WIFE BECAUSE OF HER ADULTERY DO NOT USE THE POPE TO EXACT YOUR REVENGE.

IF YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE POPE IS NOT AWARE OF THE ADULTERY OF YOUR WIFE. IF YOU ARE TRULY CONVINCED THAT SHE WAS DOING SO THEN FILE A CASE AGAINST HER IN COURT FOR VIOLATING HER SWORN OATH TO BE FAITHFUL TO YOU. DON'T DEMAND FROM THE POPE ACTIONS THAT BELONGS TO YOU.

YOU ARE PATHETIC. YOUR WIFE ABANDONED YOU FOR HER LOVER AND YOU WANT OTHERS TO FIGHT FOR YOU. YOU ARE A COWARD AND YOU WANT THE POPE TO SERVE AS YOUR PUPPET TO HIDE YOUR COWARDICE.

[He also could advise the bishop in authority in the US, that this was his EXPRESS WILL to attempt to bring reconciliation or to make conditions such, via formal excommunication, that the unrepentant adulterers would reconsider their whoring!]

HA HA HA... YOU ARE TRULY AN IDIOT. YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT THE LORD JESUS DIDN'T CAST THE FIRST STONE ON THE WOMAN CAUGHT WITH ADULTERY. YOU WANT THE POPE TO CAST THE FIRST STONE ON HER BECAUSE YOU ARE A COWARD TO DO SO. THE POPE IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF YOUR CASE. THAT JOB BELONGS TO THE LOCAL BISHOP AND HIS COMMISSION. AND THEIR DUTY IS NOT TO HURL EXCOMMUNICATIONS OUTRIGHT BECAUSE IT HAS NOT TRIED YOUR WIFE AND HAVE PROVEN HER ADULTERY. IF SHE IS COMMITTING ADULTERY THEN THE CHURCH IS CLEAR AND CATEGORICAL THAT ADULTERY IS A SIN AND AN ABOMINABLE ACT AGAINST THE LORD AND THE CHURCH. BUT LEGAL AND MORAL AND EVEN FINANCIAL DAMAGES AGAINST YOUR WIFE AND HER LOVER MUST COME FROM YOU. IT IS YOU WHO MUST FILE A CASE AGAINST THEM IN COURT. DO NOT DEMAND FROM THE POPE YOUR OWN DUTY. END YOUR STUPIDITY AND COWARDICE. 

 

[He does nothing. Nor does my bishop. Nor does their Bishop. Nor will their priest.]

THEY DID. THEY CONDEMN ADULTERY. BUT THE PUNISHMENT AGAINST YOUR WIFE MUST COME FROM YOU AND NOT FROM US. IF YOU ARE COWARDLY IN FILING LEGAL DAMAGES HOW MUCH MORE THE CHURCH AUTHORITY WHO HAS NO LEGAL POWER OVER THEM.

HOW CAN WE BELIEVE THAT YOUR WIFE TRULY COMMITTED ADULTERY? WE CANNOT JUST RELY ON YOUR CLAIMS. YOU MUST PROVE IT FIRST.

[Support for open adultery by catholic priests and bishops is everywhere in America.]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THE SECULARIST SOCIETY IS SO ANGRY AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR OUR MORAL TEACHING. AND IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT AND BLIND YOU KNOW THAT THE 6TH COMMANDMENT OF GOD IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS: "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY". SORRY FOR YOU, YOUR CLAIM IS PATHETIC AND IDIOTIC.

[He who says this is not so is a DAMNED LIAR.]

O NO, NO, NO... THE COMMANDMENT AND TEACHING OF THE CHURCH IS VERY CLEAR AND THEY ARE BEING MEMORIZED BY CATHOLIC CHILDREN FROM CHILDHOOD BOTH AT HOME AND AT SCHOOL AT THE CHURCH. ONLY FOOLS LIKE YOU DENY THE CATHOLIC OPPOSITION TO ADULTERY. YOU ARE NOT JUST A LIAR BUT A PATHETIC FOOL.

[If you can find a bishop from the Philippines with the integrity and the balls under his cassock to DEMAND Papal intervention in this case,]

IDIOT. YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU FILED YOUR CASE IN AMERICA THEN IN ROME AND NOW YOU WANT IT TO BE SETTLED BY A PHILIPPINE BISHOP. HA HA HA... YOU ARE MAKING ME LAUGH. OBVIOUSLY YOUR CLAIM IS JUST A FABLE. SORRY FOR YOU. YOUR LIE HAS BEEN REVEALED.

OUR CATHOLIC BISHOPS HAVE BALLS AND IT IS YOU WHO DO NOT HAVE THEM. THAT IS THE REASON WHY YOUR WIFE ABANDONED YOU FOR ANOTHER MAN BECAUSE OF THAT FACT: THAT YOU DON'T HAVE BALLS.

OUR BISHOPS HAVE THE BALLS TO TELL YOU THAT YOUR MARRIAGE IS VALID AND NO REASON TO NULLIFY IT ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN. SO, THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.

[on behalf of our valid marriage, or who will resign his see on the spot should this weak Pope refuse to be the pastor he is SUPPOSED to be, I will meet him in Rome for our combined audience!]

HA HA HA... PATHETIC FOOL. IT IS NO WONDER THAT YOUR WIFE HAS ABANDONED YOU. NOW WE KNOW WHY. YOU ARE INSANE, COWARDLY AND PATHETIC.

[There is no such bishop willing to defend a sacrament, with his see; not one with any large See or widespread reputation for orthodoxy, anyway.]

OUR BISHOPS HAVE DEFENDED AND ARE DEFENDING THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE. WE DECLARED IT AS SINFUL AND FOR SURE YOUR WIFE AND HER LOVER KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMMITTING SIN. BUT TO DEMAND FROM US THE DUTIES OF THE COURT FOR THE CONDEMNATION OF YOUR WIFE AND HER LOVER IS FOOLISHNESS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT OUR DUTY. WE ARE NOT THE TRIAL COURT. NOT EVEN ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS ABLE TO FORCE HEROD AND HERODIAS TO STOP THEIR ADULTERY. STOP YOUR HALLUCINATIONS.

[I know there are NONE who are good bishops in America. Perhaps the Church in the Pilippines has some decent bishops?]

OUR BISHOPS ARE DECENT. IT IS YOU WHO IS NOT A DECENT HUSBAND FOR FAILING TO KEEP YOUR WIFE AND FOR YOUR STUPID INTERPRETATION OF THE ROLE OF THE CHURCH.

[I do not think you really understand how lousy our priests and bishops are respecting marriage. This is certainly true for the two most recent failures called Popes and is true in America.]

WE ARE NOT LOUSY. YOU ARE. YOU ARE A LOUSY HUSBAND AND YOU ARE A LOUSY CATHOLIC. POOR YOU. BEING THE HEAD OF YOUR FAMILY YOU HAVE SQUANDERED YOUR OWN HOME AND LET YOUR BED BE STAINED BY THE INFIDELITY OF YOUR WIFE. DON'T BLAME US YOUR OWN FAULTS.

[Karl]

FR. ABE, CRS 

November 29, 2011 8:35 AM

Anonymous said... 

 

One can respect strength of commitment and defense of one's beliefs but yours is quite over the top.


Karl

November 29, 2011 9:03 AM  

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[One can respect strength of commitment and defense of one's beliefs but yours is quite over the top.]

WELL, CALLING OUR POPE A REPROBATE AND OUR BISHOPS WITHOUT BALLS ARE BELOW THE TOP FOR YOU, IS THAT RIGHT KARL?

AFTER YOU HAVE INSULTED US WITH YOUR VENOMOUS ATTACKS THEN WE ARE OVER THE TOP IF WE RESPOND IN KIND. HOW NICE OF YOU.

IF YOU THINK AN ATTACK AGAINST THE POPE AND OUR BISHOPS IS JUST A WALK IN THE PARK SORRY FOR YOU. WE ALSO KNOW HOW TO RESPOND IN KIND. 

November 29, 2011 9:11 AM