IN WHAT MANNER CAN THE SOUL EXPERIENCE PAIN AND SUFFERING?

The Eternal Judgment

 

 

Anonymous said... 

 

father, magandang araw sa iyo. nais ko lang din po linawin. ako po ay dating seminarista. ang fusion po ng philosophy at mga doctrina ng simbahan lead me to a simple confusion.
sinabi po sa philosophy na ang person is composed of a material and spiritual- the body and the soul. ngayun, itong material ang nakakaramdam ng sakit, saya, sarap, etc...while on earth.
tapos sa simbahan, sinabi na kapag ang tao'y namatay, hihiwalay ang kaluluwa sa katawan. kung ang tao na yon ay bad, mag suffer ang kaluluwa nya sa empierno.
ngayun, ang tanong ko po, "paano natin masasabi na ang pagkakapunta sa empierno ay parusa na napakasakit kung ang napupunta dun ay ang kaluluwa na hindi naman nakakaramdam?" 

November 18, 2011 3:00 PM  

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[father, magandang araw sa iyo. nais ko lang din po linawin. ako po ay dating seminarista.]

OK BROD. HOPE I CAN HELP YOU.

[ang fusion po ng philosophy at mga doctrina ng simbahan lead me to a simple confusion.]

WE DO NOT REFER TO THE RELATION OF THE FAITH WITH PHILOSOPHY AS FUSION BUT THE UNITY OF FAITH AND REASON, OF THEOLOGY AND PHILOSOPHY.

[sinabi po sa philosophy na ang person is composed of a material and spiritual- the body and the soul.]

HINDI LANG PHILOSOPHY BUT ALSO THEOLOGY. THE DIVINE REVELATION GIVEN IN THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF THE HUMAN PERSON AS COMPOSED OF BODY AND SOUL ALSO.

[ngayun, itong material ang nakakaramdam ng sakit, saya, sarap, etc...while on earth.]

THIS IS A PARTIAL TRUTH. THIS IS ONLY ONE ASPECT OF REALITY. THE REAL TEACHING OF THE CHURCH IS THAT WHEN THE BODY IS HURT THE SOUL ALSO SUFFERS WITH IT BECAUSE THE SOUL IS UNITED WITH THE BODY. THUS, WE DO NOT SPEAK OF THE SUFFERING BODY ALONE BUT OF THE SUFFERING PERSON. THE PAIN IS INFLICTED ON THE BODY BUT IT IS FELT EVEN BY THE SOUL. THAT IS WHY IF YOUR FINGER IS PRICKED WITH A NEEDLE IT IS YOUR ENTIRE BODY AND SOUL THAT SUFFERS.

THE SOUL IS A SPIRIT. ALONE IT CANNOT BE HURT. BUT THE SOUL WE HAVE IS ESSENTIALLY UNITED WITH OUR BODY AND THEREFORE IT CAN EXPERIENCE PAIN THROUGH THE BODY AND IT HAS.

HOW COME THIS IS NOT ANSWERED BY YOUR PHILOSOPHY PROFESSORS IN THE SEMINARY?

[tapos sa simbahan, sinabi na kapag ang tao'y namatay, hihiwalay ang kaluluwa sa katawan.]

YES, BECAUSE THE SOUL IS A SPIRIT AND THEREFORE EVEN THOUGH THE BODY DIES AND GOES TO CORRUPTION THE SOUL CAN SURVIVE APART FROM THE BODY.

[kung ang tao na yon ay bad, mag suffer ang kaluluwa nya sa empierno.]

YES. THAT IS THE ETERNAL JUDGMENT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO REJECT THE LOVE AND GRACE OF GOD ULTIMATELY.

[ngayun, ang tanong ko po, "paano natin masasabi na ang pagkakapunta sa empierno ay parusa na napakasakit kung ang napupunta dun ay ang kaluluwa na hindi naman nakakaramdam?"]

HA HA HA... THIS IS SIMPLE.

FIRST, BEAR IN MIND THAT THE SUFFERING IN THE AFTER LIFE IS PRIMARILY A SPIRITUAL PUNISHMENT. SO BEING A SPIRITUAL PUNISHMENT THE SOUL SUFFERS NOT IN A CORPOREAL MANNER BUT IN SPIRITUAL MANNER.

SECOND, YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN TO CONSIDER THE DOGMA OF THE RESURRECTION OF THE BODY. AS GOD CREATED US BODY AND SOUL SO IF WE LIVED A LIFE OF HOLINESS WITH OUR BODY AND SOUL WE SHALL BE SAVED BODY AND SOUL ALSO. THE LORD SHALL GIVE US A GLORIFIED BODY SIMILAR TO HIS OWN BODY. BUT FOR THOSE WHO WERE EVIL AND SINNED THROUGH THEIR BODY AND SOUL THEY SHALL ALSO BE DAMNED WITH BODY AND SOUL.

THIRD, YOU'VE FAILED TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE HUMAN SOUL WAS CREATED BY GOD SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE HUMAN BODY AS STATED IN GEN 2:7. GOD CREATED US WITH BODY AND SOUL AT ONCE. SO, OUR SOUL IS ESSENTIALLY UNITED WITH THE BODY. FOR THAT REASON EVEN IF THE SOUL HAS BEEN SEPARATED WITH THE BODY IT IS STILL ESSENTIALLY AND VIRTUALLY CAPABLE OF CORPOREALITY. THUS, IT HAS SOME ABILITIES THAT ARE CORPOREAL IN NATURE. 

November 18, 2011 9:11 PM