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PART III
The Supplying of Jurisdiction in Times of Crisis
In the present situation of crisis, it is obvious that your priests cannot receive from their superiors in the church, that is to say from the diocesan bishops and from the Pope, a flock, because that flock is refused to them. This authority over a flock must, therefore, be given to them in another manner: that is, by substitute or supplied jurisdiction.
In this case it is the Church herself which gives to priests a power as the power of the pastor over his flock. Normally the power of Holy Orders, brings with it the foundation or basis of a power to organize the Church in a hierarchy. Thus the priest’s or the bishop’s power of Holy Orders normally brings with it the power of jurisdiction. It is normal for a bishop or a priest to have a particular flock over which he exercises his power of Holy Orders. But in the present situation we have to deal with the abnormal situation where the power of Holy Orders is unjustly deprived of the power of jurisdiction. It is in this case that the Church mercifully supplies jurisdiction in favor of you, the faithful, giving the jurisdiction your priests would otherwise not have.
This is therefore an extraordinary power, which is an exceptional case. In exceptional situations there are exceptional powers.
The General Extent of Supplied Jurisdiction
It is not only present for confessions, but also for the entire priestly ministry. There is no reason to limit it to confessions alone.
And, you are indeed aware that jurisdiction is sometimes necessary for a priest to validly administer the Sacraments. This is the case, first of all, for Confession. It is equally the case for a priest assisting at Marriage. If he does not have jurisdiction the marriage is null and void. Although the two spouses are the ministers of the Sacrament, the Church has added a supplementary condition for validity, that is to say that the matrimonial consent be exchanged before the official witness of the Church, which is normally the parish priest. It is quite obvious that our priests do not have this power in an ordinary way. They can only receive it in an extraordinary way by the Church’s supplying of jurisdiction. In fact we here depend on OC Canon 1098 § 1, which dispenses from the necessity of the presence of a priest having jurisdiction for the marriage to be valid when it is foreseen that such a priest cannot be found.
Normally jurisdiction is necessary for licitness, that is to say, in order that the act of the priest be licit, or, permissible. For example, to preach a priest must have a mandate, or, for a bishop to confirm in another diocese than his own, he must have a mandate from the diocesan bishop. In order to ordain priests a bishop must normally have jurisdiction and this is, of course, all the more so for the consecration of other bishops. For an episcopal consecration he must have a Pontifical mandate.
This same principle is supplied throughout. In an exceptional situation the Church supplies for this absence of jurisdiction on the part of the priest or even the bishop.
And the more serious the crisis is, the more necessary it will be to fall back on this supplying of the Church on a higher level. This is what happened on June 30, 1988, when Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated four bishops with Bishop de Castro Mayer as co-consecrator.
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[PART III
The Supplying of Jurisdiction in Times of Crisis]
WHERE IS IT DECLARED IN THE SACRED TRADITION OR THE HOLY BIBLE THAT IN TIME OF CRISES THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS CAN BE BYPASSED?
[In the present situation of crisis, it is obvious that your priests cannot receive from their superiors in the church, that is to say from the diocesan bishops and from the Pope, a flock, because that flock is refused to them.]
THE POPE AND THE DIOCESAN BISHOP DID NOT REFUSE TO THE SSPX THE FLOCK. THEY SIMPLY PROTECTED THE FLOCK FROM THE EVIL OF SSPX. BESIDES THOSE FLOCK ARE ENTRUSTED BY THE LORD TO ST. PETER AND TO HIS SUCCESSORS AND NOT TO LEFEBVRE YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL. THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS ARE THE TRUE SHEPHERDS OF THE FLOCK AND THE SSPX ARE WOLVES TRYING TO LURE THEM INTO THEIR REBELLION.
[This authority over a flock must, therefore, be given to them in another manner: that is, by substitute or supplied jurisdiction.]
HA HA HA... STUPID. THE POPE IS THE ONE WHO HAS AUTHORITY OVER THAT FLOCK. YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT OF JURISDICTION BECAUSE YOU ARE REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE UNIVERSAL SHEPHERD.
BY REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE THE SSPX LOST ANY RIGHT OF JURISDICTION WHETHER SUPPLIED JURISDICTION OR DELUSIONAL JURISDICTION. HE HE HE...
[In this case it is the Church herself which gives to priests a power as the power of the pastor over his flock.]
THIS IS DEMONIC. THE ONE THAT ACTS AND DECIDES FOR THE CHURCH IS THE POPE. SO, WHAT CHURCH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? TARSIER MUST BE REFERRING TO THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. HA HA HA...
[Normally the power of Holy Orders, brings with it the foundation or basis of a power to organize the Church in a hierarchy.]
THE ONE WHO ESTABLISHED THE HIERARCHY IS JESUS AND HE PUT PETER ON THE TOP NOT LEFEBVRE. SORRY FOR YOU. AND VATICAN I STATES THAT THE CHURCH MUST BE GOVERNED BY THE POPE AS WILLED BY THE LORD JESUS. SO SORRY FOR YOU. HE HE HE...
[Thus the priest’s or the bishop’s power of Holy Orders normally brings with it the power of jurisdiction. It is normal for a bishop or a priest to have a particular flock over which he exercises his power of Holy Orders. But in the present situation we have to deal with the abnormal situation where the power of Holy Orders is unjustly deprived of the power of jurisdiction.]
THE SSPX CREATED ITS OWN ABNORMAL SITUATION. IT IS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AN ABNORMAL SOCIETY FOUNDED BY A WACKY OLD FOOL, A SENILE ARCHBISHOP WHO WAS COWARDLY SILENT DURING VATICAN II AND SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS YET TURNED TRAITOR LATER.
THE SSPX IS NOT DEPRIVED OF JURISDICTION. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT FOR SUCH JURISDICTION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN COMMUNION WITH THE UNIVERSAL SHEPHERD THE POPE.
[It is in this case that the Church mercifully supplies jurisdiction in favor of you, the faithful, giving the jurisdiction your priests would otherwise not have.]
IT IS SATAN THAT SUPPLIES YOU WITH FAKE JURISDICTION BECAUSE ALL JURISDICTION OF THE CHURCH IS GOVERNED BY THE SUCCESSOR OF PETER. THE CHURCH IS FOUNDED ON PETER AND SO YOUR POPELESS SOCIETY IS DEMONIC IN ORIGIN.
[This is therefore an extraordinary power, which is an exceptional case. In exceptional situations there are exceptional powers.]
ALL AUTHORITY IN THE CHURCH HAS BEEN ENTRUSTED TO ST. PETER. WHETHER IT IS EXCEPTIONAL OR ORDINARY POWER IT MUST BE GIVEN BY THE POPE. THE EXCEPTIONAL POWER OF THE SSPX IS NOT FROM POPE AND THEREFORE NOT FROM CHRIST. WHERE DID IT COME FROM THEN? FROM LUCIFER - THE CHIEF REBEL IDOLIZED BY LEFEBVRE.
- [The General Extent of Supplied Jurisdiction]
ALL JURISDICTION IN THE CHURCH MUST BE UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE WHOSE POWER IS SUPREME AND ABSOLUTE AS THE VICAR OF CHRIST. WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE AUTHORITY OF YOUR TREACHEROUS BISHOPS FROM LEFEBVRE TO FELLAY.
[It is not only present for confessions, but also for the entire priestly ministry. There is no reason to limit it to confessions alone.]
YOU ARE FREE TO HALLUCINATE AND IMPOSE YOUR DELUSIONS ON YOUR POPELESS SOCIETY.
[And, you are indeed aware that jurisdiction is sometimes necessary for a priest to validly administer the Sacraments. This is the case, first of all, for Confession. It is equally the case for a priest assisting at Marriage.]
AUTHORIZATION FROM THE BISHOP AND COMMUNION WITH THE POPE IS NECESSARY.
[If he does not have jurisdiction the marriage is null and void. Although the two spouses are the ministers of the Sacrament, the Church has added a supplementary condition for validity, that is to say that the matrimonial consent be exchanged before the official witness of the Church, which is normally the parish priest.]
YEAH... THAT IS THE REASON WHY YOUR EFFORT TO OFFER AN ALIBI TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE BISHOP AND THE POPE IS FOOLISH AND VERY DANGEROUS IN THE SPIRITUAL LIFE OF THE CHURCH.
[It is quite obvious that our priests do not have this power in an ordinary way. They can only receive it in an extraordinary way by the Church’s supplying of jurisdiction.]
IDIOT. WHETHER IN ORDINARY OR EXTRAORDINARY WAY IT IS STILL THE POPE AND THE BISHOP WHO WILL GIVE THOSE POWER. WITHOUT THE POPE AND THE BISHOP THERE IS NO POWER THAT YOU CAN EXERCISE IN THE CHURCH.
[In fact we here depend on OC Canon 1098 § 1, which dispenses from the necessity of the presence of a priest having jurisdiction for the marriage to be valid when it is foreseen that such a priest cannot be found.]
HA HA HA... ANOTHER IDIOTIC REASONING BECAUSE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS OF COURSE CAN BE FOUND NOW A DAYS. SECOND, CANON 1098 DOES NOT SAY THAT THE SSPX CAN RECEIVE JURISDICTION IN AN EXTRAORDINARY MANNER APART FROM THE BISHOP AND THE POPE. THIS TARSIER IS A LIAR AND DECEIVER.
[Normally jurisdiction is necessary for licitness, that is to say, in order that the act of the priest be licit, or, permissible.]
NORMALLY YES. UNFORTUNATELY THE SSPX IS ABNORMAL. THE ABNORMALITY IS NOT IN THE CHURCH BUT IN THE SSPX.
[For example, to preach a priest must have a mandate, or, for a bishop to confirm in another diocese than his own, he must have a mandate from the diocesan bishop. In order to ordain priests a bishop must normally have jurisdiction and this is, of course, all the more so for the consecration of other bishops. For an episcopal consecration he must have a Pontifical mandate.]
OF COURSE. WITHOUT A MANDATE THE ONE WHO WILL CONSECRATE BISHOP SHALL INCUR EXCOMMUNICATION AUTOMATICALLLY LIKE YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE WHO DIED OUTSIDE THE CHURCH WHERE THERE IS NO SALVATION.
[This same principle is supplied throughout. In an exceptional situation the Church supplies for this absence of jurisdiction on the part of the priest or even the bishop.]
THE ONE WHO WILL SUPPLY DURING EXCEPTIONAL SITUATION IS STILL THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS. YOU CAN ONLY ESCAPE THE POPE AND THE BISHOP IF YOU WILL GO TO THE PROTESTANT CHURCH.
[And the more serious the crisis is, the more necessary it will be to fall back on this supplying of the Church on a higher level.]
THIS IS DEMONIC. THE MORE SERIOUS THE CRISIS IS THE MORE THE FAITHFUL MUST CLING TO THE VICAR OD CHRIST ON WHOSE OFFICE THE PROMISE THAT THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PERISH.
[This is what happened on June 30, 1988, when Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated four bishops with Bishop de Castro Mayer as co-consecrator.]
WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3O, 1988 IS AN ABOMINABLE ACT OF DISOBEDIENCE TO THE HOLY FATHER, BLESSED POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT. WHAT LEFEBVRE DID IS PROTESTAND AND LUCIFERIAN.
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His reasoning has some bits of Gallicanism and Febronianism.
ReplyDeleteCORRECT.
ReplyDeleteWhat Has Changed?
ReplyDeleteIn the wake of the Second Vatican Council, an unprecedented number of changes have been implemented in the Church. Not only was the ancient rite of Mass changed ("for the first time in history, a manufactured liturgy was imposed upon the faithful"), but there was also a new canon law, a new catechism, new prayers/songs, a new liturgical calendar, a new Bible translation, new canonization procedures, new rites for ordination and baptism, new exorcism procedures, indulgences were changed, etc.
Although not all changes were authorized or called for by Vatican II, the Second Vatican Council may be considered an impetus for such change. In fact, not just external practices have changed since this revolutionary council, but the entire orientation of the Church has changed. The changes, while not revising infallible dogmas - which, of course is impossible - have nonetheless given the impression that the Church has changed entirely.
In fact, some have referred to the Church after the Second Vatican Council not as the "Catholic Church", but as the "Post-Conciliar Church". This terminology is interesting especially in light of the fact that some post-conciliar documents from the highest levels of the Church may appear as if the Church itself started with Vatican II. As Amerio has stated, "This conviction that a great innovation has occurred in the Church, attested by the universal change in everything from ideas to material objects to terminology, is also apparent in the continual reference made to the faith of the Second Vatican Council, while abandoning reference to the one Catholic Faith, which is the faith of all the councils." In any event, the Church after the Council has clearly presented a "new face" to the world.
The following is a brief summary of some changes since the Second Vatican Council:
ReplyDeleteChanged Indulgences
Changed Blessings
Changed Calendar
New Canon Law
New Catechism
New Educational System
Religious Order Changes
Roman Curia Reorganized
Overthrow of Rules in Religious Life
Abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books (Index Librorum Prohibitorum)
Discarding of Symbols (papal chair, tiara, etc.)
Less Focus on the Blessed Virgin Mary
Less Focus on Saints
Changed Artwork
Removal & Destruction of Existing Priceless Works of Art
Changed Music
Changed Breviary
Changed Rosary
Changed Prayers
Changed Orientation of Priests (e.g. "from spiritual to psychiatric", "from theological to psychological")
Changed Catechesis - It is well known that some popular catechesis actually is contrary to the perennial Catholic faith. Parents have even had to remove their children from 'Catholic' schools to protect them from false / dangerous teachings (including inappropriate sex education).
Adoption of Collegiality - This practice tends to weaken papal authority as well as the authority of individual bishops. As stated by Amerio "The weakening of a unifying papal authority began institutionally with the transfer in 1966 to local bishops of certain faculties previously reserved to the Holy See... The bishops' law-making power was subsequently further enlarged, with a corresponding contraction of Roman jurisdiction, and received a definitive status in the new Code of Canon Law". Also, with collegiality, bishops are said to "actually suffer a loss of control" since they may tend to relinquish their authority to local or national councils.
Increased Reliance on Lay 'Experts'
Increased Conformity to the World
Use of 'Medicine of Mercy' Rather Than Authority / Correction
Apparent Shift in Emphasis from Truth to Liberty - Contrary to the long-standing custom of fighting heresy, it now seems as though heresy is "no big deal"
Apparent Forgetfulness of the Church's True Mission of Saving Sinners From Hell
Apparent Shift from Truth to Subjectivism
Apparent Exchange of "Certainty of Truth" for "Seeking of Truth"
"Focusing on Unity at the Expense of Truth"
Dropped Liturgical Seasons (e.g. Septuagesima)
Elimination of Ember Days
Elimination of Rogation Days ("which date from at least the 400's -500's - and which the saints participated in")
Reduction / Elimination of Octaves and Vigils
Changing of Friday Abstinence Regulations
Elimination of Preparatory Period Before Lent
Relaxation of Penance in Lent - "The observance of Lent is the very badge of Christian warfare. By it we prove ourselves not to be enemies of the cross of Christ. By it we avert the scourges of divine justice. By it we gain strength against the princes of darkness, for it shields us with heavenly help. Should mankind grow remiss in their observance of Lent, it would be a detriment to God's glory, a disgrace to the Catholic religion, and a danger to Christian souls. Neither can it be doubted that such negligence would become the source of misery to the world, of public calamity, of private woe." (Pope Benedict XIV, 1741 A.D.)
Reduced Fast Days
PART II: SUMMARY OF CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteApparent Forgetfulness That We Are a Church Militant - "We hear of a people of God on the march, a pilgrim Church - a Church no longer Militant against the powers of darkness, but one which, having lost its link with eternity, marches to a future envisioned in purely temporal terms." (Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci)
Apparent Distancing of Church from Calvary - According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[The] post-conciliar church] is distancing itself appreciably from the event of Calvary"
Introduction of Constant Change / Loss of Stability - "The Church has lost the sense of stability. Prior to Vatican II, there was great stability. Those who sought change were the ones who were looked at suspiciously. Now, the psychology has been shifted to accept change." It now almost seems as if nothing is free from change.
Emphasis Shift - In contrast with Holy Scripture, which tells of God's love and mercy, yet often explains the rigorous punishments for disobedience to God, the Post-Conciliar Church tends to focus rather heavily on love and mercy. As the Baltimore Catechism reminds us, "The forgetfulness of God's justice will lead us into the sins of presumption."
Apparent Unwillingness to Discuss "Negative" Topics (e.g. judgment, purgatory, hell, etc.)
Changes to Rituals Which Cause a Widespread Loss of Reverence & Solemnity, Frequent Incidents of Liturgical Abuse, Sacrilege, and Profanation
Toleration of Undue Freedom
Apparent Refusal of Shepherds to Act as Such - "Bishops and other ordinaries should remember that they are shepherds... and that they must so rule over their subjects as not to dominate over them but to love them as sons and brothers; they should endeavor by exhortation and admonition to deter them from wrongdoing lest they be obliged to administer due punishment after the faults have been committed." (Council of Trent)
Apparent forgetfulness on part of shepherds that their primary job is to save souls - "Now priests seem to think their job is to make us feel better about ourselves or to act as psychiatrists"
Frequent Distortion / Corruption of the Concept of Love / Charity
Apparent Changed Outlook on Death Penalty - Contrary to what has always been held in the Church, the post-conciliar Church appears to condemn the concept of the death penalty for those guilty of certain grave crimes
Changed Treatment Regarding Those Who Commit Suicide - Since the Second Vatican Council, it is commonly assumed that persons who take their own life are not responsible for their actions. While this may make the survivors feel better, it shows great forgetfulness that such an action is objectively a grave sin against God (the unlawful taking of one's life, the sin of despair, etc.). It also tends to ignore the fact that the Church holds that one who is guilty of an unrepented mortal sin will suffer eternal damnation. Further, it does not discourage others from taking an action which may lead to their eternal damnation.
Increased Democracy in the Church - Note, of course, that democracy is contrary to the Church's hierarchical nature, as established by Christ
PART IV: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteReduction in Demands Made of Catholics - "Relaxing of rules teaches that duties can be eliminated when they prove difficult, it also results in the relaxing of the will, and provides no checking of natural impulses". According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[The post-conciliar Church] is reducing its demands and no longer resolving problems in accordance with the will of God, but in accordance with man's natural capacities".
Revolutionary New, Protestantized Liturgies - "With all due respect, some Catholic churches have become Protestant churches or community halls." (Msgr. Campell) Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci have even stated that "To prepare a complete study of all the pitfalls, dangers and psychologically and spiritually destructive elements the new rite contains, whether in texts, rubrics or instructions, would be a vast undertaking."
Changed Ordination Rite - According to Davies, the ordination rite "has been Protestantized even more thoroughly than the New Mass". He says that, "[E]very prayer in the traditional rite which stated specifically the essential role of a priest as a man ordained to offer propitiatory sacrifice for the living and dead has been removed. In most cases these were the precise prayers removed by the Protestant Reformers, or if not precisely the same there are clear parallels."
Changed Baptisms - According to Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome: "the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. [Pope] Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite."
Changed Rites for Other Sacraments - Many of these changes have been drastic
Elimination of Explicitly Sacrificial Prayers in Mass - This change is quote troublesome as it parallels the changes made by the Protestant 'Reformers' in the 16th century.
Changed Cycle of Readings For Mass - The new cycle is based on a 2-3 year cycle of readings rather than a one year cycle (which means that the same readings may take up to three years to reappear, thereby reducing retention)
Abolition of Black Vestments
Loss of Minor Orders
Changed Altars - Marble altars have been replaced by wooden tables
"Demotion" of the Altar - The altar, which represents Christ, in many new (or "wreckovated") churches, rather than being elevated above the laity, may now be on the same level as - or even lower than - the laity
"Demotion" of the Tabernacle - Often, the Tabernacle has been removed from the altar and has even been moved outside the Church (e.g. into a chapel). As Pope Pius XII said, "To separate the Tabernacle from the Altar is tantamount to separating two things which, of their very nature, must remain together."
Communion Under Both Species - This practice has led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity. This practice as was "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority".
PART V: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteIntroduction of Vernacular Language - With the adoption of the vernacular, the church loses control, she loses her universality, exchanging her prayers said in "one voice" to more closely resemble "the Tower of Babble". Not only does the Church have to waste time, money, and effort on translations - which have proven to be faulty - her doctrine has suffered from lack of safeguards. "As referring to the use of the vernacular in liturgical prayers - false, rash, disturbing the prescribed order of the celebration of the mysteries, and easily productive of many evils." (Pope Pius VI, "Auctorem Fidei", 1794 A.D.)
Communion in the Hand - This practice has also led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity and was also "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority"
Reduced Eucharistic Fast
Elimination of the Altar Rail - With the removal of the altar rail, not only are communicants encouraged to stand rather than kneel for Holy Communion, but its removal serves to blur the distinction between the sanctuary and the nave and between the priest and the faithful.
"Impoverished" Liturgical Vestments
Possible Elimination of Relics in Altars - Prior to the Second Vatican Council, altars were required to contain relics. This may be traced back to the earliest days of Christianity when Christians (that is, Catholics), celebrated Masses on the tombs of saints. It also corresponds to Scripture, where we see the martyrs under the altar (See Rv. 6:9). After Vatican II, this practice may be optional.
Reduction in Altar Cloths
Replacement of Sacred Chant By Secular Music - This change has also been accompanied by a changed in musical instruments (e.g. went from a pipe organ to guitars and drums)
Elimination of Side Altars - "The proposition of the synod enunciating that it is fitting, in accordance with the order of divine services and ancient custom that there be only one altar in each temple, and therefore, that it is pleased to restore that custom, [is condemned as] rash, injurious to the very ancient pious custom flourishing and approved for these many centuries in the Church, especially in the Latin Church." (Errors of the Synod of Pistoia, Condemned in the Constitution "Auctorem fidei," Aug. 28, 1794 A.D.)
Many Dropped Feast Days - Many feast days were dropped from the universal calendar (or given a lesser status). Note that many of these feasts trace back hundreds of years or more and include especially popular, beloved saints.
Drastic Changes in Prayers for Remaining Feasts - For example, one priest has pointed out that "All Souls' Day is [now] No Souls' Day, even in the original Latin, where the word for soul (anima) has been suppressed in the prayers of November 2."
Candles in Church - Reduced or eliminated. Some may now be artificial.
Crucifix in Church - May be reduced in size, distorted, may not contain a suffering Jesus, etc. Some may be simply plain crosses
Elevation of Man / Apparent Forgetfulness of God (Man-Centered vs. God-Centered) - There seems to be a turning away of man's eyes from God to man. Further, given the changes since the Council (relaxation of penance, discipline, etc.) one might even ask, "Has the council done nothing but seek to please men?"
PART VI: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteFrequent Inappropriate Handling of Holy Things - The laity now often handle - even carelessly - the most sacred of all things, Jesus' Body & Blood in the Holy Eucharist, despite the fact that we see in the Old Testament that God struck Uzzah down after he touched something he shouldn't have (the Ark). Worse still, since many take Communion in the hand
and don't examine their hands for particles, they cause Christ's body to literally be thrown on the ground and trampled on. Note: Remember that even the smallest particle is Jesus' flesh & blood, whole and entire: "Christ, whole and entire, is contained not only under either species, but also in each particle of either species." (Catechism of the Council of Trent)
Apparent Consideration of Jesus as Our "Buddy" Rather than as Almighty God, Our Lord and Judge
Adoption of Non-Catholic Spirituality by Certain Members of the Church (e.g. yoga) - Such practices may be accompanied by pagan rituals/symbolism, and those who practice them may attempt to discredit traditional Catholic spirituality.
Reduced Eucharistic Adoration
Changed Sacramentals
Lay 'Ministers'
Female Altar Servers
Near Loss of the Latin Language
Frequent Adoption of Terminology Acceptable to Protestants (e.g. table vs. altar, bread vs. Host, etc.)
Shift From "Repugnance" Towards Modern World to Embracing of the Modern World
Implications That Previous Church Documents / Dogmas Expire or Lose Validity
Apparent Denial of Absolute Truths / "Denial of Certainty"
Appearance of a "Watered Down" Doctrine
Apparent Adoption of Previously Condemned "Situation Ethics" Where Subjective Judgment and Moral Relativism Replace Objective Truths and Absolute Moral Standards
Apparent Support for the Condemned Concept of "Separation of Church and State"
Apparent (or Actual) Change of Purpose of Various Religious Orders
Apparent Shift From the Service of God to the Service of Man
PART VII: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDelete"Denigration of the Historical Church" - There seems to be no shortage of persons disparaging the Church's past, even high ranking prelates. "The Church, which has never betrayed the happiness of the people by consenting to dubious alliances, does not have to free herself from the past" (Pope St. Pius X, "Our Apostolic Mandate")
Detachment from the Past / Disregarding of the Past / Disparaging of the Past (e.g. the Church's glorious past has been seemingly exchanged for a "sinful past that requires numerous apologies") - Includes a "near silence on all things of the past" and a "sweeping away of historical elements - a wholesale overthrow of hundreds of years or more of tradition - which has served to cut modern Catholics off from previous Christian generations"
Near Elimination of Discipline, Even Though Abuses Are Well-Known & Widespread - "It seems the Church is now only capable of discipline in the case of 'Traditionalists' and some very flagrant liberals"
Internal Dissent
Relaxation of Rules - "When rules are relaxed, people act worse, not better"
Frequent (Apparent) Adoption of a Policy of "Shutting One's Eyes to Sin" (especially sins against the first commandment) - According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[the post-conciliar Church] shuts its eyes to sin, and is afraid of being reproached for not being modern"
Changed Environment Requiring Catholics to Make a Distinction Between "Traditional Catholics", "Conservative Catholics", "Progressive Catholics", Etc.
Manner of Reform Itself is a Break With Tradition - "[Previously,] All genuine reforms within the Church have been based on old foundations; none have attempted to lay new ones. To attempt to lay them is the essential characteristic of heresy, from the Gnosticism of the first centuries, to Catharism and the other mediaeval heresies regarding poverty, to the great German heresy of the sixteenth century." (Amerio)
Certain Elements of the Reform Are Difficult to Reconcile With Tradition - "Indeed, the extent and depth of the teaching of the Second Vatican Council call for a renewed commitment to deeper study in order to reveal clearly the Council's continuity with Tradition, especially in points of doctrine which, perhaps because they are new [!], have not yet been well understood by some sections of the Church."
Ridicule and Persecution of Those Who Uphold Traditional Doctrine & Practices - This occurs even as those who spread heterodox teaching and perform sacrilegious acts go unpunished - or even rewarded.
Universal Documents May No Longer Be Published in the Church's Official Language
Movement From Unity to Disunity / Uniformity to Pluralism
Shying Away From 'Negative' Topics (Hell, Judgment, Sin, etc.) - "We no longer talk about sin at precisely the same time as the world is more sinful than ever!"
Heterodox Teachings Common
Wayward Prelates Not Corrected
Seeming Denial of the Loss of Human Dignity When One Commits Sin - and Therefore Becomes the Slave of Sin - "Jesus answered them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave of sin.'" (Jn. 8:34)
"Apparent Lack of Critical Thinking and Discounting of Reason" by Certain Liberal Prelates
New Orientation (Horizontal Vs. Vertical)
Lost Missionary Impetuous
Less Focus on Last Things
Failure to Refute Errors - Error refutation has been exchanged for "dialog"
They are 'the modern Bulaang Propeta'. Mga MANLILINLANG!
ReplyDeleteLORD "JESUS" ang pumili kay St. Peter para maging kahalili nya, kaya ang labas sa ating simbahang Katoliko at di nagpapasakop sa "Pope" ay fake at illegal.
Ate Mary
[What Has Changed?]
ReplyDeleteWHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE CHURCH ARE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGEABLE AND IT IS THE POPE WHO DECIDES IF THEY ARE TO BE CHANGED OR NOT. YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE HAS NO AUTHORITY TO DECIDE FOR THE WHOLE CHURCH IN OPPOSITION TO THE POPE.
[In the wake of the Second Vatican Council, an unprecedented number of changes have been implemented in the Church.]
AND IT IS RIGHTLY SO. THE BISHOPS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD GATHER TOGETHER UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT TO LEAD THE CHURCH IN FACING THE MODERN WORLD. AND THE BISHOPS IN COMMUNION WITH THE POPE DECIDED WHICH ARE TO BE CHANGED AND WHAT CANNOT BE CHANGED.
YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE COWARDLY SIT DURING THE FOUR YEARS OF THE COUNCIL NEVER ONCE RAISED HIS VOICE INSIDE THE COUNCIL TO OPPOSE. HE WAS TO COWARDLY AND SENILE TO DO THAT. BUT, THE ARCHBISHOP OF MANILA, CARDINAL SANTOS DEBATED CARDINAL KOENIG IN LATIN FOR A SEPARATE DOCUMENT ON MARY. HE LOST THE VOTE BUT ACCEPTED IT GENTLEMANLY. CARDINAL OTTAVIANI ALSO LOST IN THE DEBATES AFTER HE VALIANTLY DEBATED HIS OPPONENTS BUT HE ACCEPTED DEFEAT WITH GRACE AND CHARITY. BUT LEFEBVRE ACCEPTED THE LOST WITH BITTERNESS SIMILAR TO WHAT LUCIFER FELT AFTER BEING THROWN FROM HEAVEN. LIKE LUCIFER HE STARTED DECEIVING OTHERS TO REBEL AGAINST THOSE CHOSEN BY GOD. UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE DECEIVED. SORRY FOR YOU.
[Not only was the ancient rite of Mass changed ("for the first time in history, a manufactured liturgy was imposed upon the faithful"),]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THE TLM IS NOT THE ANCIENT RITE OF THE MASS. EXCUSE ME. THERE ARE RITES OLDER THAN THE TLM. THE TLM IS ACTUALLY A NEW RITE - A MANUFACTURED LITURGY IMPOSED UPON THE FAITHFUL BY THE POPE - IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT LANGUAGE.
IN QUO PRIMUM, POPE ST. PIUS V HIMSELF ADMITTED THAT THE TLM IS A NEW RITE MADE BY A COMMISSION THAT HE FORMED. THAT WAS EXACTLY THE WAY POPE PAUL VI, OF BLESSED MEMORY, HAD DONE FOR THE PAULINE MASS:
"We deemed it necessary to give our immediate attention to what still remained to be done, viz, the re-editing of the Missal as soon as possible.
Hence, We decided to entrust this work to learned men of our selection. They very carefully collated all their work with the ancient codices in Our Vatican Library and with reliable, preserved or emended codices from elsewhere." [QUO PRIMUM of Pope St. Pius V 1st & 2nd par]
IF YOU ARE ANGRY AT THE REVISIONN OF THE MISSAL AND OF THE COMMISSION RE-EDITING AND REVISING IT THEN YOU SHOULD HATE POPE ST. PIUS V WHO DID THE SAME FOR THE TLM. HOW COME WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE 1TH CENTURY CHURCH CANNOT BE DONE FOR THE 20TH CENTURY CHURCH?
THE TLM IS A NEW RITE:
ReplyDelete"This NEW RITE alone is to be used unless approval of the practice of saying Mass differently was given at the very time of the institution and confirmation of the church by Apostolic See at least 200 years ago, or unless there has prevailed a custom of a similar kind which has been continuously followed for a period of not less than 200 years, in which most cases We in no wise rescind their above-mentioned prerogative or custom. However, if this Missal, which we have seen fit to publish, be more agreeable to these latter, We grant them permission to celebrate Mass according to its rite, provided they have the consent of their bishop or prelate or of their whole Chapter, everything else to the contrary notwithstanding." [QUO PRIMUM par 4]
THE TLM WAS A NEW RITE WAY BACK IN THE 16TH CENTURY. IT WAS NOT THE RITE OF THE MASS OF THE APOSTLES AND THE ROMAN MARTYRS AND OF THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS BUT THE GREEK MASS.
IF HAVING A NEW RITE IS EVIL THEN THE TLM WAS EVIL WHEN IT WAS NEW. IN FACT, IT WAS ALSO A FINISHED PRODUCT OF A COMMISSION FORMED BY THE POPE.
[but there was also a new canon law, a new catechism, new prayers/songs, a new liturgical calendar, a new Bible translation, new canonization procedures, new rites for ordination and baptism, new exorcism procedures, indulgences were changed, etc.]
THANKS BE TO GOD THAT THERE ARE THESE BLESSINGS. WHERE IS IT IN THE TRADITION OF THE CHURCH THAT THE CALENDAR, THE CANON LAW, THE PRAYER BOOKS AND THE RITE OF EXORCISMS CANNOT BE REVISED OR EDITED OR BE RENEWED? WHERE? WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT THESE THINGS CANNOT BE REVISED, EDITED AND BE RENEWED? TELL ME... TELL US.
IF YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT IN CHURCH HISTORY AND IF YOU ARE NOT BLIND YOU WILL REALIZE THAT IT WAS THE COUNCIL OF TRENT, POPE ST. PIUS V AND THE QUO PRIMUM THAT TAUGHT US THAT THE MISSAL, BREVIARY, CATECHISM, ETC. CAN BE REVISED. IT IS THERE IN QUO PRIMUM:
"For, besides other decrees of the sacred Council of Trent, there were stipulations for Us to revise and re-edit the sacred books: the Catechism, the Missal and the Breviary. With the Catechism published for the instruction of the faithful, by God's help, and the Breviary thoroughly revised for the worthy praise of God, in order that the Missal and Breviary may be in perfect harmony, as fitting and proper - for its most becoming that there be in the Church only one appropriate manner of reciting the Psalms and only one rite for the celebration of Mass - We deemed it necessary to give our immediate attention to what still remained to be done, viz, the re-editing of the Missal as soon as possible." [QUO PRIMUM par 1]
HA HA HA... YOU SEE YOU SON OF THE DEVIL. YOU ARE HIDING THESE THINGS TO OUR FAITHFUL SO THAT YOU CAN DECEIVE THEM IN YOUR LUCIFERIAN AND PROTESTANT-LIKE REBELLION.
IF THE COUNCIL OF TRENT STIPULATED THAT THESE THINGS CAN BE CHANGED SO DID THE VATICAN II. IF POPE PIUS V CAN REVISE AND RE-EDIT SO DID POPE PAUL VI. THE POWER THAT BINDS IS THE POWER THAT LOOSES. THE POWER THAT CLOSES IS THE POWER THAT OPENS. THAT POWER IS THE POWER OF THE POPE. IN THE BIBLE IT IS CALLED "THE POWERS OF THE KEYS OF PETER".
[Although not all changes were authorized or called for by Vatican II, the Second Vatican Council may be considered an impetus for such change.]
ReplyDeleteARE YOU REALLY OUT OF YOUR MIND. ARE ALL CHANGES AFTER THE COUNCIL OF TRENT AUTHORIZED AND CALLED FOR BY TRENT? NO. THE SPECIFID DETAILS DEPENDED UPON THE POPE AND THE HOLY SEE WHO WORKED UNDER HIM.
THE VATICAN II IS THE IMPETUS OF CHANGE THAT HAPPENED AFTERWARD JUST LIKE TRENT WAS THE IMPETUS OF THE CHANGE THAT HAPPENED AFTER IT. BOTH COUNCIL PRODUCED CHANGE. BOTH EFFECTED CHANGES IN THE RITE OF THE MASS, THE MISSAL, THE BREVIARY, THE CATECHISM, ETC. ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT?
[In fact, not just external practices have changed since this revolutionary council, but the entire orientation of the Church has changed.]
THE SSPX IS THE REVOLUTIONARY ONE. BUT THE VATICAN II IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY. IT ONLY FOLLOWED THE ANCIENT TRADITION OF TRANSLATING THE BIBLE FROM GREEK TO LATIN AND SO IF THE BIBLE CAN BE TRANSLATED THEN THE CATECHISM, THE MISSAL AND THE BREVIARY CAN BE TRANSLATED AS WELL. LATIN WAS FORMERLY A VULGAR LANGUAGE BUT IT WAS USED BY THE CHURCH. IF TRENT CAN REVISE VATICAN II CAN REVISE. IF THE BIBLE CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO VULGAR LATIN THEN THE MISSAL CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO VERNACULAR LANGUAGE. IS THE MISSAL MORE CANONICAL THAN THE BIBLE?
[The changes, while not revising infallible dogmas - which, of course is impossible - have nonetheless given the impression that the Church has changed entirely.]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ADMITTING THAT THE DOGMAS OF THE CHURCH WERE NOT CHANGED. HOW NICE OF YOU. DO YOU WANT COFFEE, A BURGER, A COOKIE OR A HUG EVEN A KISS FOR THAT? HA HA HA... YOU SEE EVEN THE DEMONS DO ADMIT THE FIDELITY OF THE CHURCH. HE HE HE...
CONCERNING IMPRESSION, WELL THAT IS ONLY YOUR IMPRESSION. BUT YOUR IMPRESSION IS NOT OUR IMPRESSION. ITS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. YOU CAN GO TO HELL FOR YOUR IMPRESSION BUT WE KEEP OUR FIDELITY TO THE POPE AND TO THE TRUTH OF THE FAITH. THE ESSENCE OF THE FAITH IS CHANGELESS AND THE SAME SEMPER ET UBIQUE, BUT THE ACCIDENTS CAN BE CHANGED. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE POPE FOR THOSE CHANGES. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU CAN DIE IN YOUR DISGUST AND ENJOY YOUR PAIN TILL KINGDOM COME. IF YOU DON'T WANT ETERNAL PAIN THEN SUBMIT TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE VICAR OF CHRIST.
[In fact, some have referred to the Church after the Second Vatican Council not as the "Catholic Church", but as the "Post-Conciliar Church".]
ReplyDeleteI DON'T KNOW WHO ARE THESE SOME. MAY BE YOU'VE GOT SPECIAL COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE MALIGNANT SPIRITS AROUND THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF. HA HA HA... BUT ON OUR PART, OFFICIALLY AND LITURGICALLY AND CANONICALLY WE REFER TO THE CHURCH ALWAYS AS "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH". THAT IS WHAT WE ARE RECITING IN THE CREED. ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? HA HA HA...
IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF HISTORY, THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD AND OF ANY INSTITUTION IS USUALLY SUBDIVIDED BASED ON VERY IMPORTANT EVENTS. FOR INSTANCE, THE PRE-CIVIL WAR AMERICA AND THE POST-LINCOLN AMERICA. AND SO, THE TERM 'POST-VATICAN II CHURCH' DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE CHURCH IS NO LONGER THE SAME CHURCH AFTER VATICAN II BECAUSE THERE IS ALSO A TERM CALLED 'THE POST-TRENT CHURCH' OR THE POST-NICAEAN CHURCH OR THE POST-PATRISTIC CHURCH OR THE POST APOSTOLIC CHURCH. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? THESE ARE MERE DISTINCTIONS OF HISTORICAL PERIOD.
YOU SSPX ARE VERY PHARISAICAL. EVEN IN GOOD THINGS YOU ARE SEEING EVIL. REPENT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR YOUR SOULS.
[This terminology is interesting especially in light of the fact that some post-conciliar documents from the highest levels of the Church may appear as if the Church itself started with Vatican II.]
ONLY IDIOTS WILL THINK LIKE THAT. BECAUSE THE VATICAN II NEVER TAUGHT THAT THE CHURCH STARTED ONLY WITH THE VATICAN II. THAT IS YOUR HALLUCINATION AND DELUSION. THAT IS A CLAIM THAT YOU INVENTED BUT NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY IOTA OF PROOF FROM THE DOCUMENTS OF THE COUNCIL ITSELF. YOU ARE SPITTING US WITH YOUR LIES AND WE WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN BECAUSE YOUR LIES ARE TOO OBVIOUS TO BE HIDDEN.
[As Amerio has stated,]
AMERIO WHO? WHO IS THIS ANIMAL? I DON'T KNOW HIM? HE IS NOT MY SHEPHERD AND HE IS NOT THE VICAR OF CHRIST. I ONLY KNOW THE VOICE OF OUR SHEPHERDS. YOU CAN GO TO HELL WITH THAT ANIMAL.
["This conviction that a great innovation has occurred in the Church, attested by the universal change in everything from ideas to material objects to terminology, is also apparent in the continual reference made to the faith of the Second Vatican Council, while abandoning reference to the one Catholic Faith, which is the faith of all the councils."]
HA HA HA... THIS SSPX FOOL AND DECIEVER IS JUST COPY PASTING ARTICLES MADE BY HIS FELLOW TRAITORS INTO THIS BLOG. HA HA HA... LET US THROW THEIR ARGUMENTS BACK AT THEM.
IF THSI AMERIO IS NOT AN IDIOT HE IS SURE AWARE THAT THE PRE-VATICAN II CARDINAL AND NOW BLESSED JOHN HENRY NEWMAN WROTE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF DOGMA. THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH AND ITS ESSENCE ARE ONE AND THE SAME BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THEM DEVELOPES. SO THAT EVEN CREEDS HAVE EXPERIENCED DEVELOPMENT OF LANGUAGE AND TERMINOLOGIES. IS POPE LEO AND GREGORY THE GREAT AWARE OF "TRANSUBSTANTATION" AS A TERMINOLOGY FOR THE EUCHARIST? DID ST. JOHN THE APOSTLE WROTE USING THE TERMINOLOGIES: CONSUBSTANTIAL, THEOTOKOS, ONE BEING THREE PERSONS, IMMACULATE CONCEPTION, ASSUMPTION OF MARY BODY AND SOUL INTO HEAVEN... THE TRUTH OF FAITH IS ONE AND THE SAME BUT IDEAS AND TERMINOLOGIES ARE DEVELOPING.
WHAT IS DEMONIC WITH SSPX IS THAT INSTEAD OF SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT THEY PROHIBIT IT. SO IMPLICITLY THEY ARE AGENTS OF THE DEVIL - THE FATHER OF LIES.
[In any event, the Church after the Council has clearly presented a "new face" to the world.]
EVERY COUNCIL THE CHURCH PRESENTED A NEW FACE TO THE WORLD BUT THE SAME DOCTRINE. DEFINITELY THE APOSTLES DIDN'T WEAR THE EXTRAVAGANT AND POMPOUS CLOTHES OF SSPX IN TLM DURING THEIR MASSES. ALSO THE BISHOPS AND PRIESTS IN THE CATACOMBS. THE FACE OF CATHOLIC CHURCH DURING THE CATACOMBS ERA IS DIFFERENT FROM THE FACE FO THE CHURCH DURING THE CONSTANTINIAN ERA AND DURING THE TRIDENTINE ERA. WHAT DIDN'T CHANGE IS THE ESSENCE OF THE FAITH.
[The following is a brief summary of some changes since the Second Vatican Council:]
ReplyDeleteLET ME CHECK ON EACH ONE OF THEM.
[Changed Indulgences]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT INDULGENCES CANNOT BE CHANGED? IT IS WITHIN THE POWER TO BIND ADN TO LOOSE GIVEN BY THE LORD JESUS.
[Changed Blessings]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE BLESSING REMAINS THE SAME: "MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT."
[Changed Calendar]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE CALENDAR CANNOT BE CHANGED. TRADITION ATTESTS THAT THE POPE PREVIOUSLY CHANGED THE CALENDAR FROM JULIAN CALENDAR TO GREGORIAN CALENDAR. IF THE POPE WILL CHOOSE A PAULINE CALENDAR LATER THEN SORRY FOR YOU. YOU CAN DIE IN PAIN AND DEPRESSION ABOUT YOUR OLD CALENDAR LIKE THE REBELLIOUS MONKS OF MT. ATHOS WHO UNTIL NOW USE THE JULIAN CALENDAR. HA HA HA... YOU SEE YOU ARE ANTI-TRADITION. YOU ARE REBELS. YOU ARE LIKE THOSE REBEL BISHOPS WHO REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE NEW DATE FOR EASTER SET BY THE POPE.
[New Canon Law]
HA HA HA... IN 1917 THERE WAS A NEW CANON LAW. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE CANON LAW CANNOT BE REVISED? IS IT THE DEMON NAMED LEFEBVRE?
[New Catechism]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT CATECHISM CANNOT BE REVISED? HE HE HE...
DESPITE HAVING THE ROMAN CATECHISM THE CHURCH IN THE U.S. PRODUCED THE BALTIMORE CATECHISM AND POPE PIUS X PRODUDED HIS OWN 'CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X'. IF THE CHURCH CAN PUBLISHED THE ROMAN CATECHISM THEN SHE CAN ALSO PUBLISHED THE UNIVERSAL CATECHISM. ANY PROBLEM?
[New Educational System]
ReplyDeleteWHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM MUST REMAIN UNCHANGED?
[Religious Order Changes]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE DOMINICANS ARE STILL DOMINICANS AND THE JESUITS STILL JESUITS. HE HE HE... THE ORDER DIDN'T CHANGE. THEY REMAIN THE SAME.
[Roman Curia Reorganized]
HA HA HA... SO WHAT? PRE-VATICAN II POPES ALSO REORGANIZED THE ROMAN CURIA. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE ROMAN CURIA CANNOT BE REORGANIZED?
[Overthrow of Rules in Religious Life]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THERE IS NO OVERTHROWN RULES OF RELIGIOUS LIFE. THERE IS ONLY THE REVISED RULES OF RELIGIOUS LIFE. AND WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE RULES OF RELIGIOUS LIFE CANNOT BE CHANGED BY THE CHURCH?
[Abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books (Index Librorum Prohibitorum)]
FOR RIGHT REASON. HOW CAN YOU DEBATE THE ENEMIES OF THE FAITH IF YOU HAVE NOT READ THEIR BOOKS? IF YOU WILL FORBID THEM THEN WHAT YOU WILL GET IS IGNORANCE AND NOT INFORMATION ABOUT THE ENEMIES OF THE FAITH.
[Discarding of Symbols (papal chair, tiara, etc.)]
* ON PAPAL CHAIR: LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE PAPAL CHAIR IS STILL BEING USED. HE HE HE... WHAT IS NOT BEING USED IS THE 'SEDIA GESTATORIA' WHEREIN THE POPE IS BEING CARRIED ON THE SHOULDERS OF THE FAITHFUL. IT IS BUT PROPER BECAUSE EVEN KINGS AND EMPERORS ARE NO LONGER BEING CARRIED TODAY. THE POPE WILL LOOK LIKE A FOOL AND ARROGANT LANDLORD-ARISTOCRAT IF HE WILL BE CARRIED BY THE SHOULDERS.
* ON TIARA: THE TIARA IS NOT PART OF SACRED TRADITION. IT WAS A LATER ADDITION. IF IT WAS USED BY THE WILL OF THE POPE THEN IT CAN ALSO BE DISCARDED BY THE WILL OF THE POPE. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE POPES WHO DIDN'T WEAR THE TIARAS ARE NOT TRUE POPE?
[Less Focus on the Blessed Virgin Mary]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE FOCUS ON THE BLESSED VIRGIN IS GREATER THAN EVER. POPE PAUL VI AND BLESSED JOHN PAUL THE GREAT PROMOTED MARIAN DEVOTIONS VERY VERY MUCH. THEY EVEN VISITED PERSONALLY THE MARIAN SHRINES ALL OVER THE WORLD WHICH WAS NOT DONE BY PREVIOUS POPES AND TALKED TO SIS. LUCIA OF FATIMA PERSONALLY SEVERAL TIMES.
IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE FACT, THE VATICAN II IS THE COUNCIL THAT PRODUCED THE BEST EXPOSITION OF MARIOLOGY EVER. PAUL VI WROTE THE MARIALIS CULTUS AND JOHN PAUL THE GREAT WROTE THE 'REDEMPTORIS MATER'.
[Less Focus on Saints]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THERE ARE MORE SAINTS BEATIFIED AND CANONIZED BY POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT MORE THAN ANY OTHER POPES COMBINED. SO THIS FACT IS A MANIFESTATION OF SSPX STUPIDITY... A GLARING SHOW OF IGNORANCE AND/OR DECEPTION.
TELL THAT TO THE MARINES OR TO YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE WHO WILL NEVER BE CANONIZED FOR BEING A TRAITOR TO THE POPES AND TO THE VATICAN II COUNCIL.
[Changed Artwork]
HA HA HA... THE SSPX ARE ARTISTICALLY IDIOTS. THEY ARE SO STUPID IN ARTS THAT THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ICONS AND CATACOMB ARTS, BETWEEN ICONS AND MOSAIC, BETWEEN MOSAIC AND STAINED GLASS, AND STATUES MADE OF WOOD, IVORY, BRONZE, SILVER AND GOLD. THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CHANGE FROM THE WORKS FO RUBLEV AND MICHELANGELO.
ONLY FOOLS WILL CLAIM THAT THERE WAS NO CHANGES IN CATHOLIC ARTS BEFORE VATICAN II. SHAME ON YOU SSPX.
[Removal & Destruction of Existing Priceless Works of Art]
ReplyDeleteLIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THOSE WHO REMOVED AND DESTROYED WERE THE THIEVES AND NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THE INSTRUCTION IS TO PRESERVE THOSE PRICELESS OBRA MAESTRA AND NOT TO DESTROY THEM. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH UNDER THE LEADERSHIOP OF THE CONTEMPORARY POPES PRESERVED THE PRICELESS WORKS OF ARTS.
[Changed Music]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT MUSIC CANNOT BE CHANGED? IF THAT IS THE CASE IT IS ALSO EVIL TO COMPOSE NEW SONGS FOR THE CHURCH. EXCUSE ME YOU ARE BEING PRETENTIOUS. THE CHURCH IS FAMOUS IN COMMISSIONING THE BEST ARTISTS OF EVERY GENERATION TO PRODUCE NEW MUSIC OR WORK OF ARTS ACCORDING TO TIME AND SITUATION AND IN ACCORD WITH THEIR TALENTS.
[Changed Breviary]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE CHURCH DIDN'T CHANGE THE BREVIARY BUT REVISED IT. AND IT EVEN IMPROVED. THE GREAT ARCH. BUGNINI ADDED PATRISTIC AND ECCLESIAL WRITINGS TO BE READ IN THE OFFICE OF THE READINGS, TO OUR ETERNAL GRATITUDE. BUT SINCE THE SSPX IS POSSESSED BY THE DEVIL IT IS ANGRY OF COURSE BECAUSE THE DEVIL HATES THE FATHERS OF THE CHURCH AND THEIR WRITINGS WHILE THE WHOLE CHURCH REJOICES.
[Changed Rosary]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THIS IS PARTIAL TRUTH AND TWISTED TO SUIT YOUR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION. THE ROSARY WAS NOT JUST CHANGED RATHER IT WAS 'IMPROVED'. POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT ADDED THE LUMINOUS MYSTERIES WHICH ARE FROM THE BIBLE... FROM THE BIBLE, IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF THEM. THEN POPE PAUL VI, OF BLESSED MEMORY, ADDED IN THE LITANY OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN: "MATER ECCLESIAE".
YOUR SENILE FOUNDER LEFEBVRE WHOSE NAME IS A MERE TWIST OF LUCIFER AND LUTHER HATE THAT TITLE OF THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY BECAUSE HE IS OUTSIDE THE CHURCH WHERE THERE IS NO SALVATION. IT REMINDS HIM THAT BY BEING OUT OF FULL COMMUNION WITH THE POPE HE IS ALSO A TRAITOR TO THE MOTHER OF GOD.
[Changed Prayers]
HA HA HA... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE PRAYERS OF THE CHURCH WERE NOT CHANGED BUT RETAINED. THEY WERE MERELY TRANSLATED INTO THE COMMON LANGUAGE OF THE PEOPLE. SATAN DOES NOT LIKE THAT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PRAYERS OF THE CHURCH. THAT IS WHY THE VOODO SORCERERS AND WITCHES USE UNDERSTANDABLE LANGUAGE AND SOUND.
THE CHURCH PRESERVED AND RETAINED THE PRAYERS IN BOTH LATIN AND VERNACULAR. AND MUCH MORE SHE COMPOSED NEW PRAYERS FOR ADDITIONAL USE. THANKS BE TO GOD FOR THOSE NEW PRAYERS. HE HE HE...
[Changed Orientation of Priests (e.g. "from spiritual to psychiatric", "from theological to psychological")]
HA HA HA... I THINK THIS SSPX HAVE READ SO MUCH THE NOVEL OR THE MOVIE WITH THE SAME TITLE: "THE EXORCIST". AND HE IS SO ENAMORED BY THE FICTION STORY THAT HE DELUSIONALLY CLAIMS THAT IT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CHURCH. SORRY FOR YOU, WE DO NOT SHARE YOUR DELUSIONS. ENJOY YOUR DREAMS. WE CANNOT JOIN YOU IN THAT... THANKS BUT NO THANKS. HA HA HA...
[Changed Catechesis - It is well known that some popular catechesis actually is contrary to the perennial Catholic faith. Parents have even had to remove their children from 'Catholic' schools to protect them from false / dangerous teachings (including inappropriate sex education).]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE CHURCH ALWAYS COMPOSE NEW CATECHISMS FROM CENTURIES TO CENTURIES. AND CATECHISM CAN ALSO BE REVISED AS TESTIFIED BY POPE ST. PIUS V IN QUO PRIMUM. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT CATECHISMS CANNOT BE REVISED?
CONCERNING THOSE ALLEGED PARENTS, MAY BE YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE PARENTS OF LEFEBVRE, TISSIER DE MALLERAIS, WILLIAMSON AND FELLAY. IT'S ALRIGHT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR SONS HAVE INHERITED THEIR SENELITY. OUR PARENTS DIDN'T BRING US OUT OF CATHOLIC SCHOOLS BUT RATHER THEY GUIDE US TO LEARN THE CATECHISMS AND THE PRAYERS IN THOSE SCHOOLS. FOR THAT REASON WE REMAINED LOYAL TO THE POPE AND THE FEW FOOLISH TRAITORS LIKE YOU JOINED LEFEBVRE IN HIS REBELLION.
[Adoption of Collegiality - This practice tends to weaken papal authority as well as the authority of individual bishops.]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND. COLLEGIALITY IS A CATHOLIC DOCTRINE AND ROOTED IN SACRED SCRIPTURES. IT IS FOUNDED ON THE COLLEGE OF APOSTLES AND SINCE THE BISHOPS ARE SUCCESSORS TO THE APOSTLES THEY ALSO FORM A COLLEGE WHEREIN THEY SHARE THE GOVERNANCE OF THE CHURCH UNDER THE POPE AND NOT WITHOUT THE POPE. ONLY THOSE WHO ARE IGNORANT OF THE BIBLE WILL DENY THE AUTHORITY OF THE APOSTLES AND THEIR SUCCESSORS.
[As stated by Amerio "The weakening of a unifying papal authority began institutionally with the transfer in 1966 to local bishops of certain faculties previously reserved to the Holy See...]
THIS AMERIO IS OUT OF HIS MIND. COLLEGIALITY DID NOT WEAKEN THE PAPACY BUT STRENGTHENED AND SUPPORTED IT. THE DOCTRINE GIVES CLARIFICATION ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE BISHOPS IN COMMUNION WITH THE POPE AND HOW THEY CAN EFFECTIVELY SERVE THE CHURCH BY WORKING TOGETHER WITH ONE ANOTHER UNDER THE POPE.
ON THE CONTRARY, IT IS THE SSPX THAT WEAKENS THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE BECAUSE IT REJECTED THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS AND TWISTED CATHOLIC TEACHINGS TO ESCAPE SUBMISSION TO THE SAME POPE AND BISHOPS. HEY, SSPX STOP THROWING TO US YOUR OWN EVIL PRACTICES.
IF THE POPE GAVE CERTAIN FACULTY PREVIOUSLY EXCLUSIVE OF THE HOLY SEE THAT IS THE PREROGATIVE OF THE POPE. THE POPE BEING THE BEARER OF THE KEYS OF PETER CAN GIVE AND CAN ALSO TAKE BACK. WHO IS THIS AMERIO TO QUESTION THE DECISION OF THE POPE? WHO IS THE ANIMAL? WE DON'T KNOW HIM AND WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIS AUTHORITY.
[The bishops' law-making power was subsequently further enlarged, with a corresponding contraction of Roman jurisdiction, and received a definitive status in the new Code of Canon Law".]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... COLLEGIALITY REFERS TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE BISHOPS IN THEIR OWN JURISDICTION AND ALSO THEIR GATHERING TOGETHER IN NATIONAL CONFERENCES SO THAT THEY CAN HELP EACH OTHER IN FACING THE PROBLEMS OF GOVERNANCE IN THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE NATION. BUT THE POWER OF THE POPE IS ABSOLUTE AND FULL IN BOTH DIOCESAN LEVEL AND IN NATIOANAL LEVEL. THE POWER OF THE POPE IS ABOLUTE AND SUPREME IN THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH, AS A WHOLE AND IN EVERY LOCALITIES. SO WHAT WEAKENING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
[Also, with collegiality, bishops are said to "actually suffer a loss of control" since they may tend to relinquish their authority to local or national councils.]
THIS AMERIO IS SUFFERING FROM INTERNAL CRISIS WHICH COULD BE MENTAL. HE IS IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT THE NATIONAL CONFERENCES OF BISHOPS HAVE NO JURISDICTION IN LOCAL DIOCESES. THAT POWER BELONGS TO THE BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE AND TO THE POPE ULTIMATELY. THE NATIONAL CONFERENCES IS A MERE CONFERENCE... A GATHERING OF BISHOPS TO HELP AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND FOR THEM TO HAVE A COLLECTIVE VOICE.
INSTEAD OF BEING HAPPY THAT BISHOPS ARE GATHERING TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THEIR NATION THE SSPX ARE ANGRY LIKE SATAN, ALWAYS BITTER IN ANY DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN THE CHURCH.
[Increased Reliance on Lay 'Experts']
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... THE SSPX HAVE GONE TO THE DOGS. WHO IN HIS RIGHT MIND REJECTS RELIANCE ON LAY EXPERTS? OF COURSE WE RELY ON EXPERTS WHETHER CLERIC, RELIGIOUS, MONKS, MEN OR WOMEN, OR LAY. EXPERTS MUST ALWAYS BE CONSULTED ACCORDING TO THEIR EXPERTISE. NOT TO RELY ON EXPERTS IS A SIGN OF PRIDE AND LACK OF WISDOM.
[Increased Conformity to the World]
HA HA HA... EVEN DURING THE APOSTOLIC TIMES THIS PROBLEM WAS STRONG IN THE CHURCH. THAT IS WHY THE APOSTLES KEEP ON REMINDING THE FAITHFUL NOT TO CONFORM TO THE WORLD. AND DURING THE MIDDLE AGES THIS IS ALSO AN ISSUE IN THE CHURCH BUT THE MONKS AND ST. FRANCIS DIDN'T DISOBEY THE POPE. AND IN THE 16TH CENTURY MARTIN LUTHER USED THE SAME ISSUE TO DEFY THE POPE AND LEFEBVRE IS FOLLOWING THE FOOTSTEPS OF LUTHER RATHER THAN OF ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI.
YOU HYPOCRITE SSPX. YOU HAVE WIDENED YOUR PHYLACTERIES AND HAVE SOWN GOLDEN VESTMENTS FOR YOUR WORSHIP BUT YOUR OBEDIENCE TO THE VICAR OF CHRIST IS MADE OF GARBAGE. REFORM YOUR WAYS AND HUMBLE YOURSELF.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH NEVER TAUGHT THE FAITHFUL TO CONFORM TO THE WORLD BUT TO RENEW THE WORLD BY ENGAGING AND CONFRONTING IT WITH THE GOSPEL VALUES. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE MODERNISTS AND THE LIBERALS ARE ANGRY AT THE POPE NOT AT LEFEBVRE WHO HAD DONE NOTHING TO FIGHT THE WORLD. JOHN XXIII CONFRONTED THE WORLD WITH PACEM IN TERRIS, PAUL VI CONFRONTED THE WORLD WITH HUMANAE VITAE AND JOHN PAUL THE GREAT CONFRONTED THE WORLD WITH VERITATIS SPLENDOR. BUT WHAT DID LEFEBVRE DID TO CONFRONT THE EVIL OF THIS WORLD? TO DEFY AND DISOBEY THE POPE LIKE THE MASONS, THE MODERNISTS, THE LIBERALS, THE ABORTIONISTS AND THE CONDOMISTS. SHAME ON YOU SSPX.
[Use of 'Medicine of Mercy' Rather Than Authority / Correction]
O NO, NO, NO... LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. ONLY FOOLS AND IGNORANT CAN BE DECIEVED BY YOUR CLEVER TRICK. HERE IS THE CORRECT STATEMENT OF POPE JOHN XXIII IN THE OPENING OF VATICAN II:
"And often errors vanish as quickly as they arise, like fog before the sun The Church has always opposed these errors. Frequently she has condemned them with the greatest severity. Nowadays however, the Spouse of Christ prefers to make use of the medicine of mercy rather than that of severity." [BLESSED JOHN XXIII, Gaudet Mater Ecclesia]
CONTRARY TO YOUR CLAIM THE POPE DIDN'T SAY THAT THE CHURCH WILL NO LONGER USE ITS AUTHORITY AND WILL NO LONGER CORRECT ERRORS. INSTEAD WILL APPLY THE MEDICINE OF MERCY RATHER THAN SEVERITY. YOU TWISTED IT TO APPEAR AS IF THE POPE IS RELINQUISHING AUTHORITY AND CORRECTION. EXCUSE ME. TELL THAT TO THE MARINES.
THE POPE AND THE COUNCIL SIMPLY WANTS TO BE MORE CHARITABLE. INSTEAD THE SSPX ARE ANGRY FOR THAT. LIKE SATAN WHO IS SO ANGRY WITH CHARITY THE SSPX PREFERS THE MEDICINE OF SEVERITY AND HATRED. BUT THESE ANIMALS WANT TO BE TREATED WITH LOVE AND RESPECT. THEY DONT WANT TO BE CRITICIZED. HELLO. WE ARE NOT BORN YESTERDAYS. WE KNOW YOUR TRUE COLORS. WE ARE NOT DECEIVED BY YOUR LIES AND DECEPTIONS.
[Apparent Shift in Emphasis from Truth to Liberty - Contrary to the long-standing custom of fighting heresy, it now seems as though heresy is "no big deal"]
ReplyDeleteONCE AGAIN MAY I REMIND YOU NOT TO IMPOSE YOUR OWN DELUSIONS ON US. OUR EMPHASIS IS ON THE PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. JESUS IS BOTH THE TRUTH AND THE SOURCE OF LIBERTY. THE TWO ARE NOT OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER BUT RATHER ESSENTIALLY INTERCONNECTED AND HARMONIOUS. ONLY FOOLS WILL SET THEM OPPOSED TO ONE ANOTHER. YOU ONLY SHOWED THAT YOU ARE IN ERROR BECAUSE ALL VIRTUES ARE ONE IN GOD.
AND IT IS NOT TRUE THAT WE ARE NOT FIGHTING HERESIES. WE ARE THE ONES FIGHTING HERESIES. THE POPE IS LEADING US IN FIGHTING THE HERESIES. NOT THE SSPX AND NOT LEFEBVRE. I AM FIGHTING HERESIES MORE THAN BERNARD FELLAY AND TISSIER DE MALLERAIS COMBINED. I CONFRONT THE HERETICS HERE ON DAILY BASIS AND ON MEDIA. THE NOVUS ORDO CATHOLIC APOLOGISTS IN THE U.S. RUNS THE BIGGEST CATHOLIC APOLOGETICS IN THE AMERICAS AND IN THE PHILIPPINES FROM 1936 THE CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS CONFRONT THE HERESIES AND I AM THEIR NATIONAL SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR AT THE PRESENT. I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN APOLOGETICS SINCE HIGH SCHOOL DAYS WHEN THE ONLY MASS THAT I KNOW THEN WAS THE TAGALOG MASS.
HOW ABOUT THE SSPX? WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO CONFRONT AND DEFEAT THE HERETICS? ALMOST ZERO, EXCEPT FEW PRETENSIONS. THE NOVUS ORDO PEOPLE ARE THE ONES DEFEATING AND DESTROYONG HERESIES WHILE THE SSPX PRIESTS ARE SCRATCHING THEIR BALLS INSIDE THEIR EXPENSIVE COSSACKS, COPES AND VESTMENTS. YOU ARE USELESS AGAINST THE HERETICS AND THE HERETICS DO NOT BOTHER YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT YOU ARE USELESS. THEY CONFRONT AND FIGHT US, NOT YOU. THEY ATTACK THE POPE NOT LEFEBVRE.
THE SSPX ACTUALLY HELPS MORE THE HERETICS BY UNDERMINING THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE FROM WITHIN THE CHURCH EVEN THOUGH CANONICALLY THEY ARE OUT OF THE CHURCH. YOU WILL GO TO HELL FOR THAT. YOU WILL PAY FOR ALL THE EVILS THAT YOU HAVE DONE AGAINST THE PERSON AND AUTHORITY OF THE VICAR OF CHRIST.
[Apparent Forgetfulness of the Church's True Mission of Saving Sinners From Hell]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... IT IS THE POPE THAT SAVES SINNERS FROM HELL BY THE POWER OF THE KEYS OF PETER. IT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT SAVES SOULS IN THE NAME OF CHRIST. THE SSPX ARE OUTSIDE THIS CHURCH. THEY PRETEND TO BE IN BUT IN REALITY THEY ARE OUT. LEFEBVRE DIED OUTSIDE THE CHURCH WHERE THERE IS NO SALVATION.
THE GOAL OF SSPX IS TO DEFY THE POPE AND TO DECEIVE MORE CATHOLICS TO JOIN THEIR REBELLION. BUT THE GOAL OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TO SAVE SOULS. THAT IS WHY MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF SOULS CRY OUT EVERY TIME THE POPE PASSES BUT FOR LEFEBVRE AND FOR FELLAY THEY ARE PIECE OF JUNK INCOMPARISON WITH THE POPE BECAUSE THE SENSUS FIDEI KNOWS WHO IS THE REAL SHEPHERD AND WHO IS THE FAKE. THE SSPX IS FAKE THAT IS WHY IT IS MARKED BY AN X PRECEEDDED BY TWO "S" FOR SERPENTESS.
[Apparent Shift from Truth to Subjectivism]
DELUSIONAL. FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TRUTH IS NOT SUBJECTIVE BUT OBJECTIVE AND NOT ONLY OBJECTIVE IT IS A PERSON - AN INCARNATE GOD - THE PERSON OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. ARE YOU IGNORANT OF THAT? HE HE HE...
[Apparent Exchange of "Certainty of Truth" for "Seeking of Truth"]
HA HA HA... FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THERE IS CERTAINTY OF TRUTH BECAUSE JESUS IS CERTAIN AND TRUE. AND THE CHURCH POSSESSED THE FULLNESS OF TRUTH - THE SPLENDOR OF TRUTH - THAT IS THE LORD JESUS. ARE YOU IGNORANT OF THAT?
BUT, AS THE CHURCH POSSESSES THE FULLNESS OF TRUTH HER FAITHFUL IS STILL SEEKING FOR TRUTH IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ARE ASKING THE HOLY SPIRIT FOR MORE KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH OF CHRIST. THAT IS WHY THERE IS CHRISTIAN PEDAGOGY, THERE IS A CATHOLIC EDUCATION AND THERE IS SPIRITUAL FORMATION IN THE CHURCH. ARE YOU IGNORANT OF THAT FACT?
["Focusing on Unity at the Expense of Truth"]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... ANOTHER DELUSIONAL CLAIM FROM AN IGNORANT FOOL. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SEEKS UNITY, YES. BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF TRUTH. WHAT TRUTH DID WE COMPROMISE? WHAT TRUTH DID WE ABANDONE? NONE.
WE DIALOGUE WITH NON CATHOLICS SO THAT WE CAN CONVINCE THEM OF THE TRUTH OF THE FAITH. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE GREAT PROTESTANT THEOLOGIAN MAX THURIAN CONVERTED TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BECAUSE OF POPE PAUL VI AS WELL AS BRO. ROGER OF TAIZE. WHOM DID LEFEBVFE OR FELLAY CONVERT TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH? NONE. NADA, NUNCA. IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA...
BECAUSE OF JOHN PAUL THE GREAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF EVANGELICALS AND BORN AGAIN IN THE U.S. BECAME CATHOLICS.INCLUDING THE GREAT DR. SCOTT HAHN AND THE ANGLICAN BISHOP OF LONDON LEONARD GRAHAM CROSSED THE TIBER. IMAGINE, THE 3RD HIGHEST LEADER OF THE ANGLICAN CHURCH CONVERTED. HOW ABOUT LEFEBVRE AND FELLAY WHO ARE THEIR CONVERTS? NONE. NADA, NUNCA. IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA..
POPE BENEDICT XVI WHEN HE AS STILL CARDINAL WAS INTERVIEWED BY PETER SEEWALD [AN AGNOSTIC] IN A SERIES OF ONE ON ONE DIALOGUES WHICH LATER PUBLISHED IN BOOKS AND TURNED OUT BEST-SELLERS. THEN EVEN BEFORE HE BECAME POPE, THE AGNOSTIC PETER SEEWALD CONVERTED TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HOW ABOUT LEFEBVRE AND FELLAY? WHO ARE THEIR CONVERTS? NONE. NADA, NUNCA. IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA..
[Dropped Liturgical Seasons (e.g. Septuagesima)]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE LITURGICAL SEASONS CANNOT BE REVISED OR EDITED? ARE THOSE LITURGICAL SEASONS DOGMA OF THE CHURCH? THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE CHANGEABLE.
[Elimination of Ember Days]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE EMBER DAYS CANNOT BE REVISED OR EDITED? ARE THOSE LITURGICAL SEASONS DOGMA OF THE CHURCH? THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE CHANGEABLE AND REMOVABLE. BUT WAS IT REALLY ELIMINATED? NO. HERE:
On February 17, 1966, Pope Paul VI's decree Paenitemini excluded the Ember Days as days of fast and abstinence for Roman Catholics.[2]
The revision of the liturgical calendar in 1969 laid down the following rules for Ember Days and Rogation days:
In order to adapt the rogation and ember days to various regions and the different needs of the people, the conferences of bishops should arrange the time and plan of their celebration.
Consequently, the competent authority should lay down norms, in view of local conditions, on extending such celebrations over one or several days and on repeating them during the year.
On each day of these celebrations the Mass should be one of the votive Masses for various needs and occasions that is best suited to the intentions of the petitioners.[3]
They may appear in some calendars as "days of prayer for peace"
IT IS NO LONGER CALLED EMBER DAYS BUT DAYS OF PRAYER FOR PEACE. WHAT IS WRONG AND EVIL ABOUT THAT?
[Elimination of Rogation Days ("which date from at least the 400's -500's - and which the saints participated in")]
AS STATED ABOVE TT IS NOT ELEMINATED BUT REVISED.
[Reduction / Elimination of Octaves and Vigils
ReplyDeleteChanging of Friday Abstinence Regulations
Elimination of Preparatory Period Before Lent]
WELL, THE CHURCH DECIDED TO SIMPLIFY THE LITURGY. WHAT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT IN THE REVISION ARE NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE PRAYER AND WORSHIP OF THE CHURCH AND THEIR PURPOSE ARE NOT ELIMINATED BUT MERELY EXPRESSED IN DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ARE STILL BASED ON THE TRADITION OF THE CHURCH. WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION THE AUTHORITY OF THE VICAR OF CHRIST. EVEN IF YOU CRY YOUR HEART OUT WHAT HAD BEEN REVISED IS REVISED AND THEY CAN ONLY BE RETURNED BY THE SAME AUTHORITY WHO REMOVED THEM. THAT IS WHY THESE THINGS ARE COMING OUT AGAIN DUE TO SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM OF THE POPE.
[Relaxation of Penance in Lent - "The observance of Lent is the very badge of Christian warfare. By it we prove ourselves not to be enemies of the cross of Christ. By it we avert the scourges of divine justice. By it we gain strength against the princes of darkness, for it shields us with heavenly help. Should mankind grow remiss in their observance of Lent, it would be a detriment to God's glory, a disgrace to the Catholic religion, and a danger to Christian souls. Neither can it be doubted that such negligence would become the source of misery to the world, of public calamity, of private woe." (Pope Benedict XIV, 1741 A.D.)]
HA HA HA... THANK YOU FOR QUOTING OUR POPE WHO IS NOT YOUR POPE BECAUSE YOU ARE POPELESS. THE FACT THAT POPE BENEDICT STATED THAT PROVED THAT THE OBSERVANCE OF PENANCE DURING LENT WAS NOT REDUCED AT ALL BUT RATHER THE POPE REVISED ITS EXPRESSION BY NOT USING WORDS THAT CONNOTES IMPOSITION. THE PENANCE OF LENT MUST BE DONE WHOLEHEARTEDLY BY A CATHOLIC.
[Reduced Fast Days]
YOU CAN FAST AS MUCH AS YOU WANT UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF YOUR CONFESSOR. IF YOU WANT MUCH FASTING THEN YOU SHOULD START IT IN SSPX BECAUSE YOU ARE TROUBLED BY THE DEMON OF REBELLION.
[PART II: SUMMARY OF CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II]
ReplyDeleteWE GIVE PRAISE TO GOD FOR THE CHANGES BROUGHT BY VATICAN II. THE POPE CHANGED THINGS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY CHANGED BY HIS PREDECESSORS AS WELL.
[Apparent Forgetfulness That We Are a Church Militant - "We hear of a people of God on the march, a pilgrim Church - a Church no longer Militant against the powers of darkness, but one which, having lost its link with eternity, marches to a future envisioned in purely temporal terms." (Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci)]
HOW DARE YOU USE THE NAMES OF OUR BELOVED CARDINAL OTTAVIANI AND BACCI! OUR LORD CARDINALS OTTAVIANI AND BACCI WERE NO FOOLS LIKE LEFEBVRE AND IN FACT THEY REFUSED TO JOIN LEFEBVRE. NOT ONLY DID THEY REFUSE LEFEBVRE, YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL, BUT THEY ADMONISHED HIM NOT TO PROCEED WITH HIS PLAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE.
CARDINALS OTTAVIANI AND BACCI LIVED AND DIED FAITHFUL TO THE POPE AND THEY NEVER JOINED THE SSPX SOCIETY OF THE POPELESS. THEY ARE NOT ILLIGITIMATE AND LITURGICAL BASTARDS LIKE YOU.
BESIDES, POPE PAUL VI IS THE CHAMPION OF THE GOSPEL OF LIFE AGAINST THE MODERNISTS AND LIBERALISTS UNLIKE LEFEBVRE YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL WHO HAD DONE NOTHING TO OPPOSE THE ERRORS OF HIS TIME. INSTEAD, HE OPPOSED THE POPE NOT THE ERRORS. HIS SO CALLED INDIGNATION IS A MERE MASK BUT THE FOCUS OF HIS RAGE WAS ON THE POPE AND THE HIERARCHY. THAT IS WHY HIS STYLE IS LUCIFERIAN... VERY DECEPTIVE. AND UNTIL NOW THE SSPX ARE DOING THE SAME.
THOSE WHO ARE FIGHTING THE ENEMIES ARE THE POPES AND THOSE LOYAL TO HIM. WE ARE THE CHURCH MILITANT. THE SSPX IS A SOCIETY OF TRAITORS AND MILITANT AGAINST THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS.
[Apparent Distancing of Church from Calvary -]
VERY FOOLISH. BOTH POPE PAUL VI AND POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT ARE FAMOUS FOR THEIR THEOLOGY OF SUFFERING AND PERSONAL EXAMPLES OF SACRIFICE. LEFEBVRE IS FAMOUS FOR HIS LUNACY, COWARDICE, TREACHERY AND SENILITY.
[According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[The] post-conciliar church] is distancing itself appreciably from the event of Calvary"]
HA HA HA... THE SSPX ARE ONCE AGAIN SHOWING THEMSELVES AS IDIOTS. THIS IS THE CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI WHO KISSED THE RING OF POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT DURING HIS INAUGURATION AND HUGGED HIM WITH LOVE WITH TEARS OF JOY. ONLY DEMONS WILL CLAIM THAT CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI WAS AN SSPX SUPPORTER. NO, NO, NO... RATHER HE PROPHESIED THAT JOHN PAUL THE GREAT SHALL LEAD THE CHURCH TO THE NEW MILLENNIUM OF CHRISTIANITY.
CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI LIVED AND DIED LOYAL TO THE POPES AND HE IMPLEMENTED THE VATICAN II CHANGES IN HIS COUNTRY,POLAND, AS ITS LOYAL PRIMATE. HE IS NOT A TRAITOR LIKE LEFEBVRE.
STOP USING OUR LOYAL CARDINALS TO SUIT YOUR DEMONIC AGENDA, SSPX. NO, NO. NO....
[Introduction of Constant Change / Loss of Stability -]
ReplyDeleteONLY AMONG TRAITORS DID STABILITY HAD BEEN LOST. FOR US LOYAL CATHOLICS WE HAVE PRESERVED STABILITY BECAUSE WE ARE FOUNDED ON A ROCK THAT IS PETER. THE SSPX IS FOUNDED ON THE LUNACY OF LEFEBVRE.
["The Church has lost the sense of stability. Prior to Vatican II, there was great stability.]
STUPID. DURING THE 16TH CENTURY THE CHURCH WAS BESET BY SCANDALS, ABUSES AND MATERIALISM WHICH CAUSED THE PROTESTANT REVOLTS. PRIOR TO VATICAN II THE CHURCH WAS ALSO IN CRISIS IT WAS UNDER ATTACK FROM BOTH WITHIN AND WITHOUT. THAT IS WHY SHE LOST THE PAPAL STATES AND THE POPE BECAME A PRISONER IN THE VATICAN. PRIOR TO VATICAN II THE CHURCH HAS AN ARMY AND THE POPES THEN WERE HAVING ARMIES.
[ Those who sought change were the ones who were looked at suspiciously. Now, the psychology has been shifted to accept change."]
THE VATICAN II CHANGED THE THINGS THAT ARE BY FAITH AND BY TRADITION ARE CHANGEABLE IN THE CHURCH. ONLY THE SSPX FOOLS ARE CLAIMING THAT THEY MUST NOT BE CHANGED BUT HISTORY SHOWS OTHERWISE, THE CHURCH IN THE COURSE OF TIME CHANGED ITS USE OF LANGUAGE, ITS CALENDARS, ETC.
[It now almost seems as if nothing is free from change.]
YOU ARE FREE TO HALLUCINATE. HALLUCINATION IS FREE IN THIS WORLD. HE HE HE... THE DOGMA OF THE FAITH DIDN'T CHANGE BECAUSE THEY ARE UNCHANGEABLE.
[Emphasis Shift -]
EMPHASIS DO CHANGE. BOTH IN NICAEA AND IN EPHESUS COUNCILS THE FOCUS IS THE PERSON AND INCARNATION OF JESUS. BUT THE EMPHASIS CHANGE BASED ON THE PROBLEMS THAT CONFRONT THE CHURCH OR THE PASTORAL SITUATION. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT EMPHASIS MUST NOT BE CHANGED? WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN TRADITION THAT THE EMPHASIS MUST NOT SHIFT?
[In contrast with Holy Scripture, which tells of God's love and mercy, yet often explains the rigorous punishments for disobedience to God, the Post-Conciliar Church tends to focus rather heavily on love and mercy.]
YOU FIND IT PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THE SSPX IS LACKING OF LOVE AND MERCY. BEING THE LUCIFERIAN SOCIETY THAT YOU ARE, YOU FIND IT CONTRARY TO YOUR ESSENCE WHEN THE CHURCH PROCLAIMS LOVE AND MERCY. BUT SORRY FOR YOU, THE DOGMA OF HELL HAS NOT CHANGED AND SO THE DOGMA OF PURGATORY.
IF EVER WE PROCLAIM MORE ABOUT LOVE AND MERCY WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? DO YOU FIND IT HURTING? HE HE HE... YOU PHARISEES OF SSPX, YOU FIND EVIL EVEN IN THINGS THAT ARE GOOD. YOU ARE LIKE WOLVES IN SHEEP CLOTHING.
[As the Baltimore Catechism reminds us, "The forgetfulness of God's justice will lead us into the sins of presumption."]
UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU WE DIDN'T FORGET IT. WE ARE THE ONES REMINDING THE WORLD OF THAT AND THE POPE IS LEADING US ON THAT REGARD. THAT IS WHY THE MATERIALISTIC AND EGOISTIC WORLD HATE THE POPE BUT THEY LOVE THE SSPX BECAUSE THE SSPX HELPS THEM IN DESTROYING THE POPE AND THE CHURCH AUTHORITY.
[Apparent Unwillingness to Discuss "Negative" Topics (e.g. judgment, purgatory, hell, etc.)]
HA HA HA... WE ARE DISCUSSING THEM. WE DISCUSS THEM VERY MUCH. BUT THE SSPX ARE THE ONES WHO DO NOT DISCUSS THEM THEY PREFER TO TALK ABOUT THINGS AGAINST THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS AND ATTACKING VATICAN II. THEY ARE CRITICIZING THE EVIL THAT IS PRESENT IN THEIR OWN SOCIETY.
[Changes to Rituals Which Cause a Widespread Loss of Reverence & Solemnity, Frequent Incidents of Liturgical Abuse, Sacrilege, and Profanation]
ReplyDeleteWHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE RITUALS CANNOT BE CHANGED? POPE ST. PIUS V STATED CATEGORICALLY IN QUO PRIMUM THAT THE TLM WAS A NEW RITE PRODUCED OR IN YOUR TERM 'MANUFACTURED' BY A TEAM OF EXPERTS. IT WAS NEW AND IT WAS A CHANGE.
YOUR STYLE IS VERY CLEVER AND DECEPTIVE. YOU ATTRIBUTE THE ABUSES ON THE CHANGES VALIDLY DONE WHILE YOU ARE HIDING THE FACT THAT PRIOR TO VATICAN II THOSE ABUSES WERE PRESENT. FROM THE TIME OF THE APOSTLES ONWARD THERE WERE ABUSES: LITURGICAL, CANONICAL, MORAL AND SPIRITUAL ABUSES IN THE CHURCH. EXCUSE ME. YOU ARE DECEIVING US AND YOU ARE DECEIVING YOURSELVES. THE ONLY DIFFERENCES NOW THAN BEFORE IS THAT THERE ARE MEANS OF MODERN TECHNOLOGY TO RECORD AND TO SPREAD THE ABUSES WHICH WERE PREVIOUSLY UNAVAILABLE.
[Toleration of Undue Freedom]
THERE IS NO TOLERATION OF UNDUE FREEDOM. THE CHURCH IS JUST MORE HUMANE AND CHARITABLE DUE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF HUMAN UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN PERSON AND THE ADVANCEMENT OF INTERNATIONAL JURISPRUDENCE. IF THE ORDINARY COURT OF LAW HAVE BECOME MORE HUMANE HOW MUCH MORE THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE SACRAMENT OF GOD'S MERCY AND LOVE. UNFORTUNATELY THE SSPX IS SOCIETY OF HATE EXCEPT WHEN IT ASKS FOR UNDERSTANDING FOR ITSELF.
[Apparent Refusal of Shepherds to Act as Such - "Bishops and other ordinaries should remember that they are shepherds... and that they must so rule over their subjects as not to dominate over them but to love them as sons and brothers; they should endeavor by exhortation and admonition to deter them from wrongdoing lest they be obliged to administer due punishment after the faults have been committed." (Council of Trent)]
OUR POPES AND OUR BISHOPS HAVE SHEPHERDED US. BUT THE SSPX HAVE NOT SHEPHERDED THE FLOCK BUT THE WOLVES BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF JURISDICTION. THEIR HALLUCINATORY JURISDICTION ENVISIONED BY TISSIER DE MALLERAIS IS A MERE PRODUCT OF HIS IMAGINATION WHICH IS NOT FOUNDED IN REALITY BUT IN LEFEBVRIC LUNACY.
OUR FAITH AND MORALS HAVE BEEN PROTECTED AND DEFENDED BY OUR POPES AND BISHOPS WHILE THE SSPX ARE DOING NOTHING BUT TO ATTACK THE CANONICAL AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH. WHILE OUR SHEPHERDS WERE BEING HIT FRONTALLY THE SSPX ARE HITTING US FROM BEHIND WHICH MAKES IT MORE DANGEROUS AND VILLAINOUS.
[Apparent forgetfulness on part of shepherds that their primary job is to save souls - "Now priests seem to think their job is to make us feel better about ourselves or to act as psychiatrists"]
THIS IDEA IS NOT NEW. THIS IS TAKEN FROM THE FICTIONAL NOVEL TITLED "THE EXORCIST". THESE SSPX ARE BUNCH OF IDIOTS. INSTEAD OF BEING HAPPY THAT THE PRIESTS ARE AIDED BY THE NEW DISCOVERIES OF PSYCHOLOGY THEY CONSIDER IT AS DETRIMENT TO THE EXERCISE OF GENUINE PRIESTLY MINISTRY. SINCE THEY ARE FOUNDED BY A FOOL THEY HATE PSYCHOLOGY.
OUR PRIESTS ARE PRIESTS WHO ARE EQUIPPED WITH THEOLOGICAL, SPIRITUAL AND EVEN PSYCHOLOGICAL FORMATION TO BE ABLE TO SHEPHERD THE FLOCK BETTER. THE SSPX PRIESTS ARE IGNORANT OF PSYCHOLOGY BECAUSE OF THEIR DISTORTED MENTALITY. FOR THAT REASON IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT THEIR REASONING ARE NOT ONLY ILLOGICAL BUT ALSO PSYCHOLOGICALLY UNSTABLE LIKE THAT OF LEFEBVRE. IF THE ROOT IS ROTTEN, THE FRUITS ARE ROTTEN AS WELL. NO WONDER.
[Frequent Distortion / Corruption of the Concept of Love / Charity]
ReplyDeleteWE DIDN'T CORRUPT IT. IT SO HAPPENED THAT THE SSPX ARE LACKING OF THE VIRTUES OF LOVE AND CHARITY SO THAT THEY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THEM ACQUIRED BY THE CHURCH BY THE GRACE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
[Apparent Changed Outlook on Death Penalty - Contrary to what has always been held in the Church, the post-conciliar Church appears to condemn the concept of the death penalty for those guilty of certain grave crimes]
HA HA HA... NOW THE DIE HAS BEEN CAST. SO, THE SSPX ARE REALLY THIRSTING FOR BLOOD OF CRIMINALS. YOU WANT TO CAST THE STONE OF DEATH ON CRIMINALS TO SATISFY THE DEMON WITHIN YOU. YOU WANT A MODERN VERSION OF THE MOSAIC LAW AND NOT THE NEW COVENANT OF CHRIST WHICH IS MERCIFUL TOWARDS THE SINNER.
OUR SAVIOR IS MERCIFUL AND KIND. YOURS IS DEMONIC AND EVIL AND CRUEL. THANKS BE TO GOD FOR GIVING US A CHURCH THAT IS MERCIFUL AND KIND NOT AS BLOOD THIRSTY AS THESE SSPX TRAITORS.
TO BE A TRAITOR TO THE POPE IS TO BE A TRAITOR TO THE REDEEMER AS WELL.
[Changed Treatment Regarding Those Who Commit Suicide - Since the Second Vatican Council, it is commonly assumed that persons who take their own life are not responsible for their actions.]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. WHERE DID THE CHURCH SAYS THIS? THE CHURCH CONSIDERS THOSE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS. HOWEVER, THE LATEST FINDINGS OF SCIENCE SHOW THAT THOSE WHO SURVIVED WERE HAVING CHANGE OF HEART AND WERE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS WHILE ON THE DANGER OF DEATH AND SOME OF THEM WERE OUT OF THEIR OWN MIND WHEN THEY DID SO. THE CHURCH TOOK THESE REALITIES INTO CONSIDERATION AND DECIDED TO PRAY FOR THE SOUL OF THOSE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE. ULTIMATELY IT IS GOD WHO WILL JUDGE THAT SOUL. AT LEAST THE CHURCH PRAYED FOR THE SALVATION OF THE SOUL UNLIKE THE SSPX WHO DO NOT AND INSTEAD THEY CONDEMN IMMEDIATELY. THE SSPX IS TRULY HEARTLESS AND ANIMALISTIC IN THEIR PERSPECTIVE. VERY BARBARIAN.
[While this may make the survivors feel better, it shows great forgetfulness that such an action is objectively a grave sin against God (the unlawful taking of one's life, the sin of despair, etc.).]
SUICIDE IS A GRAVE SIN AGAINST GOD AND THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS VERY CLEAR ON THAT. WE DO NOT TEACH THAT SUICIDE IS NOT A GRAVE SIN BUT OUR CHURCH SIMPLY RULED THAT EVEN THOSE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE DESERVES THE PRAYER AND INTERCESSIONS OF THE CHURCH ESPECIALLY THE HOLY MASS. BECAUSE WE ARE AFTER THE SALVATION OF SOULS. UNLIKE THE SSPX WHO ARE HYPOCRITES. THEY CLAIM TO BE AFTER THE SALVATION OF SOULS YET THEY HATE PRAYING FOR THOSE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE AND THEY WANT THE IMMEDIATE BLOOD OF THE CRIMINALS.
[It also tends to ignore the fact that the Church holds that one who is guilty of an unrepented mortal sin will suffer eternal damnation.]
IDIOT. THERE ARE ELEMENTS TO BE PRESENT IN MORTAL SIN. HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT THOSE WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE HAVE MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS? HAVE YOU INTERROGATED THEM? HAVE YOU EXAMINED THEIR CONSCIENCE? YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN YOUR VIRTUE OF HOPE - THAT AS CHRISTIANS WE HOPE FOR THE SALVATION OF THE SOUL. IN CASE OF DOUBT, PRESUMPTION IS ON THE SIDE OF THE GOOD. IN CASE OF DOUBT THE PERSON MUST BE GIVEN PRAYERS AND INTERCESSIONS. IF THE SOUL WENT TO HELL THE PRAYER OF THE CHURCH WILL NOT BE UNREWARDED.
[ Further, it does not discourage others from taking an action which may lead to their eternal damnation.]
IDIOT. WE DISCOURAGE THEM. THAT IS WHY WE ARE TEACHING THEM THAT SUICIDE IS A GRAVE ERROR AND IS SINFUL. WHAT WE ARE DOING ARE NOT ACTS OF ENCOURAGEMENT OF SUICIDE BUT PRAYERS FOR THE DEAD. ONLY FOOLS WILL CLAIM THAT PRAYERS FOR THE DEAD SHALL ENCOURAGE SUICIDE. PROVE IT IF YOU DISAGREE.
[Increased Democracy in the Church - Note, of course, that democracy is contrary to the Church's hierarchical nature, as established by Christ]
ReplyDeleteHYPOCRITE. YOU REJECTED THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS SO YOU ARE THE ONES WHO PRACTICED THAT DISTORTED CONCEPT OF DEMOCRACY. IT BOOMERANGS ON YOU.
THE HIERARCHICAL NATURE OF THE CHURCH IS NOT OPPOSE TO DEMOCRACY. NO, NO, NO... IF THE FAITHFUL WILL CHOOSE TO LOVE AND OBEY AND SUBMIT TO AUTHORITY THEN THE HIERARCHY AND DEMOCRACY GO HAND IN HAND. IN SSPX THERE IS IMPOSED DEMOCRACY AND REJECTION OF HIERARCHY.
[PART III: SUMMARY OF CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II]
ReplyDeleteLET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE AGAIN.
[Shift in Emphasis From Truths to Feelings]
IT WAS LEFEBVRE WHO BECAUSE OF SENILITY ALLOWED HIMSELF TO ACT BASED ON FEELINGS RATHER THAN ON REASON. HE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE WISDOM OF CARDINAL OTTAVIANI, CARD. BACCI, CARD. WYSZYNSKI AND CARD. SANTOS WHO REMAINED FAITHFUL TO THE POPE AFTER SEEING THAT WHAT HAD BEEN CHANGED ARE REALLY CHANGEABLE.
NO IOTA OF CATHOLIC TRUTH HAS BEEN CHANGED. THE FAITH IS ONE AND THE SAME BUT THE SSPX ARE TOO BLIND TO REALIZE THAT.
[Apparent Exchange of Certainty for Relativism]
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE CHAMPION OF CERTITUDE OF KNOWLEDGE OVER RELATIVISM AND BLESSED POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND CARDINAL RATZINGER ARE THE BEST DEFENDER OF OBJECTIVITY OF TRUTH OVER RELATIVISM. LEFEVBRE IS A USELESS THINKER SIMILAR TO THE INTELLECTUALLY IMPOTENT WILLIAMSON AND FELLAY... JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND RATZINGER ARE THE ONES WHO ENGAGED THE WORLD IN A LONG DECADES OF DEBATE ON PHILOSOPHICAL LEVEL SHOWING THE SPLENDOR OF TRUTH OVER RELATIVISM. NOT LEFEBVRE, NOT WILLIAMSON, NOT FELLAY AND NOT DE MALLERAIS. NO, NO, NO... DREAM ON.
WHETHER IN MORALS OR ETHICS OR IN THEOLOGY OR SPIRITUALITY OUR POPES ARE THE SHINING CHAMPIONS OF ORTHODOXY NOT YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL FOUNDER, MARCEL LEFEBVRE.
[New Bible Translations - New translations of Holy Scripture have been approved which "give the Church's enemies much to be thankful for". In addition to "watering down" passages relating to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the new translations may also be criticized for certain footnotes, headers, questionable translation choices, inclusive language, "heterodox tendencies", "linguistic imprecision", etc. In fact, in one well-known, widely-used translation, the word "hell" is completely excluded.]
IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT THE TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE INTO MODERN LANGUAGES USING THE LATEST MEANS OF SCHOLARSHIP AND ARCHEOLOGY WAS INITIATED BY POPE PIUS XII IN DIVINO AFFLANTU SPIRITU.
IF YOU WANT TO REJECT NEW BIBLICAL SCHOLARSHIPS AND NEW TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE THEN JUST USE THE ORIGINAL GREEK. EVEN THE VULGATE WAS A MERE TRANSLATION WHICH WAS LATER EDITED AND RE-EDITED CENTURIES BEFORE VATICAN II.
MUCH MORE, YOU ARE ONLY PROVING THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT OF CATHOLIC THEOLOGY AND PROTESTANT THEOLOGY. BECAUSE AS A CATHOLIC APOLOGIST I'VE BEEN USING THOSE MODERN TRANSLATIONS AS WEAPONS TO DEBATE AND DEFEAT AND TO SHAME THE PROTESTANTS. INSTEAD OF BEING A CRYING BABY LIKE YOU AND YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE I CHOSE TO FIGHT THE ENEMIES OF THE FAITH IN UNION WITH MY POPE AND BISHOP. THOSE BIBLES ARE CATHOLICS AS LONG AS THEY ARE GIVEN THE IMPRIMATUR AND NIHIL OBSTAT AND THE CENSOR DEPUTATIS SIGNATURES OR IN SHORT, OFFICIAL RECOGNITION.
THE PROBLEM WITH YOU IS THAT YOU DO NOT LOOK AT THE GOOD THINGS. YOU FIND EVIL EVEN ON THINGS THAT ARE GOOD. YOU ARE POISONED BY LEFEBVRE LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE SEE OF PETER.
[Changed Architecture - In contrast to the splendor of Solomon's temple and to the beautiful, holy and inspiring Catholic churches of times past, many modern churches are plain, functional, barren, and even ugly.]
ReplyDeleteTHERE WERE ALSO UGLY AND SIMPLY CHURCHES PRIOR TO VATICAN II. THE CATHEDRALS AND THE GREAT CHAPELS AND THE BASILICAS WERE BEAUTIFUL BUT THE REST WERE SIMPLE ONLY. THE SAME THING NOW. THE GREAT CATHEDRALS AND BASILICAS ARE BEAUTIFUL BUT THE POOR CHURCHES OF POOR PEOPLE ARE SIMPLE. BESIDES, YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE FACT THAT SIMPLICITY IS BEAUTY. YOUR CONCEPT OF BEAUTY IS POMPOUS AND EXTRAVAGANT WHICH IS MATERIALISTIC AND THEREFORE MODERNIST.
THE SIMPLICITY OF OUR CHURCHES IS PATTERNED AFTER THE CHURCH BUILT BY THE HAND OF ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI. SIMPLE BUT BEAUTIFUL. AND IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE, ST. FRANCIS IS A PRE-VATICAN II SAINT.
[Before, they gave honor to God and "instructed and raised the heart and mind to God". Nowadays, churches tend to be egalitarian and often fail to achieve the lifting of one's heart and mind to God.]
IF YOUR HEART AND MIND ARE NOT LIFTED DON'T BLAME THE CHURCHES BLAME YOURSELF. BLAME YOUR MIND AND HEART. IT IS YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEART THAT IS INEFFECTIVE. I GREW UP IN A VERY POOR PLACE AND OUR CHURCH WAS SMALL AND BEREFT OF ELEGANCE AND GRANDEUR BUT WE WERE HAVING STRONG FAITH IN GOD. THE DEFECT IS IN YOUR SOUL NOT IN ARCHITECTURE.
[Shift From Individual Responsibility to Community Responsibility / Near Elimination of Personal Responsibility]
HA HA HA... THIS ONE IS MORE HALLUCINATORY RATHER THAN REAL. ONLY IDIOTS WILL BELIEVE THIS ONE. SIMPLE READING OF THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL DISPEL THIS STUPID CLAIM. THIS GUY MUST BE IGNORANT OF THE BASIC CATHOLIC TEACHING THAT "GOD WILL JUDGE US INDIVIDUALLY AND PERSONALLY" AND IT IS CHRISTIAN DUTY TO LIVE THE FAITH PERSONALLY AND COMMUNALLY. ONLY FOOLS WILL SAY OTHERWISE.
[Less Emphasis on the Value and Necessity of Suffering]
HA HA HA... THE THEOLOGY OF THE CROSS IS WELL DEVELOPED BY OUR POPES AND THEOLOGIANS. BUT THE SSPX THEOLOGIANS HAVE NOT PRODUCED BOOKS AND MANUALS OF THIS KIND BECAUSE THEY ARE BEREFT OF THEOLOGICAL INSIGHTS AND INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY.
[New Canonization Procedures - The numerous changes have led to an unprecedented number of canonizations,]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... IDIOT. THE NUMBER OF CANONIZATIONS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE MARTYRED DURING THE SPANISH REVOLUTION AND THE COMMUNISTS DOMINATION. IF THERE ARE CHANGES IN THE PROCEDURES, WE GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR THAT. BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PROCEDURES WERE EXCESSIVE ALREADY.
IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF CHURCH HISTORY YOU WILL KNOW THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO PROCESS OF CANONIZATION AND BEATIFICATION. STS. FRANCIS AND DOMINIC WERE CANONIZED VOX POPULI. SAME FOR ST. BENEDICT AND OTHERS OF THEIR CONTEMPORARIES. SO IF THE POPE WILL REMOVE ENTIRELY THE PROCESS OF BEATIFICATION AND CANONIZATION IT IS STILL IN ACCORD WITH THE SACRED TRADITION.
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE PROCESS OF CANONIZATION MUST NOT BE CHANGED?
[and have also led some of the faithful to express concern over various aspects of the new procedures [e.g. elimination of the "devil's advocate",]
HA HA HA... WHY? DO THE SSPX MISS THE PRESENCE OF THE DEVIL? WELL, ACTUALLY YOU REPRESENT THE DEVIL ALREADY BY YOUR ATTACKS AGAINST THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS. YOU ARE SO IN-LOVED WITH THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE WHICH ONLY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE SO FOND OF THE DEVIL.
[reduction of the waiting period (allowing the process to be conducted while 'emotions are high'),]
FIVE YEARS IS NOT A VERY SHORT WAITING PERIOD. IT IS VERY LONG. BESIDES IF YOU WILL WAIT MANY YEARS MORE SOME OF THE VITAL WITNESSES COULD BE DEAD ALREADY WHICH LED TO LOSS OF VALUABLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CANDIDATE FOR SAINTHOOD.
IF YOUR EMOTIONS ARE HIGH DON'T SPEAK FOR US BECAUSE OUR EMOTIONS ARE NOT THE SAME AS YOURS. FROM THE DEATH OF OUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEADER, LEFEBVRE, UNTIL NOW NO EMETIONS WERE HIGH FOR HIS CANONIZATION. HE WAS ALWAYS REGARDED AS REBELLIOUS FOOL EXCEPT OF FEW HANDFUL LUNATICS WHO FORM HIS POPELESS SOCIETY.
[loosening of procedures,]
IT WAS REVISED BUT NOT LOOSENED. IT IS AS STRICT AS EVER BUT LESS EXPENSIVE.
[reduction in the number of required miracles,]
THE VALUE OF MIRACLES DOES NOT DEPEND ON NUMERICAL CRITERION BUT ON ITS VALIDITY AND SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE.
[concerns over conflicts of interest,]
NO SAINT HAS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE CHURCH BECAUSE THEY ARE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE CHURCH. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST THEN MAMA MARY, ST. JOSEPH, ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST, ST. ELIZABETH, STS. JOACHIM AND ANN COULD BE QUESTIONED BECAUSE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE LORD JESUS.
HOW ABOUT THE DOMINICAN, JESUIT, BENEDICTINE SAINTS? THEY BECAME SAINTS DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY OF THEIR CONFRERES WORKING IN THE HOLY SEE OR IN THE PROMINENT POSITIONS IN THE CHURCH. DO YOU APPLY CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THEM?
[concerns over the elimination of unfavorable witnesses deemed "unsuitable",]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... SAYS WHO? THOSE WITNESSES WERE DEEMED UNSUITABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE UNSUITABLE. AS IF YOUR DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DIDN'T DO SUCH A THING IN MORE NUMEROUS INSTANCES PRIOR TO VATICAN II. EXCUSE ME. YOU CAN DECEIVE OTHERS WITH THAT LIE BUT NOT HERE. WE ARE NOT BORN YESTERDAY.
[concerns over "political correctness" in the canonization process,]
EXCUSE ME. WHO AMONG OUR NEWLY CANONIZED SAINT WAS CANONIZED FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS? WHO? NAME NAMES. IN FACT PRIOR TO VATICAN II MOST OF THE SAINTS WERE COMING ONLY FROM THE RICH COUNTRIES OR THOSE CLOSER TO THE HOLY SEE: ITALY, SPAIN, FRANCE. SO IF YOU STUPIDLY CLAIM POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IT WILL BACKFIRE ON YOU. BECAUSE THE HOLY SEE BEFORE VATICAN II WAS SO ENAMORED BY POLITICAL POWER TO THE POINT THAT YOUR PRE-VATICAN II POPES CHOSE TO BE PRISONERS OF THE VATICAN DUE TO THE LOSS OF PAPAL ESTATES. POPE PAUL VI AND POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT OPPOSED THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE UNITED STATES AND THE POWERS OF EUROPE ON MORAL MATTERS. THE SAME THING FOR POPE BENEDICT XVI WHO SHOWED HIS COURAGE BY SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM. BUT LEFEBVRE WAS A CERTIFIED COWARD. WILLIAMSON SPOKE IN FAVOR OF HITLER. HA HA HA..
YOUR ANIMAL BISHOP SPOKE IN FAVOR OF HITLER. SO, YOU LOVED THAT. YOU LOVE HIS PRO-HITLER AND ANTI-JEWISH STATEMENTS DON'T YOU? HA HA HA... THAT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT FOR YOU. HA HA HA... SHAME ON YOU SSPX.
[concern that the process may not prevent factual errors,]
ONLY IN HEAVEN WILL FACTUAL ERRORS BE TOTALLY ELIMINATED. WHAT IS CERTAIN THOUGH IS THAT THERE IS NO THEOLOGICAL AND DOCTRINAL AND SPIRITUAL ERROR IN EVERY BEATIFICATION AND CANONIZATION. THE POPE IS INFALLIBLE IN CANONIZATION. BY CANONIZING HE IS OPENING THE GATE OF HEAVEN USING THE POWER OF THE KEYS.
[concern that the process has become politicized (e.g. using canonization to advance certain causes),]
O NO, NO, NO... THIS IS PLAIN STUPID AND LIE. WHO AMONG THE NEWLY CANONIZED SAINT WAS RAISED TO THE HONOR OF THE ALTAR DUE TO POLITICAL CAUSES?
[concern over lost confidence in the process,]
HA HA HA... ONLY AMONG THE SSPX WHO ARE NOT EVEN .001 IN THE CHURCH. THE FACT THAT BEATIFICATIONS AND CANONIZATIONS ARE SO WELL ATTENDED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SHOWED THAT THE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS. ONLY THE FOOLS LIKE YOU HAVE LOST CONFIDENCE IN THEM BECAUSE YOU LOST CONFIDENCE IN THE POPE. ACTUALLY IT IS THE SSPX WHO HAS LOST ALL AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION.
[concerns regarding the reduced role of the pope, and even some concern regarding the infallible nature of canonizations, etc.]
HA HA HA... ONLY FOOLS WILL CLAIM SUCH A THING. BESIDES THE DECISION OF THE POPE TO ALLOW CARDINALS TO PRESIDE IN BEATIFICATION IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTED BY TRADITION.
[Altered Devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary & the Saints]
ReplyDeleteLIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE DEVOTIONS TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN WAS NOT ALTERED BUT IMPROVED AND DEEPENED. IT HAS BEEN ENRICHED BY THE POPE.
[Changes Which Give the Impression That Traditions & Dogmas May be Open to Compromise]
THIS IS MORE AN SSPX HALLUCINATIONS. THE DOGMAS CANNOT BE CHANGED. IT WAS SETTLED BY BLESSED POPE JOHN XXIII IN THE COUNCIL AND EVEN PRIOR. THE DOGMAS ARE PRESERVED IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[Changes Which May Imply a False "Absolute Equality" of Sexes]
IDIOT. THIS IS ALREADY SETTLED BY POPE PAUL VI WHO REFUSED TO ORDAIN WOMEN AND FOLLOWED BY JOHN PAUL THE GREAT. THIS IS CLEAR IN MULIERIS DIGNITATEM AND INTER INSIGNIORES AND IN CCC.
[Changed Vocabulary / Terminology (Often Ambiguous, Less Precise) - For example, rather than refer to the Church as the Catholic Church or Catholics as Catholics, they may simply be referred to by the generic term "People of God"]
IDIOT. EVERY MASS AND ROSARIES WHAT IS BEING DECLARED IS: "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"... THAT TERM "PEOPLE OF GOD" IS A THEOLOGICAL TERM THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND BETTER THE BIBLICAL CONCEPT OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD BUT IT DIDN'T REPLACE THE OFFICIAL NAME: THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE CHURCH HAS BEEN REPLACED?
[Frequent Surrender in the Face of Pressure]
WE DO NOT SURRENDER AMIDST PRESSURE. IN FACT, WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THIS WORLD. THE POPES FOUGHT WITH COURAGE AGAINST THE POWERS OF THIS WORLD. IT IS LEFEBVRE AND THE SSPX AND SUCCUMB TO THE SEDUCTIONS OF SATAN TO REBEL AGAINST THE POPE.
[Heterodox Teachers / Prelates Frequently Tolerated -"It is a miserable time when a man's Catholic profession is no voucher for his orthodoxy, and when a teacher of religion may be within the Church's pale, yet external to her faith." (Cardinal Newman)]
ReplyDeleteWHEN CONFRONTED BY THIS EVIL, CARDINAL NEWMAN OFFERED SOLUTION: "UNITY WITH THE VICAR OF CHRIST". EVERY TIME THE CHURCH IS CONFRONTED BY CRISES OF SUCH KIND THE FIRST SOLUTION IS UNITY WITH THE VICAR OF CHRIST. INSTEAD, THE SSPX CHOSE THE WAY OF SATAN: FIGHT AND OPPOSE THE VICAR OF CHRIST. SHAME ON YOU SSPX.
[Over-emphasis on Human Dignity]
ITS NOT OVER EMPHASIS BUT THE SSPX LACKS UNDERSTANDING OF HUMAN DIGNITY. BECAUSE IT OPERATES WITH THE MINDSET AND TIME-FRAME SUITED WHEN THE WORLD WAS STILL IMPLEMENTING SLAVERY AND DEATH PENALTY. THAT IS WHY THE SSPX IS CRUEL, HEARTLESS AND ANGRY AT THE CONCEPT OF THE GOD AND CHURCH WHO ARE MERCIFUL AND CHARITABLE.
[Widespread Lack of Awareness of One's Own Sinfulness]
WE ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE SINFUL. BUT THE SSPX ARE SO ARROGANT THAT THEY THINK ALL SINFULLNESS ARE PRESENT AMONG US BUT ABSENT IN THEIRS. YOU HYPOCRITES, REMOVED FIRST THE PLANK IN YOUR EYES.
[Apparent Forgetfulness of the Reality of Evil]
WE ARE REMINDED OF IT DAILY WHEN WE RECITE THE OUR FATHER IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE. IT IS VERY VERY PLAIN - THE REALITY OF EVIL. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU RECITE IT IN LATIN - A LANGUAGE WHEREIN ALMOST ALL OF YOU ARE IGNORANT OF.
[Toleration of Actions Which Tend to Threaten the Indissolubility of Marriage (e.g. unprecedented number of annulments)]
IDIOT. WE ARE THE ONES FIGHTING AGAINST DIVORCE NOT THE SSPX WHO ARE DOING NOTHING BUT SCRATCHING THEIR BALLS INSIDE THEIR GOLDEN ROMAN CHASUBLES AND GREAT PHYLACTERIES.
[PART IV: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteReduction in Demands Made of Catholics - "Relaxing of rules teaches that duties can be eliminated when they prove difficult, it also results in the relaxing of the will, and provides no checking of natural impulses". According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "]
ANOTHER STUPID CLAIM. CARDINAL WYSZNSKI REFUTES THIS ERROR BUT HE DIDN'T ATTRIBUTE IT TO THE POPE AND THE CHURCH. CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI REMAINED LOYAL TO THE POPE. CLAIMING CARDINAL WYSZINSKI TO SUPPORT THE SSPX IS AN ACT OF DESPERATION OF THE SSPX. THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF ARGUMENTS AND SO THEY ARE USING THE FAITHFUL CARDINALS TO ADVANCE THEIR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE.
WHERE DID CARD. WYSZYNSKI STATED THEREIN THAT RULES CANNOT BE CHANGED BY THE POPE?
[[The post-conciliar Church] is reducing its demands and no longer resolving problems in accordance with the will of God, but in accordance with man's natural capacities".]
HA HA HA... REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE SEE OF PETER ESTABLSIHED PERSONALLY BY JESUS IS CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD. THAT IS VERY CLEAR AND FOR THAT THE SSPX VIOLATED AND HAVE REBELLED AGAINST THE CHURCH AND THE LORD GOD. REVISING THE RULES OF THE CHURCH IS NOT AGAINST THE WILL OF GOD. IT IS THE SSPX THAT VIOLATES THE WILL OF GOD.
[Revolutionary New, Protestantized Liturgies -]
IDIOT. THE TRUE PROTESTANTS HATE THE NOVUS ORDO MASS. THE SSPX HATES THE NOVUS ORDO MASS. IT SHOWS THAT BOTH THE PROTESTANTS AND THE SSPX ARE POSSESSED BY THE SAME DEMON OF REBELLION AGAINST THE CHURCH AND THE POPE.
MAX THURIAN, BRO. ROGER OF TAIZE BECAME CATHOLICS BECAUSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. DR. SCOTT HAHN, STEVE RAY, MARCUS GRODI, JIMMY AKIN AND THOUSANDS MORE BECAME CATHOLICS BECAUSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. BUT THE SSPX HOW MANY CONVERTS DID THEY GOT? ALMOST ZERO IF THERE IS ONE. THE SSPX IS VERY PROTESTANT... THEY PROTEST AGAINST THE POPE. LUCIFER = LUTHER = LEFEBVRE... MUTATIS MUTANDIS.
["With all due respect, some Catholic churches have become Protestant churches or community halls." (Msgr. Campell) Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci have even stated that "To prepare a complete study of all the pitfalls, dangers and psychologically and spiritually destructive elements the new rite contains, whether in texts, rubrics or instructions, would be a vast undertaking."]
IDIOTIC INTERPRETATION. CARDINAL OTTAVIANI AND BACCI LIVED AND DIED IN COMMUNION WITH THE POPE. THEY WERE NOT DECEIVED BY THE STUPIDITIES AND LIES OF LEFEBVRE.
[Changed Ordination Rite -]
SO WHAT. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE RITE OF ORDINATION CANNOT BE CHANGED? ACTUALLY IT WAS NOT CHANGED BUT SIMPLY REVISED AND SIMPLIFIED. THANK GOD FOR THAT.
[According to Davies,]
DAVIES WHO? WHO IS THE ANIMAL? WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE AN OPINION. THE OFFICIAL VOICE OF THE CHURCH IS THE POPE.
[the ordination rite "has been Protestantized even more thoroughly than the New Mass".]
STUPID. THE PROTESTANTS DO NOT HAVE MINISTERIAL PRIESTHOOD SO WHAT PROTESTANTIZED RITE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE REVISED RITE OF ORDINATION IS AS CATHOLIC AS THE NEW MASS AND THE OLD RITES AND THE OLD MASSES WHO WERE ONCE NEW LIKE THE TLM WHICH WAS NEW DURING THE 16TH CENTURY.
[He says that, "[E]very prayer in the traditional rite which stated specifically the essential role of a priest as a man ordained to offer propitiatory sacrifice for the living and dead has been removed. In most cases these were the precise prayers removed by the Protestant Reformers, or if not precisely the same there are clear parallels."]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THE PRAYERS ARE SIMPLIFIED BUT ALL ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS ARE THERE. THE PROTESTANTS REMOVED THE SACRAMENT OF THE HOLY ORDER NOT JUST PART OF THE PRAYER.
[Changed Baptisms -]
ReplyDeleteO NO, NO, NO... BAPTISM WAS NOT CHANGED. IT WAS THE RITE OF BAPTISM THAT WAS REVISED AND SIMPLIFIED.
[According to Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome:]
FR. GABRIELE AMORTH IS NOT THE CHIEF EXORCIST IN ROME. THERE IS NO SUCH TITLE OR POSITION IN ROME. THE CHIEF EXORCIST IN ROME IS THE POPE WHO IS THE BISHOP OF ROME. THE POPE IS ALSO THE CHIEF EXORCIST OF THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH.
["the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. [Pope] Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite."]
THAT IS JUST AN OPINION. FR. AMORTH IS A PROMINENT EXORCIST IN ROME BUT HE IS NOT THE HEAD OF THE LITURGICAL EXPERTS. HIS OPINION IS NICE BUT IT DOES NOT INVALIDATE THE BAPTISM IN THE CHURCH. THE ACT AND FORMULA OF BAPTISM WITH WATER ALONE IS ENOUGH FOR A VALID SACRAMENT AND FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE ORIGINAL SIN AND TO EXORCISE THE INFLUENCE OF SATAN FROM THE NEWLY BAPTIZED.
[Changed Rites for Other Sacraments - Many of these changes have been drastic]
IT WAS A REVISION THAT IS CALLED FOR AND NECESSARY WITHOUT DIMINISHING THE VALIDITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SACRAMENTS. YOU CAN CRY YOUR HEART OUT TO NO AVAIL BUT THE REVISION IS DONE PROPERLY AND CORRECTLY.
[Elimination of Explicitly Sacrificial Prayers in Mass - This change is quote troublesome as it parallels the changes made by the Protestant 'Reformers' in the 16th century.]
ONLY LIARS WILL CLAIM THIS BECAUSE THE SACRIFICIAL NATURE OF THE MASS IS REPEATEDLY AND CATEGORICALLY MENTIONED IN THE PAULINE MASS. DREAM ON. THE REFORMERS REMOVED THE MASS NOT THE SACRIFICIAL NATURE OF THE MASS.
[Changed Cycle of Readings For Mass - The new cycle is based on a 2-3 year cycle of readings rather than a one year cycle (which means that the same readings may take up to three years to reappear, thereby reducing retention)]
ReplyDeleteIDIOT. THE BIBLICAL READINGS IN ONE CYCLE OF TLM DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE BIBLE UNLIKE THE THREE YEAR CYCLE THAT COVERS ALMOST THE ENTIRE BIBLE. THE NEW CYCLE OF READINGS HAVE MORE BIBLICAL TREASURES TO OFFER WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND READING AND RESPONSORIAL PSALM.
[Abolition of Black Vestments]
BECAUSE BLACK VESTMENTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS. WE ARE CHILDREN OF LIGHT NOT OF DARKNESS LIKE THE SSPX WHO ARE IN LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE. THE SSPX PRIESTS LOOK LIKE ALWAYS CELEBRATING THE BLACK MASS IN WORSHIP OF SATAN.
[Loss of Minor Orders]
IDIOT. THE MINOR ORDERS ARE NOT LOSS. THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MAJOR ORDERS.
[Changed Altars - Marble altars have been replaced by wooden tables]
BECAUSE MARBLES ARE EXPENSIVE NOWADAYS. EVEN THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WAS MADE OF WOOD PRIMARILY SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? THOSE WHO ARE FROM RICH COUNTRIES OR PLACES STILL HAVE MARBLE ALTARS IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE FACT.
["Demotion" of the Altar - The altar, which represents Christ, in many new (or "wreckovated") churches, rather than being elevated above the laity, may now be on the same level as - or even lower than - the laity]
HA HA HA... THIS IS STUPID. THIS SSPX IS IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT WHEN JESUS WAS HERE ON EARTH HE WALKED ON THE SAME GROUND WITH THE PEOPLE. BESIDES, THE BLESSED SACRAMENT IS ABOVE ALL EVEN IF IT IS PUT IN TABERNACLE ON SAME LEVEL WITH THE PEOPLE.
BUT IN FACT THE ACCUSATION IS NOT TRUE. THE LOW LEVEL BLESSED SACRAMENT IS ONL FOR THOSE SMALL CHURCHES WHOSE ALTAR IS LOW. BUT ALMOST ALL CHURCHES PUT THE BLESSED SACRAMENT A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE ALTAR.
["Demotion" of the Tabernacle - Often, the Tabernacle has been removed from the altar and has even been moved outside the Church (e.g. into a chapel). As Pope Pius XII said, "To separate the Tabernacle from the Altar is tantamount to separating two things which, of their very nature, must remain together."]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... WHAT IS PUT OUTSIDE IS A SPECIAL ALTAR FOR THE WORSHIP OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT DAY AND NIGHT. BUT INSIDE THE CHURCHES THERE ARE STILL BLESSED SACRAMENTS FOR WORSHIP ALSO AND FOR HOLY COMMUNION.
VEN. POPE PIUS XII IS RIGHT AND WE ARE RIGHT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEPARATE THE ALTAR AND THE BLESSED SACRAMENT. INSTEAD, WE BUILD ANOTHER ALTAR WITH REPOSITORY OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT FOR DAILY ADORATION AND WORSHIP. THE SEPARATION IS ON THE MIND OF THE SSPX WHO SATANICALLY SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM THE HOLY SEE.
[Communion Under Both Species - This practice has led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity. This practice as was "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority".]
HA HA HA... WHAT A HYPOCRISY. A VERY PHARISAICAL STATEMENT FROM THE SSPX REBELS. HA HA HA...
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT COMMUNION UNDER BOTH SPECIES IS WRONG OR EVIL? WHO? THIS IS RARELY DONE AND IF THIS IS PERMITTED BY THE CHURCH THEN IT IS OK. THERE IS NO SACRILEGE IN IT BECAUSE THE WORSHIPPERS RECEIVE THEM WITH RESPECT.
[PART V: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteIntroduction of Vernacular Language - With the adoption of the vernacular, the church loses control, she loses her universality,]
HA HA HA... LATIN WAS A VERNACULAR LANGUAGE AND NOT ONLY A VERNACULAR LANGUAGE BUT A VULGAR LANGUAGE. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT BY WORSHIPPING GOD IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES THE CHURCH LOOSES HER UNIVERSALITY AND CONTROL? EVEN THE HOLY SPIRIT RESPECTED THE VARIOUS LANGUAGES OF THE PEOPLE DURING PENTECOST. THEY HEARD THE APOSTLES SPEAKING IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. LOOK CLOSELY AT THE DOUAY-RHEIMS BIBLE:
Act 2:7-8 And they were all amazed, and wondered, saying: Behold, are not all these that speak Galilean? And how have we heard, every man our own tongue wherein we were born?
Act 2:9-10 Parthians and Medes and Elamites and inhabitants of Mesopotamia, Judea, and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome,
Act 2:11 Jews also, and proselytes, Cretes, and Arabians: we have heard them speak in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.
THE HOLY SPIRIT RESPECTED THE LANGUAGE OF EACH AND EVERY PERSON. AND POPE PAUL VI AND THE VATICAN II BISHOPS WERE FILLED WITH THE SAME SPIRIT. BUT THE SSPX IS FILLED BY THE CONTRARY spirit - THE MALEVOLENT SPIRIT OF REBELLION AND DEFIANCE.
[exchanging her prayers said in "one voice" to more closely resemble "the Tower of Babble".]
IDIOT. THE TOWER OF BABEL WAS BROUGHT BY DEFIANCE AND REBELLION AGAINST GOD WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING BEING DONE BY THE SSPX. THE ESSENCE OF BABEL WAS REBELLION AND NOT THE DIVERSITY OF LANGUAGE. THE SAME DIVERSITY OF LANGUAGE WAS PRESERVED AND RESPECTED IN PENTECOST BUT THE ESSENCE IS COMMUNION WITH GOD NOT REBELLION ANYMORE. THE SSPX IS ACCIDENTALLY UNITED BUT ESSENTIALLY IN REBELLION.
THE CHURCH HAS ONE VOICE BUT NOT ONE LANGUAGE. THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS MULTI-LANGUAGE. EVEN IN QUO PRIMUM THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS AND THERE WERE ALWAYS MASSES IN GREEK, COPTIC, SLAVONIC, LATIN, ETC. IN THE CHURCH PRIOR TO VATICAN II. ONLY LIARS CLAIM OTHERWISE. THE SSPX ARE LIARS IN CLAIMING THAT ONLY LATIN WAS THE LANGUAGE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PRIOR TO VATICAN II.
THIS IS THE MEANING BY THE CHURCH HAVING ONE VOICE ACCORDING TO ST. PAUL, AGAIN FROM DOUAY-RHEIMS:
Eph 4:3 Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
SEE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THERE IS UNITY. THE SSPX VIOLATED THAT UNITY BY BEING OUTSIDE THE COMMUNION WITH THE CHURCH OF ROME.
Eph 4:4 One body and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling.
THE SSPX IS OUTSIDE THAT ONE BODY AND THEREFORE NOT GOVERNED BY THE SAME SPIRIT OF GOD WHO RESPECTED ALL LANGUAGE. THE APOSTLES WERE HEARD SPEAKING NATIVE LANGUAGES BY THE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. ONLY IDIOTS WILL CLAIM THAT THE APOSTLES WERE HEARD SPEAKING ONE LANGUAGE WHICH WAS LATIN.
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all.
THERE IS NOTHING WRITTEN THERE "ONE LANGUAGE WHICH IS LATIN"... EXCUSE ME.
Eph 4:7 But to every one of us is given grace, according to the measure of the giving of Christ.
EACH ONE IS GIVEN GRACE AS GIVEN BY CHRIST AND ONE OF THOSE GRACES IS THE GIFT OF LANGUAGE WHICH WAS SANCTIFIED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. THE CHURCH PURIFIED LATIN AND SO SHE WILL ALSO PURIFY THE MODERN LANGUAGES.
THAT ONE FAITH IS WRITTEN IN GREEK RIGHT THERE AT THE ORIGINAL NEW TESTAMENT AND THE GREEK BIBLE DECLARES BY A ROMAN APOSTLE THAT THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE PRAISED BY EVERY TONGUE:
ReplyDeletePhil 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that the Lord Jesus Christ is in the glory of God the Father.
THAT 'EVERY TONGUE' SIGNIFIES ALSO EVERY LANGUAGE. GOD SHALL BE WORSHIPPED IN EACH AND EVERY TONGUE... IN EVERY LANGUAGE. EVEN THE BIBLICAL CONCEPT OF HEAVEN SPEAKS OF THAT RESPECT GIVEN TO EVERY TONGUE:
Rev 7:9 After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,
Rev 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;
SEE, THE DISTINCTION OF NATIONALITY, TRIBAL CHARACTERS AND OF LANGUAGE IS STILL EVIDENT EVEN IN HEAVEN. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE PAULINE MASS IS A MANIFESTATION OF HEAVEN ON EARTH. IT IS SO BIBLICAL AND SO BEAUTIFUL. UNLIKE THE TLM WHICH IS ONE NATION, ONE TRIBE, ONE CULTURE ONLY.
[Not only does the Church have to waste time, money, and effort on translations - which have proven to be faulty - her doctrine has suffered from lack of safeguards.]
IT IS GREATER WASTE OF TIME IF THE CHURCH WILL ONLY USE LATIN WHICH IS UNDERSTOOD ALMOST 99.999999 PERCENT BY THE CLERGY ALONE AND FEW SCHOLARS. IF THEY PRINT THE MISSALS AND MANUALS THEY HAVE PUT THE LATIN SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE TRANSLATIONS SO DOUBLE EXPENSES. IF THEY ARE IN LOCAL LANGUAGES THERE IS NO NEED FOR TRANSLATIONS.
AND IF THE NEW DOCUMENTS ARE WRITTEN IN MODERN LANGUAGES THEN THE TEXT IS ORIGINAL AND NOT A MERE TRANSLATION. THE GOD WHO PROTECTED THE CHURCH FROM THE VULGARITY OF LATIN WHICH WAS A PAGAN LANGUAGE SHALL BE THE SAME GOD THAT WILL PURIFY THE MODERN LANGUAGES FOR THE SAME CHURCH.
["As referring to the use of the vernacular in liturgical prayers - false, rash, disturbing the prescribed order of the celebration of the mysteries, and easily productive of many evils." (Pope Pius VI, "Auctorem Fidei", 1794 A.D.)]
THE POWER THAT BINDS IS THE SAME POWER THAT CAN LOOSES. IF THE POPE PROHIBITS SO BE IT BUT IF HE APPROVES THEN IT IS ALLOWED. THERE IS NO DOGMA THAT LATIN IS THE PERPETUAL LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH. THE POPE IS FREE TO RETAIN IT OR REPLACE IT AFTERWARD. THE SSPX STUPIDLY MADE LATIN A DOGMA EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT. THEY CLAIMED THAT THE VATICAN II IS NOT A DOGMATIC COUNCIL BUT PASTORAL. HOW ABOUT THE USE OF LATIN IS THAT A DOGMA? NO. IT IS ALSO FOR PASTORAL USE.
[Communion in the Hand - This practice has also led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity and was also "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority"]
ReplyDeleteIT IS THE SSPX WHICH IS REBELLIOUS TO AUTHORITY AND NOT THOSE WHO IMPLEMENT THE INDULT GIVEN BY THE HOLY SEE. THERE IS NO PROFANATION AND SACRILEGE IN COMMUNION BY THE HAND BECAUSE THAT HAND BELONGS TO A WORSHIPPER, BAPTIZED CATHOLIC FAITHFUL.
IF THE HAND OF THE BAPTIZED CATHOLIC IS UNWORTHY TO RECEIVE THE LORD THEN NEITHER HIS HAND NOR HIS TONGUE OR LIPS OR MOUTH IS WORTHY TO RECEIVE HIM. THE UNWORTHINESS OR WORTHINESS OF A FAITHFUL IS NOT LIMITED TO THE MOUTH OR TONGUE OR LIPS ONLY BUT TO THE ENTIRE BODY AND SOUL OF THAT PERSON.
[Reduced Eucharistic Fast]
IT IS NOT REDUCED BUT ONLY IMPOSED LESS WITH REGULATIONS. YOU CAN FAST TODAY IN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. FASTING IS ENCOURAGE AND TAUGHT BUT LESS REGULATED. IT IS THE REGULATIONS THAT WAS LESSENED BUT NOT THE FASTING ITSELF.
[Elimination of the Altar Rail - With the removal of the altar rail, not only are communicants encouraged to stand rather than kneel for Holy Communion, but its removal serves to blur the distinction between the sanctuary and the nave and between the priest and the faithful.]
THE COMMUNION RAIL IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE MASS. THE POPE WAS VERY KIND AND WISE TO REMOVE IT. ALL FAITHFUL CATHOLICS ARE KNEELING IN THE AGNUS DEI, THAT KNEELING IS ALREADY THE KNEELING FOR THE WORSHIP OF THE EUCHARIST SO THAT WHEN THEY STAND TO RECEIVE THE LORD IT WAS NOT DONE AVOIDING KNEELING BUT RATHER IT WAS AN ACT OF MEETING THE LORD AFTER KNEELING IN FRONT OF HIM.
["Impoverished" Liturgical Vestments]
IDIOT. IT IS NOT IMPOVERISHED BUT SIMPLIFED. SIMPLICITY IS BETTER THAN EXTRAVAGANCE AND POMPOSITY OF SSPX LITURGY.
[Possible Elimination of Relics in Altars - Prior to the Second Vatican Council, altars were required to contain relics. This may be traced back to the earliest days of Christianity when Christians (that is, Catholics), celebrated Masses on the tombs of saints. It also corresponds to Scripture, where we see the martyrs under the altar (See Rv. 6:9). After Vatican II, this practice may be optional.
THE GREATEST SACRAMENT OF ALL IS THE BODY AND BLOOD OF JESUS PRESENT ON THE ALTAR OF SACRIFICE. RELIC OR NO RELIC THE ALTAR TABLE IS A RELIC ON ITS OWN BECAUSE IT IS TOUCHED BY THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD DAILY THROUGH THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE MASS.
[Reduction in Altar Cloths]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE ALTAR CLOTHS MUST NOT BE REDUCED. IF THEY ARE REDUCED SO MUCH THE BETTER. THE ALTARS MUST NOT APPEAR AS IF AN OPERA HOUSE COVERED WITH CURTAINS. THE CLOTHS OF SSPX LITURGY IS SIMILAR TO THE SKIRTS OF MARIE ANTOINETTE.
[Replacement of Sacred Chant By Secular Music - This change has also been accompanied by a changed in musical instruments (e.g. went from a pipe organ to guitars and drums)]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... IDIOT. THE SONGS SUNG IN THE MASS ARE NOT SECULAR MUSIC BUT RELIGIOUS MUSIC. THEY ARE MODERN SACRED SONGS. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT ONLY GREGORIAN CHANTS ARE SACRED MUSIC?
GUITARS AND DRUMS ARE USED IN THE SINGING OF THE PSALMS IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD. STRING INSTRUMENTS ARE ALSO ACCEPTABLE TO GOD BUT REJECTED BY THE SSPX BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.
[Elimination of Side Altars - "The proposition of the synod enunciating that it is fitting, in accordance with the order of divine services and ancient custom that there be only one altar in each temple, and therefore, that it is pleased to restore that custom, [is condemned as] rash, injurious to the very ancient pious custom flourishing and approved for these many centuries in the Church, especially in the Latin Church." (Errors of the Synod of Pistoia, Condemned in the Constitution "Auctorem fidei," Aug. 28, 1794 A.D.)]
HA HA HA... IT IS THE SSPX THAT IS BEING CONDEMNED BY AUCTOREM FIDEI BECAUSE THE SSPX DEMONICALLY REJECTS THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH TO IMPOSE RULES AND DECREES ESPECIALLY THOSE GIVEN BY THE VATICAN II ECUMENICAL COUNCIL:
"5. In that part in which the proposition insinuates that the Church "does not have authority to demand obedience to its decrees otherwise than by means which depend on persuasion; in so far as it intends that the Church has not conferred on it by God the power, not only of directing by counsel and
persuasion, but also of ordering by laws, and of constraining and forcing the inconstant and stubborn by exterior judgment and salutary punishments" leading toward a system condemned elsewhere as heretical." [AUCTORUM FIDEI]
THE SUBVERSION AND SCHISMATIC TENDENCIES OF SSPX ARE ALSO CONDEMNED BY THE SAME DOCUMENT:
"7. Likewise, in this, that it encourages a bishop "to pursue zealously a more perfect constitution of ecclesiastical discipline," and this "against all contrary customs, exemptions, reservations which are opposed to the good order of the diocese, for the greater glory of God and for the greater edification of the faithful"; in that it supposes that a bishop has the right by his own judgment and will to decree and decide contrary to customs, exemptions, reservations, whether they prevail in the universal Church or even in each province, without the consent or the intervention of a higher hierarchic power, by which these customs, etc., have been introduced or approved and have the force of law,—leading to schism and subversion of hierarchic rule, erroneous."
THIS IS WHAT LEFEBVRE, FELLAY, WILLIAMSON, TISSIER DE MALLERAIS AND THEIR COHORTS ARE DOING. HERE IS ANOTHER WHICH DIRECTLY REFUTES THE CLAIM OF THE SSPX:
"8. Likewise, in that it says it is convinced that "the rights of a bishop received from Jesus Christ for the government of the Church cannot be altered nor hindered, and, when it has happened that the exercise of these rights has been interrupted for any reason whatsoever, a bishop can always and should return to his original rights, as often as the greater good of his church demands it"; in the fact that it intimates that the exercise of episcopal rights can be hindered and coerced by no higher power, whenever a bishop shall judge that it does not further the greater good of his church,—leading to schism, and to subversion of hierarchic government, erroneous."
ReplyDeleteIF THESE SSPX ANIMALS ARE THINKING THAT THE DOCUMENT AUCTORUM FIDEI SHALL HELP THEM THEN THEY ARE IN FOR SURPRISES. YOUR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE SHALL HUNT YOU SSPX.
CONCERNING YOUR CLAIM THAT WE REMOVED THE SIDE ALTARS. WELL, SORRY FOR YOU. WE DIDN'T REMOVE THEM THE SIDE ALTARS ARE STILL THERE AT THE SIDE. IN FACT, IN OUR NEWLY RENOVATED CATHEDRAL OF STS. PETER AND PAUL IN SORSOGON CITY THE DAILY MASSES ARE DONE AT THE SIDE CHAPEL. HA HA HA... FOOLS.
[Many Dropped Feast Days - Many feast days were dropped from the universal calendar (or given a lesser status). Note that many of these feasts trace back hundreds of years or more and include especially popular, beloved saints.]
O NO THEY ARE NOT DROPPED. THEY ARE STILL THERE. WHO AMONG THOSE SAINTS ARE DROPPED? ALL THE SAINTS FROM MAMA MARY UP TO THE PRESENT SAINTS ARE NOT DROPPED THEY ARE ALL CELEBRATED ACCORDING TO THEIR FEASTDAYS. YOU ARE HALLUCINATING.
[Drastic Changes in Prayers for Remaining Feasts - For example, one priest has pointed out that "All Souls' Day is [now] No Souls' Day, even in the original Latin, where the word for soul (anima) has been suppressed in the prayers of November 2."]
HA HA HA VERY STUPID. SO, YOU ARE HURT BY THE LACK OF THE WORD SOULS. BUT IF YOU ARE NOT STUPID YOU FIND IN ALREADY IN THE VERY TITLE: "ALL SOULS DAY" IN LARGE ANG BOLD LETTERS. AND INSTEAD OF USING THE WORD SOULS IN THE PRAYER IT USES "OUR DEPARTED BROTHERS AND SISTERS". SO INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO SOULS IT REFERS TO THE PERSON OF THE DEPARTED BOTH BODY AND SOUL. HA HA HA... THE SENILITY OF LEFEBVRE IS CONTAGIOUS.
[Candles in Church - Reduced or eliminated. Some may now be artificial.]
CANDLES ARE VERY MUCH PRESENT IN EVERY MASS AND IN TLM ONLY TWO CANDLES ARE USED DURING THE LOW MASS BUT IN NOVUS ORDO MOST OF THE ALTARS ARE ADORNED WITH MINIMUM 4 CANDLES EVEN IN DAILY MASSES. THE PAULINE MASS USES MORE CANDLES THAN THE TLM MOST OF THE TIME.
[Crucifix in Church - May be reduced in size, distorted, may not contain a suffering Jesus, etc. Some may be simply plain crosses
ReplyDeleteElevation of Man / Apparent Forgetfulness of God (Man-Centered vs. God-Centered) - There seems to be a turning away of man's eyes from God to man. Further, given the changes since the Council (relaxation of penance, discipline, etc.) one might even ask, "Has the council done nothing but seek to please men?"]
YOU ARE HALLUCINATING. ALMOST ALL OF THE CHURCHES THAT I HAVE VISITED AND HAVE CELEBRATED MASS IN ARE HAVING LARGE CRUCIFIX IN THE ALTAR RIGHT AT THE CENTER AND ON THE TOP. MAY BE THE SSPX HAVE ENTERED THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. HA HA HA...
BLACK VESTMENTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
ReplyDeleteso the Church were Satanist because they made black vestments prior to VII..
IDIOT. THE MINOR ORDERS ARE NOT LOSS. THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MAJOR ORDERS.
Hahahaha. Minor order is in Major Order, Pag shure!
BLACK VESTMENTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS.
ReplyDelete[so the Church were Satanist because they made black vestments prior to VII..]
THE CHURCH IS NOT SATANIST BUT THE SSPX IS LUCEFERIAN BECAUSE OF ITS REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE AND THE CHURCH. LUCIFER-LUTHER-LEFEBVRE...
IF THE CHURCH HAS CHOSEN TO USE BLACK IT HAS ALSO CHOSEN TO USE OTHER COLORS. SO THAT YOUR IMPERTINENT DEMAND TO RETAIN THE BLACK CASSOCK IS PATHETIC AND LUCIFERIAN.
IDIOT. THE MINOR ORDERS ARE NOT LOSS. THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MAJOR ORDERS.
[Hahahaha. Minor order is in Major Order, Pag shure!]
HA HA HA... DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THE LORD GOD INSTITUTED THE PRIESTHOOD? AND UNDER AND WITHIN THAT PRIESTHOOD ROSE THE MINOR ORDERS LATER ON. THERE IS ONLY ONE SACRAMENT OF THE HOLY ORDER. THE BISHOP,PRIEST AND DEACON ARE WITHIN THE ORDER OF PRIESTHOOD. THEY ARE DEGREES OF PRIESTHOOD AND THE MINOR ORDERS ARE PART OF THAT ONE AND THE SAME PRIESTHOOD. TELL THAT TO TARSIER DE MALALA. HA HA HA...
[PART VI: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDeleteFrequent Inappropriate Handling of Holy Things - ]
THE SSPX HAVE NO CANONICAL AND MORAL AUTHORITY TO SAY WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE MANNER OF HANDLING THE HOLY THINGS OF GOD IT IS BECAUSE IT SQUANDERS THE MOST HOLY THING OF GOD – THE UNITY OF THE CHURCH AND THE SEE OF PETER. THE LORD JESUS APPOINTED THE BLESSED PETER AND HIS SUCCESSOR TO DETERMINE WHICH IS APPROPRIATE AND WHICH IS NOT IN THE CHURCH. IT IS NOT THE DUTY OF THE SSPX ANIMALS TO CLAIM GREATER AUTHORITY THAN OUR POPES AND BISHOPS.
[The laity now often handle - even carelessly - the most sacred of all things, Jesus' Body & Blood in the Holy Eucharist, despite the fact that we see in the Old Testament that God struck Uzzah down after he touched something he shouldn't have (the Ark). ]
THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WAS COMMANDED BY GOD NOT TO BE TOUCHED EXCEPT BY THE PRIESTS. THE HOLY EUCHARIST WAS GIVEN BY THE LORD JESUS TO BE HANDED BY THE BAPTIZED FAITHFUL TO BE “TAKEN” [“TAKE THIS ALL OF YOU...”] AND TO BE EATEN. THERE IS AN EXPLICIT PERMISSION FROM THE LORD JESUS FOR THE BELIEVERS TO TAKE THE BODY OF THE LORD AND THIS IS IMPLENTED BY THE POPE IN ALLOWING COMMUNION BY THE HAND. IF TOUCHING THE HOLY EUCHARIST IS EVIL FOR LAY THEN ALL SSPX LAY ARE COMMITTING SIN THEN THEY ARE TOUCHING THEM BY THEIR MOUTHS, LIPS AND TOUNGUE... INCLUDING THEIR BELLIES, ETC.
THE HOLY EUCHARIST WAS GIVEN FOR THE PEOPLE AND TO THE PEOPLE. IT IS NOT LIKE THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WHICH WAS NOT GIVEN WITH THE WORDS: “TAKE THIS ALL OF YOU AND EAT IT. THIS IS MY BODY...” THAT IS WHY YOUR COMPLAINT IS BASED ON SIMPLE PRACTICAL STUPIDITY.
[Worse still, since many take Communion in the hand and don't examine their hands for particles, they cause Christ's body to literally be thrown on the ground and trampled on.]
THIS IS VERY HILARIOUS. WHY DON’T YOU GIVE THEM THE MICROSCOPE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SEE THE SMALLEST PARTICLES. HOW ABOUT THE PRIESTS COULD THEY SEE THE SMALLEST PARTICLES? THEY ARE ONLY SEEING THE PARTICLES VISIBLE TO THEIR EYES. THOSE WHO ARE SO SMALL THAT ARE BEYOND THE GRASP OF NORMAL SENSE OF SEEING WE ARE NOT OBLIGED TO SEARCH FOR THEM.
HOW ABOUT THE SSPX? ARE THEY EXAMINING THEIR OUTER MOUTHS AND THE LIPS AND FACES IF THERE ARE PARTICLES THAT HAVE FALLEN DURING THE COMMUNION FROM THE HAND OF THE PRIESTS? THEY DO NOT ALSO. THEY PRESUME THAT EVERYTHING WENT WELL FROM THE CIBORIUM TO THEIR TONGUES. HOW ABOUT THOSE THAT WERE FALLING ALONG THE WAY ?FROM CIBORIUM TO THE MOUTH? WHETHER IT IS BY THE HAND OR BY THE MOUTH THAT POSSIBILITY IS THE SAME POSSIBILITY. IF YOU DON’T WANT ANY SMALLEST PARTICLE TO DROP ASK YOUR SSPX PRIESTS TO CONSECRATE THE HOSTS RIGHT INSIDE YOUR MOUTHS.
[Note: Remember that even the smallest particle is Jesus' flesh & blood, whole and entire: "Christ, whole and entire, is contained not only under either species, but also in each particle of either species."]
ReplyDeleteYES, WE KNOW THAT. THAT IS WHY EVERY TIME THERE IS A SMALLEST PARTICLE DROPPING FROM THE HANDS OF SSPX PRIESTS FALLING ON THE GROUND SHALL BE ENOUGH TO SEND THEIR SOULS TO HELL BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPOSING SUCH EXTREME CASES OF SACRILEGE ON OTHERS. INSTEAD, IT WILL BOOMERANG ON YOUR SOULS. ALL THE UNSEEN PARTICLES THAT HAD FALLEN ON THE GROUND IN YOUR MASSES AND COMMUNIONS SHALL BRING JUDGMENT UPON YOUR PHARISAICAL SOULS.
[(Catechism of the Council of Trent)
Apparent Consideration of Jesus as Our "Buddy" Rather than as Almighty God, Our Lord and Judge]
JESUS IS OUR GOD, THE ALMIGHTY GOD, THE LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS. HE IS NOT OUR BUDDY. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT? ARE YOU SO STUPID THAT WE ARE BUYING ‘SMART BUDDY’ CARDS BUT WE DO NOT PRAY TO JESUS AS OUR BUDDY? WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE OFFICIAL TEXT OF THE PAULINE MASS THAT JESUS IS OUR BUDDY? STOP IMPOSING YOUR STUPIDITIES ON US.
[Adoption of Non-Catholic Spirituality by Certain Members of the Church (e.g. yoga) - Such practices may be accompanied by pagan rituals/symbolism, and those who practice them may attempt to discredit traditional Catholic spirituality.]
WE DO NOT ADOPT THEM. IF YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED THEM THEN SHOW THE CONTRACT OF ADOPTION. HA HA HA... THE PAULINE MASS IS INHERITED FROM CATHOLIC TRADITION... PURELY AND SOLIDLY. YOU CAN CHECK IT PIECE BY PIECE AND LINE BY LINE. NONE WAS TAKEN FROM PAGAN RITUALS OR SYMBOLISM.
THAT ACCUSATION IS ACTUALLY ADOPTED BY THE SSPX FROM THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS, THE BORN AGAIN, THE IGLESIA NI MANALO AND THE DATING DAAN OF SORIANO... THESE ARE COMMON ATTACKS TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH BY THE PROTESTANT REBELS.
[Reduced Eucharistic Adoration]
IDIOT. WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF CHURCHES AND CHAPELS PROVIDING 24 HOURS ADORATION OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT. NON-STOP. HA HA HA... SO THE ADORATION OF SSPX ARE NOTHING IN COMPARISION WITH OUR ADORATIONS.
[Changed Sacramentals]
WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE SACRAMENTALS. WHICH ONE ARE YOU REFERRING TO.
[Lay 'Ministers']
ReplyDeleteLAY MINISTERS ARE MINISTERS OF THE CHURCH WITH TEMPORARY AND VERY SPECIFIC ROLE IN THE CHURCH. ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS WITHIN THE POWER OF THE KEEPER OF THE KEYS OF HEAVEN TO GRANT PRIVILEGES, TO LIMIT THOSE PRIVILEGES AND TO CEASE THAT PRIVILEGES. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT LAY PEOPLE CANNOT SERVE AS SPECIAL MINISTERS OF THE CHURCH? HA HA HA... EVEN THE PRIESTS AND THE DEACONS WERE FROM THE LAY FAITHFUL.
[Female Altar Servers]
WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT IT IS EVIL TO HAVE FEMALE ALTAR SERVERS?
[Near Loss of the Latin Language]
IT IS NOT US WHO LOST THE LATIN LANGUAGE. THE PRE-VATICAN II PEOPLE LOST THE LATIN LANGUAGE. BEFORE VATICAN II CONVENED LATIN ALREADY LOST ITS HOLD IN THE ACADEMIC AND SCHOLARLY LIFE OF THE WORLD. DO NOT PRETEND THAT LATIN WAS ALIVE IN PRE-VATICAN II. IT WAS LONG DEAD. THE SSPX IS ACTUALLY HOLDING ITS CORPSE. HA HA HA... IF THE HOLY SPIRIT WANTS TO PRESERVE LATIN THEN HE SHOULD HAVE PRESERVED IT AS THE LANGUAGE OF AT LEAST ONE NATION. BUT, AS YOU CAN SEE: NADA, NOTHING... IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA... LATIN DIED A NATURAL DEATH. IF YOU WANT TO PRESERVE IT THEN YOU CAN RESPOND HERE IN LATIN SO THAT THE PEOPLE WILL APPRECIATE YOUR FOOLISHNESS. HA HA HA...
[Frequent Adoption of Terminology Acceptable to Protestants (e.g. table vs. altar, bread vs. Host, etc.)]
HA HA HA... THIS ONE IS TRULY AN IDIOT. BOTH ALTAR AND TABLE ARE USED IN THE BIBLE FOR THE TEMPLE SACRIFICE AND FOR THE LAST SUPPER OF JESUS. THE CHURCH STILL USES THE WORD ALTAR AND ONLY THE BLIND LIKE THE SSPX WILL DENY THAT. AND IF EVER WE USE THE WORD TABLE FOR THE EUCHARISTIC SACRIFICE WE USE THE TERM: ‘ALTAR TABLE’. BOTH TERM ARE BIBLICALLY FOUNDED. UNFORTUNATELY THE SSPX PRIESTS ARE IGNORANT OF THE BIBLE.
CONCERNING THE BREAD VS THE HOST. THIS IS ANOTHER STUPIDITY. BECAUSE THE INSTITUTION NARRATIVE DIRECTLY REFERS TO THE BREAD: “BEFORE HE WAS GIVEN UP TO DEATH HE TOOK THE BREAD...”, “I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE”... “I AM THE BREAD THAT COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN”... ONLY IDIOTS LIKE THE SSPX SHALL DENY THE BIBLICAL FOUNDATION OF JESUS AS “THE BREAD OF LIFE”. EVEN IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, IN THE TEMPLE THERE IS THE “HOLY BREAD” AND “THE SHOW BREAD” OR “THE BREAD OF PRESENCE”.
THE SSPX ARE FAST MANIFESTING THEIR GROSS IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITIES. THEY ARE BECOMING HERETICS IN THIER REBELLION AGAINST THE SEE OF PETER. IT IS TRUE THAT WHEN A BRANCH IS SEPARATED FROM THE TREE AND THE ROOT IT DECAYS. THEY ARE SO STUPID THAT THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THE FACT THAT THE HOLY EUCHARIST WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE LORD JESUS DURING “THE FEAST OF THE UNLEAVENED BREAD”.
[Shift From "Repugnance" Towards Modern World to Embracing of the Modern World]
ReplyDeleteTHE POPE AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH LEADS IN ITS CONFRONTATION AGAINST THE MODERN WORLD. WE ENGAGE THEM IN DEBATES AND WE OPPOSE THEM IN ABORTION, CONTRACEPTION, SAME SEX MARRIAGE, DIVORCE... WE DENOUNCE WHAT IS EVIL IN CAPITALISM AND IN COMMUNISM AND MANY OTHERS. THAT IS WHY THE FORCES OF THE MODERN WORLD HATE SO MUCH POPE PAUL VI AND POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT. AND THE SSPX ARE JOINING THESE EVIL FORCES IN ATTACKING THE POPES RATHER THAN HELPING AND PROTECTING THE POPE. THE SSPX IS POISONED BY THE EVIL OF THE MODERN WORLD, NAMELY, REBELLION.
[implications That Previous Church Documents / Dogmas Expire or Lose Validity]
HA HA HA... STUPID. NONE OF THE DOGMAS OF THE CHURCH EVER DECLARED EXPIRED OR LOST THEIR VALIDITY. THIS IS A MERE SSPX DELUSION. NOW, CONCERNING CHURCH DOCUMENTS THERE ARE SOME WHOSE CONTENTS ARE STILL VALID AND EFFICACIOUS BUT THERE ARE SOME WHICH ARE NO LONGER VALID BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SUPERCEDED BY NEW DOCUMENTS. IT IS THE POPE WHO IS THE FINAL AND DEFINITIVE AUTHORITY ON SUCH MATTERS AND NOT THE SSPX TRAITORS.
[Apparent Denial of Absolute Truths / "Denial of Certainty"]
THAT IS APPARENT ONLY IN THE INSANE MIND OF LEFEBVRE. BUT OUR POPES TAUGHT US THAT TRUTH IS OBJECTIVE AND ABSOLUTE, TRUTH IS CERTAIN AND KNOWABLE. AND MOST OF ALL TRUTH IS A PERSON – THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.
GIVE ME AN OFFICIAL TEACHING OF THE CHURCH THAT DENIES ABSOLUTE TRUTHS.
[Appearance of a "Watered Down" Doctrine]
THERE IS NO WATERED DOWN DOCTRINE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. OUR DOCTRINES ARE FOUNDED ON SOLID ROCK OF PETER THE APOSTLE. OUR DOCTRINES ARE ON THE ROCK ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD. INSTEAD, IT IS THE SSPX THAT WATERED DOWN THE DOGMAS OF VATICAN I CONCERNING THE ABSOLUTE AND SUPREME AUTHORITY OF THE POPE. THEY INVENTED DEMONIC INTERPRETATIONS OF ECCLESIA SUPPLET AND SUPPLIED JURISDICTION INVENTED BY TISSIER DE MALLERAIS TO PRIVIDE SEMBLANCE OF VALIDITY FOR THEIR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION.
[Apparent Adoption of Previously Condemned "Situation Ethics" Where Subjective Judgment and Moral Relativism Replace Objective Truths and Absolute Moral Standards]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA... IDIOT. POPE PAUL VI AND JOHN PAUL THE GREAT ARE THE GREATEST ENEMIES OF MORAL RELATIVISM AND CHAMPIONS OF OBJECTIVE TRUTHS. THE HUMANAE VITAE, VERITATIS SPLENDOR AND EVANGELIUM VITAE ARE ANTIDOTES TO MORAL RELATIVISM. BUT THE LIKES OF LEFEBVRE, WILLIAMSON, FELLAY AND TSSIER DE MALLERAIS ARE INUTULE AND IMPOTENT IN FIGHTING AGAINST MORAL RELATIVISM. IN FACT, WILLIAMSON TRIES TO REHABILITATE HITLER AN DOWNGRADE THE HOLOCAUST. BUT WHEN INTERNATIONAL UPROAR WENT TO LOUD HE APOLOGIZED. THE ANIMAL WAS CAUGHT IN THE ACT. HA HA HA...
[Apparent Support for the Condemned Concept of "Separation of Church and State"]
IS THE SSPX UNITED WITH THE STATE OF SWITZERLAND? IF THE SSPX IS AGAINST THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE THEN IT SHOULD UNITED ITSELF WITH THE GOVERNMENTS OF THIS WORLD. YOU SEE YOUR HYPOCRISY, SSPX. YOU CLAIM TO BE AGAINST THE WORLD BUT YOU ARE SALIVATING TO BE IN COHORTS WITH THE POLITICAL POWERS OF THIS WORLD. WHEN WE DIALOGUE WITH THE WORLD YOU HOWL LIKE WOLVES IN PROTESTS BUT ACTUALLY YOU WISH TO STAIN YOUR MARITAL BED WITH THE POWERS OF THIS WORLD.
THE PRE-VATICAN II POPES ARE FEUDAL AND MILITARY LORDS OF PAPAL STATE. WHEN IT WAS TAKEN FROM THEM THEY CRIED LIKE BABIES. THEY MADE THEMSELVES PRISONERS OF THE VATICAN. BUT AFTERWARD THEY DECIDED TO MOVE ON. THEY SIGNED A PACT WHICH THROUGH WHICH THEY ABANDONED CLAIMS ON THE PAPAL STATE. WHY? BECAUSE EVEN IF THEY WANT THE FACT IS THAT THE LANDS ARE NO LONGER THEIRS. THEY LOST IT. INSTEAD OF CRYING OVER IT THEY DECIDED TO MOVE ON.
TODAY, MANY NATIONS WANT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. WHAT DO YOU WANT THE POPE TO DO? IMPOSE ON THIS NATIONS TO UNITE WITH US EVEN THOUGH THEY WANT TO SEPARATE? OF COURSE THE POPE MUST RESPECT THEIR DECISION TO SEPARATE THE CHURCH AND STATE. IF THEY WANT US THEN WE ACCEPT THEM BUT IF THEY REJECT US WE CANNOT DO OTHERWISE.
IF THE SSPX ARE TRULY IN FAVOR OF UNION OF CHURCH AND STATE THEN WHY ARE THEY NOT GOING TO THE UNITE D NATIONS AND DEMAND THAT THEY BE UNITED TO EACH OF THOSE GOVERNMENTS? HOW COME FELLAY DOESN’T GO TO THE GOVERNMENT OF SWITZERLAND OR UNITED STATES OR BRITAIN AND UNITE THEM? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO BE UNITED WITH THE STATES?
[Apparent (or Actual) Change of Purpose of Various Religious Orders]
THERE IS NO CHANGE OF PURPOSE. IT SO HAPPENED THAT THE SSPX ARE BLIND TO DEVELOPMENT. THE RELIGOUS ORDERS ARE REACTING TO THE NEEDS OF THE CHURCH IN EVERY CENTURY AND THEY VARY. AT THE SAME TIME THE RELIGIOUS ARE RESPONDING TO THE NEW CHALLENGES THAT CONFRONT THEM IN EVERY SITUATIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH VARY ALSO.
[Apparent Shift From the Service of God to the Service of Man]
IDIOT. THE CHURCH DOESN’T SHIFT BETWEEN THE TWO. INSTEAD THE CHURCH DO BOTH: SERVICE TO GOD BY SERVING THE NEIGHBOR, LOVE OF GOD AND NEIGHBOR. THIS IS WELL PRESENTED IN THE WORDS OF THE DIVINE MASTER: “WHATSOEVER YOU DO TO THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS THAT YOU DO UNTO ME.” ITS A PITY THAT THE SSPX ARE IGNORANT OF THIS BIBLICAL TRUTH. INSTEAD, THEY WANT US TO SERVE GOD AND STOP SERVING MAN...TSK TSK TSK... THAT IS DEMONIC. THAT IS THE EXAMPLE OF SSPX MORAL RELATIVISM.
PART VII: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
ReplyDelete["Denigration of the Historical Church" - There seems to be no shortage of persons disparaging the Church's past, even high ranking prelates.]
HA HA HA… ONCE AGAIN THE SSPX ARE BEING DELUSIONAL. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS PROUD AND IS PRESERVING HER PAST THAT IS WHY SHE KEEPS THE BEAUTY OF THE FAITH AND THE TREASURES OF SPIRITUALITY DEVELOPED THROUGHOUT THE AGES AND SHE PROTECTS THE ARTS AND CULTURES AS WELL AS THE SCIENCES THAT SHE HELPED PRODUCED FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION. THE CHURCH IS SEMPER UBIQUE AB OMNIBUS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE CATHOLIC CHUCH IS NOT A MUMMIFIED MONSTER LIKE THE SSPX. SHE IS NOT STAGNANT LIKE YOUR POPELESS SOCIETY WHERE THERE WILL BE NEW CANONIZATIONS AND BEATIFICATIONS AND NO NEW PAPAL ENCYCLICALS AND CONCILIAR DECREES BECAUSE YOU ARE POPELESS. THE CHURCH IS ALIVE AND IS GROWING AND DEVELOPING THROUGHOUT THE AGES. HER ARCHITECTURE CHANGES, HER MUSIC CHANGES AS WELL. THE DOGMATIC FORMULATIONS ARE DEVELOPING AS WELL. JUST COMPARE THE PLAIN APOSTLES CREED TO THAT OF THE NICAEA-CONSTANTINOPOLITAN CREED AND YOU WILL SEE THE OBVIOUS CHANGES BROUGHT BY DEVELOPMENT. THE CHURCH IS SEMPER REFORMANDA WHILE THE SSPX IS A DEAD CORPSE BEING REVIVED BY LUCIFERIAN BREATH OF REBELLION. IT IS LIKE AN ABANDONED MUSUEM WITHOUT A CURATOR AND AN ART MASTER ADMINISTERING. IT IS A SOCIETY WITHOUT A SOUL; A GREAT PRETENDER OF TRADITION BUT SO STUPID AS TO FORGET THAT THE TRADITION OF THE CHURCH IS ENTRUSTED TO ST. PETER AND HIS SUCCESSORS. IT IS LIKE THE DEAD SEA WHICH IS DEAD BECAUSE IT IS INCAPABLE OF GIVING LIFE THAT FLOWS FROM THE BRANCH AND THE ROOT: PETER AND HIS HOLY SEE.
[ "The Church, which has never betrayed the happiness of the people by consenting to dubious alliances, does not have to free herself from the past" (Pope St. Pius X, "Our Apostolic Mandate")]
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DIDN’T ENTER INTO ANY DUBIOUS ALLIANCES AND SHE HAS NOT FORGOTTEN HER PAST. BUT THE SSPX DEMONICALLY FORGOTTEN THAT THE EARLIEST HISTORY OF THE CHURCH SHINES THROUGH THE DARKNESS AT CAESAREA PHILIPPI WHEN THE DIVINE MASTER PROCLAIMED THAT THE TRUE FAITH IS ENTRUSTED AS A GIFT BY GOD THE FATHER TO THE BLESSED PETER – THE FIRST OF THE APOSTLES AND ON HIM THE CHURCH WAS FOUNDED AND UNTO HIM THE KEYS OF HEAVEN WERE ENTRUSTED. THIS IS THE HISTORICAL PAST THAT THE SSPX SQUANDERED AND THROWN TO THE DOGS. THEY HAVE CANONICALLY ALLIED THEMSELVES WITH LUCIFER-LUTHER-LEFEBVRE AND WITH ARIUS-NESTORIUS IN OPPOSING THE SEE OF PETER AND THE VICAR OF CHRIST.
POPE PIUS X SPEAKS OF THE GLORIOUS PAST OF THE CHURCH WHICH IS THE DIVINE ORIGIN AS WELL AS THE PETRINE-APOSTOLIC ORIGIN OF THE CHURCH. BUT THE SSPX IS NOT PART OF THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE IT IS POPELESS DE JURE ET DE FACTO. THE BETTER TERM FOR IT IS “IMFACTO”… SOCIETAS IMFACTAS… LITURGICAS BASTARDAS.
[Detachment from the Past / Disregarding of the Past / Disparaging of the Past (e.g. the Church's glorious past has been seemingly exchanged for a "sinful past that requires numerous apologies") - Includes a "near silence on all things of the past" and a "sweeping away of historical elements - a wholesale overthrow of hundreds of years or more of tradition - which has served to cut modern Catholics off from previous Christian generations"]
ReplyDeleteHA HA HA… SSPX IDIOTS, LIARS AND DECEIVERS. ARCH. BUGNINI DID A GREAT SERVICE TO THE CHURCH BY PROVIDING PATRISTIC AND SPIRITUAL WRITINGS OF SAINTS IN THE REVISED OFFICE OF READINGS YET YOU DEMONICALLY DENOUNCE HIM WITH YOUR LIES. YOU ARE NOT HAPPY THAT THE ADDED MORE BIBLICAL READINGS IN THE PAULINE MASS WITH THE RESPONSORIAL PSALMS AND THE NEW TESTAMENT EPISTLES BECAUSE IT IS AGAINST YOUR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION. YOU HYPOCRITICALLY DEFEND TRADITION YET YOU ATTACK ARCH. BUGNINI FOR HIS GREAT PATRISTIC CONTRIBUTION TO THE OFFICE OF THE READINGS. HOW ABOUT YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE WHAT IS HIS CONTRIBUTION TO PATRISTIC STUDIES? NOTHING, NADA, NUNCA…. IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET! HA HA HA…
RATZINGER HAS DONE SO MUCH IN PROMOTING PATRISTIC STUDIES IN HIS VOLUMINOUS BOOKS AND ARTICLES BUT HOW ABOUT WILLIAMSON AND FELLAY? WHAT ARE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO PATRISTIC STUDIES OR TO THE WORKS OF THE DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH OR OF THE GREAT SPIRITUAL MASTERS? WHAT? CAN THEY EVEN PRESENT AT LEAST HALF OF WHAT RATZINGER HAS DONE IN PROMOTING THE GLORIOUS PAST OF THE CHURCH?
THE SSPX IS NOT THE PRESERVER OF CATHOLIC TRADITION BUT ONE OF ITS DESTROYERS BY BEING TRAITOR TO THE POPE THE ONE APPOINTED BY GOD AS THE SUPREME CARETAKER OF THE DEPOSIT OF THE FAITH AND OF THE ENTIRE TRADITION. SO, SSPX ANIMALS STOP YOUR CHARADE AND YOUR LITURGICAL CARNAVALS.
[Near Elimination of Discipline, Even Though Abuses Are Well-Known & Widespread - "It seems the Church is now only capable of discipline in the case of 'Traditionalists' and some very flagrant liberals"]
THE SSPX ARE TRULY OUT OF THEIR MINDS. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID NOT ELEMINATE DISCIPLINE BECAUSE THE CANON LAW IS STILL VERY MUCH ENFORCED. WHAT THE CHURCH HAS ELIMINATED IS THE IMPLENTATIONS OF VERY SEVERE AND HARSH DISCIPLINE UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY AND UNAVOIDABLE. THE SENILE AND INSANE LEFEBVRE CANNOT FATHOM THE SPIRITUALITY OF BLESSED JOHN XXIII WHO PREFERRED THE MEDICINE OF MERCY RATHER THAN OF CONDEMNATION. LIKE LUCIFER HIS PREDECESSOR IN REBELLION AGAINST THE CHURCH HE PREFERS TO THROW THE FIRST STONE RATHER THAN APPLY THE MERCY OF GOD. IT ONLY SHOWS HIS LACK OF CHRISTIAN VIRTUES. HIS MINDSET IS SIMILAR TO ANOTHER TRAITOR JUDAS ISCARIOT WHO WAS ANGRY AT THE SINNER CRYING AT THE FEET OF THE DIVINE MASTER.
THE SSPX WANTS TO BE TREATED WITH MERCY AND UNDERSTANDING SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR SERPENTINE REBELLION AGAINST THE SEE OF PETER BUT THEY HATE IT SO MUCH WHEN THE POPE SHOWS MERCY AND UNDERSTANDING ON OTHERS. THAT IS LUCIFERIAN ATTITUDE ARISING FROM THE CORE OF SSPX. THEIR CANONICAL AND LITURGICAL REBELLION LEADS TO DEGRADATION OF CHRISTIAN VIRTUES.
[Internal Dissent]
ReplyDeleteTHE SSPX IS THE MOST BLATANT EXAMPLE OF THIS DEMONIC INTERNAL DISSENT. HERE THEY ARE ATTACKING THEIR OWN SHADOWS.
IN THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES, THE JUDAIZERS REFUSED TO OBEY CARDINAL PAUL AND BISHOP BARNABAS. DUE TO STRONG OPPOSITION THE MATTER WAS BROUGHT TO THE ELDERS IN JERUSALEM LED BY CARDINAL JAMES. THE ELDERS CALLED FOR A COUNCIL WHICH WAS OF COURSE IN UNION WITH POPE PETER. THE DEBATES AND DIVISIONS WERE SO GREAT AND INTENSE BUT WHEN POPE PETER SPOKE EVERY BODY BECAME SILENT. AND WHEN THE POPE SETTLED THE CASE EVERY BODY AGREED WITH THE DECISION. THE SSPX TRAITORS ARE WORSE THAN THE JUDAIZERS. THEY DEMONICALLY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL AND THEY DEMONICALLY REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE DECISION OF THE POPE. THEY FOLLOWED THE PATH OF THE HERESIARCHS AND SCHISMATICS.
[Relaxation of Rules - "When rules are relaxed, people act worse, not better"]
THE RULES ARE NOT RELAXED IT IS ONLY MADE MORE HUMANE AND MORE MERCIFUL.: “RULES ARE MADE FOR MEN AND NOT MEN FOR THE RULES” THAT IS THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF THE HEART OF GOD. BY THEIR REBELLION THE SSPX HAVE FORGOTTEN THE WORD OF GOD CONCERNING LAWS AND RULES. THEY HAVE BECOME PHARISAICAL, WELL THE PHARISEES WERE THE FIRST TO REJECT THE CHURCH AND THE HOLY SEE.
[Frequent (Apparent) Adoption of a Policy of "Shutting One's Eyes to Sin" (especially sins against the first commandment) - According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[the post-conciliar Church] shuts its eyes to sin, and is afraid of being reproached for not being modern"]
ONLY IDIOTS WILL CLAIM THAT THE ROMAN C ATHOLIC CHURCH IS SHUTTING ONE’S EYES TO SIN. EXCUSE ME. THE REASON WHY THE POPE IS UNDER ATTACK BECAUSE HE REMINDS THE WORLD OF ITS SENSE OF SIN. THE VOICE OF CONSCIENCE FOR THE WORLD WHICH REMINDS IT OF ITS SINS IS THE POPE AND NOT LEFEBVRE WHO COMMITTED THE SIN OF REBELLION AGAINST THE CHURCH.
HOW DARE YOU USE THE NAME OF CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI. YOU HAVE THE GALL AND THE SHAMELESS FACE TO USE OUR CARDINAL WHO REMAINED LOYAL TO THE POPE AND WAS OBEDIENT TO THE POPES AND IMPLEMENTED THE VATICAN II CHANGES IN POLAND AS ITS PRIMATE. CARD. WYSZYNSKI IS NOT A TRAITOR LIKE LEFEBVRE. DREAM ON.
[Changed Environment Requiring Catholics to Make a Distinction Between "Traditional Catholics", "Conservative Catholics", "Progressive Catholics", Etc.]
IDIOT. IT IS NEITHER THE POPE NOR THE CHURCH THAT GIVES THAT DISTINCTION BUT THE SECULAR MEDIA. IS THIS HOW STUPID AND DECEPTIVE THE SSPX ARE?
[Manner of Reform Itself is a Break With Tradition -]
NO TRADITION HAS BEEN BROKEN. THE USE OF VERNACULAR FOR THE MASS AND FOR WORSHIP IS PART OF APOSTOLIC AND PATRISTIC TRADITION. ONLY IDIOTS DENY THAT. THAT IS WHY THERE ARE GREEK AND LATIN FATHERS OF THE CHURCH AND THERE ARE VARIOUS RITES IN THE CHURCH.
IT IS THE SSPX THAT BROKE WITH TRADITION WHEN IT REBELLED AGAINST THE POPE. THE CHURCH IS NOT A POPELESS SOCIETY, THE SSPX IS.
[ "[Previously,] All genuine reforms within the Church have been based on old foundations; none have attempted to lay new ones. To attempt to lay them is the essential characteristic of heresy, from the Gnosticism of the first centuries, to Catharism and the other mediaeval heresies regarding poverty, to the great German heresy of the sixteenth century." (Amerio)]]
ReplyDeleteWHO IS THIS AMERIO? WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIS VOICE AND HIS AUTHORITY. OUR POPE IS PAUL VI, JOHN PAUL 1, JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND BENEDICT XVI. HE IS A FALSE SHEPHERD.
SSPX IN THE 21ST CENTURY… THE SSPX IS THE TRAITOR GROUP WHO FOUGHT THE CHURCH AND THE POPES IN THIS CONTEMPORARY AGE. IT IS ON LEAGUE WITH THE PROTESTANTS AND MODERNISTS.
[Certain Elements of the Reform Are Difficult to Reconcile With Tradition - "Indeed, the extent and depth of the teaching of the Second Vatican Council call for a renewed commitment to deeper study in order to reveal clearly the Council's continuity with Tradition, especially in points of doctrine which, perhaps because they are new [!], have not yet been well understood by some sections of the Church."]
ALL THE DOCUMENT S OF VATICAN II ARE FAITHFUL TO TRADITION. THIS CANNOT BE COMPREHENDED BY THE SSPX BECAUSE THEY ARE TRAITORS TO TRADITION HANDED ON TO THE VICAR OF CHRIST.
[Ridicule and Persecution of Those Who Uphold Traditional Doctrine & Practices - This occurs even as those who spread heterodox teaching and perform sacrilegious acts go unpunished - or even rewarded.]
THOSE WHO ARE RIDICULED ARE THE TRAITORS TO THE FAITH LIKE THE SSPX. LEFEBVRE WAS RIDICULED FOR HIS INSANITY AND DISOBEDIENCE AND DEFIANCE AGAINST THE POPE. BUT, THE REAL FAITHFUL AND TRUE TRADITIONALISTS: CARDINAL OTTAVIANI, CARDINAL BIFFI, CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI AND CARDINAL SANTOS OF MANILA LIVED AND DIED HONORED AND LOVED WITHIN THE ARMS OF THE CHURCH. BUT LEFEBVRE LIVED IN TREACHERY AND DISOBEDIENCE AND HE DIED OUTSIDE THE CHURCH WHERE THERE IS NO SALVATION.
[Universal Documents May No Longer Be Published in the Church's Official Language]
ReplyDeleteWHO CARES? THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH IS NOT A DOGMA. THE CHURCH CAN EVEN CHANGE THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. JUST LOOK AT THE DENZINGERS MANY OF THE OLD DOCUMENTS ARE IN GREEK NOT LATIN. SO THIS IS A NON-ISSUE. IF THE POPE DECIDES NOT TO USE LATIN IN OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS SO BE IT. LET THE SSPX DIE WITH LATIN ON THEIR LIPS AS THEY ARE TRANSPORTED TO THE ABODE OF THOSE RESERVED FOR THE REBEL ANGELS AND THEIR COMRADES.
[Movement From Unity to Disunity / Uniformity to Pluralism]
THE POINT OF UNITY IN THE CHURCH IS THE LORD JESUS WHO APPOINTED THE VICAR OF CHRIST TO SERVE AS HEAD OF THE CHURCH ON EARTH. IF THE FAITHFUL WILL NOT UNITE WITH THE POPE THEN THEY ARE BECOMING UNFAITHFUL.
IT IS VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF SSPX TO SPEAK OF UNITY. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CAUSING DISUNITY BY OPPOSING AND BEING DISOBEDIENT WITH THE POPE. THEN THEY CLAIM THAT THEY SUPPORT UNITY. C’MMON. SSPX HYPOCRITES TELL THAT TO THE MARINES. YOU ARE THE ONES DESTROYING UNITY. YOU ARE VIOLATING THE CANON LAW AND THE DIVINELY GIVEN HIERARCHY OF THE CHURCH: THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS.
[Shying Away From 'Negative' Topics (Hell, Judgment, Sin, etc.) - "We no longer talk about sin at precisely the same time as the world is more sinful than ever!"]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR… ALL THESE TOPICS ARE DISCUSSED AND BEING DISCUSSED IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. MAY BE THESE ARE ABSENT IN SSPX THEOLOGY BECAUSE THEY HARDLY PRODUCE THEOLOGICAL BOOKS EXCEPT LIST OF ATTACKS AGAINST VATICAN II AND THE PAULINE MASS. BUT RATZINGER WROTE AN EXCELLENT BOOK ON THE TOPIC.
THIS SSPX IS AN IDIOT BECAUSE ALL THESE TOPICS ARE THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[Heterodox Teachings Common]
DELUSIONAL.
[Wayward Prelates Not Corrected]
EXCUSE ME, THEY ARE CORRECTED. BUT THE SSPX SUPPORTS A WAYWARD PRELATE AND HIS FOLLOWERS: GRUNER AND HIS COMPANIONS.
[Seeming Denial of the Loss of Human Dignity When One Commits Sin - and Therefore Becomes the Slave of Sin - "Jesus answered them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave of sin.'" (Jn. 8:34)]
IDIOT. THAT IS CATEGORICALLY AND SPECIFICALLY TAUGHT IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[Universal Documents May No Longer Be Published in the Church's Official Language]
ReplyDeleteWHO CARES? THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH IS NOT A DOGMA. THE CHURCH CAN EVEN CHANGE THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. JUST LOOK AT THE DENZINGERS MANY OF THE OLD DOCUMENTS ARE IN GREEK NOT LATIN. SO THIS IS A NON-ISSUE. IF THE POPE DECIDES NOT TO USE LATIN IN OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS SO BE IT. LET THE SSPX DIE WITH LATIN ON THEIR LIPS AS THEY ARE TRANSPORTED TO THE ABODE OF THOSE RESERVED FOR THE REBEL ANGELS AND THEIR COMRADES.
[Movement From Unity to Disunity / Uniformity to Pluralism]
THE POINT OF UNITY IN THE CHURCH IS THE LORD JESUS WHO APPOINTED THE VICAR OF CHRIST TO SERVE AS HEAD OF THE CHURCH ON EARTH. IF THE FAITHFUL WILL NOT UNITE WITH THE POPE THEN THEY ARE BECOMING UNFAITHFUL.
IT IS VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF SSPX TO SPEAK OF UNITY. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CAUSING DISUNITY BY OPPOSING AND BEING DISOBEDIENT WITH THE POPE. THEN THEY CLAIM THAT THEY SUPPORT UNITY. C’MMON. SSPX HYPOCRITES TELL THAT TO THE MARINES. YOU ARE THE ONES DESTROYING UNITY. YOU ARE VIOLATING THE CANON LAW AND THE DIVINELY GIVEN HIERARCHY OF THE CHURCH: THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS.
[Shying Away From 'Negative' Topics (Hell, Judgment, Sin, etc.) - "We no longer talk about sin at precisely the same time as the world is more sinful than ever!"]
LIAR, LIAR, LIAR… ALL THESE TOPICS ARE DISCUSSED AND BEING DISCUSSED IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. MAY BE THESE ARE ABSENT IN SSPX THEOLOGY BECAUSE THEY HARDLY PRODUCE THEOLOGICAL BOOKS EXCEPT LIST OF ATTACKS AGAINST VATICAN II AND THE PAULINE MASS. BUT RATZINGER WROTE AN EXCELLENT BOOK ON THE TOPIC.
THIS SSPX IS AN IDIOT BECAUSE ALL THESE TOPICS ARE THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
[Heterodox Teachings Common]
DELUSIONAL.
[Wayward Prelates Not Corrected]
EXCUSE ME, THEY ARE CORRECTED. BUT THE SSPX SUPPORTS A WAYWARD PRELATE AND HIS FOLLOWERS: GRUNER AND HIS COMPANIONS.
[Seeming Denial of the Loss of Human Dignity When One Commits Sin - and Therefore Becomes the Slave of Sin - "Jesus answered them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave of sin.'" (Jn. 8:34)]
IDIOT. THAT IS CATEGORICALLY AND SPECIFICALLY TAUGHT IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.