VATICAN II AND CHANGE - REFUTING THE CLAIMS OF THE SSPX Part 6

His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI baptizes former prominent Muslim Magdi Allam... while the SSPX are not converting the Protestants and Muslims, they focus on their treacherous attacks against the Pope.

 

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PART IV: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II

Reduction in Demands Made of Catholics - "Relaxing of rules teaches that duties can be eliminated when they prove difficult, it also results in the relaxing of the will, and provides no checking of natural impulses". According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[The post-conciliar Church] is reducing its demands and no longer resolving problems in accordance with the will of God, but in accordance with man's natural capacities".
Revolutionary New, Protestantized Liturgies - "With all due respect, some Catholic churches have become Protestant churches or community halls." (Msgr. Campell) Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci have even stated that "To prepare a complete study of all the pitfalls, dangers and psychologically and spiritually destructive elements the new rite contains, whether in texts, rubrics or instructions, would be a vast undertaking."
Changed Ordination Rite - According to Davies, the ordination rite "has been Protestantized even more thoroughly than the New Mass". He says that, "[E]very prayer in the traditional rite which stated specifically the essential role of a priest as a man ordained to offer propitiatory sacrifice for the living and dead has been removed. In most cases these were the precise prayers removed by the Protestant Reformers, or if not precisely the same there are clear parallels."
Changed Baptisms - According to Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome: "the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. [Pope] Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite."
Changed Rites for Other Sacraments - Many of these changes have been drastic
Elimination of Explicitly Sacrificial Prayers in Mass - This change is quote troublesome as it parallels the changes made by the Protestant 'Reformers' in the 16th century.
Changed Cycle of Readings For Mass - The new cycle is based on a 2-3 year cycle of readings rather than a one year cycle (which means that the same readings may take up to three years to reappear, thereby reducing retention)
Abolition of Black Vestments
Loss of Minor Orders
Changed Altars - Marble altars have been replaced by wooden tables
"Demotion" of the Altar - The altar, which represents Christ, in many new (or "wreckovated") churches, rather than being elevated above the laity, may now be on the same level as - or even lower than - the laity
"Demotion" of the Tabernacle - Often, the Tabernacle has been removed from the altar and has even been moved outside the Church (e.g. into a chapel). As Pope Pius XII said, "To separate the Tabernacle from the Altar is tantamount to separating two things which, of their very nature, must remain together."
Communion Under Both Species - This practice has led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity. This practice as was "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority". 

November 16, 2011 7:16 PM

 

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[PART IV: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II

Reduction in Demands Made of Catholics - "Relaxing of rules teaches that duties can be eliminated when they prove difficult, it also results in the relaxing of the will, and provides no checking of natural impulses". According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "]

ANOTHER STUPID CLAIM. CARDINAL WYSZNSKI REFUTES THIS ERROR BUT HE DIDN'T ATTRIBUTE IT TO THE POPE AND THE CHURCH. CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI REMAINED LOYAL TO THE POPE. CLAIMING CARDINAL WYSZINSKI TO SUPPORT THE SSPX IS AN ACT OF DESPERATION OF THE SSPX. THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF ARGUMENTS AND SO THEY ARE USING THE FAITHFUL CARDINALS TO ADVANCE THEIR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE.

WHERE DID CARD. WYSZYNSKI STATED THEREIN THAT RULES CANNOT BE CHANGED BY THE POPE?


[[The post-conciliar Church] is reducing its demands and no longer resolving problems in accordance with the will of God, but in accordance with man's natural capacities".]

HA HA HA... REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE SEE OF PETER ESTABLSIHED PERSONALLY BY JESUS IS CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD. THAT IS VERY CLEAR AND FOR THAT THE SSPX VIOLATED AND HAVE REBELLED AGAINST THE CHURCH AND THE LORD GOD. REVISING THE RULES OF THE CHURCH IS NOT AGAINST THE WILL OF GOD. IT IS THE SSPX THAT VIOLATES THE WILL OF GOD.


[Revolutionary New, Protestantized Liturgies -]

IDIOT. THE TRUE PROTESTANTS HATE THE NOVUS ORDO MASS. THE SSPX HATES THE NOVUS ORDO MASS. IT SHOWS THAT BOTH THE PROTESTANTS AND THE SSPX ARE POSSESSED BY THE SAME DEMON OF REBELLION AGAINST THE CHURCH AND THE POPE.

MAX THURIAN, BRO. ROGER OF TAIZE BECAME CATHOLICS BECAUSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. DR. SCOTT HAHN, STEVE RAY, MARCUS GRODI, JIMMY AKIN AND THOUSANDS MORE BECAME CATHOLICS BECAUSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. BUT THE SSPX HOW MANY CONVERTS DID THEY GOT? ALMOST ZERO IF THERE IS ONE. THE SSPX IS VERY PROTESTANT... THEY PROTEST AGAINST THE POPE. LUCIFER = LUTHER = LEFEBVRE... MUTATIS MUTANDIS.

["With all due respect, some Catholic churches have become Protestant churches or community halls." (Msgr. Campell) Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci have even stated that "To prepare a complete study of all the pitfalls, dangers and psychologically and spiritually destructive elements the new rite contains, whether in texts, rubrics or instructions, would be a vast undertaking."]

IDIOTIC INTERPRETATION. CARDINAL OTTAVIANI AND BACCI LIVED AND DIED IN COMMUNION WITH THE POPE. THEY WERE NOT DECEIVED BY THE STUPIDITIES AND LIES OF LEFEBVRE.

[Changed Ordination Rite -]

SO WHAT. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE RITE OF ORDINATION CANNOT BE CHANGED? ACTUALLY IT WAS NOT CHANGED BUT SIMPLY REVISED AND SIMPLIFIED. THANK GOD FOR THAT.

[According to Davies,]

DAVIES WHO? WHO IS THE ANIMAL? WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE AN OPINION. THE OFFICIAL VOICE OF THE CHURCH IS THE POPE.

[the ordination rite "has been Protestantized even more thoroughly than the New Mass".]

STUPID. THE PROTESTANTS DO NOT HAVE MINISTERIAL PRIESTHOOD SO WHAT PROTESTANTIZED RITE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE REVISED RITE OF ORDINATION IS AS CATHOLIC AS THE NEW MASS AND THE OLD RITES AND THE OLD MASSES WHO WERE ONCE NEW LIKE THE TLM WHICH WAS NEW DURING THE 16TH CENTURY.


[He says that, "[E]very prayer in the traditional rite which stated specifically the essential role of a priest as a man ordained to offer propitiatory sacrifice for the living and dead has been removed. In most cases these were the precise prayers removed by the Protestant Reformers, or if not precisely the same there are clear parallels."]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THE PRAYERS ARE SIMPLIFIED BUT ALL ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS ARE THERE. THE PROTESTANTS REMOVED THE SACRAMENT OF THE HOLY ORDER NOT JUST PART OF THE PRAYER. 

 

[Changed Baptisms -]

O NO, NO, NO... BAPTISM WAS NOT CHANGED. IT WAS THE RITE OF BAPTISM THAT WAS REVISED AND SIMPLIFIED.

[According to Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome:]

FR. GABRIELE AMORTH IS NOT THE CHIEF EXORCIST IN ROME. THERE IS NO SUCH TITLE OR POSITION IN ROME. THE CHIEF EXORCIST IN ROME IS THE POPE WHO IS THE BISHOP OF ROME. THE POPE IS ALSO THE CHIEF EXORCIST OF THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH.

["the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. [Pope] Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite."]

THAT IS JUST AN OPINION. FR. AMORTH IS A PROMINENT EXORCIST IN ROME BUT HE IS NOT THE HEAD OF THE LITURGICAL EXPERTS. HIS OPINION IS NICE BUT IT DOES NOT INVALIDATE THE BAPTISM IN THE CHURCH. THE ACT AND FORMULA OF BAPTISM WITH WATER ALONE IS ENOUGH FOR A VALID SACRAMENT AND FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE ORIGINAL SIN AND TO EXORCISE THE INFLUENCE OF SATAN FROM THE NEWLY BAPTIZED.

[Changed Rites for Other Sacraments - Many of these changes have been drastic]

IT WAS A REVISION THAT IS CALLED FOR AND NECESSARY WITHOUT DIMINISHING THE VALIDITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SACRAMENTS. YOU CAN CRY YOUR HEART OUT TO NO AVAIL BUT THE REVISION IS DONE PROPERLY AND CORRECTLY.

[Elimination of Explicitly Sacrificial Prayers in Mass - This change is quote troublesome as it parallels the changes made by the Protestant 'Reformers' in the 16th century.]

ONLY LIARS WILL CLAIM THIS BECAUSE THE SACRIFICIAL NATURE OF THE MASS IS REPEATEDLY AND CATEGORICALLY MENTIONED IN THE PAULINE MASS. DREAM ON. THE REFORMERS REMOVED THE MASS NOT THE SACRIFICIAL NATURE OF THE MASS. 

 

[Changed Cycle of Readings For Mass - The new cycle is based on a 2-3 year cycle of readings rather than a one year cycle (which means that the same readings may take up to three years to reappear, thereby reducing retention)]

IDIOT. THE BIBLICAL READINGS IN ONE CYCLE OF TLM DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE BIBLE UNLIKE THE THREE YEAR CYCLE THAT COVERS ALMOST THE ENTIRE BIBLE. THE NEW CYCLE OF READINGS HAVE MORE BIBLICAL TREASURES TO OFFER WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND READING AND RESPONSORIAL PSALM.

[Abolition of Black Vestments]

BECAUSE BLACK VESTMENTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS. WE ARE CHILDREN OF LIGHT NOT OF DARKNESS LIKE THE SSPX WHO ARE IN LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE. THE SSPX PRIESTS LOOK LIKE ALWAYS CELEBRATING THE BLACK MASS IN WORSHIP OF SATAN.

[Loss of Minor Orders]

IDIOT. THE MINOR ORDERS ARE NOT LOSS. THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MAJOR ORDERS.

[Changed Altars - Marble altars have been replaced by wooden tables]

BECAUSE MARBLES ARE EXPENSIVE NOWADAYS. EVEN THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WAS MADE OF WOOD PRIMARILY SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? THOSE WHO ARE FROM RICH COUNTRIES OR PLACES STILL HAVE MARBLE ALTARS IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE FACT.

["Demotion" of the Altar - The altar, which represents Christ, in many new (or "wreckovated") churches, rather than being elevated above the laity, may now be on the same level as - or even lower than - the laity]

HA HA HA... THIS IS STUPID. THIS SSPX IS IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT WHEN JESUS WAS HERE ON EARTH HE WALKED ON THE SAME GROUND WITH THE PEOPLE. BESIDES, THE BLESSED SACRAMENT IS ABOVE ALL EVEN IF IT IS PUT IN TABERNACLE ON SAME LEVEL WITH THE PEOPLE.

BUT IN FACT THE ACCUSATION IS NOT TRUE. THE LOW LEVEL BLESSED SACRAMENT IS ONL FOR THOSE SMALL CHURCHES WHOSE ALTAR IS LOW. BUT ALMOST ALL CHURCHES PUT THE BLESSED SACRAMENT A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE ALTAR.

["Demotion" of the Tabernacle - Often, the Tabernacle has been removed from the altar and has even been moved outside the Church (e.g. into a chapel). As Pope Pius XII said, "To separate the Tabernacle from the Altar is tantamount to separating two things which, of their very nature, must remain together."]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... WHAT IS PUT OUTSIDE IS A SPECIAL ALTAR FOR THE WORSHIP OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT DAY AND NIGHT. BUT INSIDE THE CHURCHES THERE ARE STILL BLESSED SACRAMENTS FOR WORSHIP ALSO AND FOR HOLY COMMUNION.

VEN. POPE PIUS XII IS RIGHT AND WE ARE RIGHT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEPARATE THE ALTAR AND THE BLESSED SACRAMENT. INSTEAD, WE BUILD ANOTHER ALTAR WITH REPOSITORY OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT FOR DAILY ADORATION AND WORSHIP. THE SEPARATION IS ON THE MIND OF THE SSPX WHO SATANICALLY SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM THE HOLY SEE.

[Communion Under Both Species - This practice has led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity. This practice as was "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority".]

HA HA HA... WHAT A HYPOCRISY. A VERY PHARISAICAL STATEMENT FROM THE SSPX REBELS. HA HA HA...

WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT COMMUNION UNDER BOTH SPECIES IS WRONG OR EVIL? WHO? THIS IS RARELY DONE AND IF THIS IS PERMITTED BY THE CHURCH THEN IT IS OK. THERE IS NO SACRILEGE IN IT BECAUSE THE WORSHIPPERS RECEIVE THEM WITH RESPECT. 

November 29, 2011 2:12 PM