Thursday, June 30, 2011

TUGON SA KAYABANGAN AT KAHIBANGAN NG SAKSI NI BAHO [JEHOVAH WITNESS] ANG BAGONG SULPOT NA SECTA

The Baptism of King Clovis I of the Franks to the Catholic Church. Due to his conversion the Franks were converted to Catholicism and the entire Europe. He later established the Merovingian Dynasty. He was born in 466AD, baptized on December 25, 496 and died on Nov. 27, 511.
 
Anonymous said...
SO SAGUTIN MO DIN ITO,, SA MATEO 24:14
NA HULA NI JESUS, SABI NYA NA
Ang mabuting balita ng kaharian ay ipangangaral sa buong tinatahanang lupa, sa buong mundo, at kung magkaganoon ay darating ang wakas.



IPAGMAMALAKE KO SA IYO NA SAKSI ANG NAKATUPAD NIYAN,

GUMAGAMIT ANG MGA SAKSI NG MAHIGIT 400 WIKA SA BIBLIYA, KAYA ANG BIBLIYA NG MGA SAKSI NI JEHOVAH AY MAY 400 NA IBAT IBANG LENGUAHE

THAT MEANS COVERED NA NITO ANG LAHAT NG LENGUAHE SA DAIGDIG, AT SA 236 COUNTRIES PA.
AT BAHAY BAHAY PA NAGAWA NG MGA SAKSI NI JEHOVAH,


TUMATAGINTING NA KATOTOHANAN YAN SA NGAYON.,..



NOW MAKAPAL ANG MUKHA NINYO NA MAG ANGKIN NA NANGARAL NA KAYO SA BUONG MUNDO? HAHAHAHA

SO INAANGKIN MO BA NA KAYO ANG NAKAPANGARAL SA BUONG MUNDO SA MATEO 24:14?



KUNG NAG AANGKIN KA,
KAILAN NAMAN NINYO NAGAWA IYAN?


MGA WHAT YEAR?


SAGUTIN MO NG PLAIN ANG MGA TANONG KO,

HUWAG YUNG PAIKOT IKOT KA, AT PAIWAS,

SAGUTIN MO NG DERECHO,


ABANGAN MGA KABABAYAN ANG SAGOT NG MGA KATOLIKO.
Fr. Abe, CRS said... 
 
[SO SAGUTIN MO DIN ITO,, SA MATEO 24:14
NA HULA NI JESUS, SABI NYA NA
Ang mabuting balita ng kaharian ay ipangangaral sa buong tinatahanang lupa, sa buong mundo, at kung magkaganoon ay darating ang wakas.]

HA HA HA... TALAGANG SASAGUTIN NAMIN IYAN DAHIL NAPAKADALING SAGUTIN NIYAN. HA HA HA...

[IPAGMAMALAKE KO SA IYO NA SAKSI ANG NAKATUPAD NIYAN,]

BALIW. BAGO PA ISILANG ANG HAYUP NA SI CHARLES TAZE RUSSEL NALIBOT NA NG SANTA IGLESIA CATOLICA ANG BUONG MUNDO PARA IPALAGANAP ANG SALITA NG DIOS. HA HA HA... NANGANGARAP KA NG DILAT. HA HA HA...

[GUMAGAMIT ANG MGA SAKSI NG MAHIGIT 400 WIKA SA BIBLIYA, KAYA ANG BIBLIYA NG MGA SAKSI NI JEHOVAH AY MAY 400 NA IBAT IBANG LENGUAHE]

NANGGAYA NA LANG KAYO DAHIL KAMI ANG NAUNANG GUMAWA NIYAN. KAMI ANG UNANG NAGSALIN NG BIBLIA INTO LATIN, COPTIC, SLAVONIC, AT KAHIT SA ENGLISH KAMI ANG NAUNA. ANG DOUAY-RHEIMS ENGLISH BIBLE NG BIBLE AY NAUNA NAG 4 YEARS SA KING JAMES VERSION NG PROTESTANTE. KAMI ANG UNANG NAGLIMBAG USING THE PRINTING PRESS TO DISSIMINATE THE BIBLES.

GAYA-GAYA PUTO MAYA NA LANG KAYO. HA HA HA...

[THAT MEANS COVERED NA NITO ANG LAHAT NG LENGUAHE SA DAIGDIG, AT SA 236 COUNTRIES PA.]

TANGA, MAS MARAMI PA DIYAN ANG MGA LENGUAHE NG DAIGDIG. HA HA HA... AT PAPANO ANG MGA LENGGUAHE NUNG PANAHON NA WALA PA KAYO AT HINDI PA LUMALABAS MULA IMPIERNO SI CHARLES TAZE RUSSEL? HA HA HA... KAMI ANG NAGSALIN NG BIBLIA SA IBAT-IBANG WIKA. HINDI KAYO. 


[AT BAHAY BAHAY PA NAGAWA NG MGA SAKSI NI JEHOVAH,]

HA HA HA... ANG NAKATIRA SA MGA BAHAY-BAHAY NA PINUPUNTHAN NINYO AY MGA CATOLICO. IBIG SABIHIN NAUNAHAN NA NAMIN KAYO. HA HA HA... LAOS NA KAYO MGA PULPOL. KAYO NAGLILIBOT PA LANG KAMI MGA NAKATIRA NA SA BAWAT BANSA. HA HA HA...

[TUMATAGINTING NA KATOTOHANAN YAN SA NGAYON.,..]

TUMATAGINTING NA KAHANGALAN AT KATANGAHAN. ANG SAKSI NI BAHO AY UTOT LANG KUMPARA SA IGLESIA CATOLICA NA NALIBOT ANG BUONG MUNDO. SINO ANG UNANG NAKAIKOT SA DAIGDIG? SI MAGELLAN NA CATOLICO AT ANG KANYANG MGA KASAMANG MGA AUGUSTINIANS NA MGA PARI. HA HA HA.... HINDI SAKSI NI BAHO. KAHIT ITANONG MO KAY RAJAH HUMABON CATHOLICS ANG UNANG LUMIBOT SA PILIPINAS. HA HA HA...

[NOW MAKAPAL ANG MUKHA NINYO NA MAG ANGKIN NA NANGARAL NA KAYO SA BUONG MUNDO? HAHAHAHA]

IKAW ANG MAKAPAL ANG MUKA. DITO NGA SA SORSOGON CITY E MAS MARAMI PA ANG LIBAG NAMING MGA CATOLICO SA BILANG NG MIEMBRO NYO. HA HA HA... HINDI NGA SILA MAKAPAGLIBOT DITO KASI ANG MGA MIEMBRO NINYO DITO PURO MGA TANGA AT INUTIL SA LIPUNAN. HA HA HA... KAHIT NA MGA IGOROT, IFUGAO, BALUGA AT NEGRITOS AY NAGING MGA CATOLICO KASI KAMI ANG NAUNANG NANGARAL SA KANILA. HA HA HA...

MANGARAP KA NG GISING.

KAMI ANG UNANG NANGARAL SA BRITANNIA, SA RUSSIA, SA CHINA, SA JAPAN AT SA IBAT IBANG PANIG NG MUNDO.

MGA SAKSI NI BAHO, KULELAT. HA HA HA... SPEAKING OF MAKAPAL ANG MUKA KAYO YON. DAHIL MARAMING LUGAR NA WALA KAYO AT HINDI NYO PA NARATING. KAHIT DITO SA PILIPINAS. KAYO ANG ISA SA PINAKA INUTIL AT WALANG SILBING RELIHIYON. HA HA HA...

[SO INAANGKIN MO BA NA KAYO ANG NAKAPANGARAL SA BUONG MUNDO SA MATEO 24:14?]

SIEMPRE. KAMI ANG NAUNA SA PILIPINAS, KAMI ANG NAUNA SA RUSSIA, KAMI ANG NAUNA SA JAPAN AT SA KOREA, KAMI ANG NAUNA SA GERMANY AT FRANCE, KAMI ANG NAUNA SA INYO SA LAHAT LAHAT. TAE LANG ANG SAKSI NI BAHO KUMPARA SA IGLESIA CATOLICA. HA HA HA...

[KUNG NAG AANGKIN KA,
KAILAN NAMAN NINYO NAGAWA IYAN?]

NAGAWA NAMIN NUNG PANAHON NG ROMAN EMPIRE, NAGAWA NAMIN NUONG PANAHON NG HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE, NAGAWA NAMIN NOONG PANAHON NI CHRISTIOPHER COLUMBUS SA LATIN AMERICA, SI MATEO RICCI SA CHINA, SI ST. FRANCIS XAVIER SA JAPAN... NAGAWA NAMIN NUONG PANAHON NI MAGELLAN AT MIGUEL LOPEZ DE LEGAZPI... NAGAWA NAMIN SA LAHAT NG PANAHON MULA PANAHON NG MGA APOSTOL, HANGGANG NGAYON DAHIL SA HALOS BUONG DAIGDIG MAY CAPILYA AT SIMBAHAN KAMI. KAYO MGA PALABOY NA NAGPAPAPANSIN LANG. HA HA HA...


[MGA WHAT YEAR?]

FROM YEAR 33AD UNTIL 2011 CONTINUOUS AND NON-STOP EVANGELIZATION.

OUR EWTN TV PROCLAIMS TO 600 MILLION VIEWERS A DAY AND OUR VATICAN RADIO STATIONS REACHES EVERY CORNER OF THE WORLD SINCE GUGLIELMO MARCONI INVENTED THE RADIO. SA KATUNAYAN E SI MARCONI MISMO ANG PERSONAL NA NAGBUKAS NG VATICAN RADIO. KAYA TAE LANG KAYO SA AMIN.

SA BIBLIA PUBLICATION, ANG INVENTOR NG PRINTING PRESS AY SI JOHANNNES GUTTENBERG NA CATHOLIC DIN. BIBLE ANG UNANG NILIMBAG. KAYA TAE LANG KAYO KUMPARA SA AMIN. HA HA HA...


[SAGUTIN MO NG PLAIN ANG MGA TANONG KO,

HUWAG YUNG PAIKOT IKOT KA, AT PAIWAS,

SAGUTIN MO NG DERECHO,]

YAN ANG SAGOT KO. NALIBOT NA NAMIN ANG BUONG MUNDO DAHIL ANG MGA UNANG NAGLIBOT SA MUNDO AY MGA CATOLICO AT HINDI MGA SAKSI NI BAHO. YAN NGANG FOUNDER NYO NA SI CHARLES TAZE RUSSEL AY BOBO SA HEBREW. KAYA NAMAN KATANGAHAN ANG PINAGTUTURO SA INYO. HA HA HA...


[ABANGAN MGA KABABAYAN ANG SAGOT NG MGA KATOLIKO.]

AYAN MGA KABABAYAN ANG SAGOT NG MGA CATOLICO. HA HA HA... ALAM NAMAN NINYO MGA KABABAYAN KUNG SINO ANG NAUNA SA CATOLICO AT MGA SAKSI NI BAHO NA NAGPUNTA SA MGA LUGAR NINYO AT KUNG SINO ANG MARAMING NANINIRAHAN SA LUGAR NINYO AT KUNG SINO ANG UNANG NANGARAL SA INYO NG PANANAMPALATAYANG CRISTIANO. HA HA HA...

SIRA-ULO ANG SAKSI NI BAHO NA ITO. NANGANGARAP NG GISING. HA HA HA... 

KATANUNGAN TUNGKOL SA DIVORCE

The Marriage of the Virgin b Raphael
SHENGTON said...

Hello po Father Abe, good morning po. :)

Ako po ay isang Roman Catholic po at meron lang po sana akong itatanong sa inyo. Pero bago ako magtanong po eh gusto ko lang pong sabihin sa inyo na ang galing niyo po talaga. Para sa akin ikaw po ay isa sa mga magagaling na Apologists dito sa ating bansa po Father. By the way Father, nagstart na po ako magread ng bible para maging isang taga-pagtanggol ng faith ng Katoliko. Gusto ko pong maging isang Apologist ng simbahang Katoliko kasi nakikita ko mismo dito sa amin na may mga katolikong mga kabataan na laging natatalo sa ibang mga relihiyon. Gusto ko silang sagutin pero wala po akong ma-isagot kasi wala pa akong alam sa bibliya. Kaya ngayon nagbabasa na po ako para maipagtanggol ko po ang Simbahang Katoliko sa mga naninira nito. Ipagpapatuloy at ipagtatanggol ko po ang ating relihiyon hanggang sa huling hininga ko dito sa mundo.

Ito na po ang tanong ko: Meron po akong tanong about sa divorce Father, kasi nagugulohan po ako sa Matthew 19:8 at Matthew 19:9

Matthew 19:8
He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way.

Alam ko po na pinayagan ni Moses ang divorce dahil sa sobrang katigasan ng mga ulo ng mga tao.

Ang tanong ko po:
1. Yong pagpayag ba ni Moses sa divorce eh ok rin ba sa Panginoon natin?
2. Kung hindi po, bakit po hindi niya pinarusaan ng Panginoon natin ang mga tao or bakit hindi niya pinagalitan si Moses sa pagpayag ng divorce?
3. Kung pinayagan naman po, ang ibig bang sabihin ba nito eh mismong Panginoon natin ang lumabag sa kanyang utos?

Alam ko po na hate na hate ng Panginoon natin ang divorce. Kaya nagtatanong po ako kasi para yatang nagcontradict ang dating pero alam ko po na merong explanation po dito.

Matthew 19:9
And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Dito naman po sa Matthew 19:9 nagugulohan rin ako. Sa Matthew po may “exception” po pero sa Mark 10:11-12 at Luke 16:18 ay walang “exception”.

Tanong ko po:
1. Bakit po may “exception” kay Matthew, samantalang wala namang exception kay Mark at Luke? Ano pong ibig sabihin niyan po Father?
2. Bakit walang “exception” sa kay Mark at Luke po?

Kasi may ka debate po ako na pumayag daw ang Panginoon natin sa divorce. Ginamit ko yong Malachi 2:16 pero ginamitan niya po ako ng Matthew 8-9. Parang na speechless po ako, wala po akong ma isagot dito po kaya parang talo ako. Patulong po at paki-explain po Father.

Sana mapansin niyo po ang post ko.

Salamat po sa inyo at God bless you po.
Fr. Abe, CRS said... 
 
[Hello po Father Abe, good morning po. :)]

GOOD DAY TO YOU.

[Ako po ay isang Roman Catholic po at meron lang po sana akong itatanong sa inyo. Pero bago ako magtanong po eh gusto ko lang pong sabihin sa inyo na ang galing niyo po talaga. Para sa akin ikaw po ay isa sa mga magagaling na Apologists dito sa ating bansa po Father.]

TO GOD BE THE GLORY.

[By the way Father, nagstart na po ako magread ng bible para maging isang taga-pagtanggol ng faith ng Katoliko. Gusto ko pong maging isang Apologist ng simbahang Katoliko kasi nakikita ko mismo dito sa amin na may mga katolikong mga kabataan na laging natatalo sa ibang mga relihiyon. Gusto ko silang sagutin pero wala po akong ma-isagot kasi wala pa akong alam sa bibliya. Kaya ngayon nagbabasa na po ako para maipagtanggol ko po ang Simbahang Katoliko sa mga naninira nito. Ipagpapatuloy at ipagtatanggol ko po ang ating relihiyon hanggang sa huling hininga ko dito sa mundo.]

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GENEROSITY OF SPIRIT TO DEFEND THE FAITH AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

[Ito na po ang tanong ko: Meron po akong tanong about sa divorce Father, kasi nagugulohan po ako sa Matthew 19:8 at Matthew 19:9

Matthew 19:8
He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been this way.]

OK.

[Alam ko po na pinayagan ni Moses ang divorce dahil sa sobrang katigasan ng mga ulo ng mga tao.]

YES, HINDI TALAGA BATAS NG DIOS ANG DIVORCE KUNDI BATAS NG TAO. AT ITO AY BUNGA NG KATIGASAN NG ULO NG MGA TAO LABAN SA KALOOBAN NG DIOS.

[Ang tanong ko po:
1. Yong pagpayag ba ni Moses sa divorce eh ok rin ba sa Panginoon natin?]

HINDI OK SA KANYA KASI NGA ANG KALOOBAN NIYA AY ANG PAG-ISAHIN ANG MAG-ASAWA AT PAPAGTIBAYIN NG KANILANG KASAL.

SUBALIT ITO AY PINAHINTULUTAN NG DIOS. GOD DIDN'T APPROVED IT BUT HE SIMPLY ALLOWED IT IN RESPECT TO OUR FREEDOM.

[2. Kung hindi po, bakit po hindi niya pinarusaan ng Panginoon natin ang mga tao or bakit hindi niya pinagalitan si Moses sa pagpayag ng divorce?]

PINARUSAHAN NIYA SILA. KAYA NAMAN ANG ISRAEL AY NAGDUSA NG HUSTO SA DISIERTO AT LAGING PINAGAGALITAN NG DIOS SA PAMAMAGITAN NG MGA PROPETA.

ANG DIVORCE AY NAGING LEGAL NA BATAS NG TAO SUBALIT HINDI PA RIN ITO BATAS NG DIOS. IT IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF "NOT EVERYTHING THAT IS LEGAL IS MORAL."

[3. Kung pinayagan naman po, ang ibig bang sabihin ba nito eh mismong Panginoon natin ang lumabag sa kanyang utos?]

HINAYAAN SILA NG DIOS NA GAWIN NILA ANG KANILANG GUSTO SUBALIT ANG DIOS AY HINDI NAGBABAGO SA KANYANG UTOS. ANG TAO ANG NALUBLOB SA MALI HINDI ANG DIOS. 


[Alam ko po na hate na hate ng Panginoon natin ang divorce. Kaya nagtatanong po ako kasi para yatang nagcontradict ang dating pero alam ko po na merong explanation po dito.]

WALANG CONTRADICTION. KASI HINDI NAMAN SI GOD ANG NAGPAHINTULOT KUNDI ANG MGA SUWAIL AT MATITIGAS ANG ULO NA MGA TAO.

KAGAYA SA IBANG BANSA NA LEGALIZE ANG ABORTION - KILLING OF BABIES INSIDE THE WOMB OF THE MOTHER. GOD HATES KILLING OF BABIES BUT THOSE WHO IMPLEMENT THEM ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE.

[Matthew 19:9
And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Dito naman po sa Matthew 19:9 nagugulohan rin ako. Sa Matthew po may “exception” po pero sa Mark 10:11-12 at Luke 16:18 ay walang “exception”.

Tanong ko po:
1. Bakit po may “exception” kay Matthew, samantalang wala namang exception kay Mark at Luke? Ano pong ibig sabihin niyan po Father?]

UNA, DAPAT MONG MAUNAWAAN ANG HUSTO ANG CONTEXT NG TALATA. ANG SABI "HINDI DAPAT I DIVORCE NG LALAKI ANG ASAWA NIYANG BABAE." YUNG CLAUSE NA "EXCEPT IN CASE OF IMMORALITY" AY DAPAT MALIWANAGAN:

(a) Ang babaeng nahuling nakiapid o pumatol sa iba ay pinaparusahan ng kamatayan... binabato hanggang mamatay [cf. Deuteronomy 22:22].

SO, THE MARRIAGE BOND SHALL COME TO AN END BECAUSE THE ADULTERERS SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH DEATH. OF COURSE, THE FAITHFUL PARTNER IS THEN FREE TO REMARRY.

(b) Ang exception clause ay pagtatanggal ng dealth penalty for adulterers. Sa halip na patayin ay hihiwalan na lamang. Dahil sinira na nito ang Sagradong Pag-iisa ng mag-asawa.

SUBALIT, KUNG GANITO ANG SET UP HINDI PA RIN BINIBIGYAN NI JESUS NG KARAPATAN ANG BAWAT PARTY NA MAG-ASAWA NG IBA DAHIL BUHAY ANG PARTNER.

KAYA ANG GANITONG SET-UP AY SIMILAR LAMANG SA ATING 'LEGAL SEPARATION'. MAGKAHIWALAY DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES PERO MAG-ASAWA PA RIN. HINDI PA RIN NAPAPAWALANG BISA ANG BIGKIS NG KASAL HANGGANG KAMATAYAN.

ITO AY SINUSUPORTAHAN NG NO EXCEPTION CLAUSE NI MARK. IBIG SABIHIN TALAGANG "NO TO DIVORCE". HINDI PWEDENG MAGHIWALAY ANG MAG-ASAWA DAHIL LANG SA CAPRICIO NG PARTNERS. IN BOTH CASE DAPAT MAIPRESERVE ANG KABANALAN NG KASAL.


2. Bakit walang “exception” sa kay Mark at Luke po?

KASI ST. MATTHEW EXPLAINS THE TERRIBLE EFFECT NG INFIDELITIES OR FORNICATION BEFORE MARRIAGE. MARK AND LUKE DECIDED NOT TO PUT IT SO THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT THINK THAT THE LORD JESUS ALREADY PERMITTED DIVORCE ALSO. THEN HE WILL BE LIKE MOSES INSTEAD OF BETTER THAN MOSES.


Kasi may ka debate po ako na pumayag daw ang Panginoon natin sa divorce. Ginamit ko yong Malachi 2:16 pero ginamitan niya po ako ng Matthew 8-9. Parang na speechless po ako, wala po akong ma isagot dito po kaya parang talo ako. Patulong po at paki-explain po Father.

HINDI PUMAYAG ANG PANGINOON SA DIVORCE AS WE MEAN IT TODAY. NA KAPAG AYAW NA NANG MAG-ASAWA ANG ISAT ISA AY MAGDE DECLARE NG DIVORCE TAPOS MALAYA NANG MAG-ASAWA ULIT KAYA MAY MGA AMERCANO NA GAYA NI ELIZABETH TAYLOR NA 9 ANG NAGING ASAWA. O NO, NO, NO....

ANG PINAGSAMA NG DIOS AY HINDI DAPAT PAGHIWALAYIN NG TAO. YUN NAMANG NAG COMMIT NG ADULTERY OR FORNICATION AY SUMIRA SA KABANALAN NG KASAL PERO WALANG SINABI ANG PANGINOON NA PWEDE NA SILANG MAGPAPALIT PALIT NG ASAWA. HINDI. SA HALIP ANG PUMATOL SA KANILA AY NAGKO COMMIT PA RIN NG ADULTERY.

ANOTHER THING, SOME SCHOLARS EXPLAINS NA ANG TINUTUKOY NA FORNICATION DITO AY COMMITTED BEFORE MARRIAGE BUT DISCOVERED ONLY LATER ON WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN UNITED. HINDI AFTER KASI KAPAG NAG FORNICATE AFTER MARRIAGE E DEATH SENTENCE ANG PUNISHMENT NON. SO, ANG TERM NA DIVORCE DITO AY HINDI EQUIVALENT NG AMERICAN DIVORCE BUT MORE ON 'ANNULMENT'.... DECLARATION THAT THE MARRIAGE WAS NULL AND VOID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

Sana mapansin niyo po ang post ko.

PASENSYA NA. MARAMING INAASIKASONG MGA QUESTIONS E.


Salamat po sa inyo at God bless you po. 

WELCOME AND GOD BLESS YOU TOO.

Wednesday, June 29, 2011

ANO BA ANG MGA TINATAKAN NA ALIPIN NG DIOS MGA CATOLICO BA O MGA MANALISTA?

The Blessed Virgin and the Apostles during the Pentecost
 
Anonymous said...

Good day father.

May nakadebatehan mo ako n isang Iglesia ni Cain kahit butata n Father aba Fight p rin..

nag post ako ng sagot mula sa blog mo about sa
ANG MGA KAMPON NG DEMONIO AY MAY TANDA SA NOO. SUBALIT ANG MGA TUNAY NA ALAGAD NG DIOS AY MAY TATAK SA NOO. PINATUTUNAYAN IYAN NG BIBLIA:

tapos heto po Father yung sagot ko sa kanya n kinuha ko sa blogsite mo...

Pahayag 7:3 (Ang Salita ng Diyos) 3Sinabi ng anghel sa kanila: Huwag ninyong saktan ang lupa o ang dagat o ang mga punong-kahoy hanggang hindi namin nataTAKANan sa NOO ang mga alipin ng aming Diyos.


SEE, MAY TATAK SA NOO ANG MGA TUNAY NA LINGKOD NG DIOS. KAMI MAY TATAK SA NOO. KAYO BA MERON? HE, HE, HE... ANONG TATAK ITO? TATAK NG PANGALAN NG AMA AT NG ANAK:


Rev 14:1 [Ang Biblia] 'Ang apat na put apat na libong may PANGALAN NIYA [Cordero], at PANGALAN NG KANYANG AMA, na nasususlat sa kanikaniyang NOO.'


O ANO BA ANG TATAK NAMIN SA NUO? TATAK NG KRUS NI CRISTO ANG PINASLANG NA CORDERO AT HABANG ITINATATAK ITO SA AMIN ANG SINASABI AY: "SA NGALAN NG AMA AT NG ANAK AT NG ESPIRITO SANTO."
YAN ANG TUNAY NA PALATANDAAN NG TUNAY NA LINGKOD NG DIOS.

tapos inasar ko p n wala kyo nun d b mga Iglesia ni Manalo..

tapos nag Reply po sya Father.. Heto p yung Reply nya,,,

SEE, MAY TATAK SA NOO ANG MGA TUNAY NA LINGKOD NG DIOS. pero may tamang bilang ba ang mga tinatakan meron ilan 144,000 kasama ba ang panahong cristano ngayon hindi sino lamang ang tinatakan At sinabi sa akin ang bilang ng mga tinatakan, 144,000 buhat sa labindalawang lipi ng Israel. 5-8 Labindalawang libo mula sa bawat lipi ng Israel: Juda, Reuben, Gad, Aser, Neftali, Manases, Simeon, Levi, Isacar, Zebulun, Jose, at Benjamin.


ahahaha eto ang nakasulat sa pah.14:1-5
1 Tumingin ako, at nakita ko ang Kordero na nakatayo sa Bundok ng Zion, kasama ang 144,000 tao. Nakasulat sa kanilang noo ang pangalan ng Kordero at ang pangalan ng kanyang Ama. 2 At narinig ko mula sa langit ang isang tinig na sinlakas ng mga alon sa dagat at dagundong ng kulog. Ang tinig na narinig ko'y parang tugtugan ng mga alpa. 3 Sila'y umaawit ng isang bagong awit sa harap ng trono, at sa harap ng apat na nilalang na buhay at sa harap ng mga pinuno. Walang makaunawa sa awit na iyon kundi ang 144,000 na tinubos mula sa sanlibutan. 4 Ito ang mga lalaking nanatiling malinis at hindi nagkaroon ng anumang kaugnayan sa mga babae. Sumusunod sila sa Kordero saanman siya magpunta. Sila'y tinubos mula sa buong sangkatauhan bilang mga unang handog sa Diyos at sa Kordero. 5 Hindi sila nagsinungaling kailanman at wala silang anumang kapintasan.


may sinabi bang kasama ang nasa panahong ngayon ang mga tinatakan hindi ea sino lamang Tumingin ako, at nakita ko ang Kordero na nakatayo sa Bundok ng Zion, kasama ang 144,000 tao

tapos sabi nya sa akin masyado daw ako excited,,
di daw tayo kasama dun daw po. tapos sabi nya huwag daw puputulin ang talata... :(

Father ano po reaction nyo po dito,, di ako nakasagot,,


tnx father abe,, and God Bless you po, Ingat!!


yours. Truly...

Shane...

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 
 
DEAR BRO. SHANE,

THANK YOU FOR DEFENDING THE FAITH LABAN SA IGLESIA NI MANALO. HE HE HE... TAMA ANG GINAWA MONG PAGDEPENSA AT ANG MGA TALATANG IYONG GINAMIT. KAYA LANG DAHIL HINDI MO BINASA NG MABUTI ANG BUONG AKLAT NG REVELATION E MADALI KA NILANG NALITO. MAHALAGA NA DAPAT BASAHIN MO ANG BUONG BOOK OF REVELATION, PIECE BY PIECE, LINE BY LINE.

NILITO KA NILA SA PAGDADALA SA IYO SA REVELATION CHAPTER 14 KUNG SAAN SINASABI NA ANG MGA TINATAKAN AY 144,000. SUBALIT HINDI REV. 14 ANG UMPISA NG PAGSASALAYSAY HINGIL SA PAGTATATAK. ITO AY NAG-UMPISA SA REVELATION CHAPTER 7. GANITO ANG SABI:

Rev 7:1 At pagkatapos nito ay nakita ko ang apat na anghel na nakatayo sa apat na sulok ng lupa, na pinipigil ang apat na hangin ng lupa, upang huwag humihip ang hangin sa lupa, o sa dagat man, o sa anomang punong kahoy.

ANG MGA ANGHEL NA ITO AY HINDI TAO KUNDI ANGHEL.

Rev 7:2 At nakita ko ang ibang anghel na umaakyat mula sa sikatan ng araw, na taglay ang tatak ng Dios na buhay: at siya'y sumigaw ng tinig na malakas sa apat na anghel na pinagkaloobang maipahamak ang lupa at ang dagat,

HINDI SI MANALO IYAN KASI SI MANALO HINDI UMAKYAT SA SIKATAN NG ARAW KUNDI NANATILI SA LUPA AT NGAYON AY NAKALIBING SA LUPA. NABUBULOK ANG KATAWAN.

Rev 7:3 Na nagsasabi, Huwag ninyong ipahamak ang lupa, kahit ang dagat, kahit ang mga punong kahoy, hanggang sa aming matatakan sa kanilang mga noo ang mga alipin ng ating Dios.

ANG SABI ANG MGA ALIPIN NG DIOS ANG TATATAKAN. HINDI SINABI NA MGA ISRAELITANG ALIPIN NG DIOS LANG. KUNDI LAHAT NG ALIPIN NG DIOS.

Rev 7:4 At narinig ko ang bilang ng mga natatakan, na isang daan at apat na pu't apat na libo, na natatakan, sa bawa't angkan ng mga anak ni Israel:

ITO ANG MGA NATATAKAN MULA SA LIPI NG ISRAEL. SUBALIT WALA BANG ALIPIN ANG DIOS NA NASA LABAS NG LIPI NG ISRAEL? HE HE HE... SIEMPRE MERON.

Rev 7:5 Sa angkan ni Juda ay labingdalawang libo ang tinatakan; Sa angkan ni Ruben ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Gad ay labingdalawang libo; 

 
Rev 7:6 Sa angkan ni Aser ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Neftali ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Manases ay labingdalawang libo; 

 
Rev 7:7 Sa angkan ni Simeon ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Levi ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Isacar ay labingdalawang libo; 

 
Rev 7:8 Sa angkan ni Zabulon ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Jose ay labingdalawang libo; Sa angkan ni Benjamin ay labingdalawang libo ang tinatakan.

IYAN ANG LISTAHAN NG MGA ALAGAD NG DIOS MULA SA LIPI NG ISRAEL.

ACTUALLY THAT NUMBER IS NOT SIMPLY NUMERICAL BUT ALSO SYMBOLICAL IT REFERS COMPLETE RESTORATION OF THE KINGDOM OF ISRAEL UNDER THE KINGDOM OF THE MESSIAH. 


NGUNIT HINDI DIYAN NAGTATAPOS IYAN. MAY KARUGTONG PA. SABI NGA NILA E HUWAG MONG PUPUTULIN ANG TALATA. HE HE HE...

ITO ANG KARUGTONG:

Rev. 7:9 "Pagkatapos nito'y nakita ko ang NAPAKARAMING TAONG DI KAYANG BILANGIN NINO MAN! Sila'y mula sa BAWAT BANSA, LAHI, BAYAN AT WIKA. Nakatayo sila sa harap ng trono at ng Kordero, na nakadamit ng puti at may hawak na MGA PALASPAS." [Magandang Balita Biblia]

HA HA HA... CATHOLICS YAN. TAYO YAN HINDI SILA. BAKIT?

1. NAPAKARAMI NATIN. Sila KONTENG-KONTE. HA HA HA...

2. HINDI TAYO KAYANG BILANGIN NINUMAN. Para tayong buhangin sa dagat at mga bituin sa langit. Estimatedly tayo ay 1.3 Billion pero estimation lang iyon. Ang mga MANOLISTA NABIBILANG KASI MAY LISTAHAN SILA. HA HA HA...

3. GALING SA BAWAT BANSA, BAYAN, LAHI AT WIKA. Tayo lang ang ganon. Naruon tayo sa lahat ng lugar ng lupa. Ha ha ha... sila HINDE. HINDING-HINDE. HA HA HA... MERON LANG SILANG PAILAN-ILANG ATSAY SA IBANG LUGAR PERO MARAMI ANG WALA SILA. HA HA HA...

4. NAKADAMIT NG PUTI. Ayan e lagi nga nila tayong pinupulaan na nakadamit tupa daw. E d ayan nakadamit ng puti. Ganyan ang damit natin sa Binyag. Ganyan ang damit ng ating mga pari. Ha ha ha...

5. MAY HAWAK NA MGA PALASPAS O PALM BRANCHES. HA HA HA... SINO ANG MAY PALASPAS? TAYONG CATHOLICS LANG. WALA SILA NON. HA HA HA... MAY PALASPAS ANG MGA MALILIGTAS. HA HA HA... ITO ANG MGA TINATAKAN NA HINDI JUDIO. ANO YON? MGA CATHOLICS. HA HA HA... 


PANGHULI BRO. SHANE, SABI NILA HINDI DAW TAYONG CATHOLICS ANG TINATAKAN DAHIL SA 144,000 LANG MULA SA LIPI NI ISRAEL. KUNG GANON NASA IMPIERNO SI MANALO DAHIL FILIPINO IYA. HINDI ISRAELITA SI ERANEO MANALO AT SI EDUARDO MANALO. HA HA HA...

PERO SA ATIN SI ST. JOSEPH AT MAMA MARY AY JEWS. SINA STS. PETER AND PAUL AT IBA PA. HE HE HE... TAYO PA RIN ANG PANALO. BOTH JEWS AND NON JEWS SERVANTS OF GOD NA TATATAKAN AY MGA CATHOLICS. 


Tuesday, June 28, 2011

ANSWERING THE CALL FOR HELP BY CATHOLIC STUDENT

The Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Elizabeth during the Visitation
 
Anonymous said... 
 
Good Morning po Father!

Gusto ko lamang po magkweto sa inyo sa klase ko sa Philosophy teacher ko and at the same time po matulungan at madagdagan po ninyo ang mga sagot na sinabi ko po sa professor ko.


Dapat po topic namin nung araw na iyon eh Pre-Socratic Philosophers po ... Eh kaso po napunta po agad kami sa research work ng libro and ito po ang unang tanong.

Why does Catholic make the sign of the cross when they pass the church?

Marami pong sumagot, because to give respect daw po , because inside of it is where the tabernacle can be found and Jesus is inside it , tapos ang sagot ko po ganyan din po . Then tinanong niya po kami kung bkit daw po ba nag sign of the cross, ang sabi ko po kasi

We Glory in the Cross, kasi po it is the sign of the triumph of our Lord against the devil our enemy.

Then sabi nya po, may nabasa raw po siyang Doctrine daw ng Catholic Church na sabi nya po eh nakasulat raw po doon na " Catholic make the sign of the Cross to be protected. "

Tapos po ang follow up question nya po, Does anyone here made the sign of the cross whenever you leave your house, I raised up my hand firmly! Then he ask me why... I told him that, I make the sign of the cross whenever I leave the house to ask for prayer to our Lord to protect me in any harm and from the enemies on my way.

Then he said " To protected from the enemies, so meaning whenever you pass by the church and make the sign of the cross , the church is the enemy. "
I told him that the enemy that I am talking about are those cannot be seen by our naked eyes, those supernatural being " the devil".

Then he said that " So you mean to say that there are enemies inside the Church." And i said yes but I am not talking on the Church itself.
( kaya ko po sinabing there is enemy inside the church kasi po diba the smoke of the devil enter the church, kaya nga po maraming temptation minsan sa misa, like inaantok preventing from listening the gospel and etc..)

Tapos po kung ano ano na po ang sinabi ng professor ko.. and stick to his answer na " church daw po ay enemy. " Sabi nya po kasi nabasa niya raw po iyon sa " Ang antanda ng Krus" na " we make the s.o.t.c to be protected to the enemy, doctrine daw po iyon ng catholic, eh ayoko naman pong bastusin siya at sabihing hindi lang naman ganyan kaikli ang doctrine ng catholic tungkol sa SOTC. 


Saka po diba father naisip ko lang po i-consider ko na ang sagot nya na to be protected to the enemy, so ang enemy takot sa cross, eh ang tanong ba takot ba ang CATHOLIC CHURCH sa Cross? Hindi po diba? Lahat po ng Church natin ay may Cross at mahal na mahal natin . So ibig sabihin HINDI po ENEMY ang CHURCH. ( sayang Father di ko nasabi sa kanya! ahaha. ) additional info po kung pwede po... 


Tapos po next question eh

Why does Catholic ask for intercession of Saints , Holy people and the Blessed Virgin Mary?

Sabi po ng iba kong klasmeyt eh dahil raw po syempre Mother of God po si Mary so malakas po siya sa Anak .. Sumang ayon naman po yung professor ko. Hindi na po ako nag argue sa kanya pero nawindang po yung tenga ko sa sinabi nya So ibig sabihin daw po " So Mother of God si Mary so Mary is God?"


I said No! Then nag explain po ako na Mama Mary is the HIGHLY Favored of God kaya we ask for her intercession.. And the prayer of a righteous man is strong as it is written in the Bible. Tapos nag yung sa God issue po sabi ko po sa kanya si Mama Mary eh THEOTOKOS, nawindang po ata sa word na ginamit ko , halatang mang mang po sa Latin ... hindi po natuloy ang pag explain ko so nagbitaw po siya ng salita... " A man is a man so its parent is a man, An animal came from an animal, an insect, so a God should be born from a God. Tapos po tumayo po ako ulit, sabi ko sa kanya ang babaw po ng logic.. medyo pumalya na po ako dito at nataranta, kaya po ang napaliwanag ko po sabi ko Sir ang layo na layo ng " MOTHER OF GOD sa MARY IS GOD. " ini-spell ko pa po sa buong class hahahha... nagtawanan po mga klasmeyt ko... kaya po biglang tumawag ng ibang tao.... ( paki dagdagan naman po yung explanation na dapat po father para nxt time po alam ko na kung ano isasagot ko alam ko po di ko po napagtanggol ng husto si Mama Mary. )

Tapos po nakikinig na lang po ako sa kanya kasi high blood na rin po ako, nagbitiw po siya ng salita na naalala niya raw po ung isang argument ng kakilala niya na doon raw po sa Mary is the Mother of God eh sinisira ko raw po yung " God is the Alpha and the Omega" kasi raw po binigyan ko raw po siya ng simula which is Mama Mary raw po." Hindi na po ako nakapag rebutal kasi po hindi po agad ako makapag react medyo high blood na po ako sa kanya hahaha... 


Then na realize ko po dapat po pala tinanong ko sa kanya na EH DI SINO GUMAWA KAY MAMA MARY? SUMULPOT BIGLA? pakidagdagan na lamang po father hahaha... 


Tapos daldal na po siya ng daldal, even Rizal daw po ... galit daw po siya sa Catholic Church ... in Noli and El Fili raw po makikita ang proof sa mga pari... Damaso raw po... Tapos po nagtaas po ako ng kamay... nabasa ko po kasi yung retraction ni Rizal sa Blog nyo tungkol sa catholic church and nag explain po ako sa buong class ... Sabi ko po Sino kasama ni Simon bago siya mamatay sa last part ng El Fili? Hindi ba si Fr. Florentino ... and sabi ko po na si Rizal ay nagbalik sa Santa Iglesia bago siya mamatay , he even confessed and receive communion. Tapos sabi nya po that's impossible daw... nakooo ahhaha... kung di lang po siya prof. hahamunin ko po iyon na maglabas ng ibidensya hahhaa...

Napakarami pa po niyang sinabi na kahit na po Catholic siya eh hindi po akma sa teaching natin... May hindi po ako alam sa mga sinabi niya Father paki sagot na rin po,

Yung mga gamit raw po ni Blessed John Paul II eh blessed na rin daw po sabi nya, pati yung krib, even yung bahay ... kaya raw po tinatago natin sabi nya po we worship and pray pa raw po ... ( na alam ko naman po na di tayo nag worship doon and pray) ... gusto ko lang po malamn kung totoo po na halos lahat po ng gamit ni Blessed John Paul II ay itinatago po ... Alam ko po na mahalaga ang mga ito and in fact diba po may kwento sa bible na nahawakan lang po ata ung isang tela ng isang santo and gumaling ... paki clear po di ko na p kasi maalala hahaha ^^..


And isa pa rin po ... sabi niya po na holy raw po yung dugo kaya po dapat lang daw pong ibalik sa lupa and marumi daw po ito so makakasama sa health ( we are talking po sa dugo ng baboy na hindi kinakain ng Inc ) ... nakalagay raw po iyon sa bible na Holy ang dugo.. saan po ba nakalagay yun? at meron po ba talaga? mukang wala po haha.. Dugo po ni Christ yes ... pero baboy? I wonder hahhaa...

And bkit po ang jehova eh ayaw magpa blood transfussion ? Bakit po father?

Sige po father, medyo mahaba na po ang kwento ko hahaha... Ewan ko po diyan sa prof. ko na iyan Catholic pa naman din po... Paki dagdagan na lamang po ng mga tamang sagot father ung tungkol sa mga iyan Father... Maraming maraming salamat po! Isa po ako sa inspired na Reader ng Blog ninyo Father and willing to protect our Doctrine , our Faith and our Church.! Salamat po! 


Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[Good Morning po Father!]

GOOD MORNING TOO.

[Gusto ko lamang po magkweto sa inyo sa klase ko sa Philosophy teacher ko and at the same time po matulungan at madagdagan po ninyo ang mga sagot na sinabi ko po sa professor ko.]

 
ANONG SCHOOL KA NAG-AARAL? PWEDE BANG MALAMAN? AT ANONG RELIGION NG PROFESSOR MO?

[Dapat po topic namin nung araw na iyon eh Pre-Socratic Philosophers po ... Eh kaso po napunta po agad kami sa research work ng libro and ito po ang unang tanong.]


COMMON TACTICS IYAN NG MGA TEACHERS NA IBA ANG RELIGION. GINAGAMIT NILA ANG MGA SUBJECTS NILA PARA SA KANILANG MGA KAWALANG-HIYAAN AT KASINUNGALINGAN. DAPAT IREKLAMO SA DEAN ANG PROFESSOR NA IYAN.

[Why does Catholic make the sign of the cross when they pass the church?]


BECAUSE WE GIVE GLORY TO GOD AND WE DECLARE OUR ALLEGIANCE TO CHRIST OUR SAVIOR AND REDEEMER WHO SAVED AS WELL AS REDEEMED US BY HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS. WE ARE SHOWING HIM THAT WE GLORY IN HIS CROSS:


Galatians 6:14 As for me, however, I will boast only about the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ; for by means of his cross the world is dead to me, and I am dead to the world.

AS TRUE CHRISTIANS WE CATHOLICS BOAST ONLY ABOUT THE CROSS OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST BECAUSE IT IS OUR SIGN THAT WE ARE DEAD TO THE WORLD. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT PROFESSOR IS THAT HE IS DEAD TO CHRIST BUT ALIVE TO THE WORLD. HE BELONGS TO SATAN AND NOT TO THE BODY OF CHRIST WHICH IS THE CHURCH.
 

[Marami pong sumagot, because to give respect daw po , because inside of it is where the tabernacle can be found and Jesus is inside it , tapos ang sagot ko po ganyan din po . Then tinanong niya po kami kung bkit daw po ba nag sign of the cross, ang sabi ko po kasi

We Glory in the Cross, kasi po it is the sign of the triumph of our Lord against the devil our enemy.]
 

TAMA ANG MGA SAGOT NINYO.

[Then sabi nya po, may nabasa raw po siyang Doctrine daw ng Catholic Church na sabi nya po eh nakasulat raw po doon na " Catholic make the sign of the Cross to be protected."]
 

NAGSISINUNGALING YAN. PILITIN NYO SIYA NA IPAKITA SA INYO ANG AKLAT NA BINASA NIYA. REMEMBER ANG OFFICIAL DOCTRINE NATIN AY NASA CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. KAY PAG HINDI CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ANG BINASA NIYA IYON AY OPINION LAMANG AT HINDI OFFICIAL DOCTRINE. PERO NAGSISINGALING LANG YON. HEARSAY ANG BASEHAN NIYA. HE HE HE… BOBO ANG PROFESSOR NA IYAN. KINAKAYA-KAYA NIYA KAYO KASI ALAM NA MGA BATA PA KAYO. HE HE HE… TANUNGIN MO SIYA NA: “SIR, KUNG KAYO PO BA AY HAHAMUNIN NG DEBATE NG CATHOLIC FAITH DEFENDERS TUNGKOL SA SIGN OF THE CROSS HANDA PO BA KAYONG LUMABAN?” HE HE HE…
 

IBIGAY MO NGA DITO ANG PANGALAN NG PROFESSOR NA IYAN. KASI TRAIDOR SIYA. MGA ESTUDIANTE ANG NILALABANAN NIYA HINDI ANG MGA EXPERTS SA CATHOLIC DOCTRINES. GIVE ME HIS NAME AT TITIRAHIN KO DITO. HE HE HE…

[Tapos po ang follow up question nya po, Does anyone here made the sign of the cross whenever you leave your house, I raised up my hand firmly! Then he ask me why... I told him that, I make the sign of the cross whenever I leave the house to ask for prayer to our Lord to protect me in any harm and from the enemies on my way.]


TAMA. YOUR ANSWER IS VERY BIBLICAL KASI ANG MGA WALANG TATAK NG CROSS AY HINDI PROTECTED FROM SATAN:


Ezek 9:3-6 ‘Ang kaluwalhatian ng Diyos ng Israel ay tumaas sa mga KERUBIN na dating kinaroroonan patungo sa pintuan ng templo at tinawag ang taong nakasuot ng lino at sa kanyang tagiliran ay may hawak na sisidlan ng panulat. Sinabi sa kanya ng Panginoon, lumibot ka sa lunsod, lumibot ka sa Jerusalem at TATAKAN NG KRUS ang mga noon ng mga taong humihibik at umiiyak dala ng lahat ng kasuklam-suklam na bagay na ginagawa sa loob ng lunsod…Patayin ninyo ang matanda, binata, dalaga, bata at babae hanggang sa malipol ang lahat, subalit HUWAG NINYONG GALAWIN ANG SINO MANG MAY TATAK NA KRUS.’ [ABB-Abriol]


IN ENGLISH VERSION OF THE NEW JERUSALEM BIBLE:


3 The glory of the God of Israel rose from above the winged creature where it had been, towards the threshold of the Temple. He called to the man dressed in linen with a scribe's ink-horn in his belt
4 and Yahweh said to him, 'Go all through the city, all through Jerusalem, and mark a cross on the foreheads of all who grieve and lament over all the loathsome practices in it.'
5 I heard him say to the others, 'Follow him through the city and strike. Not one glance of pity; show no mercy;
6 old men, young men, girls, children, women, kill and exterminate them all. But do not touch anyone with a cross on his forehead. Begin at my sanctuary.' So they began with the old men who were in the Temple.

AT IYAN AY SINUSUPORTAHAN NG BAGONG TIPAN:

The Fulfillment of the Prophecy

Rev 7:3 ‘Saying, HURT NOT the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have SEALED the servants of our God IN THERE FOREHEADS.’

Rev 14:1 ‘And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred and forty and four thousand, having HIS FATHER’S NAME WRITTEN IN THEIR FOREHEADS.’

In Ang Biblia: ‘ang apat na put apat na libong may pangalan niya (Cordero), at pangalan ng kanyang Ama, na nasusulat sa kanikaniyang NOO.’

Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads. [ANG BIBLIA: "At makikita nila ang kaniyang mukha; at ang kaniyang pangalan ay sasa kanilang mga noo."]

ANG PROBLEMA SA PROFESSOR MO AY GALING SA DEMONIO ANG SECTA NIYA KAYA GALIT SA KRUS NI CRISTO. IYAN ANG HALIMBAWA NG KAAWAY NG KRUS NI CRISTO:


St. Paul in Tears for the Enemies of the Cross

Phil 3:18-19 ‘for many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the ENEMIES of THE CROSS of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.’

KAYA SABIHAN MO SIYA NA SABI NG KAIBIGAN MONG PARI AY KAMPON SIYA NG DEMONIO DAHIL KAAWAY SIYA NG KRUS NI CRISTO. 


[Then he said " To protected from the enemies, so meaning whenever you pass by the church and make the sign of the cross , the church is the enemy. "
I told him that the enemy that I am talking about are those cannot be seen by our naked eyes, those supernatural being " the devil".
Then he said that " So you mean to say that there are enemies inside the Church." And i said yes but I am not talking on the Church itself.]
 

HA HA HA… MALI KA. WALANG ENEMY INSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. KAYA TAYO NAG SIGN OF THE CROSS IN FRONT OR INSIDE OF THE CHURCH IS TO GIVE GLORY TO CHRIST AND TO SHOW THAT WE BELONG TO CHRIST. WE MAKE THE SIGN OF THE CROSS WHEN WE ARE AFRAID OR TO BE PROTECTED BECAUSE THE CROSS IS THE INSTRUMENT OF SALVATION USED BY JESUS TO DEFEAT SATAN. IT SHOWS TO SATAN THAT WE BELONG TO CHRIST AND NOT TO EVIL. HE HE HE…

[( kaya ko po sinabing there is enemy inside the church kasi po diba the smoke of the devil enter the church, kaya nga po maraming temptation minsan sa misa, like inaantok preventing from listening the gospel and etc..)]


HA HA HA… ANG STATEMENT NI POPE PAUL VI THAT THE SMOKE OF SATAN ENTERS THE CHURCH REFERS TO THE SINFULNESS OF THE HUMAN PERSONS WHO COMMIT SINS AGAINST GOD LIKE JUDAS ISCARIOT WHO BECAME A TRAITOR. BUT DON’T MIX IT WITH THE SIGN OF THE CROSS. HINDI NATIN DOCTRINE IYANG SMOKE OF SATAN NA IYAN. ANG OFFICIAL DOCTRINE NATIN: “THE GATE OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST THE CHURCH” [cf. MATTHEW 16:18]

[Tapos po kung ano ano na po ang sinabi ng professor ko.. and stick to his answer na " church daw po ay enemy. "]

 
HE HE HE… MALI NGA KASI ANG SINAGOT MO E. BINIGYAN MO SIYA NG AMMUNITION PARA ATAKIHIN ANG CHURCH NATIN. GINAMIT MO ANG SIMPLE STATEMENT NI POPE PAUL VI WHEREIN HE REFERS TO THE PRACTICAL PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH DURING HIS TIME AT GINAWA MONG APPLICABLE SA CHURCH IN GENERAL. MALI KA DON. SAAN MO BA NAKUHA IYANG ‘SMOKE OF SATAN’ STATEMENT MO?


ITO ANG TANDAAN MO, DAPAT ALAM MO ANG KAIBAHAN NG MGA ORDINARY STATEMENTS NG ATING MGA LEADERS IN COMPARISON WITH THE ‘OFFICIAL DOCTRINE OF THE CHURCH’. POPE PAUL VI SIMPLY REFERS TO THE PROBLEMS OF THE CHURCH E IKAW NAMAN SINABI MO NA THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE CHURCH, PALPAK KA TALAGA DUON. HE HE HE… ANONG ENEMY INSIDE THE CHURCH E SI SATAN AY OUTSIDE THE CHURCH, HE IS NOT A MEMBER AND HE IS AN ENEMY OF THE CHURCH.


[Sabi nya po kasi nabasa niya raw po iyon sa " Ang antanda ng Krus" na " we make the s.o.t.c to be protected to the enemy, doctrine daw po iyon ng catholic, eh ayoko naman pong bastusin siya at sabihing hindi lang naman ganyan kaikli ang doctrine ng catholic tungkol sa SOTC.]


NAMBABASTOS SIYA E DI BASTUSIN MO NA RIN. HINDI NYA GINAGALANG ANG CATHOLIC FAITH NATIN BAKIT SIYA IGAGALANG. HINDI SIYA KAGALANG-GALANG. DAPAT RESPECTFUL SIYA NG FAITH OF OTHERS IN THE CLASSROOM. DUON SIYA BUMANAT SA LOOB NG CHURCH NILA O GUMAWA SIYA NG PERSONAL BLOG NIYA HINDI YUNG KLASE ANG GAGAMITIN NIYA.


[Saka po diba father naisip ko lang po i-consider ko na ang sagot nya na to be protected to the enemy, so ang enemy takot sa cross, eh ang tanong ba takot ba ang CATHOLIC CHURCH sa Cross? Hindi po diba? Lahat po ng Church natin ay may Cross at mahal na mahal natin . So ibig sabihin HINDI po ENEMY ang CHURCH. ( sayang Father di ko nasabi sa kanya! ahaha. ) additional info po kung pwede po...]

OK YAN. PERO WAG KALANG DEFENSA NG DEFENSA. YOU ALSO ATTACK HIS FAITH. KAYA MAHALAGA NA ALAM MO ANG RELIGION NYA. THEN PAG-ARALAN MO ANG MGA ARAL NILA AT BANATAN MO SA HARAPAN NG CLASE. WAG NINYONG HAYAANG INSULTUHIN KAYO HE SHOULD LEARN HOW TO RESPECT THE FAITH OF OTHERS.


[Tapos po next question eh

Why does Catholic ask for intercession of Saints , Holy people and the Blessed Virgin Mary?
Sabi po ng iba kong klasmeyt eh dahil raw po syempre Mother of God po si Mary so malakas po siya sa Anak .. Sumang ayon naman po yung professor ko. Hindi na po ako nag argue sa kanya pero nawindang po yung tenga ko sa sinabi nya So ibig sabihin daw po " So Mother of God si Mary so Mary is God?"
I said No! Then nag explain po ako na Mama Mary is the HIGHLY Favored of God kaya we ask for her intercession.. And the prayer of a righteous man is strong as it is written in the Bible.]

 
VERY GOOD ANSWER.


GANUN PA MAN TANGA TALAGA ANG PROFESSOR NA IYAN. OBVIOUSLY HINDI IYAN NAG-ARAL NG THEOLOGY AT MABABAW ANG KANYANG LOGICAL REASONING. KASI PAG SINABI MONG MOTHER OF GOD IT DOES NOT MEAN NA GOD SI MARY. HALIMBAWA, SINABI MONG ‘THE MOTHER OF THE PRESIDENT’ ONLY AN IDIOT WILL THINK THAT THE MOTHER IS ALSO A PRESIDENT UNLESS IN CASE OF TITA CORY AND PRES. NOYNOY WHICH IS A RARE CASE. THE MOTHER OF PRES. RAMOS WAS NOT A PRESIDENT AND SO THE REST OF OUR FORMER PRESIDENTS.


[Tapos nag yung sa God issue po sabi ko po sa kanya si Mama Mary eh THEOTOKOS, nawindang po ata sa word na ginamit ko , halatang mang mang po sa Latin ... hindi po natuloy ang pag explain ko so nagbitaw po siya ng salita... " A man is a man so its parent is a man, An animal came from an animal, an insect, so a God should be born from a God.]


HA HA HA… THAT PROFESSOR IS STUPID. HE IS LIMITING HIMSELF IN ORDINARY HUMAN CONCEPT OF BEGETTING. BUT JESUS IS NOT BORN UNDER ORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE JESUS IS UNIQUE. HE IS THE “ONE AND ONLY” SAVIOR. THEREFORE HIS BIRTH IS UNIQUE, “ONE AND ONLY” ALSO. 


FIRST, JESUS IS BORN BY A VIRGIN. IS THE MOTHER OF THAT PROFESSOR A ‘VIRGIN’ WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO HIM? NO, BECAUSE THE GENITAL OF HIS MOTHER WAS PENETRATED BY THE GENITAL OF HIS FATHER DURING THEIR SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. BUT IN CASE OF MARY SHE WAS NOT TOUCHED BY ANY MAN WHEN SHE CONCEIVED AND GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS:

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

 
Mat 1:22-23 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

JESUS IS GOD WHO BECAME FLESH BUT WE ARE NOT. SO, TO USE THE ORDINARY CASE AS AN EXAMPLE FOR JESUS SMACKS OF STUPIDITY. WE ALL KNOW THAT JESUS IS BEGOTTEN BY THE FATHER IN ETERNITY AS REGARDS HIS DIVINITY:


Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Act 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Heb 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

BUT AS REGARDS HIS HUMANITY JESUS IS BORN BY A WOMAN NAMED MARY:

Galatians 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

SO THE SON OF GOD WAS BORN OF A WOMAN. THAT WOMAN IS MARY. THE ONE BORN BY MARY IS SON OF GOD WHICH MEANS HE IS OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE WITH GOD [PHILIPPIANS 2:6]. MARY GAVE BIRTH TO THE LOGOS-GOD WHO BECAME FLESH [cf. JOHN 1:1 and JOHN 1:14]. FOR THAT REASON MARY IS NOT ONLY A MOTHER OF A MAN BUT THE MOTHER OF THE LORD. THE BIBLE IS CLEAR AND SPECIFIC ON THAT:

Luke 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

MARY GAVE BIRTH TO THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. SHE IS THE MOTHER OF THE LORD, THE MOTHER OF THE KING AND THE MOTHER OF GOD.

BUT IT IS STUPID TO CLAIM THAT IF THE SON IS GOD THEN THE MOTHER IS ALSO GOD. THAT IS ILLOGICAL AND UNFOUNDED ON REALITY BECAUSE THE BIBLE CALLED MARY ‘THE MOTHER OF THE LORD’ YET MARY IS NOT ‘THE LORD’. 


[Tapos po tumayo po ako ulit, sabi ko sa kanya ang babaw po ng logic.. medyo pumalya na po ako dito at nataranta, kaya po ang napaliwanag ko po sabi ko Sir ang layo na layo ng " MOTHER OF GOD sa MARY IS GOD. " ini-spell ko pa po sa buong class hahahha... nagtawanan po mga klasmeyt ko... kaya po biglang tumawag ng ibang tao.... ( paki dagdagan naman po yung explanation na dapat po father para nxt time po alam ko na kung ano isasagot ko alam ko po di ko po napagtanggol ng husto si Mama Mary. )]

HA HA HA… YOU DID WELL. VERY GOOD.

[Tapos po nakikinig na lang po ako sa kanya kasi high blood na rin po ako, nagbitiw po siya ng salita na naalala niya raw po ung isang argument ng kakilala niya na doon raw po sa Mary is the Mother of God eh sinisira ko raw po yung " God is the Alpha and the Omega" kasi raw po binigyan ko raw po siya ng simula which is Mama Mary raw po."]

HA HA HA… SABIHIN MO TALAGANG ILLOGICAL SIYA. KASI HINDI NAMAN SINASABI DUON SA DOGMA NG MOTHER OF GOD NA MAY SIMULA SI JESUS. SO HE IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. HIS ACCUSATION IS UNFOUNDED IN REALITY. HA HA HA… ANG TURO NATIN IS THAT WHEN THE LOGOS-GOD BECAME FLESH [JOHN 1:14] HE ENTERED INTO HUMAN EXISTENCE. HE ENTERED INTO TIME AND SPACE BECAUSE HE ASSUMED HUMAN FLESH. THAT IS THE MEANING OF BEING BORN IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME ‘UNDER THE LAW’ IN GALATIANS 4:4.

[ Hindi na po ako nakapag rebutal kasi po hindi po agad ako makapag react medyo high blood na po ako sa kanya hahaha...]

HA HA HA… KEEP YOUR COOL. WAG KANG PADADALA SA GALIT. BUT YOU PREPARE YOURSELF FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING. HE HE HE…

[Then na realize ko po dapat po pala tinanong ko sa kanya na EH DI SINO GUMAWA KAY MAMA MARY? SUMULPOT BIGLA? pakidagdagan na lamang po father hahaha...]

TAMA YAN. MAMA MARY IS A CREATURE OF GOD. SHE IS THE HANDMAID OF THE LORD. KAYA HINDI NATIN SIYA GINAGAWANG KAPANTAY NG DIOS. AGAIN THAT IS ANOTHER SIGN OF HIS STUPIDITY. KASI MARAMING MGA ANAK NA HIGHER THAN THEIR MOTHERS. HALIMBAWA, PRINCE WILLIAM OF ENGLAND IS GREATER THAN PRINCESS DIANA FROM BIRTH KASI HE IS DIRECTLY IN LINE FOR THE THRONE WHILE PRINCESS DIANA WAS A COMMONER BEFORE BECOMING A PRINCESS. BUT QUEEN ELIZABETH WAS GREATER THAN PRINCE CHARLES WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO HIM BECAUSE SHE WAS THE QUEEN-REGENT.

[Tapos daldal na po siya ng daldal, even Rizal daw po ... galit daw po siya sa Catholic Church ... in Noli and El Fili raw po makikita ang proof sa mga pari... Damaso raw po... Tapos po nagtaas po ako ng kamay... nabasa ko po kasi yung retraction ni Rizal sa Blog nyo tungkol sa catholic church and nag explain po ako sa buong class ... Sabi ko po Sino kasama ni Simon bago siya mamatay sa last part ng El Fili? Hindi ba si Fr. Florentino ... and sabi ko po na si Rizal ay nagbalik sa Santa Iglesia bago siya mamatay , he even confessed and receive communion.]

VERY GOOD. YOU DID VERY WELL. 


[Tapos sabi nya po that's impossible daw... nakooo ahhaha...]

ANONG IMPOSSIBLE E KAYA NGA SI SIMON YBARRA AY NAGKUMPISAL KAY PADRE FLORENTINO SA ENDING NG EL FILIBUSTERISMO KASI SI RIZAL AY PABALIK NA SA SANTA IGLESIA CATOLICA. ACTUALLY ANG ENDING NG EL FILIBUSTERISMO ANG BIDA SI PADRE FLORENTINO. SA BIBIG NI PADRE FLORENTINO INILAGAY NI RIZAL ANG PAGLAYA NG PILIPINAS DUON SA KANYANG CONCLUDING STATEMENT. HE HE HE… BOBO TALAGA ANG PROFESSOR NA IYAN. HA HA HA…

[ kung di lang po siya prof. hahamunin ko po iyon na maglabas ng ibidensya hahhaa...]

DAPAT HINAMON MO NA. KASI ANG SOURCE MO AY REFERENCE BOOK NA AKDA NI GREGORIO F. ZAIDE NA GAMIT SA MGA SCHOOLS. E YUNG POSISYON NIYA SAAN MAKIKITA? LAWAY NIYANG BULOK. HA HA HA…

[Napakarami pa po niyang sinabi na kahit na po Catholic siya eh hindi po akma sa teaching natin... May hindi po ako alam sa mga sinabi niya Father paki sagot na rin po,]

CATHOLIC SIYA? NAKU, CATHOLIC LANG SIYA SA PANGALAN PERO HINDI NA SIYA CATHOLIC IN REALITY KASI HERETICAL ANG KANYANG MGA TEACHINGS AND BELIEFS. HE IS REJECTING THE CATHOLIC DOGMAS SO HINDI NA SIYA TUNAY NA CATHOLIC. SABIHIN MO SA KANYA MAY KAIBIGAN KANG PARI KUNG GUSTO NIYA INVITE MO KO SA CLASS NINYO TO DISCUSS WITH HIM.

[Yung mga gamit raw po ni Blessed John Paul II eh blessed na rin daw po sabi nya, pati yung krib, even yung bahay ... ]

HA HA HA… TANGA TALAGA SIYA. E BAKIT ANG BAHAY NI RIZAL PRESERVED AT INAALAGAAN PATI MGA PLATO PATI INODORO AT KUBETA. HA HA HA… BAKIT? KASI ALA-ALA IYON NG ‘GREAT MAN’ NG NATIONAL HERO. ANG MGA GAMIT AT BAHAY NI JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AY ALA-ALA NG ISANG INTERNATIONAL HERO NA NAGPABAGSAK SA EASTERN EUROPE COMMUNISM AT SA ISANG BAYANI NG PANANAMPALATAYA.

[kaya raw po tinatago natin sabi nya po we worship and pray pa raw po ... ( na alam ko naman po na di tayo nag worship doon and pray) ...]

SABIHIN MONG SINUNGALING SIYA KASI ANG BAHAY AT MGA GAMIT NI POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AY HINDI NAKATAGO KUNDI PILGRIM AT TOURIST SPOTS NA NGAYON TULAD NG BAHAY NI RIZAL. MAS MARAMI NGA LANG ANG NAGPUPUNTA SA BAHAY NI POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT KESA SA BAHAY NI RIZAL DAHIL ANG POPE AY INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AND WELL-LOVED. RIZAL IS NOT AS POPULAR INTERNATIONALLY.

SIEMPRE HINDI NATIN SINASAMBA YON. THE FACT NA SINUNGALING SIYA NUNG SINABI NIYANG TINATAGO NATIN, KASINUNGALINGAN DIN ANG ACCUSATION NIYA NA SINASAMBA NATIN. A LIAR IN ONE IS A LIAR IN ALL. HE LOST ANY SENSE OF CREDEBILITY.

[ gusto ko lang po malamn kung totoo po na halos lahat po ng gamit ni Blessed John Paul II ay itinatago po ... Alam ko po na mahalaga ang mga ito and in fact diba po may kwento sa bible na nahawakan lang po ata ung isang tela ng isang santo and gumaling ... paki clear po di ko na p kasi maalala hahaha ^^..]

NAKALAGAY SA MUSEUM. PAPANONG TINATAGO. HA HA HA… YUN NGANG MGA BANKO NA INUPUAN NIYA, MGA DAMIT NA ISINUOT NIYA AT YUNG POPE MOBILE AT ANG MGA PLATONG KINAINAN NIYA AY MGA NAKALAGAY NA SA MUSEUM DITO SA PILIPINAS AT PINAKIKITA NG MEDIA NUNG NAMATAY SIYA AT NUNG BEATIFICATION NIYA. HA HA HA… 


[And isa pa rin po ... sabi niya po na holy raw po yung dugo kaya po dapat lang daw pong ibalik sa lupa and marumi daw po ito so makakasama sa health ( we are talking po sa dugo ng baboy na hindi kinakain ng Inc ) ... nakalagay raw po iyon sa bible na Holy ang dugo.. saan po ba nakalagay yun? at meron po ba talaga? mukang wala po haha.. Dugo po ni Christ yes ... pero baboy? I wonder hahhaa...]

HA HA HA… ANG TINUTUKOY NA HOLY AY DUGO NI CHRIST. SA LUMANG TIPAN SINABI RIN NA HOLY ANG DUGO PERO DUGO NG TAO ANG TINUTUKOY DUON. TALAGA NAMANG GINAGALANG NATIN ANG DUGO NG TAO. HE HE HE…

YUNG MGA BABOY AY NILINIS NA NG DIOS. ANG LAHAT NG NILIKHA AY DATING ‘MABUTI’. GOD CREATED EVERYTHING GOOD:

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was VERY GOOD. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

THEN DURING THE EXODUS EVENT PINAGBAWAL ANG IBANG HAYUP ISA NA DIYAN ANG BABOY. SUBALIT NUNG NEW TESTAMENT E NILINIS NA SILA NG DIOS:

Act 10:9 Nang kinabukasan nga samantalang sila'y patuloy sa kanilang paglalakad, at nang malapit na sa bayan, si Pedro ay umakyat sa ibabaw ng bahay upang manalangin, nang may oras na ikaanim;
Act 10:10 At siya'y nagutom at nagnais kumain: datapuwa't samantalang nangaghahanda sila, ay nawalan siya ng diwa;
Act 10:11 At nakita niyang bukas ang langit, at may isang sisidlang bumababa, gaya ng isang malapad na kumot, na nakabitin sa apat na panulok na bumababa sa lupa:
Act 10:12 Na doo'y naroroon ang lahat ng uri ng mga hayop na may apat na paa at ang mga nagsisigapang sa lupa at ang mga ibon sa langit.
Act 10:13 At dumating sa kaniya ang isang tinig, Magtindig ka, Pedro; magpatay ka at kumain.
Act 10:14 Datapuwa't sinabi ni Pedro, Hindi maaari, Panginoon; sapagka't kailan ma'y hindi ako kumain ng anomang bagay na marumi at karumaldumal.
Act 10:15 At muling dumating sa kaniya ang tinig sa ikalawa, Ang nilinis ng Dios, ay huwag mong ipalagay na marumi.

[And bkit po ang jehova eh ayaw magpa blood transfussion ? Bakit po father?]

KASI MASAMA ANG UGALI NILA. YAN AY MANIFESTATION OF EXTREME SELFISHNESS.

[Sige po father, medyo mahaba na po ang kwento ko hahaha... Ewan ko po diyan sa prof. ko na iyan Catholic pa naman din po... Paki dagdagan na lamang po ng mga tamang sagot father ung tungkol sa mga iyan Father... Maraming maraming salamat po! Isa po ako sa inspired na Reader ng Blog ninyo Father and willing to protect our Doctrine , our Faith and our Church.! Salamat po!]

YOU ARE WELCOME BROD. GOD BLESS YOU TOO. LET US PRAISE THE LORD THAT YOU ARE INSPIRED BY THIS BLOG. 


Three More Anglicans Complete Ordination into Catholic Church


Pope Benedict XVI during the Beatification of Blessed John Cardinal Newman



 


Three more former Anglican priests have been ordained into the Roman Catholic Church at the weekend.

The latest priests to turn their backs on the Anglican Communion and join the specially established Catholic Ordinariate are Father David Elliott, of Reading, Berks, Father Jonathan Redvers Harris, of the Isle of Wight and Father Graham Smith, of Christchurch, Dorset.

Earlier this month The Christian Post reported how seven former Church of England clergy were ordained into the Ordinariate, as part of a series of ordinations taking place over Pentecost.

The latest group of former Anglican priests to complete their defection to the Catholic Ordinariate did so at a ceremony at Portsmouth Cathedral in south England, which saw about 250 congregants gather to celebrate the ordinations.

A number of those joining the new Ordinariate have said they were forced to take action following the Church of England’s increasing acceptance of same-sex blessings and gay clergy. Others have also cited the Church’s movement towards accepting women bishops as a reason to defect to the Catholic Church.

According to the BBC, one of the three, Father Elliott, resigned from his post as the Anglican vicar of Holy Trinity in Reading in April. He moved to the Catholic Church, taking 15 of his congregants with him.

Elliot has said he felt urged to take the action following Pope Benedict extending a “hand of friendship”.

The Catholic Ordinariate is a special body established by the pope as a place of refuge for Anglicans dissatisfied with their Church’s changing stance on certain issues.

In excess of 900 laity have already moved to the Catholic Church and have been waiting for their clergy to complete training for Catholic priesthood at a seminary in West London.

As the former Anglican clergy become ordained as Catholic priests, they will lead groups of former Anglican laity to branch off from the core Catholic congregations to worship as a separate Ordinariate group. The Vatican will soon publish a separate liturgy for these Ordinariate groups to follow.

According to The Times in London, Keith Newton, who heads up the Ordinariate, has explained that dozens more Church of England clergy are currently also considering their positions within the Anglican Church.

Newton told The Times, “Every week somebody writes or e-mails asking how they can join the Ordinariate. They are often people I have never heard of before.”

Explaining the risk facing those defecting to the Catholic Church, Newton commented: “For clergy it is a practical risk, meaning they abandon tied housing and a guaranteed stipend for a smaller income and uncertainty.”

Newton, himself defected and became a Roman Catholic priest in January this year. He and Andrew Burnham and John Broadhurst – all former Anglican bishops – were welcomed into the Roman Catholic Church during a ceremony at Westminster Cathedral in London.

The three made the move because they were "distressed" by the developments in the global Anglican Communion which they found to be "incompatible" with Christian tradition.

The Vatican announced in 2009 that it would introduce a new church structure that would allow former Anglicans to enter into "full communion" with the Catholic Church while preserving their Anglican traditions.

Pope Benedict made the provision in response to the numerous requests he received from Anglicans who were unhappy with the ordination of women and noncelibate gay bishops.
 

SOURCE:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/more-anglicans-ordained-into-catholic-ordinariate-51603/

Monday, June 27, 2011

DEFENDING THE GOOD CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE FRIARS IN PHILIPPINE HISTORY

The Augustinian Church in Paoay, Ilocos

 
Anonymous said...
Well the friars did commit a lot of atrocities and the colonizers did make use of religion as an easy ticket to capturing us and destroying our land.
The friars lived in simplicity? I laugh. Ever heard of something called Obras Pias? It was a charity fund that the Spanish Galleon trade funded which friars also used to enrich themselves (and when a government official found out, friars had him killed). Another reason as to why they built churches is because it will draw in the people. They built churches first in place of government infrastructure and hospitals. They did that in order to lure people and make them come out of hiding and then exploit them through manual labour and other stuff. I can't really blame the person for blaming the friars and Christianity for Rizal's death since the people of the Church were pretty dirty and drowning in their own thirst for power (they kinda did what the Romans did to them to other religions).

I am personally a very religious person but history is history and the fact is that religion was one of the easiest ways for those damned colonizers to come and suck at our natural resources. The only good that came out of all this was that the Philippines became unified because they had 1 common enemy to hate.
Fr. Abe, CRS said... 
 
[Well the friars did commit a lot of atrocities and the colonizers did make use of religion as an easy ticket to capturing us and destroying our land.]

THIS IS JUST A HEARSAY BASED ON THE UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS OF THE ENEMIES OF THE CHURCH RATHER THAN BASED ON FACTS OF HISTORY.

THE TRUTH IS THAT THE FRIARS ARE VERY MUCH LOVED BY THE PEOPLE SO THAT EVEN AFTER THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN OVERTHROWN THE PEOPLE PROTECTED THE FRIARS BURIED THEM WITH LOVE AND RESPECT AND STAYED IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH IN GREAT NUMBERS.

THOSE FRIARS ARE GONE BUT THE INSTITUTIONS THAT THEY BUILT REMAINS TO BE ENJOYED BY FILIPINOS. UNLIKE THE ATHEISTS WHO ONLY BROUGHT US THE MURDEROUS COMMUNISTS AND GODLESS REVOLUTIONS. OR THE PROTESTANTS WHOSE INSTITUTIONS ARE OWNED AND INHERITED BY THEIR PASTORS' OWN FAMILIES. THE FRIARS LIVED AND DIED AS TRUE SERVANTS OF GOD. THEY WERE POOR AND HAD NO CHILDREN TO INHERIT THEIR INSTITUTIONS.

THAT IS THE FACT.

[The friars lived in simplicity? I laugh.]

YEAH, YOU LAUGH ON YOUR OWN IGNORANCE. THE FRIARS SENT TO THE PHILIPPINES WERE ONLY A HANDFUL. THERE IS ONLY ONE OR TWO FRIARS IN EVERY CHURCH WHICH WERE VERY RARE THEN BUT EVEN IF THEY ARE ONLY ONE OR TWO THEY WERE LOVED AND REVERED BY THE PEOPLE. IF THEY WERE EVIL THE FILIPINOS COULD EASILY HAVE MURDERED THEM IN THE CONVENTS OR DURING PROCESSIONS OR WHEN THEY ARE ROAMING THE HILLS AND VALLEYS OR THE RICE FIELDS. BUT THEY WERE NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE UNARMED. THEY CARRY ONLY THE BIBLE, THE CATECHISM AND THE CROSS.

THE FILIPINOS ARE MORE AFRAID OF THE ATHEISTS OR COMMUNISTS THAN OF THE FRIARS BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT THE LATTER IS A MAN OF GOD. 


[Ever heard of something called Obras Pias? It was a charity fund that the Spanish Galleon trade funded which friars also used to enrich themselves (and when a government official found out, friars had him killed).]

HEARSAY, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THIS FROM THE KUWENTONG KUTSERO OR FROM THE BARBER SHOP. THE GALLEON TRADES WERE UNDER THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT AND NOT OWNED BY THE FRIARS. THE FRIARS ARE PROHIBITED TO PRACTICE TRADE ESPECIALLY GALLEON TRADE BECAUSE OF THEIR VOWS OF POVERTY. O NO, NO, NO... STUDY THE HISTORY OF GALLEON TRADE. THE FRIARS ARE ONLY INVITED TO JOIN IN THE EXPEDITIONS BECAUSE THE ROYAL GOVERNMENTS OF THOSE TIMES PROMOTE THE STATE RELIGION. BUT THOSE ARE DONE NOT ONLY BY CATHOLICS BUT ALSO BY THE PROTESTANT DUTCH AND THE ANGLICAN ENGLISH AND LATER BY AMERICAN PROTESTANTS.

[Another reason as to why they built churches is because it will draw in the people.]

THIS IS A STUPID ASSERTION BEREFT OF ANY LOGIC. EVEN IF YOU BUILD CHURCHES IF PEOPLE ARE NOT CONVINCED OF THE BELIEFS OF THAT RELIGION THEN THOSE CHURCHES SHALL BE EMPTY.

BESIDES, THE CHURCHES IN THE BARRIOS AND PROVINCES WERE AND ARE STILL VERY MODEST AND SIMPLE STRUCTURES. ONLY THE CHURCHES IN THE CAPITAL CITIES ARE LARGE AND ARCHITECTURALLY RELEVANT. SO YOUR REASONING IS NOT ONLY ILLOGICAL IT IS ALSO UNFOUNDED.

ACTUALLY, CHURCHES ARE BUILT BY THE PEOPLE SO, WHAT COMES FIRST IS EVANGELIZATION, THAT IS, CONVINCING PEOPLE TO BE CATHOLICS. ONCE THE CONVERTS HAVE BECOME NUMEROUS ONLY THEN A BIG CHURCH CAN BE CONSTRUCTED BECAUSE THE MONEY WILL COME FROM THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE OWNERS OF THE CHURCH. PRIESTS ARE COME AND GO, THEY ARE REPLACED AFTER SOME YEARS OF SERVICE BUT THE CHURCH REMAINS WITH THE PEOPLE. THEY WERE THE ONES BUILDING THEIR OWN CHURCHES. IF THEY WANT A SIMPLE 'COTTAGE' FINE BUT IF THEY WANT AND CAN AFFORD A BASILICA THEN THEY DO SO.

IT IS THE PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEERED TO BE WORKERS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS AND THEY CARRY GRAVELS AND SANDS FROM THE RIVERS. DUE TO THE COMMON HARD WORK AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL CATHOLIC MEMBERS WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD BEAUTIFUL CHURCHES MANY OF WHICH ARE NOW CULTURAL HERITAGE OF THE COUNTRY PROTECTED EVEN BY UNESCO AS PART OF THE ARTISTIC AND CULTURAL TREASURES OF HUMANITY.


[They built churches first in place of government infrastructure and hospitals.]

HA HA HA... THAT IS A RARE OCCASION. MAY BE IN THE MAJOR CITIES ONLY. BUT IT HAPPENED BECAUSE SOME RICH DONORS FROM SPAIN OR ITALY DECIDED TO DONATE MONEY FOR THE IMMEDIATE CONSTRUCTION OF A CHURCH. BUT THESE ARE RARE. USUALLY THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES CONTRIBUTING.

AND ALSO, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT THEY BUILT CHURCHES FIRST BEFORE HOSPITALS. BECAUSE MANY FRIARS LIVED IN NIPA HUT AND COTTAGES BUT THEY STARTED BUILDING SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS AND HOUSES OF CHARITIES SUCH AS ORPHANAGES AND HOUSE FOR LEPROUS. THE ANTIQUITY OF OUR INSTITUTIONS OF THESE KIND REPULSE YOUR UNFOUNDED ASSERTION.



ACTUALLY SINCE THE FRIARS WERE FEW THEY DECIDED TO TEACH THE PEOPLE HOW TO READ AND WRITE BY CHOOSING FEW INTELLIGENT AND BRIGHT STUDENTS. THEN, THESE BRIGHT STUDENTS WHO WERE FILIPINOS WERE THE ONES WHO REPLACED THEM TEACHING THE OTHERS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THAT THE EDUCATION OF THE FILIPINOS IN WESTERN PHILOSOPHY AND SCIENCES CAME FROM THE FRIARS.
The San Juan de Dios Hospital founded by the Franciscans... the oldest in the Country



[They did that in order to lure people and make them come out of hiding and then exploit them through manual labour and other stuff.]

HA HA HA... ONLY AN IDIOT WILL BELIEVE THAT. THE COMMUNISTS COUNTRIES BUILT CONCENTRATION CAMPS TO PUNISH ITS PEOPLE TO HARD LABOR. BUT THE FRIARS NEVER DID THAT. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THERE IS A HARD MANUAL LABOR IMPOSED ON OUR CATHOLIC FAITHFUL. ON THE CONTRARY, SLAVERY WAS A COMMON PRACTICE DURING THE PRE-HISPANIC FILIPINO TRIBES. THEY WERE REMOVED BY THE FRIARS THROUGH THE POWER OF EVANGELICAL PREACHING.

ON THE CONTRARY, THE FILIPINOS LOVED THE HOLY MASSES BECAUSE THEY ONLY SIT, STAND AND KNEEL IN PRAYER AND WORSHIP. HE HE HE... THEN THERE ARE PROCESSIONS AND EXPOSITION OF BLESSED SACRAMENTS. BEAUTIFUL AND JOYFUL FIESTAS AS WELL AS WONDERFUL FAMILY REUNIONS FOR BAPTISMS, WEDDINGS AND FESTIVITIES. SO THE FILIPINOS WHO ARE JOYFUL AND PEACEFUL PEOPLE LOVED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. BECAUSE THE CHURCH GAVE THEM A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO CELEBRATE AND BE HAPPY OF.


NO HARD MANUAL LABOR. OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE RIOTS ON THE STREETS AND THE FRIARS SHALL BE POISONED OR MURDERED. NO NO NO... TELL ME HOW MANY FRIARS MURDERED BY THE FILIPINOS AFTER THE EXPULSIONS OF SPANIARDS? EVEN THE KATIPUNEROS HESITATED TO HARM THE FRIARS. WHY? BECAUSE THE PEOPLE LOVED THEM SO MUCH. LOOK AT THE HEBREW PEOPLE. THEY WERE ENSLAVED BY THE EGYPTIANS SO IN EFFECT UNTIL NOW THEY FEEL THE HATRED AND THE INDIGNATION. THE FILIPINOS HAVE THAT ATTITUDE FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF SPAIN AND JAPAN THEN BUT NOT FOR THE FRIARS.

[I can't really blame the person for blaming the friars and Christianity for Rizal's death since the people of the Church were pretty dirty and drowning in their own thirst for power (they kinda did what the Romans did to them to other religions).]

I BLAME THE STUPID AND IGNORANT PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHOSE MIND IS CONTAMINATED BY HEARSAY AND UNFOUNDED CLAIMS WITHOUT SOLID BASIS FOR HIS ACCUSATIONS AND CLAIMS.

FILIPINOS HATE EVIL PEOPLE BUT THEY LOVED AND WERE GRATEFUL TO GOOD PEOPLE. SO THEY LOVED AND RESPECTED THE FRIARS, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOOD. THOSE WHO CLAIM OTHERWISE ARE THE ATHEISTS, THE COMMUNISTS, THE AGNOSTICS AND THE PROTESTANTS WHO WANT TO UNDERMINE THE CHURCH SO THAT CATHOLICS WILL TRANSFER TO THEIR NEWLY INVENTED RELIGIONS. 


[I am personally a very religious person]

WHAT A HYPOCRISY. YOU ARE LIKE A PROSTITUTE CLAIMING TO BE A VIRGIN. HA HA HA... SHAME ON YOU.

[but history is history and the fact is that religion was one of the easiest ways for those damned colonizers to come and suck at our natural resources.]

THE COLONIZERS SUCK OUR NATURAL RESOURCES BUT NOT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. BECAUSE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN THE PHILIPPINES ARE NOT COLONIZERS BUT FILIPINOS. THE FRIARS CAME NOT TO TAKE RICHES AWAY BUT TO HELP AND EMPOWER THE FILIPINO PEOPLE. INDEED, ALL THOSE GREAT INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS U.S.T, ATENEO, LA SALLE,  SAN BEDA, LETRAN, HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE AND OTHERS ARE ALL ENTRUSTED TO FILIPINOS AFTER THE FRIARS DIED A NATURAL DEATH.

ON THE CONTRARY, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OUTSIDE THE GOVERNMENT THAT CONTRIBUTED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FILIPINO PEOPLE. FROM SCIENCE TO ARTS, FROM EDUCATION TO CULTURE... IN ALL STRATA OF LIFE IN OUR COUNTRY THE CHURCH HELPED FOR THE BETTER.

[The only good that came out of all this was that the Philippines became unified because they had 1 common enemy to hate.]

THAT IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE CONTRIBUTED BUT NOT THE ONLY. THE FRIARS ESTABLISHED THE FIRST SCHOOLS IN THE CITIES AND IN THE PROVINCES AND IN THE FAR FLUNG PLACES. EVEN IN AREAS THAT THE GOVERNMENT SOLDIERS WERE AFRAID TO ENTER. EVEN NOW, IN THE AREAS WHERE THE MILITARY AND THE GOVERNMENT WORKERS CANNOT ENTER DUE TO INSURGENCY PROBLEMS THE PRIESTS AND NUNS MISSIONARIES ARE PENETRATING. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE EASY PREY TO THE ABU SAYYAFF. IN ALMOST EVERY KIDNAPPINGS OF ABU SAYYAFF THERE IS ALWAYS A NUN OR A PRIEST INVOLVED.

THE FRIARS WROTE THE FIRST DICTIONARIES, THEY CODIFIED THE FILIPINO ANCIENT LITERATURE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. THEY WERE THE FIRST TO TEACH SCIENCES IN THE COUNTRY. THE JESUITS PIONEERED IN ASTRONOMY, THE DOMINICANS IN MEDICINES AND THE AUGUSTINIANS IN BOTANY. THEY ALSO PRINTED THE FIRST BOOKS. THEY TAUGHT OUR PEOPLE THE FIRST RULES OF GRAMMAR AND MATHEMATICS. THEY OPENED HOUSES OF CHARITIES THAT UNTIL NOW ARE STILL OPEN AND LOVED BY ALL FOR SOCIAL AND CHARITABLE WORKS LIKE THE HOSPICIO DE SAN JOSE. THEY BUILT HOSPITALS WHERE THE FRIARS THEMSELVES WERE DRESSING THE WOUNDS OF THE PEOPLE.

THE MOST ACTIVE IN THE FIELD OF HOSPITAL WORKS WERE THE FRANCISCANS. THE HOSPITALS BUILD BY THE FRIARS ARE FAMOUS AND REVERED IN THE MEMORY AND HEART OF OUR PEOPLE:

1. The Royal Hospital in Manila
2. The San Juan de Dios Hospital
3. The Holy Spirit Hospital in Cavite
4. The St. James Hospital in Naga
5. The Holy Waters Hospital in Los Banos

ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS OF THE CATHOLIC LEPROSARIUMS BUT VERY FAMOUS IS THE SAN LAZARO LEPROSARIUM. THIS LEPROSARIUM IS LEGENDARY IN ITS SERVICE TO THE LEPERS. 

IN THE FIELD OF AGRICULTURE IT WAS THE JESUIT SCIENTISTS WHO BROUGHT THE CACAO SEEDS TO THE COUNTRY SO THAT FILIPINOS CAN ENJOY HOT CHOLATE DRINKS AND TASTY CHOCOLATE CAKES. AND THEY WERE THE FIRST TO TEACH ALSO THE PEOPLE OF BATANGAS TO CULTIVATE THEM AND TO BE THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME. THE SAME FOR COFFEE. YES, COFFEE. THE AUGUSTINIAN NATURALISTS LED BY FRAY ELIAS LEBRADO WHO BROUGHT THEM IN THE PHILIPPINES AND TAUGHT THE PEOPLE HOW TO CULTIVATE AND BREW THEM. THAT IS WHY THE PEOPLE OF BATANGAS AND CAVITE ARE VERY CATHOLIC EVEN THOUGH THEY PRODUCED A LOT OF NATIONAL HEROES AND LED MANY REVOLUTIONS. THE SAME FOR THE PEOPLE OF BULACAN.  THE SAME AUGUSTINIAN SCIENTISTS BROUGHT SUGAR CANE TO THE PHILIPPINES AND TAUGHT THEM THE TECHNOLOGY TO PRODUCE OUT OF THEM. THAT IS WHY THE PEOPLE OF NEGROS AND LAGUNA ARE VERY CATHOLIC. THEY BEAUTIFIED THEIR CHURCHES BECAUSE THEY OWE THEIR INCOMES FROM THE TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCES THEY'VE GOT FROM THE FRIARS WHO BROUGHT THEM ALSO ORANGES, TOBACCO, GRAPEVINES, WHEAT AND OTHER PRODUCTS SUCH AS SILK AND COTTON. SILK INDUSTRY WAS INTRODUCED BY FR. ANTONIO SEDENO OF THE JESUITS.

THE JESUITS TAUGHT THE PEOPLE SILK TECHNOLOGY BUT THE AUGUSTINIANS TAUGHT THEM THE WEAVING TECHNOLOGY. 

IN THE FIELD OF LITERATURE AND LANGUAGE THE FRIARS REFUSED TO IMPLEMENT SPANISH AS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE COUNTRY. INSTEAD, THE FRIARS LEARNED THE LOCAL DIALECTS AND MADE DICTIONARIES AND BOOKS USING THEM. THUS, BY DOING SO THEY PRESERVED OUR LOCAL LANGUAGES. ALMOST ALL OF OUR ANCIENT EPICS WERE PRESERVED BY FRIAR HISTORIANS AND SCHOLARS.

OUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE TOO MANY TO BE COUNTED. THEY CAN FILL VOLUMES AND VOLUMES OF BOOKS. ONLY THE BLIND WILL FAIL TO SEE THESE BLAZING TRUTH.

WE FILIPINOS ARE NOT TRAITORS AND INGRATE. WE KNOW HOW TO LOVE THOSE WHO LOVED AND DID A LOT OF GOOD TO US. THUS, WE LOVED AND RESPECTED THE FRIARS. THE EVIL NPA AND THE ABU SAYYAFF WERE CONDEMNED BY OUR PEOPLE BUT NOT THE FRIARS.

MANY OF THE FRIARS SENT TO THE PHILIPPINES WERE DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS. THAT IS WHY THEY WERE COMPETENT TO RUN AND TEACH IN COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. MANY OF THEM WERE FLUENT IN MANY LANGUAGES, THAT IS WHY THEIR STUDENTS SUCH AS RIZAL LEARNED VARIOUS LANGUAGES FROM THEM AS WELL. TAKE NOTE, RIZAL LOVED AND RESPECTED HIS JESUIT MENTORS UNTIL DEATH. THEY WERE HIS REQUESTED COMPANIONS TO BE AT HIS SIDE IN BAGUMBAYAN, NOT THE MASONS, NOT THE ATHEISTS AND NOT THE KATIPUNEROS.