HINDI NGA BA NAGTATAKDA NG ARAW ANG MGA SAKSI NI JEHOVA PARA SA KATAPUSAN?

Backer's Last Judgment

 

Anonymous said...

Kaming mga Saksi ni Jehova ay hindi po nagdidikta nang eksaktong petsa kung kailan magaganap ang katapusan. Itinuturo lang po namin na ang kalagayan natin ngayon ay nasa mga huling araw bago ang katapusan. Tanging ang Diyos na Jehova lang po ang nakakaalam.

Ang naganap noong 1914, para sa paniniwala namin at base na rin sa mga hula ng aklat na Daniel, kung saan nagkaroon ng malawakan o pandaigdig na digmaan, sa mga pangyayari noon, ito po ay nagpapatunay na ang panginoong Jesus ay naghari na sa langit. Ngunit, hindi po namin itinuturo na naparito ang panginoong Jesus sa lupa noong 1914.


At tanging ang diyos lamang ang nakakaalam kung kailan mangyayari ito kahitang anghel at pati na si jesus ay hindi alam kung kailan mangyayari ang mga bagay na ito.

darating nga po ito na gaya ng isang "magnanakaw" walang katiyan kung kailan ito mangyayari.


hindi po kami naninira
ginagalang po namin ang Inyong paniniwala! 

November 30, 2011 9:17 PM  

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[Kaming mga Saksi ni Jehova ay hindi po nagdidikta nang eksaktong petsa kung kailan magaganap ang katapusan.]

NAGDIKTA KAYO. TAHASAN NINYONG IPINAHAYAG ANG EXACTONG TAON DIUMANO NG KATAPUSAN SUBALIT PEKE AT PALPAK ANG INYONG HULA:

1966 "Six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E" (Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God, 29)

1968 "The end of the six thousand years of man's history in the fall of 1975 is not tentative, but is accepted as a certain date" (WT, 1-1-1968, 271)

WAG NANG MAGMAANG MAANGAN PA. HULING HULI NA E.

[Itinuturo lang po namin na ang kalagayan natin ngayon ay nasa mga huling araw bago ang katapusan. Tanging ang Diyos na Jehova lang po ang nakakaalam.]

HINDI GANYANG ANG SABI NINYO. EXPLICIT AND DIRECT AND CATEGORICAL NINYONG SINABI ANG TAON KUNG KAILANG MAGAGANAP ANG KATAPUSAN. SUBALIT HINDI NAGKATOTOO ANG INYONG PAHAYAG. KAYO AY NAPATUNAYANG MGA SAKSING SINUNGALING. ITO ANG SABI NG PANGINOONG DIOS NA SI YHWH:

Exodus 23:1 Huwag kang magkakalat ng kasinungalingan: huwag kang makikipagkayari sa masama, na maging saksi kang sinungaling.

MGA SINUNGALING KAYO MULA SA PUNO NA SI CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL. NILOKO NINYO ANG MGA TAO.

[Ang naganap noong 1914, para sa paniniwala namin at base na rin sa mga hula ng aklat na Daniel, kung saan nagkaroon ng malawakan o pandaigdig na digmaan, sa mga pangyayari noon, ito po ay nagpapatunay na ang panginoong Jesus ay naghari na sa langit. Ngunit, hindi po namin itinuturo na naparito ang panginoong Jesus sa lupa noong 1914.]

TALAGANG MGA TALAMAK NA SINUNGALING ITONG MGA SAKSI NI BAHO. TIGNAN MO NGA ITONG PINAGSASABI NINYO:

1894 "The end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble" (Watch Tower Reprints, 1-1-1894, 1605 and 1677)

SABI NINYO ANG 1914 AY END OF THE TIME OF TROUBLE. THEN SABI MO NAGHARI NA SI CRISTO SA LANGIT NUONG 1914. E ANG GULO NINYO E.

HISTORY ATTESTS THAT THE TIME OF TROUBLE DIDN'T END IN 1914 BUT WENT ON. IN FACT AFTER THAT NAGKAROON PA NG WORLD WAR II FEW DECADES LATER AT HANGGANG NGAYON AY HINDI PA TAPOS ANG MGA TROUBLES NG DAIGDIG. KAYA MGA SINUNGALING KAYO. MGA SAKSING SINUNGALING NA NAGPA-UTO SA MASASAMANG DILA.


[At tanging ang diyos lamang ang nakakaalam kung kailan mangyayari ito kahitang anghel at pati na si jesus ay hindi alam kung kailan mangyayari ang mga bagay na ito.]

SINONG NAGSABI SA IYO NA HINDI ALAM NI JESUS KUNG KAILAN MANGYAYARI IYON? ABER, SIGE NGA. SAAN MO NABASA YAN?

[darating nga po ito na gaya ng isang "magnanakaw" walang katiyan kung kailan ito mangyayari.]

E BALIW PALA KAYO E. INAMIN NIO NA NA NAGTATAKDA KAYO NG ARAW TAPOS PALPAK ANG MGA HULA NINYO AT NAPAHIYA KAYO. NGAYON AY DENY TO DEATH KA. ITO ANG SABI NG MGA MAGULANG MO:

1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the dates 1914, 1918, & 1925... and they also learned to quit fixing dates" (Vindication, 388, 389).

KITAM. SARILI MONG MGA MAGULANG AT KAPWA JW AY NAGPAPABULAAN SA SINASABI MO.

[hindi po kami naninira
ginagalang po namin ang Inyong paniniwala!]

HINDI RIN KAMI NANINIRA. SUMASAGOT LANG KAMI SA MGA PANINIRA NINYO SA AMIN. HINDI NA NAMIN KAYO KAILANGANG SIRAIN KASI SIRANG SIRA NA KAYO DAHIL SA SARILI NINYONG KABALIWAN AT KASINUNGALINGAN.

November 30, 2011 9:45 PM

Advisory Doctor to FDA Confirms Morning-After Pill Acts as Abortifacient by LifeSiteNews.com

• Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:15 EST

By Gudrun Schultz

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah, October 4, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Emergency contraception fails to prevent pregnancy more than 25 percent of the time, does not reduce abortion or unplanned pregnancy rates and is capable of acting as an abortifacient, according to a damning statement by a doctor who sat on the Food and Drug Administration’s advisory panel for the drug.

Dr. Joseph Stanford is associate professor of family and preventative medicine at the University of Utah School of Medicine. He participated in the FDA’s 2003 council to determine if the “morning-after pill”, or Plan B, should be given over-the-counter status and was one of just four votes against approving the drug. The drug was released for OTC sales in the U.S. one month ago.

Deseret Morning News reported yesterday on Dr. Stanford’s continuing opposition to the drug’s use. He accuses Plan B manufacturers of glossing over the pill’s abortifacient capabilities, information he says users have a right to know.

While the drug will prevent sperm from fertilizing an egg if taken before conception has occurred, it will also cause an abortion if taken after the egg has been fertilized by preventing the baby from implanting into the wall of the womb. Manufacturers bypass that fact by relying on an argument that claims life begins at implantation, not fertilization. 

That argument is a “deliberate redefinition” of the beginning of life, Dr. Stanford said. Science accepts that at the moment of conception DNA from the sperm and the egg unite to form a new and completely unique human being—nothing further is added by implantation. (See: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/1999/apr/990421a.html)

Informed consent is only “marginally” addressed in the drug’s packaging, he said, “It’s the way that it’s phrased, to minimize the issue.”

Dr. Stanford also criticized the drug’s manufacturer for over-estimating the medication’s effectiveness at preventing pregnancy, with claims of 89 percent effectiveness if taken within 72 hours of intercourse. 

“We did more a precise meta-analysis that shows it’s effective only 72 percent of the time, and even that number is optimistic.” As well, the more effective the drug is in preventing pregnancy after intercourse, the more likely it is to act as abortifacient, he said.

He discredited claims of proponents of the drug that it reduces abortion rates and the number of unplanned pregnancies, pointing to studies conducted in Europe, China and the United States disproving such claims. 

“In all cases, they found there was no effect on abortion rates and unintended pregnancy rates.” It was a “naëve view of human nature,” he said, to assume people would not indulge in “riskier” behavior with the promise of the morning-after pill to reassure them.

In fact, abortion rates were shown to continue to climb despite easy access to emergency contraception, in a recent study from England. (See: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/sep/06091507.html)

Read full coverage from Deseret Morning News:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650195725,00.html

See related LifeSiteNews coverage:

Plan B Manufacturer Admits Morning After Pill Can Cause Death of an Embryo
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/sep/06090701.html

Plan B Could Be Available Over-the-Counter in U.S. Within Mere Weeks
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06080901.html

President Bush Approves Over the Counter Early Abortion Pill, Pro-Life Base Decries Move
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/aug/06082101.html

Pius X Society says Vatican's current offer not acceptable

The SSPX Liturgical Carnaval in Econe led by a canonical and liturgical rebel Fellay... This must have been Satan's look when he appears as an angel of light.

Rome, Italy, Nov 29, 2011 / 01:16 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X says he will inform the Vatican “in the next few days” that they cannot give the doctrinal reassurances required of them to advance reconciliation with the Catholic Church.

“It is true that this Doctrinal Preamble cannot receive our endorsement,” said Bishop Bernard Fellay on the society’s website, Nov. 28. 

However, Bishop Fellay said his understanding is that the document is “not a definite text” and that it “can be clarified and modified.” In particular, he would like to discuss what the Vatican means when it says that there is “leeway” for a “legitimate discussion” on the documents and legacy of the Second Vatican Council.

“What is the extent of this leeway? The proposal that I will make in the next few days to the Roman authorities and their response in turn will enable us to evaluate our remaining options,” he said.  

The breakaway Society of St. Pius X was presented with the “doctrinal preamble” or statement of principles by the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in September. 

The document outlined doctrinal points that the Vatican needs clarified before the 23-year rift between the two sides can be healed.  The society has been discussing its response for the past two months. 

Bishop Fellay said that to give a “flat refusal,” to the Vatican offer would be the “simplest thing, perhaps, but not the most courteous,” and since the note that accompanies it “foresees the possibility of making clarifications,” it seems “necessary to ask for them instead of refusing them a priori.” He added that this “in no way prejudges the response that we will give.” 

If the society agrees with the doctrinal preamble, they may be able to enter into the Church as a personal prelature—a jurisdiction without geographical boundaries designed to carry out particular pastoral initiatives.

But Bishop Fellay said that setting aside theological differences “in order to obtain a canonical status” would “expose” the society “to the danger of seeing the same differences crop up inevitably, which would make the canonical status not just precarious but quite simply unliveable.”

The Society of St. Pius X was founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre in 1970 as a response to what he described as errors that had crept into the Catholic Church following the 1962-1965 Second Vatican Council. 

The society has had a strained relationship with the Vatican since Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated four bishops against the orders of Pope John Paul II in 1988.

FR. ABE:

SO BE IT! WE DON'T NEED THEM. WE ARE COMPLETE WITHOUT THE SSPX TRAITORS. WE ARE WASTING TIME AND RESOURCES FOR THESE FOLLOWERS OF LUCIFER-LUTHER-LEFEBVRE OF CURSED MEMORY.  IN ACTUALITY THEY ARE OUT OF THE CHURCH. THEIR DIALOGUE WITH US IS JUST A FRONT TO GAIN SEMBLANCE OF RESPECTABILITY. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH OF THE SSPX CHARADE.

Cardinal Says Murdered Nun Was Fearless

Coal Mining Companies Suspected in Gruesome Death

MUMBAI, India, NOV. 29, 2011 (Zenit.org).- Cardinal Oswald Gracias, president of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India, praised Sister Valsa John for being "fearless" and said she was "a person of courage and faith who gave her life in the service of the Gospel."

The 52-year-old nun was hacked to death on Nov. 15. She had been working among the tribal communities in a coal mining region near the city of Dumka in the Indian state of Jharkands, for the last 20 years.

Cardinal Gracias, who is archbishop of Mumbai, spoke to the organization Aid to the Church in Need after having visited Sr. John's family and friends. He said that the nun had received death threats, but was not deterred from her work of defending the local population against the acquisition of their land by coal mining companies.

The cardinal also said there were "question marks" hanging over the handling of the murder case by local police.

Police have arrested a number of Maoist extremists following the murder, but there is widespread speculation that the coal companies were involved.

The killing was strongly condemned by many groups. The Kerala Council of Churches (KCC) issued a statement deploring the murder.

According to a Nov. 22 article published in the newspaper the Hindu the KCC general secretary, Philip N. Thomas, said Sister John was fighting to protect the rights of the local tribal community. He said that activists such as Sister John were frequently attacked by what he termed a "mafia" that does the bidding of the mining companies.

According to Amnesty International the nun was the fourth social activist to have been killed in unexplained circumstances in India this year.

"Indian authorities must take all necessary measures to guarantee that human rights defenders and other social activists are able to carry out their legitimate and peaceful activities without fear of harassment and intimidation," said Sam Zarifi, Amnesty International's Asia-Pacific director.

VATICAN II AND CHANGE - REFUTING THE CLAIMS OF THE SSPX Part 7

 St. Peter Preaching on Pentecost 

 

Anonymous said... 

 

PART V: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II

Introduction of Vernacular Language - With the adoption of the vernacular, the church loses control, she loses her universality, exchanging her prayers said in "one voice" to more closely resemble "the Tower of Babble". Not only does the Church have to waste time, money, and effort on translations - which have proven to be faulty - her doctrine has suffered from lack of safeguards. "As referring to the use of the vernacular in liturgical prayers - false, rash, disturbing the prescribed order of the celebration of the mysteries, and easily productive of many evils." (Pope Pius VI, "Auctorem Fidei", 1794 A.D.)
Communion in the Hand - This practice has also led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity and was also "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority"
Reduced Eucharistic Fast
Elimination of the Altar Rail - With the removal of the altar rail, not only are communicants encouraged to stand rather than kneel for Holy Communion, but its removal serves to blur the distinction between the sanctuary and the nave and between the priest and the faithful.
"Impoverished" Liturgical Vestments
Possible Elimination of Relics in Altars - Prior to the Second Vatican Council, altars were required to contain relics. This may be traced back to the earliest days of Christianity when Christians (that is, Catholics), celebrated Masses on the tombs of saints. It also corresponds to Scripture, where we see the martyrs under the altar (See Rv. 6:9). After Vatican II, this practice may be optional.
Reduction in Altar Cloths
Replacement of Sacred Chant By Secular Music - This change has also been accompanied by a changed in musical instruments (e.g. went from a pipe organ to guitars and drums)
Elimination of Side Altars - "The proposition of the synod enunciating that it is fitting, in accordance with the order of divine services and ancient custom that there be only one altar in each temple, and therefore, that it is pleased to restore that custom, [is condemned as] rash, injurious to the very ancient pious custom flourishing and approved for these many centuries in the Church, especially in the Latin Church." (Errors of the Synod of Pistoia, Condemned in the Constitution "Auctorem fidei," Aug. 28, 1794 A.D.)
Many Dropped Feast Days - Many feast days were dropped from the universal calendar (or given a lesser status). Note that many of these feasts trace back hundreds of years or more and include especially popular, beloved saints.
Drastic Changes in Prayers for Remaining Feasts - For example, one priest has pointed out that "All Souls' Day is [now] No Souls' Day, even in the original Latin, where the word for soul (anima) has been suppressed in the prayers of November 2."
Candles in Church - Reduced or eliminated. Some may now be artificial.
Crucifix in Church - May be reduced in size, distorted, may not contain a suffering Jesus, etc. Some may be simply plain crosses
Elevation of Man / Apparent Forgetfulness of God (Man-Centered vs. God-Centered) - There seems to be a turning away of man's eyes from God to man. Further, given the changes since the Council (relaxation of penance, discipline, etc.) one might even ask, "Has the council done nothing but seek to please men?" 

November 16, 2011 7:18 PM 

 

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[PART V: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II

Introduction of Vernacular Language - With the adoption of the vernacular, the church loses control, she loses her universality,]

HA HA HA... LATIN WAS A VERNACULAR LANGUAGE AND NOT ONLY A VERNACULAR LANGUAGE BUT A VULGAR LANGUAGE. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT BY WORSHIPPING GOD IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES THE CHURCH LOOSES HER UNIVERSALITY AND CONTROL? EVEN THE HOLY SPIRIT RESPECTED THE VARIOUS LANGUAGES OF THE PEOPLE DURING PENTECOST. THEY HEARD THE APOSTLES SPEAKING IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. LOOK CLOSELY AT THE DOUAY-RHEIMS BIBLE:

Act 2:7-8 And they were all amazed, and wondered, saying: Behold, are not all these that speak Galilean? And how have we heard, every man our own tongue wherein we were born?

Act 2:9-10 Parthians and Medes and Elamites and inhabitants of Mesopotamia, Judea, and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome,

Act 2:11 Jews also, and proselytes, Cretes, and Arabians: we have heard them speak in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.

THE HOLY SPIRIT RESPECTED THE LANGUAGE OF EACH AND EVERY PERSON. AND POPE PAUL VI AND THE VATICAN II BISHOPS WERE FILLED WITH THE SAME SPIRIT. BUT THE SSPX IS FILLED BY THE CONTRARY spirit - THE MALEVOLENT SPIRIT OF REBELLION AND DEFIANCE.

[exchanging her prayers said in "one voice" to more closely resemble "the Tower of Babble".]

IDIOT. THE TOWER OF BABEL WAS BROUGHT BY DEFIANCE AND REBELLION AGAINST GOD WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING BEING DONE BY THE SSPX. THE ESSENCE OF BABEL WAS REBELLION AND NOT THE DIVERSITY OF LANGUAGE. THE SAME DIVERSITY OF LANGUAGE WAS PRESERVED AND RESPECTED IN PENTECOST BUT THE ESSENCE IS COMMUNION WITH GOD NOT REBELLION ANYMORE. THE SSPX IS ACCIDENTALLY UNITED BUT ESSENTIALLY IN REBELLION.

THE CHURCH HAS ONE VOICE BUT NOT ONE LANGUAGE. THE CHURCH IS ALWAYS MULTI-LANGUAGE. EVEN IN QUO PRIMUM THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS AND THERE WERE ALWAYS MASSES IN GREEK, COPTIC, SLAVONIC, LATIN, ETC. IN THE CHURCH PRIOR TO VATICAN II. ONLY LIARS CLAIM OTHERWISE. THE SSPX ARE LIARS IN CLAIMING THAT ONLY LATIN WAS THE LANGUAGE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH PRIOR TO VATICAN II.

THIS IS THE MEANING BY THE CHURCH HAVING ONE VOICE ACCORDING TO ST. PAUL, AGAIN FROM DOUAY-RHEIMS:

Eph 4:3 Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

SEE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THERE IS UNITY. THE SSPX VIOLATED THAT UNITY BY BEING OUTSIDE THE COMMUNION WITH THE CHURCH OF ROME.

Eph 4:4 One body and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling.

THE SSPX IS OUTSIDE THAT ONE BODY AND THEREFORE NOT GOVERNED BY THE SAME SPIRIT OF GOD WHO RESPECTED ALL LANGUAGE. THE APOSTLES WERE HEARD SPEAKING NATIVE LANGUAGES BY THE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. ONLY IDIOTS WILL CLAIM THAT THE APOSTLES WERE HEARD SPEAKING ONE LANGUAGE WHICH WAS LATIN.

Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all.

THERE IS NOTHING WRITTEN THERE "ONE LANGUAGE WHICH IS LATIN"... EXCUSE ME.

Eph 4:7 But to every one of us is given grace, according to the measure of the giving of Christ.

EACH ONE IS GIVEN GRACE AS GIVEN BY CHRIST AND ONE OF THOSE GRACES IS THE GIFT OF LANGUAGE WHICH WAS SANCTIFIED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. THE CHURCH PURIFIED LATIN AND SO SHE WILL ALSO PURIFY THE MODERN LANGUAGES. 

THAT ONE FAITH IS WRITTEN IN GREEK RIGHT THERE AT THE ORIGINAL NEW TESTAMENT AND THE GREEK BIBLE DECLARES BY A ROMAN APOSTLE THAT THE LORD JESUS SHALL BE PRAISED BY EVERY TONGUE:

Phil 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that the Lord Jesus Christ is in the glory of God the Father.

THAT 'EVERY TONGUE' SIGNIFIES ALSO EVERY LANGUAGE. GOD SHALL BE WORSHIPPED IN EACH AND EVERY TONGUE... IN EVERY LANGUAGE. EVEN THE BIBLICAL CONCEPT OF HEAVEN SPEAKS OF THAT RESPECT GIVEN TO EVERY TONGUE:

Rev 7:9 After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no man could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Rev 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven, with an eternal gospel to proclaim to those who dwell on earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people;

SEE, THE DISTINCTION OF NATIONALITY, TRIBAL CHARACTERS AND OF LANGUAGE IS STILL EVIDENT EVEN IN HEAVEN. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE PAULINE MASS IS A MANIFESTATION OF HEAVEN ON EARTH. IT IS SO BIBLICAL AND SO BEAUTIFUL. UNLIKE THE TLM WHICH IS ONE NATION, ONE TRIBE, ONE CULTURE ONLY.

[Not only does the Church have to waste time, money, and effort on translations - which have proven to be faulty - her doctrine has suffered from lack of safeguards.]

IT IS GREATER WASTE OF TIME IF THE CHURCH WILL ONLY USE LATIN WHICH IS UNDERSTOOD ALMOST 99.999999 PERCENT BY THE CLERGY ALONE AND FEW SCHOLARS. IF THEY PRINT THE MISSALS AND MANUALS THEY HAVE PUT THE LATIN SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE TRANSLATIONS SO DOUBLE EXPENSES. IF THEY ARE IN LOCAL LANGUAGES THERE IS NO NEED FOR TRANSLATIONS.

AND IF THE NEW DOCUMENTS ARE WRITTEN IN MODERN LANGUAGES THEN THE TEXT IS ORIGINAL AND NOT A MERE TRANSLATION. THE GOD WHO PROTECTED THE CHURCH FROM THE VULGARITY OF LATIN WHICH WAS A PAGAN LANGUAGE SHALL BE THE SAME GOD THAT WILL PURIFY THE MODERN LANGUAGES FOR THE SAME CHURCH.

["As referring to the use of the vernacular in liturgical prayers - false, rash, disturbing the prescribed order of the celebration of the mysteries, and easily productive of many evils." (Pope Pius VI, "Auctorem Fidei", 1794 A.D.)]

THE POWER THAT BINDS IS THE SAME POWER THAT CAN LOOSES. IF THE POPE PROHIBITS SO BE IT BUT IF HE APPROVES THEN IT IS ALLOWED. THERE IS NO DOGMA THAT LATIN IS THE PERPETUAL LANGUAGE OF THE CHURCH. THE POPE IS FREE TO RETAIN IT OR REPLACE IT AFTERWARD. THE SSPX STUPIDLY MADE LATIN A DOGMA EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT. THEY CLAIMED THAT THE VATICAN II IS NOT A DOGMATIC COUNCIL BUT PASTORAL. HOW ABOUT THE USE OF LATIN IS THAT A DOGMA? NO. IT IS ALSO FOR PASTORAL USE. 

[Communion in the Hand - This practice has also led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity and was also "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority"]

IT IS THE SSPX WHICH IS REBELLIOUS TO AUTHORITY AND NOT THOSE WHO IMPLEMENT THE INDULT GIVEN BY THE HOLY SEE. THERE IS NO PROFANATION AND SACRILEGE IN COMMUNION BY THE HAND BECAUSE THAT HAND BELONGS TO A WORSHIPPER, BAPTIZED CATHOLIC FAITHFUL.

IF THE HAND OF THE BAPTIZED CATHOLIC IS UNWORTHY TO RECEIVE THE LORD THEN NEITHER HIS HAND NOR HIS TONGUE OR LIPS OR MOUTH IS WORTHY TO RECEIVE HIM. THE UNWORTHINESS OR WORTHINESS OF A FAITHFUL IS NOT LIMITED TO THE MOUTH OR TONGUE OR LIPS ONLY BUT TO THE ENTIRE BODY AND SOUL OF THAT PERSON.

[Reduced Eucharistic Fast]

IT IS NOT REDUCED BUT ONLY IMPOSED LESS WITH REGULATIONS. YOU CAN FAST TODAY IN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. FASTING IS ENCOURAGE AND TAUGHT BUT LESS REGULATED. IT IS THE REGULATIONS THAT WAS LESSENED BUT NOT THE FASTING ITSELF.

[Elimination of the Altar Rail - With the removal of the altar rail, not only are communicants encouraged to stand rather than kneel for Holy Communion, but its removal serves to blur the distinction between the sanctuary and the nave and between the priest and the faithful.]

THE COMMUNION RAIL IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE MASS. THE POPE WAS VERY KIND AND WISE TO REMOVE IT. ALL FAITHFUL CATHOLICS ARE KNEELING IN THE AGNUS DEI, THAT KNEELING IS ALREADY THE KNEELING FOR THE WORSHIP OF THE EUCHARIST SO THAT WHEN THEY STAND TO RECEIVE THE LORD IT WAS NOT DONE AVOIDING KNEELING BUT RATHER IT WAS AN ACT OF MEETING THE LORD AFTER KNEELING IN FRONT OF HIM.

["Impoverished" Liturgical Vestments]

IDIOT. IT IS NOT IMPOVERISHED BUT SIMPLIFED. SIMPLICITY IS BETTER THAN EXTRAVAGANCE AND POMPOSITY OF SSPX LITURGY.

[Possible Elimination of Relics in Altars - Prior to the Second Vatican Council, altars were required to contain relics. This may be traced back to the earliest days of Christianity when Christians (that is, Catholics), celebrated Masses on the tombs of saints. It also corresponds to Scripture, where we see the martyrs under the altar (See Rv. 6:9). After Vatican II, this practice may be optional.]

THE GREATEST SACRAMENT OF ALL IS THE BODY AND BLOOD OF JESUS PRESENT ON THE ALTAR OF SACRIFICE. RELIC OR NO RELIC THE ALTAR TABLE IS A RELIC ON ITS OWN BECAUSE IT IS TOUCHED BY THE BODY AND BLOOD OF THE LORD DAILY THROUGH THE HOLY SACRIFICE OF THE MASS.

[Reduction in Altar Cloths]

WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE ALTAR CLOTHS MUST NOT BE REDUCED. IF THEY ARE REDUCED SO MUCH THE BETTER. THE ALTARS MUST NOT APPEAR AS IF AN OPERA HOUSE COVERED WITH CURTAINS. THE CLOTHS OF SSPX LITURGY IS SIMILAR TO THE SKIRTS OF MARIE ANTOINETTE. 

[Replacement of Sacred Chant By Secular Music - This change has also been accompanied by a changed in musical instruments (e.g. went from a pipe organ to guitars and drums)]

HA HA HA... IDIOT. THE SONGS SUNG IN THE MASS ARE NOT SECULAR MUSIC BUT RELIGIOUS MUSIC. THEY ARE MODERN SACRED SONGS. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT ONLY GREGORIAN CHANTS ARE SACRED MUSIC?

GUITARS AND DRUMS ARE USED IN THE SINGING OF THE PSALMS IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD. STRING INSTRUMENTS ARE ALSO ACCEPTABLE TO GOD BUT REJECTED BY THE SSPX BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF GOD.

[Elimination of Side Altars - "The proposition of the synod enunciating that it is fitting, in accordance with the order of divine services and ancient custom that there be only one altar in each temple, and therefore, that it is pleased to restore that custom, [is condemned as] rash, injurious to the very ancient pious custom flourishing and approved for these many centuries in the Church, especially in the Latin Church." (Errors of the Synod of Pistoia, Condemned in the Constitution "Auctorem fidei," Aug. 28, 1794 A.D.)]

HA HA HA... IT IS THE SSPX THAT IS BEING CONDEMNED BY AUCTOREM FIDEI BECAUSE THE SSPX DEMONICALLY REJECTS THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH TO IMPOSE RULES AND DECREES ESPECIALLY THOSE GIVEN BY THE VATICAN II ECUMENICAL COUNCIL:

"5. In that part in which the proposition insinuates that the Church "does not have authority to demand obedience to its decrees otherwise than by means which depend on persuasion; in so far as it intends that the Church has not conferred on it by God the power, not only of directing by counsel and persuasion, but also of ordering by laws, and of constraining and forcing the inconstant and stubborn by exterior judgment and salutary punishments" leading toward a system condemned elsewhere as heretical." [AUCTORUM FIDEI]

THE SUBVERSION AND SCHISMATIC TENDENCIES OF SSPX ARE ALSO CONDEMNED BY THE SAME DOCUMENT:

"7. Likewise, in this, that it encourages a bishop "to pursue zealously a more perfect constitution of ecclesiastical discipline," and this "against all contrary customs, exemptions, reservations which are opposed to the good order of the diocese, for the greater glory of God and for the greater edification of the faithful"; in that it supposes that a bishop has the right by his own judgment and will to decree and decide contrary to customs, exemptions, reservations, whether they prevail in the universal Church or even in each province, without the consent or the intervention of a higher hierarchic power, by which these customs, etc., have been introduced or approved and have the force of law,—leading to schism and subversion of hierarchic rule, erroneous."

THIS IS WHAT LEFEBVRE, FELLAY, WILLIAMSON, TISSIER DE MALLERAIS AND THEIR COHORTS ARE DOING. HERE IS ANOTHER WHICH DIRECTLY REFUTES THE CLAIM OF THE SSPX:

"8. Likewise, in that it says it is convinced that "the rights of a bishop received from Jesus Christ for the government of the Church cannot be altered nor hindered, and, when it has happened that the exercise of these rights has been interrupted for any reason whatsoever, a bishop can always and should return to his original rights, as often as the greater good of his church demands it"; in the fact that it intimates that the exercise of episcopal rights can be hindered and coerced by no higher power, whenever a bishop shall judge that it does not further the greater good of his church,—leading to schism, and to subversion of hierarchic government, erroneous."

IF THESE SSPX ANIMALS ARE THINKING THAT THE DOCUMENT AUCTORUM FIDEI SHALL HELP THEM THEN THEY ARE IN FOR SURPRISES. YOUR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE SHALL HUNT YOU SSPX.

CONCERNING YOUR CLAIM THAT WE REMOVED THE SIDE ALTARS. WELL, SORRY FOR YOU. WE DIDN'T REMOVE THEM THE SIDE ALTARS ARE STILL THERE AT THE SIDE. IN FACT, IN OUR NEWLY RENOVATED CATHEDRAL OF STS. PETER AND PAUL IN SORSOGON CITY THE DAILY MASSES ARE DONE AT THE SIDE CHAPEL. HA HA HA... FOOLS.

[Many Dropped Feast Days - Many feast days were dropped from the universal calendar (or given a lesser status). Note that many of these feasts trace back hundreds of years or more and include especially popular, beloved saints.]

O NO THEY ARE NOT DROPPED. THEY ARE STILL THERE. WHO AMONG THOSE SAINTS ARE DROPPED? ALL THE SAINTS FROM MAMA MARY UP TO THE PRESENT SAINTS ARE NOT DROPPED THEY ARE ALL CELEBRATED ACCORDING TO THEIR FEASTDAYS. YOU ARE HALLUCINATING.

[Drastic Changes in Prayers for Remaining Feasts - For example, one priest has pointed out that "All Souls' Day is [now] No Souls' Day, even in the original Latin, where the word for soul (anima) has been suppressed in the prayers of November 2."]

HA HA HA VERY STUPID. SO, YOU ARE HURT BY THE LACK OF THE WORD SOULS. BUT IF YOU ARE NOT STUPID YOU FIND IN ALREADY IN THE VERY TITLE: "ALL SOULS DAY" IN LARGE ANG BOLD LETTERS. AND INSTEAD OF USING THE WORD SOULS IN THE PRAYER IT USES "OUR DEPARTED BROTHERS AND SISTERS". SO INSTEAD OF REFERRING TO SOULS IT REFERS TO THE PERSON OF THE DEPARTED BOTH BODY AND SOUL. HA HA HA... THE SENILITY OF LEFEBVRE IS CONTAGIOUS.

[Candles in Church - Reduced or eliminated. Some may now be artificial.]

CANDLES ARE VERY MUCH PRESENT IN EVERY MASS AND IN TLM ONLY TWO CANDLES ARE USED DURING THE LOW MASS BUT IN NOVUS ORDO MOST OF THE ALTARS ARE ADORNED WITH MINIMUM 4 CANDLES EVEN IN DAILY MASSES. THE PAULINE MASS USES MORE CANDLES THAN THE TLM MOST OF THE TIME. 

[Crucifix in Church - May be reduced in size, distorted, may not contain a suffering Jesus, etc. Some may be simply plain crosses
Elevation of Man / Apparent Forgetfulness of God (Man-Centered vs. God-Centered) - There seems to be a turning away of man's eyes from God to man. Further, given the changes since the Council (relaxation of penance, discipline, etc.) one might even ask, "Has the council done nothing but seek to please men?"]

YOU ARE HALLUCINATING. ALMOST ALL OF THE CHURCHES THAT I HAVE VISITED AND HAVE CELEBRATED MASS IN ARE HAVING LARGE CRUCIFIX IN THE ALTAR RIGHT AT THE CENTER AND ON THE TOP. MAY BE THE SSPX HAVE ENTERED THE LUTHERAN CHURCH. HA HA HA... 

WHAT TURNING AWAY FROM GOD ARE  YOU TALKING ABOUT? IF THE PAULINE MASS IS WRONG FOR YOU BECAUSE OF AD VERSUM POPULUM THEN YOUR AD ORIENTEM IS A MANIFESTATION OF SSPX EXTREME FORM OF SELFISHNESS. YOUR PRIESTS DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FAITHFUL BUT IT IS MERELY CONCERNED WITH HIS JOB WHICH IS MOSTLY SILENT AND TALKING TO ONE'S SELF.

November 29, 2011 10:58 PM

PRO-LIFE MANIFESTO SPREADING ALL OVER THE WORLD!

The Madonna and Child Christmas Card

 

WORLD FEATURES

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Pro-Life Manifesto Spreading

Reassures Politicians There Is No International 'Right' to Abortion

ROME, NOV. 28, 2011 (Zenit.org).- A pro-life document by the name of the San Jose Articles is being publicized in many countries around the world. The most recent countries where it has been presented are Italy, Uruguay and the Philippines.

The Articles contain a series of affirmations regarding the inviolability of human life and the fact that there is no international "right" to abortion. It is meant to be an aid to counter affirmations by agencies and representatives of the United Nations who continue to insist such a right does exist.

The document has been signed by leading academics, such as Robert George of Princeton, John Haldane of St. Andrews, and John Finnis of Oxford. It is also supported by prominent politicians, including Anna Zaborska of the European Parliament and former French Cabinet Minister Christine Boutin.

According to the latest issue of the Friday Fax, published by the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute, the Articles were recently launched in the Philippine's Cebu City during the National Philippines for Life Congress.

Among those present were the former Majority Leader of the Philippine Senate Francisco Tatad and Archbishop Jose Serofia Palma of Cebu. 

"The San Jose Articles are primarily meant to shut down the false claim of an international right to abortion; but they constitute one of the biggest boosts so far to our fight against foreign-dictated contraception and sterilization," Tatad told the Friday Fax.

The Friday Fax also reported that a spontaneous launch of the Articles took place in the national legislature of Uruguay this month. Those present included numerous politicians, including several former high-ranking ministers.

In October the Articles were launched in Madrid, London and Strasbourg. 

Earlier in November the Rome launch took place. Among the Italians present were Giuseppe Benagiano of La Sapienza University of Rome, who is also the secretary general of the International Federation of Gynecology and Obstetrics, and Luca Volonte, president of the European Popular Party group in the Council of Europe.

LET US PRAY AND SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE HOLY FATHER AGAINST THE TRAITORS IN AUSTRIA AND BELGIUM!

The Gate of Hell Shall Not Prevail. These traitors shall suffer the fate of the Heresiarchs and Schismatics and Rebels: Lucifer-Luther-Lefebvre, Arius-Nestorius, Manalo-Soriano... They will die in infamy and shame.

OUR GOOD FRIEND AND FELLOW CATHOLIC APOLOGIST REPORTED IN THEIR POPULAR BLOG "THE RORATE CAELI" THAT THERE IS AN ORCHESTRATED ACTS OF SCHISM OR TREACHERY AGAINST THE POPE AND TRADITION IN AUSTRIA AND BELGIUM. LET US UNITE OURSELVES WITH THE HOLY FATHER, THE POPE, DURING THIS ORDEAL BEGGING THE HOL SPIRIT TO FILL HIM WITH GRACE AND WISDOM AS WELL AS FOR THE HEAVENLY HOSTS LED BY ST. MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL DEFEND HIM FROM THE TRAITORS WHO ARE LIBERALISTS AND FROM THE SSPX ON THE OTHER SIDE. BOTH ARE EQUALLY REBELLIOUS AND BOTH ARE EQUAL IN TREACHERY. HERE IS THE POST:

 

Rebellion in Flanders

The Dutch Catholic blog In caelo et in terra has the story:

The disobedient actions of priests in Austria (there most visibly, but similar feelings are also present among clergy in other countries), who call for married priests, ordination of women and lay people ‘celebrating’ the Eucharist (a sheer impossibility, equal to, say, having fish wait tables), has also spread to Belgium. From the Diocese of Bruges, to be exact. A manifest titled “Faithful have their say” (‘Gelovigen nemen het woord’) has by now been signed by several hundred people, among them 155 priests. (The number now stands at 211 - Pascal) The full text, along with the names of the priests who signed it, is available, in Dutch, here.

The full list of signatories (5,459 and counting, including 211 priests so far) is located here. The manifesto's signatories call themselves "Flemish believers" and claim to have come up with this manifesto "in solidarity with fellow believers in Austria, Ireland and other countries who also insist on reforms".

The epicenter of this movement, the Diocese of Bruges, happens to be led by Bishop Jozef De Kesel.

The propositions of the Belgian manifesto are as follows:

1) We do not understand why the leadership of our local communities (such as parishes) is not entrusted to a man or woman, married or unmarried, professional or volunteer, who received the necessary formation.

2) We need dedicated shepherds. We do not understand why these fellow faithful cannot lead Sunday services.

3) In every living community we need liturgical leaders. We do not understand why – when there is no priest – a service of Word and Communion is not allowed.

4) We do not understand why skilled laypeople and formed religious educators can not preach. We need the Word of God.

5) We do not understand why faithful of good will who remarried after a divorce have to be denied Communion. They are equally part of the community.

Mark de Vries has a more thorough analysis of the propositions and what is behind these.

***

The picture is that of the former Franciscan church in Mechlin, put up for sale by the friars in 1999 and reopened in 2009 as the Martin Patershof hotel. (More photos). Quite in keeping with the spirit of the Church in Flanders...

 http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2011/11/rebellion-in-flanders.html

VATICAN II AND CHANGE - REFUTING THE CLAIMS OF THE SSPX Part 6

His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI baptizes former prominent Muslim Magdi Allam... while the SSPX are not converting the Protestants and Muslims, they focus on their treacherous attacks against the Pope.

 

Anonymous said... 

 

PART IV: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II

Reduction in Demands Made of Catholics - "Relaxing of rules teaches that duties can be eliminated when they prove difficult, it also results in the relaxing of the will, and provides no checking of natural impulses". According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "[The post-conciliar Church] is reducing its demands and no longer resolving problems in accordance with the will of God, but in accordance with man's natural capacities".
Revolutionary New, Protestantized Liturgies - "With all due respect, some Catholic churches have become Protestant churches or community halls." (Msgr. Campell) Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci have even stated that "To prepare a complete study of all the pitfalls, dangers and psychologically and spiritually destructive elements the new rite contains, whether in texts, rubrics or instructions, would be a vast undertaking."
Changed Ordination Rite - According to Davies, the ordination rite "has been Protestantized even more thoroughly than the New Mass". He says that, "[E]very prayer in the traditional rite which stated specifically the essential role of a priest as a man ordained to offer propitiatory sacrifice for the living and dead has been removed. In most cases these were the precise prayers removed by the Protestant Reformers, or if not precisely the same there are clear parallels."
Changed Baptisms - According to Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome: "the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. [Pope] Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite."
Changed Rites for Other Sacraments - Many of these changes have been drastic
Elimination of Explicitly Sacrificial Prayers in Mass - This change is quote troublesome as it parallels the changes made by the Protestant 'Reformers' in the 16th century.
Changed Cycle of Readings For Mass - The new cycle is based on a 2-3 year cycle of readings rather than a one year cycle (which means that the same readings may take up to three years to reappear, thereby reducing retention)
Abolition of Black Vestments
Loss of Minor Orders
Changed Altars - Marble altars have been replaced by wooden tables
"Demotion" of the Altar - The altar, which represents Christ, in many new (or "wreckovated") churches, rather than being elevated above the laity, may now be on the same level as - or even lower than - the laity
"Demotion" of the Tabernacle - Often, the Tabernacle has been removed from the altar and has even been moved outside the Church (e.g. into a chapel). As Pope Pius XII said, "To separate the Tabernacle from the Altar is tantamount to separating two things which, of their very nature, must remain together."
Communion Under Both Species - This practice has led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity. This practice as was "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority". 

November 16, 2011 7:16 PM

 

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said...

[PART IV: CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II

Reduction in Demands Made of Catholics - "Relaxing of rules teaches that duties can be eliminated when they prove difficult, it also results in the relaxing of the will, and provides no checking of natural impulses". According to Cardinal Wyszynski, "]

ANOTHER STUPID CLAIM. CARDINAL WYSZNSKI REFUTES THIS ERROR BUT HE DIDN'T ATTRIBUTE IT TO THE POPE AND THE CHURCH. CARDINAL WYSZYNSKI REMAINED LOYAL TO THE POPE. CLAIMING CARDINAL WYSZINSKI TO SUPPORT THE SSPX IS AN ACT OF DESPERATION OF THE SSPX. THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF ARGUMENTS AND SO THEY ARE USING THE FAITHFUL CARDINALS TO ADVANCE THEIR LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE.

WHERE DID CARD. WYSZYNSKI STATED THEREIN THAT RULES CANNOT BE CHANGED BY THE POPE?


[[The post-conciliar Church] is reducing its demands and no longer resolving problems in accordance with the will of God, but in accordance with man's natural capacities".]

HA HA HA... REJECTING THE AUTHORITY OF THE SEE OF PETER ESTABLSIHED PERSONALLY BY JESUS IS CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD. THAT IS VERY CLEAR AND FOR THAT THE SSPX VIOLATED AND HAVE REBELLED AGAINST THE CHURCH AND THE LORD GOD. REVISING THE RULES OF THE CHURCH IS NOT AGAINST THE WILL OF GOD. IT IS THE SSPX THAT VIOLATES THE WILL OF GOD.


[Revolutionary New, Protestantized Liturgies -]

IDIOT. THE TRUE PROTESTANTS HATE THE NOVUS ORDO MASS. THE SSPX HATES THE NOVUS ORDO MASS. IT SHOWS THAT BOTH THE PROTESTANTS AND THE SSPX ARE POSSESSED BY THE SAME DEMON OF REBELLION AGAINST THE CHURCH AND THE POPE.

MAX THURIAN, BRO. ROGER OF TAIZE BECAME CATHOLICS BECAUSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. DR. SCOTT HAHN, STEVE RAY, MARCUS GRODI, JIMMY AKIN AND THOUSANDS MORE BECAME CATHOLICS BECAUSE OF THE NOVUS ORDO. BUT THE SSPX HOW MANY CONVERTS DID THEY GOT? ALMOST ZERO IF THERE IS ONE. THE SSPX IS VERY PROTESTANT... THEY PROTEST AGAINST THE POPE. LUCIFER = LUTHER = LEFEBVRE... MUTATIS MUTANDIS.

["With all due respect, some Catholic churches have become Protestant churches or community halls." (Msgr. Campell) Cardinals Ottaviani & Bacci have even stated that "To prepare a complete study of all the pitfalls, dangers and psychologically and spiritually destructive elements the new rite contains, whether in texts, rubrics or instructions, would be a vast undertaking."]

IDIOTIC INTERPRETATION. CARDINAL OTTAVIANI AND BACCI LIVED AND DIED IN COMMUNION WITH THE POPE. THEY WERE NOT DECEIVED BY THE STUPIDITIES AND LIES OF LEFEBVRE.

[Changed Ordination Rite -]

SO WHAT. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE RITE OF ORDINATION CANNOT BE CHANGED? ACTUALLY IT WAS NOT CHANGED BUT SIMPLY REVISED AND SIMPLIFIED. THANK GOD FOR THAT.

[According to Davies,]

DAVIES WHO? WHO IS THE ANIMAL? WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE AN OPINION. THE OFFICIAL VOICE OF THE CHURCH IS THE POPE.

[the ordination rite "has been Protestantized even more thoroughly than the New Mass".]

STUPID. THE PROTESTANTS DO NOT HAVE MINISTERIAL PRIESTHOOD SO WHAT PROTESTANTIZED RITE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE REVISED RITE OF ORDINATION IS AS CATHOLIC AS THE NEW MASS AND THE OLD RITES AND THE OLD MASSES WHO WERE ONCE NEW LIKE THE TLM WHICH WAS NEW DURING THE 16TH CENTURY.


[He says that, "[E]very prayer in the traditional rite which stated specifically the essential role of a priest as a man ordained to offer propitiatory sacrifice for the living and dead has been removed. In most cases these were the precise prayers removed by the Protestant Reformers, or if not precisely the same there are clear parallels."]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THE PRAYERS ARE SIMPLIFIED BUT ALL ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS ARE THERE. THE PROTESTANTS REMOVED THE SACRAMENT OF THE HOLY ORDER NOT JUST PART OF THE PRAYER. 

 

[Changed Baptisms -]

O NO, NO, NO... BAPTISM WAS NOT CHANGED. IT WAS THE RITE OF BAPTISM THAT WAS REVISED AND SIMPLIFIED.

[According to Fr. Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome:]

FR. GABRIELE AMORTH IS NOT THE CHIEF EXORCIST IN ROME. THERE IS NO SUCH TITLE OR POSITION IN ROME. THE CHIEF EXORCIST IN ROME IS THE POPE WHO IS THE BISHOP OF ROME. THE POPE IS ALSO THE CHIEF EXORCIST OF THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH.

["the rite of baptism for children has also been spoiled. It has been so drastically overhauled that the exorcism against Satan has virtually been eliminated. This had always held a very great importance for the Church, so much so that it is called the minor exorcism. [Pope] Paul VI himself publicly protested against this new rite."]

THAT IS JUST AN OPINION. FR. AMORTH IS A PROMINENT EXORCIST IN ROME BUT HE IS NOT THE HEAD OF THE LITURGICAL EXPERTS. HIS OPINION IS NICE BUT IT DOES NOT INVALIDATE THE BAPTISM IN THE CHURCH. THE ACT AND FORMULA OF BAPTISM WITH WATER ALONE IS ENOUGH FOR A VALID SACRAMENT AND FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE ORIGINAL SIN AND TO EXORCISE THE INFLUENCE OF SATAN FROM THE NEWLY BAPTIZED.

[Changed Rites for Other Sacraments - Many of these changes have been drastic]

IT WAS A REVISION THAT IS CALLED FOR AND NECESSARY WITHOUT DIMINISHING THE VALIDITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SACRAMENTS. YOU CAN CRY YOUR HEART OUT TO NO AVAIL BUT THE REVISION IS DONE PROPERLY AND CORRECTLY.

[Elimination of Explicitly Sacrificial Prayers in Mass - This change is quote troublesome as it parallels the changes made by the Protestant 'Reformers' in the 16th century.]

ONLY LIARS WILL CLAIM THIS BECAUSE THE SACRIFICIAL NATURE OF THE MASS IS REPEATEDLY AND CATEGORICALLY MENTIONED IN THE PAULINE MASS. DREAM ON. THE REFORMERS REMOVED THE MASS NOT THE SACRIFICIAL NATURE OF THE MASS. 

 

[Changed Cycle of Readings For Mass - The new cycle is based on a 2-3 year cycle of readings rather than a one year cycle (which means that the same readings may take up to three years to reappear, thereby reducing retention)]

IDIOT. THE BIBLICAL READINGS IN ONE CYCLE OF TLM DOESN'T COVER THE ENTIRE BIBLE UNLIKE THE THREE YEAR CYCLE THAT COVERS ALMOST THE ENTIRE BIBLE. THE NEW CYCLE OF READINGS HAVE MORE BIBLICAL TREASURES TO OFFER WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND READING AND RESPONSORIAL PSALM.

[Abolition of Black Vestments]

BECAUSE BLACK VESTMENTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH SATAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS. WE ARE CHILDREN OF LIGHT NOT OF DARKNESS LIKE THE SSPX WHO ARE IN LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE POPE. THE SSPX PRIESTS LOOK LIKE ALWAYS CELEBRATING THE BLACK MASS IN WORSHIP OF SATAN.

[Loss of Minor Orders]

IDIOT. THE MINOR ORDERS ARE NOT LOSS. THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE MAJOR ORDERS.

[Changed Altars - Marble altars have been replaced by wooden tables]

BECAUSE MARBLES ARE EXPENSIVE NOWADAYS. EVEN THE ARK OF THE COVENANT WAS MADE OF WOOD PRIMARILY SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? THOSE WHO ARE FROM RICH COUNTRIES OR PLACES STILL HAVE MARBLE ALTARS IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE FACT.

["Demotion" of the Altar - The altar, which represents Christ, in many new (or "wreckovated") churches, rather than being elevated above the laity, may now be on the same level as - or even lower than - the laity]

HA HA HA... THIS IS STUPID. THIS SSPX IS IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT WHEN JESUS WAS HERE ON EARTH HE WALKED ON THE SAME GROUND WITH THE PEOPLE. BESIDES, THE BLESSED SACRAMENT IS ABOVE ALL EVEN IF IT IS PUT IN TABERNACLE ON SAME LEVEL WITH THE PEOPLE.

BUT IN FACT THE ACCUSATION IS NOT TRUE. THE LOW LEVEL BLESSED SACRAMENT IS ONL FOR THOSE SMALL CHURCHES WHOSE ALTAR IS LOW. BUT ALMOST ALL CHURCHES PUT THE BLESSED SACRAMENT A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE ALTAR.

["Demotion" of the Tabernacle - Often, the Tabernacle has been removed from the altar and has even been moved outside the Church (e.g. into a chapel). As Pope Pius XII said, "To separate the Tabernacle from the Altar is tantamount to separating two things which, of their very nature, must remain together."]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... WHAT IS PUT OUTSIDE IS A SPECIAL ALTAR FOR THE WORSHIP OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT DAY AND NIGHT. BUT INSIDE THE CHURCHES THERE ARE STILL BLESSED SACRAMENTS FOR WORSHIP ALSO AND FOR HOLY COMMUNION.

VEN. POPE PIUS XII IS RIGHT AND WE ARE RIGHT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEPARATE THE ALTAR AND THE BLESSED SACRAMENT. INSTEAD, WE BUILD ANOTHER ALTAR WITH REPOSITORY OF THE BLESSED SACRAMENT FOR DAILY ADORATION AND WORSHIP. THE SEPARATION IS ON THE MIND OF THE SSPX WHO SATANICALLY SEPARATED THEMSELVES FROM THE HOLY SEE.

[Communion Under Both Species - This practice has led to profanation, sacrilege, and the blurring of the distinction between priest and laity. This practice as was "introduced illegally and as a rebellion against authority".]

HA HA HA... WHAT A HYPOCRISY. A VERY PHARISAICAL STATEMENT FROM THE SSPX REBELS. HA HA HA...

WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT COMMUNION UNDER BOTH SPECIES IS WRONG OR EVIL? WHO? THIS IS RARELY DONE AND IF THIS IS PERMITTED BY THE CHURCH THEN IT IS OK. THERE IS NO SACRILEGE IN IT BECAUSE THE WORSHIPPERS RECEIVE THEM WITH RESPECT. 

November 29, 2011 2:12 PM

BLAMING THE CHURCH FOR THE FAILURE OF MARRIAGE OF AN SSPX

Jesus and the Woman Caught in Adultery by Poussin 1653, Louvre Mauseum in France

 

Anonymous said... 

 

With regards to your final statement respecting "anonymous" opinion regarding annulments:

I have asked the Catholic Church in America and in Rome(for over 20 years), to act on behalf of our valid, sacramental marriage, which the Roman Rota could find no evidence to nullify but rather, this reprobate Pope will do nothing, when, in fact, if he so desired, he could use Papal authority to summon both my wife and her longtime lover to Rome to answer for their adultery, repent or face excommunication. He also could advise the bishop in authority in the US, that this was his EXPRESS WILL to attempt to bring reconciliation or to make conditions such, via formal excommunication, that the unrepentant adulterers would reconsider their whoring!

He does nothing. Nor does my bishop. Nor does their Bishop. Nor will their priest.

Support for open adultery by catholic priests and bishops is everywhere in America. He who says this is not so is a DAMNED LIAR.

If you can find a bishop from the Philippines with the integrity and the balls under his cassock to DEMAND Papal intervention in this case, on behalf of our valid marriage, or who will resign his see on the spot should this weak Pope refuse to be the pastor he is SUPPOSED to be, I will meet him in Rome for our combined audience!

There is no such bishop willing to defend a sacrament, with his see; not one with any large See or widespread reputation for orthodoxy, anyway. I know there are NONE who are good bishops in America. Perhaps the Church in the Pilippines has some decent bishops?

I do not think you really understand how lousy our priests and bishops are respecting marriage. This is certainly true for the two most recent failures called Popes and is true in America.

Karl 

November 29, 2011 1:49 AM  

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[With regards to your final statement respecting "anonymous" opinion regarding annulments:]

YES, MR. KARL THE REPROBATE,

[I have asked the Catholic Church in America and in Rome(for over 20 years), to act on behalf of our valid, sacramental marriage,]

OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE LYING HERE. MATTERS CONCERNING MARRIAGE MUST BE BROUGHT TO THE OFFICE OF THE BISHOP IN YOUR DIOCESE AND NOT 'THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN AMERICA AND IN ROME' WHICH IS VERY VAGUE. BE REAL MAN AND STOP DAYDREAMING.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE, CASES THAT ARE NOT YET SETTLED IN THE DIOCESAN LEVEL CANNOT JUST BE PRESENTED IMMEDIATELY TO THE HOLY SEE IN THE VATICAN. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS FORUM SHOPPING. THAT IS A MISTAKE ON YOUR PART.

[which the Roman Rota could find no evidence to nullify but rather,]

SO, YOUR MARRIAGE IS THEN PRESERVED INTACT BECAUSE THE ROMAN ROTA COULD FIND NO EVIDENCE TO NULLIFY IT. YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT THE ROMAN ROTA DEFENDED THE SANCTITY AND INTEGRITY OF YOUR MARRIAGE. SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?

[this reprobate Pope will do nothing,]

YOU ARE A FOOL. THE POPE IS NOT A REPROBATE, YOU ARE.

IF YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT YOU KNOW THAT THE ROMAN ROTA DECIDES CASES AS THE ARM OF THE POPE. IT HAS A DELEGATED AUTHORITY FROM THE HOLY FATHER AND THE POPE BEING FAITHFUL TO THE COMMAND OF THE LORD THAT "THOSE WHOM GOD HAD UNITED LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER" CONFIRMED THE VALIDITY OF YOUR MARRIAGE.

[when, in fact, if he so desired, he could use Papal authority to summon both my wife and her longtime lover to Rome to answer for their adultery, repent or face excommunication.]

IDIOT. THE POPE IS NOT STUPID LIKE YOU. IF YOU ARE ANGRY WITH YOUR WIFE BECAUSE OF HER ADULTERY DO NOT USE THE POPE TO EXACT YOUR REVENGE.

IF YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE POPE IS NOT AWARE OF THE ADULTERY OF YOUR WIFE. IF YOU ARE TRULY CONVINCED THAT SHE WAS DOING SO THEN FILE A CASE AGAINST HER IN COURT FOR VIOLATING HER SWORN OATH TO BE FAITHFUL TO YOU. DON'T DEMAND FROM THE POPE ACTIONS THAT BELONGS TO YOU.

YOU ARE PATHETIC. YOUR WIFE ABANDONED YOU FOR HER LOVER AND YOU WANT OTHERS TO FIGHT FOR YOU. YOU ARE A COWARD AND YOU WANT THE POPE TO SERVE AS YOUR PUPPET TO HIDE YOUR COWARDICE.

[He also could advise the bishop in authority in the US, that this was his EXPRESS WILL to attempt to bring reconciliation or to make conditions such, via formal excommunication, that the unrepentant adulterers would reconsider their whoring!]

HA HA HA... YOU ARE TRULY AN IDIOT. YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT THE LORD JESUS DIDN'T CAST THE FIRST STONE ON THE WOMAN CAUGHT WITH ADULTERY. YOU WANT THE POPE TO CAST THE FIRST STONE ON HER BECAUSE YOU ARE A COWARD TO DO SO. THE POPE IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF YOUR CASE. THAT JOB BELONGS TO THE LOCAL BISHOP AND HIS COMMISSION. AND THEIR DUTY IS NOT TO HURL EXCOMMUNICATIONS OUTRIGHT BECAUSE IT HAS NOT TRIED YOUR WIFE AND HAVE PROVEN HER ADULTERY. IF SHE IS COMMITTING ADULTERY THEN THE CHURCH IS CLEAR AND CATEGORICAL THAT ADULTERY IS A SIN AND AN ABOMINABLE ACT AGAINST THE LORD AND THE CHURCH. BUT LEGAL AND MORAL AND EVEN FINANCIAL DAMAGES AGAINST YOUR WIFE AND HER LOVER MUST COME FROM YOU. IT IS YOU WHO MUST FILE A CASE AGAINST THEM IN COURT. DO NOT DEMAND FROM THE POPE YOUR OWN DUTY. END YOUR STUPIDITY AND COWARDICE. 

 

[He does nothing. Nor does my bishop. Nor does their Bishop. Nor will their priest.]

THEY DID. THEY CONDEMN ADULTERY. BUT THE PUNISHMENT AGAINST YOUR WIFE MUST COME FROM YOU AND NOT FROM US. IF YOU ARE COWARDLY IN FILING LEGAL DAMAGES HOW MUCH MORE THE CHURCH AUTHORITY WHO HAS NO LEGAL POWER OVER THEM.

HOW CAN WE BELIEVE THAT YOUR WIFE TRULY COMMITTED ADULTERY? WE CANNOT JUST RELY ON YOUR CLAIMS. YOU MUST PROVE IT FIRST.

[Support for open adultery by catholic priests and bishops is everywhere in America.]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. THE SECULARIST SOCIETY IS SO ANGRY AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR OUR MORAL TEACHING. AND IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT AND BLIND YOU KNOW THAT THE 6TH COMMANDMENT OF GOD IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS: "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY". SORRY FOR YOU, YOUR CLAIM IS PATHETIC AND IDIOTIC.

[He who says this is not so is a DAMNED LIAR.]

O NO, NO, NO... THE COMMANDMENT AND TEACHING OF THE CHURCH IS VERY CLEAR AND THEY ARE BEING MEMORIZED BY CATHOLIC CHILDREN FROM CHILDHOOD BOTH AT HOME AND AT SCHOOL AT THE CHURCH. ONLY FOOLS LIKE YOU DENY THE CATHOLIC OPPOSITION TO ADULTERY. YOU ARE NOT JUST A LIAR BUT A PATHETIC FOOL.

[If you can find a bishop from the Philippines with the integrity and the balls under his cassock to DEMAND Papal intervention in this case,]

IDIOT. YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU FILED YOUR CASE IN AMERICA THEN IN ROME AND NOW YOU WANT IT TO BE SETTLED BY A PHILIPPINE BISHOP. HA HA HA... YOU ARE MAKING ME LAUGH. OBVIOUSLY YOUR CLAIM IS JUST A FABLE. SORRY FOR YOU. YOUR LIE HAS BEEN REVEALED.

OUR CATHOLIC BISHOPS HAVE BALLS AND IT IS YOU WHO DO NOT HAVE THEM. THAT IS THE REASON WHY YOUR WIFE ABANDONED YOU FOR ANOTHER MAN BECAUSE OF THAT FACT: THAT YOU DON'T HAVE BALLS.

OUR BISHOPS HAVE THE BALLS TO TELL YOU THAT YOUR MARRIAGE IS VALID AND NO REASON TO NULLIFY IT ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN. SO, THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.

[on behalf of our valid marriage, or who will resign his see on the spot should this weak Pope refuse to be the pastor he is SUPPOSED to be, I will meet him in Rome for our combined audience!]

HA HA HA... PATHETIC FOOL. IT IS NO WONDER THAT YOUR WIFE HAS ABANDONED YOU. NOW WE KNOW WHY. YOU ARE INSANE, COWARDLY AND PATHETIC.

[There is no such bishop willing to defend a sacrament, with his see; not one with any large See or widespread reputation for orthodoxy, anyway.]

OUR BISHOPS HAVE DEFENDED AND ARE DEFENDING THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE. WE DECLARED IT AS SINFUL AND FOR SURE YOUR WIFE AND HER LOVER KNOW THAT THEY ARE COMMITTING SIN. BUT TO DEMAND FROM US THE DUTIES OF THE COURT FOR THE CONDEMNATION OF YOUR WIFE AND HER LOVER IS FOOLISHNESS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT OUR DUTY. WE ARE NOT THE TRIAL COURT. NOT EVEN ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS ABLE TO FORCE HEROD AND HERODIAS TO STOP THEIR ADULTERY. STOP YOUR HALLUCINATIONS.

[I know there are NONE who are good bishops in America. Perhaps the Church in the Pilippines has some decent bishops?]

OUR BISHOPS ARE DECENT. IT IS YOU WHO IS NOT A DECENT HUSBAND FOR FAILING TO KEEP YOUR WIFE AND FOR YOUR STUPID INTERPRETATION OF THE ROLE OF THE CHURCH.

[I do not think you really understand how lousy our priests and bishops are respecting marriage. This is certainly true for the two most recent failures called Popes and is true in America.]

WE ARE NOT LOUSY. YOU ARE. YOU ARE A LOUSY HUSBAND AND YOU ARE A LOUSY CATHOLIC. POOR YOU. BEING THE HEAD OF YOUR FAMILY YOU HAVE SQUANDERED YOUR OWN HOME AND LET YOUR BED BE STAINED BY THE INFIDELITY OF YOUR WIFE. DON'T BLAME US YOUR OWN FAULTS.

[Karl]

FR. ABE, CRS 

November 29, 2011 8:35 AM

Anonymous said... 

 

One can respect strength of commitment and defense of one's beliefs but yours is quite over the top.


Karl

November 29, 2011 9:03 AM  

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[One can respect strength of commitment and defense of one's beliefs but yours is quite over the top.]

WELL, CALLING OUR POPE A REPROBATE AND OUR BISHOPS WITHOUT BALLS ARE BELOW THE TOP FOR YOU, IS THAT RIGHT KARL?

AFTER YOU HAVE INSULTED US WITH YOUR VENOMOUS ATTACKS THEN WE ARE OVER THE TOP IF WE RESPOND IN KIND. HOW NICE OF YOU.

IF YOU THINK AN ATTACK AGAINST THE POPE AND OUR BISHOPS IS JUST A WALK IN THE PARK SORRY FOR YOU. WE ALSO KNOW HOW TO RESPOND IN KIND. 

November 29, 2011 9:11 AM

VATICAN II AND CHANGE - REFUTING THE CLAIMS OF THE SSPX Part 5

 His Holiness, Blessed Pope John XXIII

 

Anonymous said... 

 

PART III: SUMMARY OF CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II
Shift in Emphasis From Truths to Feelings
Apparent Exchange of Certainty for Relativism
New Bible Translations - New translations of Holy Scripture have been approved which "give the Church's enemies much to be thankful for". In addition to "watering down" passages relating to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the new translations may also be criticized for certain footnotes, headers, questionable translation choices, inclusive language, "heterodox tendencies", "linguistic imprecision", etc. In fact, in one well-known, widely-used translation, the word "hell" is completely excluded.
Changed Architecture - In contrast to the splendor of Solomon's temple and to the beautiful, holy and inspiring Catholic churches of times past, many modern churches are plain, functional, barren, and even ugly. Before, they gave honor to God and "instructed and raised the heart and mind to God". Nowadays, churches tend to be egalitarian and often fail to achieve the lifting of one's heart and mind to God.
Shift From Individual Responsibility to Community Responsibility / Near Elimination of Personal Responsibility
Less Emphasis on the Value and Necessity of Suffering
New Canonization Procedures - The numerous changes have led to an unprecedented number of canonizations, and have also led some of the faithful to express concern over various aspects of the new procedures [e.g. elimination of the "devil's advocate", reduction of the waiting period (allowing the process to be conducted while 'emotions are high'), loosening of procedures, reduction in the number of required miracles, concerns over conflicts of interest, concerns over the elimination of unfavorable witnesses deemed "unsuitable", concerns over "political correctness" in the canonization process, concern that the process may not prevent factual errors, concern that the process has become politicized (e.g. using canonization to advance certain causes), concern over lost confidence in the process, concerns regarding the reduced role of the pope, and even some concern regarding the infallible nature of canonizations, etc.
Altered Devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary & the Saints
Changes Which Give the Impression That Traditions & Dogmas May be Open to Compromise
Changes Which May Imply a False "Absolute Equality" of Sexes
Changed Vocabulary / Terminology (Often Ambiguous, Less Precise) - For example, rather than refer to the Church as the Catholic Church or Catholics as Catholics, they may simply be referred to by the generic term "People of God"
Frequent Surrender in the Face of Pressure
Heterodox Teachers / Prelates Frequently Tolerated -"It is a miserable time when a man's Catholic profession is no voucher for his orthodoxy, and when a teacher of religion may be within the Church's pale, yet external to her faith." (Cardinal Newman)
Over-emphasis on Human Dignity
Widespread Lack of Awareness of One's Own Sinfulness
Apparent Forgetfulness of the Reality of Evil
Toleration of Actions Which Tend to Threaten the Indissolubility of Marriage (e.g. unprecedented number of annulments) 

November 16, 2011 7:14 PM

 

Millions of  people filled every streets leading to St. Peter's Square during the Beatification of BLESSED POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT.

 

Fr. Abe, CRS said... 

 

[PART III: SUMMARY OF CHANGES SINCE VATICAN II]

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE AGAIN.

[Shift in Emphasis From Truths to Feelings]

IT WAS LEFEBVRE WHO BECAUSE OF SENILITY ALLOWED HIMSELF TO ACT BASED ON FEELINGS RATHER THAN ON REASON. HE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE WISDOM OF CARDINAL OTTAVIANI, CARD. BACCI, CARD. WYSZYNSKI AND CARD. SANTOS WHO REMAINED FAITHFUL TO THE POPE AFTER SEEING THAT WHAT HAD BEEN CHANGED ARE REALLY CHANGEABLE.

NO IOTA OF CATHOLIC TRUTH HAS BEEN CHANGED. THE FAITH IS ONE AND THE SAME BUT THE SSPX ARE TOO BLIND TO REALIZE THAT.

[Apparent Exchange of Certainty for Relativism]

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THE CHAMPION OF CERTITUDE OF KNOWLEDGE OVER RELATIVISM AND BLESSED POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND CARDINAL RATZINGER ARE THE BEST DEFENDER OF OBJECTIVITY OF TRUTH OVER RELATIVISM. LEFEVBRE IS A USELESS THINKER SIMILAR TO THE INTELLECTUALLY IMPOTENT WILLIAMSON AND FELLAY... JOHN PAUL THE GREAT AND RATZINGER ARE THE ONES WHO ENGAGED THE WORLD IN A LONG DECADES OF DEBATE ON PHILOSOPHICAL LEVEL SHOWING THE SPLENDOR OF TRUTH OVER RELATIVISM. NOT LEFEBVRE, NOT WILLIAMSON, NOT FELLAY AND NOT DE MALLERAIS. NO, NO, NO... DREAM ON.

WHETHER IN MORALS OR ETHICS OR IN THEOLOGY OR SPIRITUALITY OUR POPES ARE THE SHINING CHAMPIONS OF ORTHODOXY NOT YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL FOUNDER, MARCEL LEFEBVRE.

[New Bible Translations - New translations of Holy Scripture have been approved which "give the Church's enemies much to be thankful for". In addition to "watering down" passages relating to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the new translations may also be criticized for certain footnotes, headers, questionable translation choices, inclusive language, "heterodox tendencies", "linguistic imprecision", etc. In fact, in one well-known, widely-used translation, the word "hell" is completely excluded.]

IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT THE TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE INTO MODERN LANGUAGES USING THE LATEST MEANS OF SCHOLARSHIP AND ARCHEOLOGY WAS INITIATED BY POPE PIUS XII IN DIVINO AFFLANTU SPIRITU.

IF YOU WANT TO REJECT NEW BIBLICAL SCHOLARSHIPS AND NEW TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE THEN JUST USE THE ORIGINAL GREEK. EVEN THE VULGATE WAS A MERE TRANSLATION WHICH WAS LATER EDITED AND RE-EDITED CENTURIES BEFORE VATICAN II.

MUCH MORE, YOU ARE ONLY PROVING THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT OF CATHOLIC THEOLOGY AND PROTESTANT THEOLOGY. BECAUSE AS A CATHOLIC APOLOGIST I'VE BEEN USING THOSE MODERN TRANSLATIONS AS WEAPONS TO DEBATE AND DEFEAT AND TO SHAME THE PROTESTANTS. INSTEAD OF BEING A CRYING BABY LIKE YOU AND YOUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEFEBVRE I CHOSE TO FIGHT THE ENEMIES OF THE FAITH IN UNION WITH MY POPE AND BISHOP. THOSE BIBLES ARE CATHOLICS AS LONG AS THEY ARE GIVEN THE IMPRIMATUR AND NIHIL OBSTAT AND THE CENSOR DEPUTATIS SIGNATURES OR IN SHORT, OFFICIAL RECOGNITION.

THE PROBLEM WITH YOU IS THAT YOU DO NOT LOOK AT THE GOOD THINGS. YOU FIND EVIL EVEN ON THINGS THAT ARE GOOD. YOU ARE POISONED BY LEFEBVRE LUCIFERIAN REBELLION AGAINST THE SEE OF PETER. 

 

[Changed Architecture - In contrast to the splendor of Solomon's temple and to the beautiful, holy and inspiring Catholic churches of times past, many modern churches are plain, functional, barren, and even ugly.]

THERE WERE ALSO UGLY AND SIMPLY CHURCHES PRIOR TO VATICAN II. THE CATHEDRALS AND THE GREAT CHAPELS AND THE BASILICAS WERE BEAUTIFUL BUT THE REST WERE SIMPLE ONLY. THE SAME THING NOW. THE GREAT CATHEDRALS AND BASILICAS ARE BEAUTIFUL BUT THE POOR CHURCHES OF POOR PEOPLE ARE SIMPLE. BESIDES, YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE FACT THAT SIMPLICITY IS BEAUTY. YOUR CONCEPT OF BEAUTY IS POMPOUS AND EXTRAVAGANT WHICH IS MATERIALISTIC AND THEREFORE MODERNIST.

THE SIMPLICITY OF OUR CHURCHES IS PATTERNED AFTER THE CHURCH BUILT BY THE HAND OF ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI. SIMPLE BUT BEAUTIFUL. AND IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE, ST. FRANCIS IS A PRE-VATICAN II SAINT.

[Before, they gave honor to God and "instructed and raised the heart and mind to God". Nowadays, churches tend to be egalitarian and often fail to achieve the lifting of one's heart and mind to God.]

IF YOUR HEART AND MIND ARE NOT LIFTED DON'T BLAME THE CHURCHES BLAME YOURSELF. BLAME YOUR MIND AND HEART. IT IS YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEART THAT IS INEFFECTIVE. I GREW UP IN A VERY POOR PLACE AND OUR CHURCH WAS SMALL AND BEREFT OF ELEGANCE AND GRANDEUR BUT WE WERE HAVING STRONG FAITH IN GOD. THE DEFECT IS IN YOUR SOUL NOT IN ARCHITECTURE.

[Shift From Individual Responsibility to Community Responsibility / Near Elimination of Personal Responsibility]

HA HA HA... THIS ONE IS MORE HALLUCINATORY RATHER THAN REAL. ONLY IDIOTS WILL BELIEVE THIS ONE. SIMPLE READING OF THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL DISPEL THIS STUPID CLAIM. THIS GUY MUST BE IGNORANT OF THE BASIC CATHOLIC TEACHING THAT "GOD WILL JUDGE US INDIVIDUALLY AND PERSONALLY" AND IT IS CHRISTIAN DUTY TO LIVE THE FAITH PERSONALLY AND COMMUNALLY. ONLY FOOLS WILL SAY OTHERWISE.

[Less Emphasis on the Value and Necessity of Suffering]

HA HA HA... THE THEOLOGY OF THE CROSS IS WELL DEVELOPED BY OUR POPES AND THEOLOGIANS. BUT THE SSPX THEOLOGIANS HAVE NOT PRODUCED BOOKS AND MANUALS OF THIS KIND BECAUSE THEY ARE BEREFT OF THEOLOGICAL INSIGHTS AND INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY. 

 

[New Canonization Procedures - The numerous changes have led to an unprecedented number of canonizations,]

HA HA HA... IDIOT. THE NUMBER OF CANONIZATIONS IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE MARTYRED DURING THE SPANISH REVOLUTION AND THE COMMUNISTS DOMINATION. IF THERE ARE CHANGES IN THE PROCEDURES, WE GIVE THANKS TO GOD FOR THAT. BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE PROCEDURES WERE EXCESSIVE ALREADY.

IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF CHURCH HISTORY YOU WILL KNOW THAT PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO PROCESS OF CANONIZATION AND BEATIFICATION. STS. FRANCIS AND DOMINIC WERE CANONIZED VOX POPULI. SAME FOR ST. BENEDICT AND OTHERS OF THEIR CONTEMPORARIES. SO IF THE POPE WILL REMOVE ENTIRELY THE PROCESS OF BEATIFICATION AND CANONIZATION IT IS STILL IN ACCORD WITH THE SACRED TRADITION.

WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE PROCESS OF CANONIZATION MUST NOT BE CHANGED?

[and have also led some of the faithful to express concern over various aspects of the new procedures [e.g. elimination of the "devil's advocate",]

HA HA HA... WHY? DO THE SSPX MISS THE PRESENCE OF THE DEVIL? WELL, ACTUALLY YOU REPRESENT THE DEVIL ALREADY BY YOUR ATTACKS AGAINST THE POPE AND THE BISHOPS. YOU ARE SO IN-LOVED WITH THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE WHICH ONLY SHOWS THAT YOU ARE SO FOND OF THE DEVIL.

[reduction of the waiting period (allowing the process to be conducted while 'emotions are high'),]

FIVE YEARS IS NOT A VERY SHORT WAITING PERIOD. IT IS VERY LONG. BESIDES IF YOU WILL WAIT MANY YEARS MORE SOME OF THE VITAL WITNESSES COULD BE DEAD ALREADY WHICH LED TO LOSS OF VALUABLE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CANDIDATE FOR SAINTHOOD.

IF YOUR EMOTIONS ARE HIGH DON'T SPEAK FOR US BECAUSE OUR EMOTIONS ARE NOT THE SAME AS YOURS. FROM THE DEATH OF OUR WACKY OLD FOOL LEADER, LEFEBVRE, UNTIL NOW NO EMETIONS WERE HIGH FOR HIS CANONIZATION. HE WAS ALWAYS REGARDED AS REBELLIOUS FOOL EXCEPT OF FEW HANDFUL LUNATICS WHO FORM HIS POPELESS SOCIETY.

[loosening of procedures,]

IT WAS REVISED BUT NOT LOOSENED. IT IS AS STRICT AS EVER BUT LESS EXPENSIVE.

[reduction in the number of required miracles,]

THE VALUE OF MIRACLES DOES NOT DEPEND ON NUMERICAL CRITERION BUT ON ITS VALIDITY AND SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE.

[concerns over conflicts of interest,]

NO SAINT HAS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN THE CHURCH BECAUSE THEY ARE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE CHURCH. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST THEN MAMA MARY, ST. JOSEPH, ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST, ST. ELIZABETH, STS. JOACHIM AND ANN COULD BE QUESTIONED BECAUSE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE LORD JESUS.

HOW ABOUT THE DOMINICAN, JESUIT, BENEDICTINE SAINTS? THEY BECAME SAINTS DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY OF THEIR CONFRERES WORKING IN THE HOLY SEE OR IN THE PROMINENT POSITIONS IN THE CHURCH. DO YOU APPLY CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THEM? 

 

[concerns over the elimination of unfavorable witnesses deemed "unsuitable",]

HA HA HA... SAYS WHO? THOSE WITNESSES WERE DEEMED UNSUITABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE UNSUITABLE. AS IF YOUR DEVIL'S ADVOCATE DIDN'T DO SUCH A THING IN MORE NUMEROUS INSTANCES PRIOR TO VATICAN II. EXCUSE ME. YOU CAN DECEIVE OTHERS WITH THAT LIE BUT NOT HERE. WE ARE NOT BORN YESTERDAY.

[concerns over "political correctness" in the canonization process,]

EXCUSE ME. WHO AMONG OUR NEWLY CANONIZED SAINT WAS CANONIZED FOR POLITICAL CORRECTNESS? WHO? NAME NAMES. IN FACT PRIOR TO VATICAN II MOST OF THE SAINTS WERE COMING ONLY FROM THE RICH COUNTRIES OR THOSE CLOSER TO THE HOLY SEE: ITALY, SPAIN, FRANCE. SO IF YOU STUPIDLY CLAIM POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IT WILL BACKFIRE ON YOU. BECAUSE THE HOLY SEE BEFORE VATICAN II WAS SO ENAMORED BY POLITICAL POWER TO THE POINT THAT YOUR PRE-VATICAN II POPES CHOSE TO BE PRISONERS OF THE VATICAN DUE TO THE LOSS OF PAPAL ESTATES. POPE PAUL VI AND POPE JOHN PAUL THE GREAT OPPOSED THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE UNITED STATES AND THE POWERS OF EUROPE ON MORAL MATTERS. THE SAME THING FOR POPE BENEDICT XVI WHO SHOWED HIS COURAGE BY SPEAKING AGAINST ISLAM. BUT LEFEBVRE WAS A CERTIFIED COWARD. WILLIAMSON SPOKE IN FAVOR OF HITLER. HA HA HA..

YOUR ANIMAL BISHOP SPOKE IN FAVOR OF HITLER. SO, YOU LOVED THAT. YOU LOVE HIS PRO-HITLER AND ANTI-JEWISH STATEMENTS DON'T YOU? HA HA HA... THAT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT FOR YOU. HA HA HA... SHAME ON YOU SSPX.

[concern that the process may not prevent factual errors,]

ONLY IN HEAVEN WILL FACTUAL ERRORS BE TOTALLY ELIMINATED. WHAT IS CERTAIN THOUGH IS THAT THERE IS NO THEOLOGICAL AND DOCTRINAL AND SPIRITUAL ERROR IN EVERY BEATIFICATION AND CANONIZATION. THE POPE IS INFALLIBLE IN CANONIZATION. BY CANONIZING HE IS OPENING THE GATE OF HEAVEN USING THE POWER OF THE KEYS.

[concern that the process has become politicized (e.g. using canonization to advance certain causes),]

O NO, NO, NO... THIS IS PLAIN STUPID AND LIE. WHO AMONG THE NEWLY CANONIZED SAINT WAS RAISED TO THE HONOR OF THE ALTAR DUE TO POLITICAL CAUSES?

[concern over lost confidence in the process,]

HA HA HA... ONLY AMONG THE SSPX WHO ARE NOT EVEN .001 IN THE CHURCH. THE FACT THAT BEATIFICATIONS AND CANONIZATIONS ARE SO WELL ATTENDED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SHOWED THAT THE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS. ONLY THE FOOLS LIKE YOU HAVE LOST CONFIDENCE IN THEM BECAUSE YOU LOST CONFIDENCE IN THE POPE. ACTUALLY IT IS THE SSPX WHO HAS LOST ALL AUTHORITY AND JURISDICTION.

[concerns regarding the reduced role of the pope, and even some concern regarding the infallible nature of canonizations, etc.]

HA HA HA... ONLY FOOLS WILL CLAIM SUCH A THING. BESIDES THE DECISION OF THE POPE TO ALLOW CARDINALS TO PRESIDE IN BEATIFICATION IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTED BY TRADITION. 

 

[Altered Devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary & the Saints]

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... THE DEVOTIONS TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN WAS NOT ALTERED BUT IMPROVED AND DEEPENED. IT HAS BEEN ENRICHED BY THE POPE.

[Changes Which Give the Impression That Traditions & Dogmas May be Open to Compromise]

THIS IS MORE AN SSPX HALLUCINATIONS. THE DOGMAS CANNOT BE CHANGED. IT WAS SETTLED BY BLESSED POPE JOHN XXIII IN THE COUNCIL AND EVEN PRIOR. THE DOGMAS ARE PRESERVED IN THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

[Changes Which May Imply a False "Absolute Equality" of Sexes]

IDIOT. THIS IS ALREADY SETTLED BY POPE PAUL VI WHO REFUSED TO ORDAIN WOMEN AND FOLLOWED BY JOHN PAUL THE GREAT. THIS IS CLEAR IN MULIERIS DIGNITATEM AND INTER INSIGNIORES AND IN CCC.

[Changed Vocabulary / Terminology (Often Ambiguous, Less Precise) - For example, rather than refer to the Church as the Catholic Church or Catholics as Catholics, they may simply be referred to by the generic term "People of God"]

IDIOT. EVERY MASS AND ROSARIES WHAT IS BEING DECLARED IS: "I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH"... THAT TERM "PEOPLE OF GOD" IS A THEOLOGICAL TERM THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND BETTER THE BIBLICAL CONCEPT OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD BUT IT DIDN'T REPLACE THE OFFICIAL NAME: THE HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE CHURCH HAS BEEN REPLACED?

[Frequent Surrender in the Face of Pressure]

WE DO NOT SURRENDER AMIDST PRESSURE. IN FACT, WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THIS WORLD. THE POPES FOUGHT WITH COURAGE AGAINST THE POWERS OF THIS WORLD. IT IS LEFEBVRE AND THE SSPX AND SUCCUMB TO THE SEDUCTIONS OF SATAN TO REBEL AGAINST THE POPE. 

 

[Heterodox Teachers / Prelates Frequently Tolerated -"It is a miserable time when a man's Catholic profession is no voucher for his orthodoxy, and when a teacher of religion may be within the Church's pale, yet external to her faith." (Cardinal Newman)]

WHEN CONFRONTED BY THIS EVIL, CARDINAL NEWMAN OFFERED SOLUTION: "UNITY WITH THE VICAR OF CHRIST". EVERY TIME THE CHURCH IS CONFRONTED BY CRISES OF SUCH KIND THE FIRST SOLUTION IS UNITY WITH THE VICAR OF CHRIST. INSTEAD, THE SSPX CHOSE THE WAY OF SATAN: FIGHT AND OPPOSE THE VICAR OF CHRIST. SHAME ON YOU SSPX.

[Over-emphasis on Human Dignity]

ITS NOT OVER EMPHASIS BUT THE SSPX LACKS UNDERSTANDING OF HUMAN DIGNITY. BECAUSE IT OPERATES WITH THE MINDSET AND TIME-FRAME SUITED WHEN THE WORLD WAS STILL IMPLEMENTING SLAVERY AND DEATH PENALTY. THAT IS WHY THE SSPX IS CRUEL, HEARTLESS AND ANGRY AT THE CONCEPT OF THE GOD AND CHURCH WHO ARE MERCIFUL AND CHARITABLE.

[Widespread Lack of Awareness of One's Own Sinfulness]

WE ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE SINFUL. BUT THE SSPX ARE SO ARROGANT THAT THEY THINK ALL SINFULLNESS ARE PRESENT AMONG US BUT ABSENT IN THEIRS. YOU HYPOCRITES, REMOVED FIRST THE PLANK IN YOUR EYES.

[Apparent Forgetfulness of the Reality of Evil]

WE ARE REMINDED OF IT DAILY WHEN WE RECITE THE OUR FATHER IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE. IT IS VERY VERY PLAIN - THE REALITY OF EVIL. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU RECITE IT IN LATIN - A LANGUAGE WHEREIN ALMOST ALL OF YOU ARE IGNORANT OF.

[Toleration of Actions Which Tend to Threaten the Indissolubility of Marriage (e.g. unprecedented number of annulments)]

IDIOT. WE ARE THE ONES FIGHTING AGAINST DIVORCE NOT THE SSPX WHO ARE DOING NOTHING BUT SCRATCHING THEIR BALLS INSIDE THEIR GOLDEN ROMAN CHASUBLES AND GREAT PHYLACTERIES. 

November 28, 2011 9:42 PM